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VP Biden On LiveTV: This Is A Big Fing Deal

Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:01 pm

Quoting HuffingtonPost.com:
Vice President Joe Biden, perhaps overcome with excitement during his speech congratulating President Obama on the passage of health care reform, dropped an F-bomb on live television when he turned to Obama and said, "This is a big f@*!&^$ deal."

The microphone just barely catches it, but listen closely and you'll hear it. This is surely a high point in Biden's long history of verbal gaffes.

UPDATE 12:54 PM The White House must not be too upset about Biden's comment -- Press Secretary Robert Gibbs just tweeted:

"And yes Mr. Vice President, you're right... "
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Yet another priceless Biden moment.
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Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:03 pm

Que all the lefties coming in and saying "Bush did it toooo!!!!"   
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Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:06 pm

Who cares. This has to be the biggest non-story of the day.
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Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:10 pm

What's the problem here? The man is correct.
 
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Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:11 pm

Quoting KPDX (Reply 1):
Que all the lefties coming in and saying "Bush did it toooo!!!!"  

Not so much. I couldn't care less if Bush said it, and I don't care if Biden said it. So he used the "f-word". Whoop dee freaking do. Most of us use that word on a daily basis, so, IMHO, anyone claiming that their offended by this is doing so out of political gain.
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Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:14 pm

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 2):
Who cares. This has to be the biggest non-story of the day.

Never said it was a big story.

Its typical Biden. Love him for it.

Quoting KPDX (Reply 1):
Que all the lefties coming in and saying "Bush did it toooo!!!!"   

Lefties should embrace this. Regardless of where you stand, and even most lefties disagree with some portion of the bill, it is agreeably the largest social legislation since the 60's.
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Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:22 pm

At least he wasn't destroying our relationship with Israel anymore. Way to go Joe. Keep up the good work.
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RE: VP Biden On LiveTV: This Is A Big Fing Deal

Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:25 pm

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 6):
At least he wasn't destroying our relationship with Israel anymore.

Has anybody outdone Netanyahu on that front yet? What have I missed?
 
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Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:28 pm

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 6):
At least he wasn't destroying our relationship with Israel anymore. Way to go Joe. Keep up the good work.

Reasonable deviation.

Let's see where Obama plays his hands today with Netanyahu during their closed-door meetings before we make a final call on Biden's comments.

Admittedly, they pantsed the administration when they rolled into town two weeks ago.
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Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:44 pm

The look (sh*t eating grin) on POTUS face was priceless when he realized the mic was on when the comment was made.   
 
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Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:48 pm

Hell, I've been saying this since Sunday!
LOL!!!

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RE: VP Biden On LiveTV: This Is A Big Fing Deal

Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:50 pm

Well it's not quite as crazy as calling a PM's mother dead when she, uh, isn't...but probably not the smartest thing to do when you are the VP. In the public light, you need to watch your actions AND your words.
 
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Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:08 pm

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 6):
At least he wasn't destroying our relationship with Israel anymore. Way to go Joe. Keep up the good work.

It's Israel destroing their relationship with the US, even the Israeli's think so.

http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=171590
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Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:11 pm

Quoting sw733 (Reply 11):
Well it's not quite as crazy as calling a PM's mother dead when she, uh, isn't...but probably not the smartest thing to do when you are the VP. In the public light, you need to watch your actions AND your words.

In his defense:

When he ran for President and when he became VP, he made it clear that he had no intentions of slowing his roll. The best was Obama's reaction to Biden when he swore in administration staff on the first few days of their tenure and he made the Justice Roberts comment. The STFU look on Obama's face was priceless.

With reports now of Al Franken swearing it out with advisors and Rahm next to the oval, I'm surprised the POTUS hasn't been busted swearing on the record yet.
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Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:12 pm

Oh, wait, forgot about the Kanye 'jackass' comment.
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Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:11 pm

it's hilarious! and i love me some Joe Biden. i just wanna hug the man.


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RE: VP Biden On LiveTV: This Is A Big Fing Deal

Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:38 am

Quoting KPDX (Reply 1):
Que all the lefties coming in and saying "Bush did it toooo!!!!"   

The obvious can be a b****.

Quoting UA777222 (Reply 14):
Oh, wait, forgot about the Kanye 'jackass' comment.

Another the truth can be a b**** sometimes moment.
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RE: VP Biden On LiveTV: This Is A Big Fing Deal

Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:30 am

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 6):
At least he wasn't destroying our relationship with Israel anymore.

Way to stay on point.

Quoting DXing (Reply 16):
And I loved the PM's response:

"A draft of his speech, which was subject to revision, said: "The Jewish people were building Jerusalem 3,000 years ago, and the Jewish people are building Jerusalem today. Jerusalem is not a settlement. It is our capital."

