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Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Wed May 12, 2010 9:59 pm

http://members.boardhost.com/zendevil/msg/1273531790.html

http://www.ksbw.com/news/23512008/detail.html

Totally mind blowing. I cam glad this teacher is being called out on this. What was this teacher thinking? Obviously an Obama fan but why the disdain toward teh flag or the term God Bless America? It's scary this person teaches kids. Really is. I hope FOX follows up on this. I saw MSNBC's piece today and you can tell they are going to bury it.
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Thu May 13, 2010 1:08 am

A teacher (an agent of the state) attempting to punish belief in God is what is offensive. While the state cannot advocate one religion (or any religion) over another or none, it must not be allowed to make belief in a religion something that is viewed as bad. To do so is to violate the plain meaning of the First Amendment.

I'm so sick and tired of atheist arguing that anything that offends them is bad, but anything that they do that offends someone else needs to be tolerated.
 
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Thu May 13, 2010 1:51 am

Quoting gatorfan (Reply 4):
A teacher (an agent of the state) attempting to punish belief in God is what is offensive. While the state cannot advocate one religion (or any religion) over another or none, it must not be allowed to make belief in a religion something that is viewed as bad. To do so is to violate the plain meaning of the First Amendment.

I'm so sick and tired of atheist arguing that anything that offends them is bad, but anything that they do that offends someone else needs to be tolerated.

Was going to respond but this says it perfectly!
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Thu May 13, 2010 2:39 am

An Atheist Obama supporter? Thats what the news made the teacher sound like.
 
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Thu May 13, 2010 3:06 am

Quoting Aeroflot001 (Reply 7):
An Atheist Obama supporter? Thats what the news made the teacher sound like.

She told a young girl that writing "God Bless America" is offensive and then went to a student drawing a likeness of Obama and she said positive things. What is she?
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Thu May 13, 2010 1:07 pm

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 2):
Quoting gatorfan (Reply 4):
A teacher (an agent of the state) attempting to punish belief in God is what is offensive. While the state cannot advocate one religion (or any religion) over another or none, it must not be allowed to make belief in a religion something that is viewed as bad. To do so is to violate the plain meaning of the First Amendment.

I'm so sick and tired of atheist arguing that anything that offends them is bad, but anything that they do that offends someone else needs to be tolerated.

Was going to respond but this says it perfectly!

Yep, I second that. Paging Benjamin Franklin here!

Man, every time I hear crap like this, I think of those guys (Franklin, Washington, Adams, etc). If they were alive today, I think we'd be in the midst of a massive civil war based on what has become of our country... Everything that we fought against to win our freedom is what this country is turning into IMO.
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Thu May 13, 2010 1:20 pm

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 4):
She told a young girl that writing "God Bless America" is offensive and then went to a student drawing a likeness of Obama and she said positive things. What is she?

Immature? No really, immature...it has nothing to do with her views, it has to do with unfairly pushing her views on others. To me, that is a sign of immaturity. I believe that most mature adults understand that people will disagree with them, and just accept it. One side states their thoughts, the other states theirs, they agree to disagree and move on. People who cannot do that, who keep saying that someone else's opinion is wrong just because it is different, are immature in my book. That is the case with this teacher. Certainly not someone I would want teaching my children. If she has different views than me, great! If she pushes those views on my child and tells them everything else is wrong, not cool.

It's like watching CNN or MSNBC or FOX. They get two people who argue against each other until they are ready to take a gun to the other. My gosh, just accept that some people will have different views and move on. That's life...that's what is so great about America - you can have different views.
 
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Thu May 13, 2010 2:15 pm

How on earth do things like this justify 2 threads, let alone get on the news?
 
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Thu May 13, 2010 3:53 pm

Quoting RJ111 (Reply 7):
How on earth do things like this justify 2 threads, let alone get on the news?

Every news which mentions President Obama deserves a thread here (according to certain A.net members).
 
