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What's The Oldest Movie You've Seen?

Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:51 pm

Last night I finally saw Shutter Island. Which, is not an old movie; but rather a contemporary one.

However, this morning I added it to my List O' Movies I've Seen, and decided on a lark to re-sort the list by Year. The oldest movie that I've seen, in its entirety, seems to be Grand Hotel, from 1932.

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Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:17 pm

Well, I've seen some of the early Marx Bros., which date from the late 1920s, as well as some silent Laurel & Hardy and Harold Lloyd, which would be early to mid 1920s. (Don't know if these count as movies in their own right, but they're too early to be TV episodes!)

Some of the early Chaplin work, such as "The Kid" , dates back to 1921, but I can't recall ever seeing that in full, so for me, it'll have to be Animal Crackers.

Animal Crackers (1930) also features one of the oldest movie jokes I know. "This morning I shot an elephant in my pyjamas. How he got there I'll never know!"
 
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Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:00 pm

Possibly Boys Town from 1938... I am not sure if I've seen anything older. My Mum used to watch lots of old movies on TV that we'd watch with her, so I am not sure to be honest.

After that, Gone With The Wind, The Wizard of Oz etc from 1939 and other movies after that.
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Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:12 pm

When I was a kid,I remember seeing some Buster Keaton(great stunts) films and movies with Keystone Kops in them.But what the titles were beats the heck out of me.Like most folks,the Marx Bros and Laurel and Hardy films like,"Babes In Toyland"('34),for example,are best early films seen.

I guess pre 1950's movie that is most watched is "Wizard Of Oz."
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Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:22 pm

Wings -- (1927) (I've got it on VHS)

Wings (1927) is a silent movie about World War I fighter pilots, directed by William A. Wellman and released by Paramount Pictures. It was the first film to win the Academy Award for Best Picture and the only silent film ever to win Best Picture. Wings stars Clara Bow, Charles "Buddy" Rogers and Richard Arlen. Gary Cooper appears in a scene which helped launch his career in Hollywood and also marked the beginning of his affair with Clara Bow.
 
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Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:26 pm

Dive Bomber with Errol Flynn, made in 1941. It was some time ago so I can't really remembver much about it.
The Third Man, with Orson Welles, made in 1949. It was recommended by a friend, but to be honest, I couldn't get into it.

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Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:58 pm

I'd LOVE to find Strategic Air Command on DVD.. but I don't think it's ever been issued in DVD format.
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Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:05 pm

Metropolis (1927).

I've seen it several times.

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Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:07 pm

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 2):
The Wizard of Oz etc from 1939 and other movies after that.

Yes I think thats my earliest also . Great movie

 
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Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:13 pm

I've seen The Great Train Robbery from 1903 in a History of Film class back in the fall of 1971 while I was in college.

I don't watch many silent films these days when their are on TCM, but I do watch a lot of movies from the 30's and later.

My father and I agree that 20 year old Lauren Bacall in her first couple movies was the subtle sexiest woman ever on the silver screen.

I've been surprised to see some 'legends' in their early film roles. Some of Marylin Monroe's movies are very interesting when she is playing a straight dramatic role and not a sex kitten.
 
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Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:34 pm

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 9):
My father and I agree that 20 year old Lauren Bacall in her first couple movies was the subtle sexiest woman ever on the silver screen.

Great actress,too.

Saw her and Bogie the other night on TCM in,"To Have And Have Not."('44)
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Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:57 pm

The first ever movie. "Traffic Crossing Leeds Bridge" recorded in the late 1800s!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7saH58usq4

According to IMDB, this is the first ever recorded moving image.
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Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:03 pm

The old movie that had struck me the most as a kid was 'La Strada' by Fellini with Giulietta Masina and Anthony Quinn as the main actors. The film came out in 1954.

I had seen much older films such as Nosferatu by FW Murnau (1922), Dr Mabuse by Fritz Lang and also Metropolis (1927) also by Fritz Lang, two silent movies from German expressionism that also struck me very much.

I also got to see the Blue Angel by Josef von Sternberg with Marlene Deitrich. I was fascinated by these old German films.
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RE: What's The Oldest Movie You've Seen?

Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:17 pm

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 9):
I do watch a lot of movies from the 30's and later.

Me too. I like a lot of old movies.

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 9):
My father and I agree that 20 year old Lauren Bacall in her first couple movies was the subtle sexiest woman ever on the silver screen.