Shouldn't that be in the Hillary AIPAC thread? Anyhow, I don't know how you can love this claim, since it involves disputed territory and you certainly wouldn't stand for people from a neighboring town declaring their property rights supersede yours. Not to mention it harms American interests every step of the way...
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:47 am

Who cares? That is about as big of a "f***king deal" as this:
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:50 am

Quoting STT757 (Reply 12):
It's Israel destroing their relationship with the US, even the Israeli's think so.
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 18):
Way to stay on point.

Well the topic is Biden and his penchant for saying and doing idiotic stuff isn't it?   

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 18):
Shouldn't that be in the Hillary AIPAC thread? Anyhow, I don't know how you can love this claim, since it involves disputed territory and you certainly wouldn't stand for people from a neighboring town declaring their property rights supersede yours. Not to mention it harms American interests every step of the way...

Do you know anything about this? Jerusalem was shared by the Arabs and Israel until the Arabs had a plan to attack Israel and were planning on taking it all for themselves. In probably the best military manuever in history Israel invaded early in the morning and destroyed their air force which in effect crippled them. Israel didn't start this and is not declaring anything. They fought a war started by the Arabs and got the job done. Which if Obama doesn't get his head out of his rear end we aree going to see again.
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RE: VP Biden On LiveTV: This Is A Big Fing Deal

Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:57 am

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 20):
Well the topic is Biden and his penchant for saying and doing idiotic stuff isn't it?

Then it has nothing to do with this particular non-incident.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 20):
Jerusalem was shared by the Arabs and Israel until the Arabs had a plan to attack Israel and were planning on taking it all for themselves.

Actually, the israeli land-grab preceded that.
 
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:07 am

Quoting OA412 (Reply 4):
Not so much. I couldn't care less if Bush said it, and I don't care if Biden said it. So he used the "f-word". Whoop dee freaking do. Most of us use that word on a daily basis, so, IMHO, anyone claiming that their offended by this is doing so out of political gain.

I don't care if Reagan had said it, it doesn't matter who said it. Personally, I think its a poor image that he is giving himself, very un-professional, but.. It is damn funny!  
And to be honest, If I went a day without saying that word, that means I haven't spoken at all that day.  
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:27 am

Quoting austinairport (Reply 22):
Personally, I think its a poor image that he is giving himself, very un-professional, but.. It is damn funny!

I agree. For better or worse, political figures are held to a higher standard, and they are well aware of this. They should be more careful with what they say and do, but clearly some of them are unable to do so.
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:55 am

Quoting KPDX (Reply 1):
Que all the lefties coming in and saying "Bush did it toooo!!!!"

This lefty is saying:
Quoting UA777222 (Reply 5):
Lefties should embrace this. Regardless of where you stand, and even most lefties disagree with some portion of the bill, it is agreeably the largest social legislation since the 60's.


It was a bit of regulation.
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:03 am

I like mouthy veeps.

Cheney's "go F yourself" comment on the Senate floor was priceless.

So was Ol' Joe's moment.

Though I must say it doesn't go very far in changing Biden's image of a bumbling old fogey. In fact, his position in this administration seems to fit more with Vice President Garner's assertion that the VP job was "not worth a bucket of warm piss."
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:15 am

F^ck F*ckitty F*ck F*ck F*ck.....are you offended? Oh, I'm so sorry.


Who cares? Jeeeeze! It was a big F'ing deal that he did. Him and Pelosi, for whatever you think about what happened, was a big F'ing deal for them. So if you don't like Biden saying that, then go F yourself!!

LOL. (Mods, Okay, I know this would normally get the boot, but this is about him saying the F word).

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Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:27 am

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 26):
Who cares?

I do. It's embarassing and amusing and I think anyone with an ounce of maturity is OK with letting it be that while understanding that it's just embarrassing and amusing.
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:32 am

Quoting Klaus (Reply 7):
Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 6):
At least he wasn't destroying our relationship with Israel anymore.

Has anybody outdone Netanyahu on that front yet? What have I missed?

Well he carelessly broke the glass on his gitt, no wait, that was that clutz Netanyahu.

The really sad thing is that such a minor change in such a god awful system really IS A BIG F*CKING DEAL.

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Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:35 am

Quoting Baroque (Reply 28):
That is not a health system, THIS IS A HEALTH SYSTEM. (Points to German, Finnish, Aus, Canadian or any other civilized country bar just the one).

(Only valid when said with a broad aussie accent...    )
 
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RE: VP Biden On LiveTV: This Is A Big Fing Deal

Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:02 am

Isn't it a big hypocrisy to put f*ing or whatever here? Everybody knows the word is fuck. So why not write it? It's not as we'll fall into depravity because we actually dare to type a word that most of us use quite often.