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Thu May 13, 2010 4:33 pm

According to this

http://www.thecalifornian.com/articl...hoolroom-flag-flap-may-be-baseless

The classroom incident appeared to be resolved, Brusa said, in April in a meeting between the Hathaways, a Gavilan View assistant principal and Saunders. The school heard no more of it, he said, until after May 5 — Cinco de Mayo.

On that day in Morgan Hill, five Live Oak High School students were asked to go home after they wore clothes bearing images of the flag. In a statement, the school district said that while awareness of other cultures is appropriate on Cinco de Mayo, it did not support the high school's action.

The episode drew widespread media attention and — according to Brusa — resurfaced in the Gavilan View classroom incident.

"As soon as the [Morgan Hill] story hit," he said, "the parent thought this was kind of similar and decided to Twitter Fox News, and that's where this all started.


And what the problem may have been...

"If something wrong was done to the student, we'll get to the bottom of that," Brusa said. "But it may have been they were working on the Yellow Ribbon project, which sends care packages to military in war zones. One of the requirements is that there is no writing on the flags. If that's the case, then there's been a huge misunderstanding here and a lot of needless turmoil and grief."

Reasons for prohibiting writing on a flag — on any topic — involve awareness of other cultures and of U.S. soldiers, Brusa said.

"If you have a flag with 'God bless America' over it in the middle of Iraq, or you're sending it to soldiers who aren't Christians, it could be a problem," he said.



So who knows? It looks like the teacher should have been more explicit about why there was a problem with the flag as drawn, but for it to go nuclear like this does seem rather OTT.
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Thu May 13, 2010 6:52 pm

Not surprising. Anyone who's ever taken an elementary-school art class knows that those "teachers" are a bunch of kooks.
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Thu May 13, 2010 8:04 pm

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 10):

So are college professors...my son, while currently age 21 comes to my house on weekends for a Sunday meal and immersed me in an argument about politics and revealed to me that "socialism" is what is going to save this country...I was flawed that this crap is what I am paying for while currently unemployed, I still pay his college education. I have sinced open his eyes to the BS being served on my sons plate. Next time I have to go to Germany on business I am going to drag his smart ass little butt to Dochau...apparently my photos were not enough to convince him. I get him to talk to WWll vets but they are becoming harder to find. On 9/12, 2001, I put all partisan politics aside and decided that I don't care if your right, left, centrist or whatever dog tag you want to hang around your neck...your either for America or against it...thats it, black and white...no in between...Trouble is 2/3rds of the population I'm afraid is undecided...g

Quoting RJ111 (Reply 7):

They don't justify the thread space, but political agendas here in the US help create the need...most are just vacuous hot air...Thats why we have...dare I say..."global warming?"
 
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Thu May 13, 2010 8:14 pm

Quoting oly720man (Reply 9):
So who knows? It looks like the teacher should have been more explicit about why there was a problem with the flag as drawn, but for it to go nuclear like this does seem rather OTT.

It seemed watching the mother and her daughter talk in Fox and MSNBC that the teacher would not say why she thought it was offensive. Obviously she doesn't want religion in the classroom and she should say this. The mother wants an apology and I think she and her daugher deserves one. If the teacher didn't want God in the classroom she could have went about it in another way.

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 11):
So are college professors...my son, while currently age 21 comes to my house on weekends for a Sunday meal and immersed me in an argument about politics and revealed to me that "socialism" is what is going to save this country...I was flawed that this crap is what I am paying for while currently unemployed, I still pay his college education. I have sinced open his eyes to the BS being served on my sons plate. Next time I have to go to Germany on business I am going to drag his smart ass little butt to Dochau...apparently my photos were not enough to convince him. I get him to talk to WWll vets but they are becoming harder to find. On 9/12, 2001, I put all partisan politics aside and decided that I don't care if your right, left, centrist or whatever dog tag you want to hang around your neck...your either for America or against it...thats it, black and white...no in between...Trouble is 2/3rds of the population I'm afraid is undecided...g

Unfortunately it seems most college professors are trying to brainwash the young adults in this country into believing the far left agenda. It is a real shame. If we can't have religion in the classroom how come we are letting the professors force their beliefs on our kids?
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Fri May 14, 2010 2:14 am

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 12):
Unfortunately it seems most college professors are trying to brainwash the young adults in this country into believing the far left agenda.

