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U.S. Prez Candidate For 2012 - Met Him Today.

Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:44 pm

Yes, i met Mr Carter today at work. Here's his website....
http://www.williecarterforpresident.com/

PS: i am not endorsing/supporting/voting for him.

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Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:36 pm

No thank you. Yet another person that will not be able to think "separation of Church and State" and will let the Bible make the decisions. I wish him the best of luck, but based on the information I have read on his website, he will not be getting my vote.

  
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Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:16 am

Anyone care to tell me what "God fearing" actually means and why it does. Well aside from meaning anything I do unto you and you don't like I will tell it is God's will. And anything I do that you like, I will claim the credit for? I mean apart from that.
 
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Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:26 am

He has as much a chance of making it into the presidency, as I have of being a world famous Basketball player.

P.S. anyone can announce their candidacy for a role in the gov't, even the presidency. A 19 yr old kid from my University who is a Political Science major, just announced his candidacy for a senate seat in his district.
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Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:40 am

When Homer Simpson declared that, "We elected the wrong Carter" I believe he was actually refereing to Billy.
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Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:04 am

Quoting futurepilot16 (Reply 3):
He has as much a chance of making it into the presidency, as I have of being a world famous Basketball player.

That's what they said about Obama.....
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Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:10 am

Quoting alberchico (Reply 5):
That's what they said about Obama.....

Not according to the ass kicking that he gave to McCain.

On the other hand, his guy doesn't really have much other than preaching the bible, which doesn't go far in the eyes of the voters nowadays. Not only do you have people who practice other religions, but you have atheists as well and I think this guy would be the last person that both sides want to see in office.
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Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:30 am

Quoting futurepilot16 (Reply 6):
Not according to the ass kicking that he gave to McCain.

1. Pretty sure Alberchico was referring to the fact that up until the last few months before the Democratic primary, it seemed a virtual certainty the Democratic nominee would be Hillary Clinton

2. I wouldn't call a 52% to 47% victory and "ass kicking"...how quickly you forget the "other" half of the country.

Quoting futurepilot16 (Reply 6):
On the other hand, his guy doesn't really have much other than preaching the bible, which doesn't go far in the eyes of the voters nowadays. Not only do you have people who practice other religions, but you have atheists as well and I think this guy would be the last person that both sides want to see in office.

Sometimes there's other value to being a no-shot candidate for POTUS. Sometimes it's vanity, monetary gain, social status, and other times it's about advancing causes, kindling grassroots efforts for "change," etc. I honestly don't think this guy deludes himself that he has a shot to become President.
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Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:30 am

Quoting futurepilot16 (Reply 6):
which doesn't go far in the eyes of the voters nowadays. Not only do you have people who practice other religions, but you have atheists as well and I think this guy would be the last person that both sides want to see in office

I dunno dude. The the far right conservatives tend to be the most prudish bible-thumping bigots. I bet it would take little convincing for fanatical Christians to vote for him. And correct me if im wrong, but right-wing religious fanaticism has been on the rise in the US.
 
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Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:48 am

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 8):
I dunno dude. The the far right conservatives tend to be the most prudish bible-thumping bigots. I bet it would take little convincing for fanatical Christians to vote for him. And correct me if im wrong, but right-wing religious fanaticism has been on the rise in the US.

You're right, but here's the problem. A lot of these far right conservatives are not necessarily religious. For me, there are two types of conservatives in this country. The religious conservatives, who care a lot about family values and religion etc. These are the guys who you see protesting abortion clinics and whatnot.

Then, there's the right wing extremists, who really only care about their gun rights, and making sure that whoever is in office is not violating any of their other constitutional rights. These are the guys you see yelling the loudest at these health care rallies and walking around with AR-15s.

So, the extreme right wing might not take to kindly to this guy who is really pushing forward a lot of religion and family value messages. Religion doesn't connect very well with guns (as we see all over the world).

Overall, he will still only get a small amount of votes because he is not associated with Democrats or GOP. If he's independent, there's really no point in even running (which I hate).
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Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:06 am

Quoting futurepilot16 (Reply 9):
making sure that whoever is in office is not violating any of their other constitutional rights.

And that's a negative? That is an extremist? You've fingered everyone from the NRA to the ACLU is being in someway or another a radical right-wing extremist organization. That kind of attitude is why its so hard to have a civil discussion about politics. Trying to fit everyone who doesn't agree with you into small, easy to ridicule categories is simply not conducive to meaningful discussion. It is no different than asserting all democrats are either communists or environmental nuts. That might get some cheering going at a tea party protest, but doesn't help to solve the issues or communicate real ideas.
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Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:26 pm

The guy hasn't a dog's chance.