(cue the obvious: "I have never and will never say this word in my whole life!" reaction)
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:29 pm

Quoting mdsh00 (Reply 19):
Who cares? That is about as big of a "f***king deal" as this:

Is that actually Bush? Sure doesn't look like him...and it DEFINITELY is not him as President (too young looking). So, good try...
 
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:34 pm

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 19):
Do you know anything about this? Jerusalem was shared by the Arabs and Israel until the Arabs had a plan to attack Israel and were planning on taking it all for themselves.

Your account is full of holes - namely the fact that Arabs were living on the land prior to the Jerusalem city boundaries being drawn. We spent two years on Israeli history in Hebrew school, our cantor was from Be'er Sheva and fought in the '67 war, later having mixed feelings about his actions due to the plight of Palestinians in the WB - where were you?   Difference is, I can see the forest for the trees.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 19):
Which if Obama doesn't get his head out of his rear end we aree going to see again.

Implying what - he should ask Bibi to wipe out the West Bank? You know nothing of the situation - we're only going to see a war again because Palestinians elected Hamas out of desperation and somewhere around 15 years ago the Israeli right assassinated their PM for getting too close to a peace agreement.
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:03 pm

so what. I swear just about every day.... I would on national tv too if given the opportunity
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:30 pm

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 19):
Do you know anything about this? Jerusalem was shared by the Arabs and Israel until the Arabs had a plan to attack Israel and were planning on taking it all for themselves. In probably the best military manuever in history Israel invaded early in the morning and destroyed their air force which in effect crippled them. Israel didn't start this and is not declaring anything. They fought a war started by the Arabs and got the job done. Which if Obama doesn't get his head out of his rear end we aree going to see again.

The United States has won territories across the globe in several wars, and we've given almost all of it back except Guam, Puerto Rico and the Naval base at Guantanamo Bay Cuba.

We gave the Phillipines back, the Panama Canal, Cuba, Western Germany, West Berlin, Haiti, The Dominican Republic, parts of Austria and the City of Vienna, Japan, South Korea, Iraq.

It was the right thing for the US to do to give those countries back their land and sovereignty, yet because it's Israel they should keep whatever they get?.. No way, the US and the rest of the world recognizes the 1967 boundaries. There's no other solution, Israel has no right to keep that land.
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:06 pm

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 17):
Anyhow, I don't know how you can love this claim, since it involves disputed territory and you certainly wouldn't stand for people from a neighboring town declaring their property rights supersede yours.

There are many communities in the United States that got to be the size that they are by annexing (sometimes against the other communities wishes) the communities around them. Columbus Ohio and Nashville Tennessee are two that come to mind, as is Berea Ohio. So it does happen in this country.

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 17):
Not to mention it harms American interests every step of the way...

A soverign country doing what it sees fit within it's legal borders that does not have the ability to go beyond those borders is harming American interest? I assume you are refering to the comments by the SecState that our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan are at increased risk due to these settlements? I highly doubt settlements in east Jerusalem are high on the list of "why we fight" to the Taliban.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 19):
Which if Obama doesn't get his head out of his rear end we aree going to see again.

Agreed. Interesting that the Palestinians weren't even asking for the end of these settlements until the Obama administration demanded it as a pre-condition to further talks.

Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 24):
Cheney's "go F yourself" comment on the Senate floor was priceless.

Except it wasn't said on the Senate floor nor near any open microphone. It had to be reported by a third party as hearsay.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 26):
I do. It's embarassing and amusing and I think anyone with an ounce of maturity is OK w
ith letting it be that while understanding that it's just embarrassing and amusing.

Agreed. Biden is speaking bafoon. By all reports he is a likeable guy who sorely lacks the STFU gene.
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:38 pm

Quoting DXing (Reply 34):
I assume you are refering to the comments by the SecState that our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan are at increased risk due to these settlements?

And General Petraeus, and the CIA, and members of the CFR, among others. Are you saying you have intelligence knowledge that refutes their information?

Quoting DXing (Reply 34):
So it does happen in this country.

Hardly! Annexation is done for tax and gerrymandering purposes, not subjugation of other ethnicities with walls put up to protect crazy families who want to stake a claim on behalf of Bible passages of disputed meaning.

Quoting DXing (Reply 34):
Interesting that the Palestinians weren't even asking for the end of these settlements until the Obama administration demanded it as a pre-condition to further talks.

That's irrelevant to the discussion - the Administration and the intelligence sources advising them are fully aware that a grand gesture from the Israelis is necessary in order for the PA to have any kind of hope of navigating around the influence of extremists in their population who act out of desperation.
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RE: VP Biden On LiveTV: This Is A Big Fing Deal

Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:51 pm

Quoting sw733 (Reply 30):
Is that actually Bush?