How do you know? Have you met them all?  
 
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Fri May 14, 2010 3:50 am

Quoting afterburner (Reply 13):

Thats a rediculous comeback...in the US exists an underlying aganda that is targeting students nationwide here in the US. The Obama administration is focusing his effeorts on seeing this country fail as quickly as he can as he is aware that he will be a one term president. School children recite Obama chants rather than recite the Pledge of Allegience. Its all hidious BS. The generation of draft card burners during the Vietnam war are the boobs that are now at the helm in this country and they are trying to run us into the rocks...Why?...makes no sense...but thats what they are doing. I can tell you one thing...amricans have had enough...this is not what we worked hard for...Americans will take back what is theirs and reverse this, and I'm afraid push is coming to shove, soon...I'm ready!...g
 
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Fri May 14, 2010 3:57 am

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 14):
as he is aware that he will be a one term president

Hey, we have a mind reader here ...

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 14):
School children recite Obama chants

What is that? I've never heard of it.
 
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Fri May 14, 2010 6:01 am

Quoting afterburner (Reply 15):
What is that? I've never heard of it.

He has many but I will give you his best one.

"I inherited a mess"
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Fri May 14, 2010 8:14 am

Quoting afterburner (Reply 15):

Hey, we have a mind reader here ...

Not really:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 16):

"I inherited a mess"

Name one President who came in after another royally effed things up and won a second term.

Quoting afterburner (Reply 13):
How do you know? Have you met them all?

Don't be thick. It's no secret that most college professors lean rather heavily to the left. This is not to say that I don't agree with everything they say or do, but it's the truth.
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Fri May 14, 2010 9:49 am

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 17):
Don't be thick. It's no secret that most college professors lean rather heavily to the left. This is not to say that I don't agree with everything they say or do, but it's the truth.

Even if it's true, do you believe that they are actively trying to brainwash their students to follow their agenda? And why aren't many right-winger professors? Don't right-wingers believe in higher education?
 
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Fri May 14, 2010 4:48 pm

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 17):
Name one President who came in after another royally effed things up and won a second term.

Ronald Reagan
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Fri May 14, 2010 5:07 pm

Quoting afterburner (Reply 18):

Clearly you don't have enough facts to try and balance this attempt at conversation and I would not expect that you or any one else outside the US would as the "administration" now filters the news...I rest my case...g...and PS...you don't have to be clairvoyant here...simply observe the obvious and remind yourself that history repeats itself as it is doing now...g
 
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Fri May 14, 2010 5:12 pm

This story is pretty stupid. However, the worst part is not the story, but the fact that this is news. Surely there must be something better to waste our time on.
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Fri May 14, 2010 5:17 pm

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 11):
Next time I have to go to Germany on business I am going to drag his smart ass little butt to Dochau...

I'm not sure I get the connection socialism=Dachau?????

socialism is result left wing thinking
Dachau is a result of right wing thinking
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Fri May 14, 2010 5:35 pm

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 14):
.in the US exists an underlying aganda that is targeting students nationwide here in the US. The Obama administration is focusing his effeorts on seeing this country fail as quickly as he can as he is aware that he will be a one term president. School children recite Obama chants rather than recite the Pledge of Allegience. Its all hidious BS. The generation of draft card burners during the Vietnam war are the boobs that are now at the helm in this country and they are trying to run us into the rocks...Why?...makes no sense...but thats what they are doing. I can tell you one thing...amricans have had enough...this is not what we worked hard for...Americans will take back what is theirs and reverse this, and I'm afraid push is coming to shove, soon...I'm ready!...g

Standing ovation!!      

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This story is pretty stupid. However, the worst part is not the story, but the fact that this is news. Surely there must be something better to waste our time on.