I'll tell you now, the 2012 Republican candidate (and I'm not saying that this guy is a Republican - after all, he was talking about compassion for the elderly and homeless) will be Sarah Palin. She is Fox's person, she is the Neocon's person and they will push aside any other candidates, whatever it takes. They need a front person, just like GWB - someone who won't ask too many questions and isn't that intellectually curious. Sarah's the woman for the job ...
 
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Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:01 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 11):
I'll tell you now, the 2012 Republican candidate (and I'm not saying that this guy is a Republican - after all, he was talking about compassion for the elderly and homeless) will be Sarah Palin. She is Fox's person, she is the Neocon's person and they will push aside any other candidates, whatever it takes. They need a front person, just like GWB - someone who won't ask too many questions and isn't that intellectually curious. Sarah's the woman for the job ...

If that woman should somehow become President, the new American Idiocracy will be complete.  

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Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:43 pm

Quoting TeamAmerica (Reply 12):

I don't think having Palin as president would be so bad. After all, if people think Obama is bad, imagine his predecessor. I would actually enjoy making fun of her as president, just as I did when Bush was in office and just as the righties are doing to Obama right now. I've started to realize that politics is a big joke in this country. When one person is in power, the other side criticizes and makes fun of them. So I might as well take my turn if and when Palin does make it into office. What a glorious four years that will be.  
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Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:03 pm

Quoting futurepilot16 (Reply 13):
I've started to realize that politics is a big joke in this country.

I understand your cynicism, but the joke's not so funny when we actually have to live it. I see that you are quite young...but old enough to realize that the decisions these jokers make will effect your entire life.   

We need to resist the idiocracy...by any means necessary.  
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Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:09 pm

Quoting futurepilot16 (Reply 6):
Not according to the ass kicking that he gave to McCain.

Actually, Obama did not do any ass-kicking. As a Republican, I have to say that McCain kicked his own ass completely by himself.
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Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:14 pm

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 15):
Actually, Obama did not do any ass-kicking. As a Republican, I have to say that McCain kicked his own ass completely by himself.

Given the circumstances (e.g. utter economic meltdown, campaign staff infighting) McCain did remarkably well. A lesser candidate would've been buried under a landslide.  
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Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:44 pm

Quoting futurepilot16 (Reply 6):
his guy doesn't really have much other than preaching the bible, which doesn't go far in the eyes of the voters nowadays. Not only do you have people who practice other religions, but you have atheists as well and I think this guy would be the last person that both sides want to see in office.
Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 8):
I dunno dude. The the far right conservatives tend to be the most prudish bible-thumping bigots. I bet it would take little convincing for fanatical Christians to vote for him. And correct me if im wrong, but right-wing religious fanaticism has been on the rise in the US.

He has a very appealing message, and right now is saying the right things the nation despertly wants to hear;

If I am elected President, I will take the God fearing approach, addressing the needs of all the people of our nation, the homeless, jobless, the elderly, the business community, moving forward to reduce our national debt, and dependency on foreign resources, fair international trade, maintaining a strong military, strong foreign diplomacy, and stopping the cycle of violence across our nation.

http://www.williecarterforpresident.com/

I don't know if I'll vote for him, yet, or not. That election is more than 2.5 years from now, so anything could happen, and anyone could begin a campaign. I do know I will not support the current POTUS.

Quoting futurepilot16 (Reply 9):
You're right, but here's the problem. A lot of these far right conservatives are not necessarily religious. For me, there are two types of conservatives in this country. The religious conservatives, who care a lot about family values and religion etc. These are the guys who you see protesting abortion clinics and whatnot.

Then, there's the right wing extremists, who really only care about their gun rights, and making sure that whoever is in office is not violating any of their other constitutional rights. These are the guys you see yelling the loudest at these health care rallies and walking around with AR-15s.

So, the extreme right wing might not take to kindly to this guy who is really pushing forward a lot of religion and family value messages. Religion doesn't connect very well with guns (as we see all over the world).

What is wrong with having family values? What is wrong with having guns? What is wrong with having God in your life? I see nothing wrong with any of them.

Quoting TeamAmerica (Reply 12):
If that woman should somehow become President, the new American Idiocracy will be complete

No, it is complete now under Obama, who will do anything and use anyone to jam his far left wing agenda down the thrats of all Americans.
 