You seriously don't recognize that as George W Bush?

Quoting sw733 (Reply 30):
and it DEFINITELY is not him as President (too young looking)

Yes, I believe it was prior to the Presidency when he was governor of Texas.
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:09 pm

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 37):
And General Petraeus, and the CIA, and members of the CFR, among others. Are you saying you have intelligence knowledge that refutes their information?

I stand by what I said. Settlements in east Jerusalem are doubtly very high on the "why we fight" list for the Taliban. In Iraq our troops are in garrison preparing to be redeployed out of country so it makes even less sense.

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 37):
Hardly! Annexation is done for tax and gerrymandering purposes

It's still annexation no matter what the purpose and of those communities that have been annexed in this country not all went willingly. The point is the same.

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 37):
That's irrelevant to the discussion -

It's completely revelant. The Palestinian Authority wasn't even demanding that the settlements be stopped in order to have talks. They (the PA) weren't advocating talks at all for that matter. It's been 17 years since the Oslo accords were signed. Even they did not contain a ban on settlements in Jerusalem. The PA, namely Hamas, still refuses to even recognize Israel. How about we start with that simple fact and move from there? Instead, the administration and you seem to think it is up to Israel to stop building in its capital to appease a group that doesn't even recognize them at this point. Amazing.

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 37):
the Administration and the intelligence sources advising them are fully aware that a grand gesture from the Israelis is necessary in order for the PA to have any kind of hope of navigating around the influence of extremists in their population who act out of desperation.

It is up to the PA to control those factions, not the Israelis.
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:39 pm

It was here on a.net I saw the video of Paul Gogarty from Ireland in a Teatch Dala meeting saying FU to another deputy. They said it was "unparliamentary language" but it was later determined that the F-word was not on the list of unparliamentary words! But since we don't have any "unparliamentary language" here in the US that I know of, what's the big deal? It may look bad, but that word has become less offensive over time.
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:08 pm

Quoting DXing (Reply 39):
It is up to the PA to control those factions, not the Israelis.

That's pie in the sky - they can't control those factions so long as residents are incensed by what's happening on the land in which they live. Israel has the upper hand in every metric category - they have the power to control what the man on the street is experiencing, thinking, and living day to day - a simple improvement in living conditions would do far more for the population than Hamas or anyone else ever has.

Quoting DXing (Reply 39):
The point is the same.

Not in a different universe of circumstance.

Quoting DXing (Reply 39):
I stand by what I said.

Then go all the way and admit in a sentence you can't factually refute what people in the know have provided in their analyses.

Quoting DXing (Reply 39):
Instead, the administration and you seem to think it is up to Israel to stop building in its capital to appease a group that doesn't even recognize them at this point.

Their building is a blatant attempt at preventing demographic numbers from tipping against the majority, which is already an unstoppable process. And building over the line at that. Check any map.
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RE: VP Biden On LiveTV: This Is A Big Fing Deal

Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:10 pm

you know...biden does have a knack of repeatedly saying the wrong thing at the wrong time....

...but we all knew that a LONG time ago  
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:48 pm

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 41):
That's pie in the sky

That's reality. If the PA can't control them it is pie in the sky to think that anything Israel does is going to have an effect.

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 41):
Not in a different universe of circumstance.

It's exactly the same thing.

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 41):
Then go all the way and admit in a sentence you can't factually refute what people in the know have provided in their analyses.

Show me the "facts" that they are basing their assumption on. Virtually everything I have read is that it is their "opinion".

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 41):
Their building is a blatant attempt at preventing demographic numbers from tipping against the majority, which is already an unstoppable process. And building over the line at that. Check any map.

Again, the PA has not even recognized Israel. How about we start with that basic premise before we worry about who is building where, on their own land!
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RE: VP Biden On LiveTV: This Is A Big Fing Deal

Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:39 pm

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 35):
Quoting DXing (Reply 34):
Interesting that the Palestinians weren't even asking for the end of these settlements until the Obama administration demanded it as a pre-condition to further talks.

That's irrelevant to the discussion

It might well be irrelevant, but has DXing ever found out what was agreed in the Oslo accords but even more to the point what does any of this have to do with the health bill? Or was Biden referring to something else?
   
 
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RE: VP Biden On LiveTV: This Is A Big Fing Deal

Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:28 pm

Quoting Baroque (Reply 42):
It might well be irrelevant, but has DXing ever found out what was agreed in the Oslo accords but even more to the point what does any of this have to do with the health bill?

Nothing was agreed to as far as Jerusalem was concerned, it was left open to negotiation. Doesn't have much to do with the health bill but then I didn't start this. How about a nice vacation in Perth?   
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