Like how the Lame Stream Media ignored the devastating floods in Nashville...merely because we didn't cry out for the Gub'ment to hold our hand. We weren't out looting and stealing T.V.s knee deep in water. Being one of the costliest natural disasters in American History excluding Hurricanes, you'd think that was newsworthy...
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Fri May 14, 2010 6:00 pm

Quoting cgnnrw (Reply 22):

Pre WWll, the blueprint to global instability was in place as it currently is now (repeating history scinario)...the camps years later were symptoms of things gone wrong both left and right. (we or I am drifting way off topic, sorry),...then again the reasons for political behavior is a complex issue and goes back a long time. The current climate here in the US has forced me to discard all labels, left, right, centrist, tea bagger, liberal...whatever.... I adopt the philosophy post 9/11. Your either for America or against it. If you selected the later, then please by all means, do select another country in which to exhaust your "carbon footprint"...Here in the US, ALL children should be taught American History...period. American history encompasses many peoples of many nations...no one is excluded. Since when has American History become a poisonous topic that is becoming taboo?
 
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Fri May 14, 2010 6:22 pm

Quoting sw733 (Reply 6):
Immature? No really, immature...it has nothing to do with her views, it has to do with unfairly pushing her views on others. To me, that is a sign of immaturity. I believe that most mature adults understand that people will disagree with them, and just accept it. One side states their thoughts, the other states theirs, they agree to disagree and move on. People who cannot do that, who keep saying that someone else's opinion is wrong just because it is different, are immature in my book. That is the case with this teacher. Certainly not someone I would want teaching my children. If she has different views than me, great! If she pushes those views on my child and tells them everything else is wrong, not cool.

Interestingly no one has commented on this post. I guess that should teach you to post such intellegent thoughts on here.

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 14):
Thats a rediculous comeback...in the US exists an underlying aganda that is targeting students nationwide here in the US. The Obama administration is focusing his effeorts on seeing this country fail as quickly as he can as he is aware that he will be a one term president. School children recite Obama chants rather than recite the Pledge of Allegience. Its all hidious BS. The generation of draft card burners during the Vietnam war are the boobs that are now at the helm in this country and they are trying to run us into the rocks...Why?...makes no sense...but thats what they are doing. I can tell you one thing...amricans have had enough...this is not what we worked hard for...Americans will take back what is theirs and reverse this, and I'm afraid push is coming to shove, soon...I'm ready!...g

Tin-foil hat much?

I'd love to see you cite a statistic that says that many school children recite Obama chants rather than the Pledge. No, I don't mean 10, 15, or even 100 or 500 cases. Because even if there were 5,000 cases, that's the equivalent of saying that adults in this country are molesting children rather than staying normal, appropriate people.

Yes, because if someone doesn't agree with your views, they are obviously trying to destroy this country.

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 23):
Standing ovation!!
Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 24):
Pre WWll, the blueprint to global instability was in place as it currently is now (repeating history scinario)...the camps years later were symptoms of things gone wrong both left and right. (we or I am drifting way off topic, sorry),...then again the reasons for political behavior is a complex issue and goes back a long time. The current climate here in the US has forced me to discard all labels, left, right, centrist, tea bagger, liberal...whatever.... I adopt the philosophy post 9/11. Your either for America or against it. If you selected the later, then please by all means, do select another country in which to exhaust your "carbon footprint"...Here in the US, ALL children should be taught American History...period. American history encompasses many peoples of many nations...no one is excluded. Since when has American History become a poisonous topic that is becoming taboo?

But didn't you know already? We're EVIL, I tell ya! EVIL democrats, and we're so evil, we hate the American flag. It is my goal to burn all American flags and replace them with the Soviet Union flag! Why? Well, there's no logical reason, but fact is, I think there are better ways to run the country than your views, so obviously I'm a pinko, socialist, facist, racist, communist, looney liberal, frenchy french loving, latte-sipping, smart car driving college student god-hater, and I'm here to destroy your country and rape your dog. Tah tah.

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 23):
Like how the Lame Stream Media ignored the devastating floods in Nashville...merely because we didn't cry out for the Gub'ment to hold our hand. We weren't out looting and stealing T.V.s knee deep in water. Being one of the costliest natural disasters in American History excluding Hurricanes, you'd think that was newsworthy...

