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Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 12:48 am

TIGER Woods' wife has upped the ante in their divorce battle, with reports claiming she is demanding as much as $US750 million.
In addition to the money, Elin Nordegren has abandoned her bid for joint custody and now wants to be the sole legal guardian of their two young children, US reports say.
Nordegren and Woods have hired top divorce lawyers as they negotiate their split over the bombshell revelations of golfer Woods' secret playboy lifestyle.
Swede Nordegren, who has hired a London law firm to fight it out with Woods' Florida attorneys, wanted $US750 million from the split, the Chicago Sun-Times reported.
It would make the split the most expensive celebrity divorce, eclipsing the $600 million settlement expected in actor Mel Gibson's divorce, which is still being finalised. Woods' fortune was valued as high as $1.2 billion in 2008.
The couple had reportedly been working towards a joint custody agreement, but the Sun-Times reported yesterday the separation had "turned extremely testy".
Nordegren, who has moved out of the couple's Florida mansion, has also refused to sign a lifetime "confidentiality clause" designed to ban her from giving tell-all interviews about their five-year marriage.
Meanwhile, Woods was reportedly seen last week on the golf course inside his gated Orlando community with a mystery blonde woman.
"Tiger was on the golf course the other day, hitting balls," a witness told Radaronline.
"He was with a very pretty blonde who looked a lot like Elin. She was sitting in the golf cart while he was playing."
Woods, who is at home struggling with neck pain, has committed to playing in a string of high-profile golf tournaments in coming months.


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She's gone too far why deprive him of his children...$750 million? geez...I can't help but be on team Tiger...
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 1:09 am

Didn't she sign a pre-up? She doesn't deserve 750 mil
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 1:12 am

But cheating on his wife with god only knows how many women is ok?
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 1:21 am

Let's see..... $750 million for approximately 1900 days of marriage to Tiger. That's only about $400,000 dollars per day she gets.

Hey Tiger..... even high-class hookers would have been cheaper!!!!
 
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 2:53 am

She deserves every penny she can get.

Anyhow Tiger is busy paying out other people as well -- reportedly paying off Rachel Uchitel mistress # who knows, $10mil a couple weeks ago.
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 3:12 am

Why would she need $750 million? What would she do with that much money?
 
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 3:16 am

Quoting bohica (Reply 5):
What would she do with that much money?

Spend it?
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 3:17 am

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 2):
But cheating on his wife with god only knows how many women is ok?

No. But that's not an excuse for her to be a greedy bitch either.
 
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 3:23 am

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 7):

No. But that's not an excuse for her to be a greedy bitch either.

Well, that's what gold diggers do. OTOH Tiger should know better and don't marry her without a good pre-nup.
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 3:27 am

If that is half I think its what she should get.

She is a lot more than just his wife, she is the mother of his children. Tiger should just pay up and try to have a decent relationship with her for the sake of the kids. After what his has done to their family life is going to be hard enough for those kids, the last thing they need is their parents fighting over money and custody. The fact is that he has put this woman through complete hell, he has completely ruined her life and made her look like a fool. Isn't that enough? Does he really need to fight with her over money now? Just give her half and move on.
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 3:39 am

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 2):
But cheating on his wife with god only knows how many women is ok?
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 4):
She deserves every penny she can get.
Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 9):
If that is half I think its what she should get.

Whaaaat???

Why? She didn't earn it. He was already wealthy and famous when they got together. Sure, she deserves enough to be comfortable the rest of her life, but I think $10-$20 million should be sufficient for that. But the better part of a billion bucks?

I think Tiger is a turd for what he did and was sympathetic for Elin. But this made me lose all respect and sympathy I may have had for her. She's a golddigger 'ho now.
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 3:51 am

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 10):
Why? She didn't earn it. He was already wealthy and famous when they got together. Sure, she deserves enough to be comfortable the rest of her life, but I think $10-$20 million should be sufficient for that. But the better part of a billion bucks?

That is not the point though if he had the money before hand. When he agreed to marry her, he agreed to share what he had/has so it's to late to change his mind now.
What a silly man, to get your self into that position.
He new, when he was sleeping with these tarts, that if he got caught it would cost him dearly and well, It has, BIG TIME.

