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Dad Uses Lamp Wires As Defibrillator

Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:46 pm

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/sto...baby-overdose-trial-day2-hope.html

A Calgary father charged in his daughter's overdose death tried to revive the baby using wires from a lamp as a makeshift defibrillator, a court heard Tuesday.

Jonathan Hope told paramedics who responded to his southwest Calgary home in April 2006 that he performed CPR on his daughter for five hours, witnesses testified.

A paramedic said he noticed a dismantled lamp at the scene, and Hope indicated he tried to restart the baby's heart with two bare wires.

Hope said he did not call 911 because his phone wasn't working, the judge-only trial in the Court of Queen's Bench heard.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/sto...trial-day2-hope.html#ixzz0h7o7ieDz

It is tragic that someone died


However the fact that he used wires from the lamp(another article here said he also used vasoline) as a defib makes me snicker...I have joked about that before but common..

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Dad Uses Lamp Wires As Defibrillator

Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:09 pm

That's just plain stupid. Even if this guy were sane, there's no way a lamp packs enough punch to restart a heart. Even the weakest defibrillators use around 200J of energy.
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Dad Uses Lamp Wires As Defibrillator

Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:19 pm

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 1):
That's just plain stupid. Even if this guy were sane, there's no way a lamp packs enough punch to restart a heart. Even the weakest defibrillators use around 200J of energy.

No, our Zoll M Series Critical Care will actually go down to 1J if needed, but I will have to say the lamp thing is pretty funny. That is what TV does to people, they think things like that work?
 
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RE: Dad Uses Lamp Wires As Defibrillator

Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:43 pm

Quoting Mudboy (Reply 2):
That is what TV does to people, they think things like that work?


MacGyver would have you think so! After, he would built an ambulance with it  Wow!
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RE: Dad Uses Lamp Wires As Defibrillator

Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:12 am

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 1):
Even the weakest defibrillators use around 200J of energy.

What we need here is 1.21 Gigawatts!


Seriously, though, the guy stole, then hid from authorities, a controlled substance, and then didn't have the smarts to keep it away from his child (or possibly not have child-proof locks.) Hopefully the Canadian court system has the smarts to throw the book at him.
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RE: Dad Uses Lamp Wires As Defibrillator

Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:35 am

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 1):
That's just plain stupid. Even if this guy were sane, there's no way a lamp packs enough punch to restart a heart. Even the weakest defibrillators use around 200J of energy.

A child's heart for instance would require much less. And one thing is that the activity of the heart is nowadays monitored by the device itself so as not to actually make the matters worse by an operator error.
 
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RE: Dad Uses Lamp Wires As Defibrillator

Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:01 am

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 1):
Even the weakest defibrillators use around 200J of energy.


A defibrillator delivers energy, its usage is irrelevant.

200J is (or used to be) the setting for first shock on an adult. The protocol called for a second 200J shock followed by 360J for subsequent shocks. This was true in this country for monophasic defibs. The protocol may have changed for biphasic defibs, I'm not sure.

The recommended shock for paediatrics and infants is 2J/kg, I don't have kids so I don't know what a 16 month old would weigh, but we are nowhere near requiring 200J.
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