I do agree with you here. Especially the "Lame Stream Media", nicely done, sir.

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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Fri May 14, 2010 7:00 pm

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 12):
Unfortunately it seems most college professors are trying to brainwash the young adults in this country into believing the far left agenda. It is a real shame. If we can't have religion in the classroom how come we are letting the professors force their beliefs on our kids?

So only one side of the story must be taught ? Only Milton Friedman but not Keynes or Marx ? Why is that ? How can you understand the world and form opinions if you know nothing about the different cultures/systems/theories in the first place, apart for some tired rant ?

Surely young adults can think for themselves ?
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Fri May 14, 2010 7:15 pm

Quoting Aesma (Reply 21):
This story is pretty stupid. However, the worst part is not the story, but the fact that this is news. Surely there must be something better to waste our time on.

It should be clear by now that the right wing nutjobs in the US will not miss any opportunity to get their panties in a twist. Just when you think they cannot get any more ridiculous the FOX lemmings outdo themselves with this fake indignation. Ah well, they provide good entertainment.
 
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Fri May 14, 2010 7:28 pm

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 19):
Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 17):
Name one President who came in after another royally effed things up and won a second term.

Ronald Reagan

   That was too easy... Also:
Abraham Lincoln
FDR
You could even argue Bill Clinton inherited an economic mess, although probably not as bad as what we saw at the end of 2008 and beginning of 2009.
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Fri May 14, 2010 7:56 pm

Quoting afterburner (Reply 18):

Even if it's true, do you believe that they are actively trying to brainwash their students to follow their agenda?

Actively and with purpose? The vast majority, no. The one professor I had (science) that peppered his lessons with political ramblings, I promptly dropped. I wanted to learn about how molecules interact, not why the US is dumb for not signing the Kyoto Protocol.

But it happens in all walks of life that sometimes bias does come across in lessons. By the time you hit college, you should know better than to be influenced just because someone else thinks something. Take their stance and learn from it, agree with it, whatever.

This story is disturbing because a child is being more-than-subtly influenced to demonize religion because it makes certain authority figures uncomfortable, while another is rewarded for merely thinking of someone else the teacher idolizes.

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 20):
Clearly you don't have enough facts to try and balance this attempt at conversation

It was an honest question, and one that I answered honestly. You have to assume good faith sometimes, instead of just dismissing it as liberal propaganda.
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Fri May 14, 2010 7:57 pm

Quoting wolbo (Reply 27):
It should be clear by now that the right wing nutjobs in the US will not miss any opportunity to get their panties in a twist.

It should also be clear that the left wing wackos will not miss any opportunity to get their panties in a wad...as evidenced by this teacher. Who the hell does it offend to draw the flag of the country you're living in!!?? Or that you believe in God!!?? It's these so called 'open minded' liberal folk who get their damn panties in a wad over everything. They love diversity, except diversity of thought...God forbid you believe in something other than what a liberal does.
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Fri May 14, 2010 8:11 pm

I always find it amusing, whenever I hear people foaming at the mouth at how that darn Obama is such a Socialist. Especially since I live in a very much socialist welfare state, and I can guarantee you, you're pretty far off.

But don't ask me, rather ask the editor of The Socialist, the newspaper published by Socialist Party USA: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...le/2009/03/13/AR2009031301899.html
 
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Fri May 14, 2010 9:26 pm

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 23):
Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 14):
.in the US exists an underlying aganda that is targeting students nationwide here in the US. The Obama administration is focusing his effeorts on seeing this country fail as quickly as he can as he is aware that he will be a one term president. School children recite Obama chants rather than recite the Pledge of Allegience. Its all hidious BS. The generation of draft card burners during the Vietnam war are the boobs that are now at the helm in this country and they are trying to run us into the rocks...Why?...makes no sense...but thats what they are doing. I can tell you one thing...amricans have had enough...this is not what we worked hard for...Americans will take back what is theirs and reverse this, and I'm afraid push is coming to shove, soon...I'm ready!...g

Standing ovation!!

