JonnyBekkestad
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Buying A Headset

Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:32 pm

Hey all, will buy a headset and wanted to hear from the users out there which one you think it the best. I am interested in finding out which one is the best. Not interested in the cost.

The ones i am looking at right now are
Bose X
David Clark X11
David Clark 13X(L)

Any advice appreciated!
Thanks!
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RE: Buying A Headset

Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:22 pm

I've had a David Clark for the last 15 years and wouldn't buy any other. Not sure what the differences between the 2 you mentioned are, nor do I know which one of the two would be better. But I would seriously consider a David Clark.
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RE: Buying A Headset

Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:28 pm

Might I also recommend the Sennheiser Brand? They make some great headphones. My last two headphones have been from them.
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RE: Buying A Headset

Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:46 pm

David Clark hands down. I have been using mine(10-13.4) for 10 hard years from student pilot to Falcon Captain and I haven't had 1 problem. I wish I could use them in the 727 but no one else uses them in these. They always work with all the intercomms whereas we always have problems with guys that have Bose and Sennheisers.

We have the Bose X in our King Air and I find them very uncomfortable.

What will you be using them in?

[Edited 2010-01-16 15:50:20 by tb727]
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RE: Buying A Headset

Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:50 pm

If your willing to spend the $$$ go with dave clark, thier a proven brand, and ive never heard anything bad about them

Sennheiser headphones are good but when it comes to thier headsets im not a big fan. They use basicly the same earpads as thier standard range of audio products and in a noisy cabin im not so sure how comfortable they would be, you will need to be looking at the top of thier range to find a good headset

Of course your selection needs to be not only decided by price and feature but by the type of flying your undertaking, ive got an altronics set, cheap, comfortable and quiet, but if your the kinds of person who is rough with equipment they wont last. Ive had them for 8 years and they still look brand new, but i always store the set in a padded bag.
 
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RE: Buying A Headset

Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:09 am



Quoting JonnyBekkestad (Thread starter):
I am interested in finding out which one is the best.

No experience, here, but I would compare the DCs to Sennheiser's HMEC 250 or HMEC 460 and pick the most comfortable one.
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RE: Buying A Headset

Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:25 am

Couple of questions.

Where are you using the headsets? Cherokee? Baron? Bonanza? King Air? Airbus? (You get my drift).

Next, what headsets have you used thus far, and what did you like and not like about them? Different headsets have different benefits.

The Bose are often considered the gold standard, but not everyone loves them, and they surely do cost a great deal. In addition, they are a little fragile, a real consideration of they are to be put to hard use (especially if you are a renter and move the headsets from plane to plane).

David Clark headsets are built to last forever, and they do. Even after the warranty expires, the manufacturer is well-known for repairing and refurbishing them for free, or for very nominal cost. I have two pairs of DCs which are nearly twenty years old, and they soldier on quite nicely.

Some previous Bose devotees now rave about the Lightspeed Zulus, and they also include a Bluetooth interface for cell phone use, great when you're calling for your IFR clearance at a rural airport with no remote communications outlet for calling ATC. Zulus are also a little fragile, and Lightspeed is also known for over-the-top customer service.

Lastly, many are raving about the new generation of very light, in-ear headsets, including the standard-bearing Clarity Aloft, and the exceptional Quiet Technologies Halo. I bought a Halo for my wife, and she loves it; so light, it is easy to forget you are wearing them, and the noise cancellation (actually, damping) is excellent.

I use a David Clark H10-40, modified with the ANR conversion from Headsets, Inc., an excellent way to add ANR to a paid-for and durable set like the DC.
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RE: Buying A Headset

Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:07 am

Thanks everyone for all the answers.
I feel i need to answer some questions back.

Primarily i'll be flying Cessna's and Duchess. Will start my flight school training i May and i would like to buy a headset that will last me a long long time. I want it to be comfortable, i'll like one which will cancel the noise from the engines. It would be nice it is had interface to cell phone, but not necessarily. As i said, cost is not a limit, i want one which will last me.

Thanks again!

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RE: Buying A Headset

Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:17 pm

If cost is not an issue then go with the Bose X. I'm a lifelong DC user and wouldn't spend the $1,000.00 on the headset if I had the cash laying around. That said, I borrowed a pair a few back on an SR22 ride and they are amazingly comfortable. Bose in general produces great sound cancelling products and I think they've done a great job in transferring this quality into their aviation products. You'll get your $1,000.00 worth out of them.

After a good flight you'll, feel the David Clark on your head and around your ears, the Bose however were light and soft on the head/ears. David Clark padding is good and comfortable but very universal across all the surfaces that line your ear, Bose is adaptive and much softer. They're also a much smaller headset. The guy who I had borrowed the headset from had just purchased them within the year so there wasn't much ware but I would imagine after a few hundred hours you'll be replacing the cushions @ $20 a pop vs the $10 for the David Clark.

See if any of your FBO or flight training centers sell either product and try them on. Not sure how easy it'll be to find the Bose headsets floating around but I know most good training centers will have a good taste of David Clark gear.

Good luck and happy flying.
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RE: Buying A Headset

Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:04 pm



Quoting JonnyBekkestad (Reply 7):
Primarily i'll be flying Cessna's and Duchess. Will start my flight school training i May and i would like to buy a headset that will last me a long long time. I want it to be comfortable, i'll like one which will cancel the noise from the engines. It would be nice it is had interface to cell phone, but not necessarily. As i said, cost is not a limit, i want one which will last me.

