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Dano1977
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Being Cheap!

Wed May 19, 2010 10:56 pm

In the last 6 months I have changed jobs and I now work for a large multi-national company that has a turnover that exceeds $1billion a year. (profit $230million)

But I'm getting frustrated out how tight they can be!.

For example.

1. I have to book my own air tickets (Cheapest economy available) and pay for them on my own credit card
2. I have to pay for my own hotel accomadation on my own credit card
3. All food and drink on own credit card.

We are not owned by a big conglomerate and the only share holders are the founding family. But they own 2 gulfstreams and the BBJ is on order.

I don't mind the economy travel, but why the hell should I have to fork out on my credit card first?

Are their any other companies like this?

[Edited 2010-05-19 16:07:38 by srbmod]
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Wed May 19, 2010 11:02 pm

I assume they reimburse you for your expenses which is standard procedure and there is probably nothing saying you have to use CCs. You can use cash and keep receipts.
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RE: Being Cheap!

Wed May 19, 2010 11:06 pm

Quoting Dano1977 (Thread starter):
1. i have to book my own air tickets (Cheapest economy available) and pay for them on my own credit card
2. i have to pay for my own hotel accomadation on my own credit card
3. all food and drink on own credit card.

But they do compensate you once you've shown receipts right? Companies have done this for years to stem abuses and pilfering from corporate accounts.
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RE: Being Cheap!

Wed May 19, 2010 11:07 pm

Quoting Dano1977 (Thread starter):
i now work for a large multi-national company that has a turnover that exceeds $1billion a year. (profit $230million)

Perhaps one of the reasons the company is profitable is because:

Quoting Dano1977 (Thread starter):
1. i have to book my own air tickets (Cheapest economy available) and pay for them on my own credit card
2. i have to pay for my own hotel accomadation on my own credit card
3. all food and drink on own credit card.
 
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RE: Being Cheap!

Wed May 19, 2010 11:10 pm

Quoting Dano1977 (Thread starter):
1. i have to book my own air tickets (Cheapest economy available) and pay for them on my own credit card

Look on the bright side...with you booking your own air tickets with your own CC, you get to reap in the FF miles and get to keep them should you separate from the company.

Now if the company actually paid for the booking on their own using their CC and you reap in the miles, then when you separate from the company, you have to give those miles back. Most companies do that.
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RE: Being Cheap!

Wed May 19, 2010 11:17 pm

Thanks for the replies.


Yes i get the money back i have forked out on my credit card.

I just think its a poor show from a large company that expects its employee's to suffer the cost first.

My last job was with a small family business who i was a consultant for, but they paid for everything in adavance and gave me a company credit card for expenses.

I guess i have been out of the big company scene for too long
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Wed May 19, 2010 11:23 pm

Cheap is a company not paying you to attend mandatory training. Or refusing to fix equipment (that they own) that they require you to use. Or saves money by going with a cheap clothing company to provide uniforms that don't fit anyone very well yet demands everyone look professional.

That's a cheap company.
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Thu May 20, 2010 12:21 am

Quoting Dano1977 (Thread starter):

I don't really see a problem with that, though personally I would balk@at working somewhere that forces me to fly economy on longer flights.
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Thu May 20, 2010 12:31 am

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 6):
Or refusing to fix equipment (that they own) that they require you to use.

Or expecting you to buy your own equipment and refusing to fix you with the proper paperwork, so you can't even claim it on your tax return (T4a in Canada). Cutting back on car mileage while expecting you to do service and sales calls on top of it.
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Thu May 20, 2010 12:44 am

I run a $200M company and we switched from corporate issued, corporate pay credit card to what you have because employees simply didn't have any incentive to get their expense reports on time. Now we don't have this problem - everyone gets their expense reports in on time (by Tuesday) and the reports get paid on Thursday.

Since the expense reports are processed based on receipts not credit card statements, no only are employees not out any money, they usually have access to the funds several weeks before the bill is due.
 
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Thu May 20, 2010 2:22 am

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 6):
Cheap is a company not paying you to attend mandatory training. Or refusing to fix equipment (that they own) that they require you to use. Or saves money by going with a cheap clothing company to provide uniforms that don't fit anyone very well yet demands everyone look professional.

All true.

Also a cheap company is one that fights you on overtime when you are entitled to earn it and one who does not let you use your alloted vacation time in a given year.

Quoting Dano1977 (Reply 5):
Yes i get the money back i have forked out on my credit card.

I just think its a poor show from a large company that expects its employee's to suffer the cost first.

My company does this to me and I get the reimbursements a month later and it doesn't bother me. What my company does though is give a $130 minimum daily limit when working out of town and is reluctant to give more when it is warranted.

You would have to be bold with them to actually get it if your full hotel and meal expenses cost more than that amount.
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RE: Being Cheap!

Thu May 20, 2010 2:45 am

Quoting Dano1977 (Thread starter):
Are their any other companies like this?

All but one of my employers did this, and the one that did provide us with corporate credit cards ran into abuse problems, and stopped it.

Quoting alberchico (Reply 2):
But they do compensate you once you've shown receipts right? Companies have done this for years to stem abuses and pilfering from corporate accounts.

Correct.
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Thu May 20, 2010 11:36 am

Ah, I know how it feels working for a large company... For example:

They refuse to replace my laptop that keeps on freezing until the lease runs out at the end of the year, the work phone is the cheapest nokia around. During busy times, I may need to take the computer home and have to use my own net. No overtime payments at all.
 
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RE: Being Cheap!

Thu May 20, 2010 12:13 pm

Quoting starac17 (Reply 10):
Also a cheap company is one that fights you on overtime when you are entitled to earn it

I was never entitled to overtime. With ABI I can at least substitute it for time off. However, there is no one who would do my work, so...

Quoting starac17 (Reply 10):
What my company does though is give a $130 minimum daily limit when working out of town and is reluctant to give more when it is warranted.

If it's hotel + meals, it's really cheapo...but again, I've been in similar situation before. Hotel limit $ 80, meal limit $ 45.
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RE: Being Cheap!

Thu May 20, 2010 1:35 pm

Have to also float my own money first for travel, however company is very quick to reimburse money.

As gatorfan said, you do get your money back long before the bill is due so you are really never out anything for a long period of time.

As far as limits go, there are none imposed. They leave it to you to make the best decision based on what you need to do.

Works out fine every time.
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RE: Being Cheap!

Thu May 20, 2010 2:53 pm

As an employee of the state of South Carolina you guys have it nice. Reimbursements from the state can take 4-8 weeks to process.
 
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Thu May 20, 2010 7:22 pm

4-8 weeks??!!! I sure as hell hope they are paying the intrest!!
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RE: Being Cheap!

Thu May 20, 2010 7:56 pm

Quoting clemsonaj (Reply 15):
Reimbursements from the state can take 4-8 weeks to process.


 Wow! Holy hell! That's forever! Like bhill said.....

Quoting bhill (Reply 16):
I sure as hell hope they are paying the intrest!!

+1
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Fri May 21, 2010 12:22 am

I have yet to ever receive interest payments. They're so slow down in Columbia it's not funny.
 
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RE: Being Cheap!

Fri May 21, 2010 7:31 pm

Clemsonaj....I would have hauled them into small claims court, not so much for the cash, but for the principle, as the State is getting something for nothing. Try telling YOUR creditors that your bills will be paid 2 months late....
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RE: Being Cheap!

Fri May 21, 2010 8:08 pm

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 17):
Holy hell! That's forever!

That's nothing, it cant take 6 months if not more in other countries.

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