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Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 10):
I think Tiger is a turd for what he did and was sympathetic for Elin.

You bet he is.   

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 10):
But this made me lose all respect and sympathy I may have had for her. She's a golddigger 'ho now.

Hang on a sec, who did the wrong thing here ????
Did she have affairs all around the world that you couldn't count on two hands ?

NO he did, and he should pay for F_____ing the whole marriage up !!

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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 4:13 am

She should get exactly half of all income derived during the time married. Then there will be child support. Maybe alimony too depending on the state laws.
 
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 4:15 am

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 1):
Didn't she sign a pre-up?
Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 8):
OTOH Tiger should know better and don't marry her without a good pre-nup.

In general a prenup won't cover cheating without it bein a huge increase from the amount in the "normal break up" prenup. I mean think about it, would you sign something that essentially said it was OK for your spouse to fool around on you and if they were caught you still only got the same amount? I wouldn't, I would sign one if needed but the "cheating" fee in it would be huge. Alternately the lower income spouse usually gets much less (if anything) if found to be cheating.


Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 9):
If that is half I think its what she should get.
Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 10):
Whaaaat???

Why? She didn't earn it. He was already wealthy and famous when they got together. Sure, she deserves enough to be comfortable the rest of her life, but I think $10-$20 million should be sufficient for that. But the better part of a billion bucks?

His being married and to a beautiful wife and having the whole family thing, the whole package so to speak, increased his marketability and market value substantially. He had a "good guy" wholesome image that the corporate sponsors loved and paid a lot of money for. And his cheating destroyed a big chunk of that value. Would you give your spouse a pass on the value of your combined "estate" if they destroyed part of it (say thay burned down the house or poisoned the lawn, ran up enormous debt, whatever)? Or would you seek the "full value" that you had before your spouses stupidity destroyed it?

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Mon May 24, 2010 5:44 am

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 11):
Hang on a sec, who did the wrong thing here ????
Did she have affairs all around the world that you couldn't count on two hands ?

NO he did, and he should pay for F_____ing the whole marriage up !!

There's no way that Tiger caused $750 million worth of pain and/or suffering to Elin. Hence, she doesn't deserve nearly that much. As far as I can tell, she deserves the following:
- a chunk of money high enough to sustain herself and the kids comfortably. Let's say $30 million - that's way more than the vast majority of Americans will ever have.
- a penalty for the pain and suffering she was subjected to. Note that Tiger's wealth doesn't affect how much Elin is suffering. Probably should throw in some extra for the nasty media attention the case has drawn, though.
- an amount equal to the income she would have earned if she had kept working as a model rather than becoming a housewife and mother.
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 5:51 am

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 1):

If they have property in California, that prenup probably isn't worth the paper it's printed on.
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 5:57 am

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 14):
There's no way that Tiger caused $750 million worth of pain and/or suffering to Elin.

Says who ?

How do you know how much hurt and pain he has caused, and the fact that now the children will become another statistic with divorced parents

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 14):
. Let's say $30 million - that's way more than the vast majority of Americans will ever have.

What other Americans earn should have nothing to do with it.

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 14):
Note that Tiger's wealth doesn't affect how much Elin is suffering.

Wow, you are drawing assumptions.
How on earth do you know if she is suffering or not ?

Quoting tugger (Reply 13):

His being married and to a beautiful wife and having the whole family thing, the whole package so to speak, increased his marketability and market value substantially. He had a "good guy" wholesome image that the corporate sponsors loved and paid a lot of money for. And his cheating destroyed a big chunk of that value. Would you give your spouse a pass on the value of your combined "estate" if they destroyed part of it (say thay burned down the house or poisoned the lawn, ran up enormous debt, whatever)? Or would you seek the "full value" that you had before your spouses stupidity destroyed it?

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Quoting tugger (Reply 13):
In general a prenup won't cover cheating without it bein a huge increase from the amount in the "normal break up" prenup. I mean think about it, would you sign something that essentially said it was OK for your spouse to fool around on you and if they were caught you still only got the same amount? I wouldn't, I would sign one if needed but the "cheating" fee in it would be huge. Alternately the lower income spouse usually gets much less (if anything) if found to be cheating.