Personally if that is the case, I would get the DC's and use the $700 I saved by not buying the Bose and get a few more hours in the Duchess, ME time is valuable!
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RE: Buying A Headset

Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:25 pm

The best thing you can do to decide is to see if you can borrow a pair of each for an hour and try them on. After that, you will have a very good idea of what you think is best. All 3 of the models you mentioned are popular, common, and have had good reviews. I think it will come down to what is most comfortable on you.
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RE: Buying A Headset

Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:37 pm

Add on question:

I fly gliders and would like a headset with a single lightweight earpiece, boom mike and an inline push-to-talk switch. Anyone got any suggestions? Obviously noise cancelling isn't important, once I'm off tow there's no noise to be worried about!
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RE: Buying A Headset

Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:12 pm

I just recently bought my new headset, a Clarity Aloft. In my opinion it is much better then the Bose or the Lightspeed high end headsets and is a whole lot more comfortable. My only complaint is the lack of blue tooth, though you can still plug in a phone/ipod anyhow. It is not ANR but is just as quiet. I found that I can feel the pressure of an ANR headset inside my ears, and it starts to irritate me after an hour or two on the Bose and instantly with a Lightspeed Zulu. The DC's are a great value and if $$ is an issue I would defiantly choose the DC Passive headsets over the others.

Even though the Clarity Aloft headset may seem "skimpish" it is just as quiet as the high end ANR headsets with maybe the one exception of the Telex 50D.
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RE: Buying A Headset

Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:44 pm



Quoting JonnyBekkestad (Reply 7):
Primarily i'll be flying Cessna's and Duchess.



Quoting JonnyBekkestad (Reply 7):
Will start my flight school training



Quoting JonnyBekkestad (Reply 7):
headset that will last me a long long time



Quoting JonnyBekkestad (Reply 7):
I want it to be comfortable



Quoting JonnyBekkestad (Reply 7):
i'll like one which will cancel the noise from the engines



Quoting JonnyBekkestad (Reply 7):
i want one which will last me.

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RE: Buying A Headset

Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:57 am

I don't fly much, used to. I bought some cheap headsets, thinking wow these look comfortable. I now own 3 DCs, a 10-30, a 10-20, and a 13.4. The 10-20 is my favorite, it feels the best after a long day of flying. I've never used or tried on a bose. I have many friends who use bose and many who use DCs. The best thing you can do is talk to friends or flight insturctors who you may be flying with. See which ones have the headsets your interested in and see if they'll let you try them on. I won't buy a headset unless I try one on for a fit. I've seen some headsets and thought they look comfortable, but after a hour flight I couldn't get them off fast enough. If at all possible try them on before buying, you could save yourself a lot of money and aggravation.
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RE: Buying A Headset

Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:01 am

David Clark. There is no other headset to buy, period.
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RE: Buying A Headset

Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:28 am

I personally fly with Bose X--the gold standard of GA headsets (and often seen in professionally-flown aircraft as well). I could wear them for days (I have a big head, and I find most headsets to be uncomfortable after a few hours) because of the low clamping force. Just be sure to bring extra batteries for the ANR because they are a really terrible passive headset. Plus they use Bose X's on the Space Station.

Bose had a great financing offer to CFI's awhile back (it may still be valid) where you could just pay 10 payments of $100 per month, interest free, for your headset. I did that. Made me a believer!

I started out with the David Clark H10-13.4's and they served me very well. They were promptly stolen.  Sad But no one builds them like DC.

I then tried the Lightspeed 20XL2. Those are pretty nice...the ANR is pretty decent. I had some problems (static in the cord) and they replaced it free of charge--significantly after the warranty. Excellent customer service...and I've heard the same type stories from other people. You might look into the Zulu model as a Bose X alternative--Bluetooth built-in and many pilots even like them better than the X.
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RE: Buying A Headset

Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:37 am

Has anyone tried Telex headsets?
See them used mostly by Airline pilots but they seem to have a general av selection.
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RE: Buying A Headset

Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:17 am



Quoting RG828 (Reply 17):
Has anyone tried Telex headsets?

I had a pair of thier first generation ANR headsets. Heavy, but very well built.
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RE: Buying A Headset

Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:19 am

I have had a David Clark H10-60 for the last 5 years. I will never consider another brand of headsets. I've never had the slightest problem with my headset. Hope this helps.
 
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RE: Buying A Headset

Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:38 pm

Quoting SCCutler (Reply 6):

The Bose are often considered the gold standard, but not everyone loves them, and they surely do cost a great deal.

They are extremely overrated, IMO. I tried them on for a flight and I found them to feel very flimsy and the noise canceling mediocre. They shouldn't be worth even $500.

The ones I've been meaning to get though are these:

http://www.jhaudio.com/aviation/

Still waiting to get a job so I can use and afford them though  

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 13):
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Amen. Later on, once you get paid to fly, sure, splurge and get a fancy dandy headset. But as a student just buy a decent David Clark headset and that's more than enough for a student pilot. Sure there are more comfortable ones out there but none are bulletproof like the DCs.

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RE: Buying A Headset

Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:43 pm

Thanks guys for all the information i have now decided to get the David Clark X11 ENC headset. Should be getting it in a few days...
 
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RE: Buying A Headset

Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:35 pm

Nice, I think, no wait a minute, I know you will be happy with your David Clarks!
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