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Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:24 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 17):
What is wrong with having family values? What is wrong with having guns? What is wrong with having God in your life? I see nothing wrong with any of them

Look. I never said there was ANYTHING wrong with any of those things. I'm gonna be a gun owner when i'm twenty one. I grew up in a god fearing family and can be religious when i'm ready, and there's nothing wrong with family values. The problem is that a lot of America wants to see a lot more done rather than hearing somebody talk about religion. Furthermore, I just want to re-iterate that a lot of people in this country would like to have this country remain a country that has a separation of church and state. This man has a completely different agenda that fuses both together. The left wing in this country is very large, and growing. They won't take kindly to his message.
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Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:26 pm

Ron Paul 2012. Although I've never met him.
 
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Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:02 pm

Quoting futurepilot16 (Reply 9):
So, the extreme right wing might not take to kindly to this guy who is really pushing forward a lot of religion and family value messages. Religion doesn't connect very well with guns (as we see all over the world).

Actually, religion attracts guns quite well. In an age where political systems increasingly try and separate religion from politics, guns are a great way for the ultra-conservatives to retain some influence. I'm not saying the results are very good, nor am I saying that all gun owners, or even a large minority of gun owners, are ultra-conservative - only that some people can look at guns as a way to make sure that people listen to them.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 17):
What is wrong with having family values? What is wrong with having guns? What is wrong with having God in your life? I see nothing wrong with any of them.

Until you try and push those values on me through legal means. I don't really give a crap if you think my moral standards aren't, but don't try and force me to live by yours because you think they're better.

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Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:51 am

i would've voted for christopher walken in 2008 if i had the chance.

http://www.walken2008.com/
 
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Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:37 am

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Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:31 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 22):
If you pray in one hand and poop in the other, guess which hand gets filled first?

Your point?
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:57 pm

Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 23):
Your point?

That "Bringing America to God" will not solve the national debt. It will not feed the hungry and house the homeless. It won't cure the sick. It won't build roads and rail and runways and sea ports and power plants.

In addition to being completely contrary to the basic ideals of this country (which wasn't "Under God" Until McCarthy in the 60's), his platform is pointless.

Fortunately, he can't possibly win.
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:44 pm

Quoting futurepilot16 (Reply 18):
The problem is that a lot of America wants to see a lot more done rather than hearing somebody talk about religion. Furthermore, I just want to re-iterate that a lot of people in this country would like to have this country remain a country that has a separation of church and state. This man has a completely different agenda that fuses both together. The left wing in this country is very large, and growing. They won't take kindly to his message.

The country does not have a government that is controlled by religion. I agree with basicly what you are saying, except the growing left wing part, but that is a different discussion. We have had several POTUS that were very religious men, Presidents Reagan, Carter, Bush (43), Truman, Franklin Roosevelt, Washington, Jackson, and Teddy Roosevelt come to mind, but none of them preached their religion from the White House (or NYC in the case of President Washington).

I do not see a conflict with a preacher running for POTUS, there have been many in the past, like Rev. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.

Quoting Mir (Reply 20):
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 17):
What is wrong with having family values? What is wrong with having guns? What is wrong with having God in your life? I see nothing wrong with any of them.


Until you try and push those values on me through legal means. I don't really give a crap if you think my moral standards aren't, but don't try and force me to live by yours because you think they're better.

-Mir

Then you may be shocked to find out the US Government does this all the time. The recently passed health care bill, now signed into law by President Obama will place many different life style values, changes, and morality on your life than you realize. It is a good example of how the government wants you to act in society.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 22):
If you pray in one hand and poop in the other, guess which hand gets filled first?
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 24):
Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 23):
Your point?

That "Bringing America to God" will not solve the national debt. It will not feed the hungry and house the homeless. It won't cure the sick. It won't build roads and rail and runways and sea ports and power plants.

In addition to being completely contrary to the basic ideals of this country (which wasn't "Under God" Until McCarthy in the 60's), his platform is pointless.

Fortunately, he can't possibly win.

Senator McCarthy was in the early 1950s, and it was not him who placed the words UNDER GOD in the Pledge of Allegence.

You are right, God will not solve the national debt, feed the hungry, cure the sick, or house the homeless. But the US Government does not do those things, either. The government does build some roads and runways, but power plants, sea ports, and railroads are builtr by companies or individuals, and the government caused the national debt.

There are many good things we can be thankful for today, including government provided services. But the first half of the 20th Century had some good things about it to, including a growing economy (the government didn't do that), lower crime (many people never locked their doors), and people who actually talked to their neighbors.

As far as saying he cannot possibly win, I point out they also said that early in Clinton's, Bush 43's, Carter's, Reagan's and even Obama's campagins. Remember Hillery being the odds on Democrat favorite before the Iowa caucuses? Hell, did you ever see Truman's picture holding up the newspaper saying "Duey Wins"?

Sometimes they do get that prediction right, in the cases of Dukakus, Larough, McGoven, McCain, etc.

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