Spot on.
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 6:07 am

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 16):
How do you know how much hurt and pain he has caused

Given that there are millions of divorced women in the US, I'd say their pain and suffering (and the money they get in return, in divorce settlements) is representative of Elin's.

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 16):
How on earth do you know if she is suffering or not ?

I'm not disputing if she's suffering. I'm saying that the pain of the divorce - the pain of losing the man you love, of losing your stable home life, etc. - does not depend on how wealthy the husband is. Tiger might be hundreds of times wealthier than the average American male, but Elin didn't consequently love him hundreds of times as much as the average American wife. Sure, it sucks to lose as big a meal ticket as Tiger, but that's not emotional pain and suffering, that's just greed.

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 16):
What other Americans earn should have nothing to do with it.

Why not? Elin should be supported comfortably for the rest of her life. "Comfortable" is inevitably going to be determined by comparison with the prevailing standard of living in the US.
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 6:17 am

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 17):
"Comfortable" is inevitably going to be determined by comparison with the prevailing standard of living in the US.

It that were the case, then I'd say 2 or 3 million should do it, not 30 mil.   
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 6:19 am

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 17):
Given that there are millions of divorced women in the US, I'd say their pain and suffering (and the money they get in return, in divorce settlements) is representative of Elin's.
Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 17):
Why not?

because most other American's don't get their business splashed over every paper across the globe like this f... up has been.

she deserves what she can get, you seem to forget that this story is global, got to be pretty distressing knowing billions know about your partners other life.

if he

Quoting thegreatRDU (Thread starter):
She's gone too far why deprive him of his children...$750 million? geez...I can't help but be on team Tiger...

I'd be waiting for another source...
 
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Mon May 24, 2010 7:05 am

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 14):
- a chunk of money high enough to sustain herself and the kids comfortably. Let's say $30 million - that's way more than the vast majority of Americans will ever have.

For starters $30mil settlement would be joke. You expect her to get by the next 40-years and also raise children on less then $1mil/year (and don't forget taxes that will knock that down even further).

Then its an even bigger joke when Tiger's paying out $10mil to his mistresses.

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 14):
Note that Tiger's wealth doesn't affect how much Elin is suffering.

But his wealth very much effects the payout. The richer you are the bigger claim can be made, and accordingly awarded.

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 17):
Why not? Elin should be supported comfortably for the rest of her life. "Comfortable" is inevitably going to be determined by comparison with the prevailing standard of living in the US.

You must be living in fantasy land if you expect Elin to have a future lifestyle determined by the average American.

In high end cases of divorce its very common where spousal support is awarded that requires the existing life style be maintained, especially with children involved.

Here in LA we currently have a public divorce taking place of the Dodger's owners Frank McCourt where the eventual settlement might be in the $400mil range.
Just last week a judge ordered Mr. McCourt to support his wife to the tune of $637,000/month plus maintain about $410,000 in household and staff expenses before the case even formally gets under way.

So not Tiger is not getting away with cheesy $30mil. Add a zero and maybe they have a deal.
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 8:13 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 20):
So not Tiger is not getting away with cheesy $30mil. Add a zero and maybe they have a deal.

So you concede that the $750M figure is ridiculous, then?

Look, Woods is clearly a cad and deserves to set Elin up for life - but $750M is excessive. I can see a ceiling of $350M here, tops. And even that is a bit much if you ask me.
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 8:54 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 4):
She deserves every penny she can get.

I agree

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 10):
Why? She didn't earn it.

Of course she did. I am in a job that pays pretty well, (not as well as Tiger of course!). My wife doesn't perform a "paid job" but without her partnership in supporting me, raising our children, and maintaining our household and family "business" ,(investments, etc), there is no way that we would be in the positive situation we are today. Her contribution to the success of our marriage and family in an emotional, financial, vocational, and practical sense are at least as important as mine....probably more. Society should assume, until proven otherwise, that Elin performed this same function within their family.