I would agree, she was sooooo hot! I also think Grace Kelly was real looker too. Those two are much more attractive than the fake boobed bimbos we have on the screen today.

The oldest movie I own is Battleship Potemkin (1925). I may have seen something older than that, but I don't remember. I usually like older movies compared to the new ones. I am not a big fan of computer generated special effects.
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:38 am

Quoting diamond (Reply 7):
Metropolis (1927).

I would love to see that movie.

My list of "old" movies includes "Wizard of Oz", "Gone With The Wind","Phantom of the Opera","M" and "The Wind." I like Peter Lorre and saw a movie recently starring him as a doctor who grafted a pair of hands from a murderer onto a concert pianist. Something about silent black-and-white movies make them so much more intense. No blood all over the place, no guts spilling out everywhere.
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:50 am

Casablanca, 1942. Bought it on DVD to see what all the fuss was about and was disappointed. Luckily, it had a copy of Carrotblanca on it so it wasn't a total loss.
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:25 am

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 12):
The old movie that had struck me the most as a kid was 'La Strada' by Fellini with Giulietta Masina and Anthony Quinn as the main actors. The film came out in 1954.

Sigh.....

A movie younger than me isn't 'old'.

Quoting falstaff (Reply 13):
The oldest movie I own is Battleship Potemkin (1925).

I finally got to see this a couple years ago after reading about it - including Red Storm Rising - great movie. Eisenstein was a genius. He knew a lot more about visual imagery than many of the lauded directors today.

Another favorite of mine - is anything by Kurosawa - especially Seven Samurai, The Hidden Fortress, Yojimbo and Sanjuro
 
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:12 am

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 16):
A movie younger than me isn't 'old'.

I agree.

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 15):
Casablanca, 1942. Bought it on DVD to see what all the fuss was about and was disappointed

That is one of my favorites. What didn't you like about it?

I think old movies are better than new movies for a lot of reasons, but mostly because they don't have all the computer generated crap. They did effects in other ways, but they actually had to build something or do something, not just set it up with a computer.
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:26 am

I think the oldest was 'Shoulder Arms', one of Charlie Chaplin's first feature length films - maybe the first.
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:20 am

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 11):
The first ever movie. "Traffic Crossing Leeds Bridge" recorded in the late 1800s!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7saH58usq4

According to IMDB, this is the first ever recorded moving image.

What about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVsVM3mg_dE&NR=1
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:33 am

Quoting kaitak (Reply 1):
Harold Lloyd

"Haunted Spooks" (1920); a Harold Lloyd movie, is the oldest film I've seen. My favorite Harold Lloyd film is "Speedy" (1928), there is good film footage of New York City from that time. Most of the film footage was done by Harold Lloyd's crew, though some "stock" film clips are used.

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Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:56 am

Casablanca is truly a great great film. Definitely in my favourites link.

This part was true genius: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KL76edqCKc

Trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28Ud8O3KBSM
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:12 am

A few years ago, I made a point to catch every single silent movie that came on TCM. I saw tons of movies, dating from the late 1910s to the 1920s. I saw films starring actors like Lilian Gish, John Gilbert, Greta Garbo, Gloria Swanson...and of course I've seen plenty of Chaplin films, my favourite being The Gold Rush (1925) (the Chaplin movies were DVDs borrowed from a friend though).
And I did catch The Metropolis a year ago in history class, was pretty powerful. The symbolism was indeed striking.
I can't really date the oldest movie, since I can't recall them all, but it's probably one of the earlier Chaplin movies.
 
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:53 am

Quoting directorguy (Reply 22):
I can't really date the oldest movie

Louis and Auguste Lumière - the inventors of Cinematographe.
I studied this while in elementary school. We were shown all the Lumière films.

This is the most famous of their films : Arrival of a train in the station at La Ciotat - 1895

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dgLEDdFddk&feature=related

This is supposed to be the first of their films also dates 1895. Exiting the Lumière factory in Lyon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI63PUXnVMw&feature=fvw

L'arroseur arrosé (1896) Louis Lumière - man splashed by his water hose - another ultra-famous Lumière film

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlbiNuT7EDI&feature=related

Snowball fight (1896) Lumière

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBTMRBVIXvo&feature=related

Place des Cordeliers in Lyon - Lumière

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV20uJ-2MQ8&feature=related

You can find many more Lumière Brothers films on Youtube. They make great documentaries of the 1890s.