Brilliant post! That's how I see it as well! Those far-left boobs are so out of touch with reality and removed from the truth it's not funny at all! They advocate people who were injured or done wrong while in the act of trespassing (i.e. they sue a property owner because they were injured while breaking and entering.) These pieces of human scum are trying to rewrite the American Constitution by pretty much ripping out the Bill of Rights. That property owner's rights granted to him by the 1st and 2nd Amendment were violated here. If you were injured while in the act of committing a crime, you FORFEIT your right to sue here! If you were injured, tough. Go get a band-aid, and rest up in the big house where you belong!

Now, coming back to the discussion here, that kid has every right to write "God Bless America" on something. It's patriotic, if anything. Who the heck is that offending?! I say it all the time just about, and not to mention, this country was founded on God-fearing principals. You know what separation of church and state means to me? it means that this country will not bind itself to one religion. That is also another right granted to us in the Bill of Rights, right/freedom to our own religion. If I want to worship Jesus Christ, I have that right. If Habib chooses to worship Allah, he has that right... Nobody has any right to force religion on any non-believing person or body of people. That's my interpretation of that right here. Did that kid force his religion on anybody here? I don't think so...
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Fri May 14, 2010 9:43 pm

Quoting Airport (Reply 25):
Interestingly no one has commented on this post. I guess that should teach you to post such intellegent thoughts on here.

I just throw my words and thoughts out there...if people want to reflect and comment, so be it...if not, at least I said my true thoughts.
 
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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Fri May 14, 2010 9:47 pm

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 30):
It should also be clear that the left wing wackos will not miss any opportunity to get their panties in a wad...as evidenced by this teacher. Who the hell does it offend to draw the flag of the country you're living in!!?? Or that you believe in God!!?? It's these so called 'open minded' liberal folk who get their damn panties in a wad over everything. They love diversity, except diversity of thought...God forbid you believe in something other than what a liberal does.

1) Point me out a member here who is defending the teacher

2) How in the world is one teacher's opinion represent all the beliefs of millions of democrats? I sure as hell don't support her. As one member here said, it was immaturity on her part. But you would have us all believe that everyone who's not as conservative as you is gung-ho supportive of this teacher. Completely wrong and unsupported.

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 32):
Those far-left boobs are so out of touch with reality and removed from the truth it's not funny at all! They advocate people who were injured or done wrong while in the act of trespassing (i.e. they sue a property owner because they were injured while breaking and entering.) These pieces of human scum are trying to rewrite the American Constitution by pretty much ripping out the Bill of Rights. That property owner's rights granted to him by the 1st and 2nd Amendment were violated here. If you were injured while in the act of committing a crime, you FORFEIT your right to sue here! If you were injured, tough. Go get a band-aid, and rest up in the big house where you belong!

Wha...? What are you even referring to? I'm confused at how that relates to this thread.  
Quoting steeler83 (Reply 32):
Now, coming back to the discussion here, that kid has every right to write "God Bless America" on something. It's patriotic, if anything. Who the heck is that offending?! I say it all the time just about, and not to mention, this country was founded on God-fearing principals. You know what separation of church and state means to me? it means that this country will not bind itself to one religion. That is also another right granted to us in the Bill of Rights, right/freedom to our own religion. If I want to worship Jesus Christ, I have that right. If Habib chooses to worship Allah, he has that right... Nobody has any right to force religion on any non-believing person or body of people. That's my interpretation of that right here. Did that kid force his religion on anybody here? I don't think so...

I completely agree. 100%. And I lean towards the left when it comes to politics. I don't appreciate these blanket statements that are completely unsupported that say or imply that I firmly stand with this teacher. I don't, and I never will. This teacher was in the wrong. Plain and simple. If democrats really stood behind this train of thought, then this kind of stuff would happen all the time. Newsflash, it doesn't. If it did, then it wouldn't be news.

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RE: Drawing The American Flag Offensive?

Fri May 14, 2010 11:53 pm

Quoting Airport (Reply 25):

What ever you say...son...its gonna be your country in ten years after you grow a few hairs on your chest...good luck, you'll need it...   

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