Add to the Tiger situation that the poor woman has been made a fool of in front of the whole world. Her kids are probbaly being teased mercilessly at school, and will be for a long time.

Hope she gets all that she asks for.
 
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 8:59 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 21):
but $750M is excessive.

It surely is! I’m sure many people in this thread won’t even earn $10 during their whole life.
 
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 9:24 am

Go get 'em, Elin. Yes, the sheer dollar value of what she wants is obscene, but look at who she is married to, and how the marriage broke up. If the dollar value she wants is half of what he was worth before the news of his cheating came out, then her demands are certainly within reason (again, looking at the context of the situation). She didn't cause the breakup, he did by cheating on her. And he made her look like a fool and a complete idiot for actually being a decent person and being the mother to his children, and not looking to use her marriage as a stepping stone for her own career.

She entered into the marriage in good faith, acted in good faith throughout the marriage, and was not responsible for the breakup.

Quoting tugger (Reply 13):
His being married and to a beautiful wife and having the whole family thing, the whole package so to speak, increased his marketability and market value substantially. He had a "good guy" wholesome image that the corporate sponsors loved and paid a lot of money for. And his cheating destroyed a big chunk of that value.

Spot on. She may have not earned any money herself during the time she was married, but her presence as Tiger's wife certainly helped him earn more money because of the marketability factor--Mr. Perfect, Mr. Clean Image. He would have made a bunch of money without being married to her, but to say she contributed nothing in terms of financials to the household is way off.

Quoting tugger (Reply 13):
In general a prenup won't cover cheating without it bein a huge increase from the amount in the "normal break up" prenup. I mean think about it, would you sign something that essentially said it was OK for your spouse to fool around on you and if they were caught you still only got the same amount?

Well, it depends on how many brain cells you have. If you are smart, then of course you wouldn't.
 
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 10:34 am

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 2):
But cheating on his wife with god only knows how many women is ok?

Who said it was OK? And if their marriage post-children was sexless, than it was only a matter of time anyway for a guy like Tiger.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 10):
Whaaaat???

Why? She didn't earn it. He was already wealthy and famous when they got together. Sure, she deserves enough to be comfortable the rest of her life, but I think $10-$20 million should be sufficient for that. But the better part of a billion bucks?

I think Tiger is a turd for what he did and was sympathetic for Elin. But this made me lose all respect and sympathy I may have had for her. She's a golddigger 'ho now.

     

Quoting kiwiinoz (Reply 22):
Her contribution to the success of our marriage and family in an emotional, financial, vocational, and practical sense are at least as important as mine....probably more. Society should assume, until proven otherwise, that Elin performed this same function within their family.

Perhaps that's true. On the other hand, there is nothing to discount the notion that sexual satisfaction enhances athletic performance - and in Tiger's case, those crazy $50,000 orgies might have been just what he needed to terminate on the golf course. The fact that she's asking so much guarantees that both sides' lawyers are going for the jugular.
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 11:18 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 20):
For starters $30mil settlement would be joke. You expect her to get by the next 40-years and also raise children on less then $1mil/year (and don't forget taxes that will knock that down even further).

Then its an even bigger joke when Tiger's paying out $10mil to his mistresses.

Oh no! The poor woman will starve to death! Many families cope with less than that, why couldn't she?  
Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 2):
But cheating on his wife with god only knows how many women is ok?

Tiger is a piece of s*it for what he did to his family, but c'mon, $750 Mil!? I can understand $100 Mil, but $750 Mil is just good ole golddiggin'!

At the end of the day, he didn't break a law or kill anyone.
 
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 11:22 am

There are a number of issues that disturb me about this marriage, Elin's behaviors, her obscene demands and Tiger's real wealth.

- Is Tiger still worth $1 Billion? Probably his endorsement income is less than $250 Million. But for Nike, the others paying him big bucks would have cut their payments down in the current economic recession. Add to that the real value of that money after taxes, commissions to his agents, costs of personal security, travel expenses and so on that could cut the real gross amount to a much lower amount, perhaps by half ($500 Million).