Another most famous French film-maker of the time was Georges Meliès.

Le Manoir du Diable (1896) Meliès

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qQLIrL9OMw&feature=related

Le Voyage dans la Lune (Melies 1902) Trip to the Moon. He was the inventor of Fantastic films.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZV-t3KzTpw

Le Diable Noir (the black devil) Melies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbJ01n5uoxc&feature=related

Le Monstre (1903) the monster

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md9WzJV88qM&feature=related

Le locataire diabolique (1906) the devilish tenant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-n6EN4DyuE&feature=related

Some of these are copies of the originals.
They all make interesting documents about the late 1890s and early 1900s.
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:12 pm

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 21):
This part was true genius

I love that part.
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:24 pm

Quoting falstaff (Reply 13):
The oldest movie I own is Battleship Potemkin (1925). I may have seen something older than that, but I don't remember. I usually like older movies compared to the new ones. I am not a big fan of computer generated special effects.
Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 16):
I finally got to see this a couple years ago after reading about it - including Red Storm Rising - great movie. Eisenstein was a genius. He knew a lot more about visual imagery than many of the lauded directors today.

I've seen Potemkin, along with Eisenstein's 1938 epic Alexander Nevsky. I wrote a paper contrasting the two in graduate school. It's interesting that while Potemkin is his most acclaimed work (at least in terms of film criticism), he abandoned (or at least mostly ignored) many of his own theoretical concepts when making Nevsky, which was his most commercially successful film. The two films are worlds apart. But in his defense, he did make the latter film to get back into Stalin's good graces.

Have many other people seen Birth of a Nation? It was one of the first feature length films and was produced in 1915. It helped bring the KKK back into the public conscious in the late teens and early '20s. It's considered one of the most important films of all time, alongside other "mostly-evil but great" films like Leni Riefenstahl's Triumph of the Will (an fantastically well-produced/directed propaganda film about Nazi Germany).
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:47 pm

Quoting planespotting (Reply 25):
Leni Riefenstahl's Triumph of the Will (an fantastically well-produced/directed propaganda film about Nazi Germany).

That is a good movie. A very good look at imediate prewar Germany. I have it on VHS and the quality of it isn't that great. The subtitles are difficult to read in many parts of the video because they blend in with the background. Is the DVD version of better quality?

Quoting planespotting (Reply 25):
Have many other people seen Birth of a Nation?

I have not seen it, but I would like to.
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:13 pm

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 23):

Oh I meant I can't date the oldest movie that I've seen.
I've studied the early development of film and I've come across stills from the Lumiere and Melies (he came up with some pretty zanny and creative techniques) movies, but never actually seen them. I got into cinema at the age of 7 or 8, well before we had YouTube.
 
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:47 pm

Quoting falstaff (Reply 17):
Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 15):
Casablanca, 1942. Bought it on DVD to see what all the fuss was about and was disappointed

That is one of my favorites. What didn't you like about it?

To be honest, its not that I found it to be terrible (it wasn't, great acting), but after watching it I was left asking myself, "that's it?" I guess I don't get romance.
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Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:17 am

The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1920). I've also seen a number of F.W. Murnau and Fritz Lang films from the 20s. However, my favorites are pre-code American movies, especially from the early 1930s. My father got me hooked on old movies as a kid, and fortunately my partner enjoys them just as much as I do!
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Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:21 am

King Kong (1929?)

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The classics are all worth a look, as they help give an appreciation of the newer flicks out there.
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Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:06 am

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 28):
but after watching it I was left asking myself, "that's it?" I guess I don't get romance.

One thing a lot of people who don't 'get' Casablanca often say is that don't understand which of the men Ingrid Bergman really loved.

That is on purpose. The director constantly pushed Bergman to both men, yet never told her which was the true love of the character's life. What we see is the confusion of someone faced with possibly having to choose between the greatest love of her life and her loving husband. She put Rick in her past and now he is the key to her, and her husband's survival.

She cannot decide which way is true to her heart, but even that has to be mitigated by the possibility of death and the importance of getting her husband out of Nazi hands.

Plus the writing and dialogue are so great.

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Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:15 pm

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 31):
One thing a lot of people who don't 'get' Casablanca often say is that don't understand which of the men Ingrid Bergman really loved.

That is on purpose.

That I understood. Yet, the movie just didn't have any affect on me.
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