- Tiger has only played in a few tournments so far this year and his quality of play has been much lower then we come to expect. One has to wonder if he is intentionally playing bad to hold down his income that can be assessed in the divorce settlement.

- Why did Elin apparently never seek US Citizenship and maintained her Swedish citizenship? I would assume that she had a legal residence card but retained here Swedish citizenship with the possible knowlege of the marriage failing?

- Tiger has withheld filing a criminal complaint against Elin as to her assulting him that infimous night. Perhaps he is fearful that a felony criminal conviction would prevent her from being allowed to enter the USA again, limiting access to their chidren.

- A number of years ago, there was a messy divorce involving the then head of GE. She was wife # 2, gave up a career as a lawyer for a big law firm, and so on and also sought half of the assets which were worth well over $100 Million+. I believe she got a settlement of less than half of the assets.

- Are Elin's attonreys working on the typical contigency rate for a settlement/judgment for personal injury lawsuits of 30%? 30% of $750 MM is a lot more than on $500 MM.

- Was she a golddigger? She had to know the risks of any marriage and involving very public persons. Her own parents are divorced, her mother is a government minister, her father a well know journalist. More importantly she had to known for years or months, heard rumors of his having sex with other women long before that night of the swinging clubs.

- Is she going for so much money as most, if not over 80% of it could be taken in taxes in Sweden?

- Is buying silence as to any book, stores, interviews discussing her marriage to Tiger worth $750 Million? I doubt she would get more that maybe $10 Million from such income.

There is no doubt Elin has had her life ruined, bore 2 children with Tiger of mixed race, will face considerable issues of security and privacy as a divorced ex of Tiger. But that is not worth $750 Million.
 
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 1:22 pm

Florida is a no-fault divorce state. Whatever Tiger did or didn't do to deserve this should be meaningless in the calculation of the alimony. Furthermore, if the pre-nup was properly created it should be enforced no matter what the consequence. This country is going to hell in a hand basket because we don't allow consenting adults to enter into legally enforceable contracts.

In order for a pre-nup to be enforceable, all sorts of hoops need to be jumped through, including full disclosure of assets, separate attorneys, time to consider the offer and other protections to help make sure one partie is not taken advantage of. If she signed then away her rights to what the state law entitles her to after all that, then too bad.

I see this as no different than an idiot homeowner who paid too much for a house and then wants the bank to eat it. Don't enter into contracts if you can't live with the consequences.
 
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 1:46 pm

I look at divorce settlements in the case of infidelity as a bet. When you enter a marriage, you are betting a portion (nominally half) of your assets and possibly future income that you will stay faithful. He lost the bet. It's that simple.
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 1:49 pm

Quoting US330 (Reply 24):
She may have not earned any money herself during the time she was married, but her presence as Tiger's wife certainly helped him earn more money because of the marketability factor--Mr. Perfect, Mr. Clean Image. He would have made a bunch of money without being married to her, but to say she contributed nothing in terms of financials to the household is way off.

Tiger would still be the top golfer in the country if he hadn't married her, and there are plenty of very wealthy single athletes. There's no way she's responsible for anything close to $750 mil. of his wealth.

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 25):
Who said it was OK? And if their marriage post-children was sexless, than it was only a matter of time anyway for a guy like Tiger.

Heck, if their marriage post-children was sexless, then it was okay for Tiger to sleep with other women.

Quoting US330 (Reply 24):
She entered into the marriage in good faith, acted in good faith throughout the marriage, and was not responsible for the breakup.

This "it's his fault, ergo take half his money" logic doesn't fly. If a kid shoplifts a computer game, it's certainly his fault, but that doesn't mean you can sentence him to life in prison or anything like that. The responsible party should pay a penalty appropriate to the degree of wrongdoing.
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 1:53 pm

Quoting N328KF (Reply 29):
When you enter a marriage, you are betting a portion (nominally half) of your assets and possibly future income that you will stay faithful. He lost the bet. It's that simple.

What a ridiculous basis for assessing risk in a marriage - nobody "owns" the other person sexually - that's just pathological nonsense.
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 4:31 pm

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 21):
So you concede that the $750M figure is ridiculous, then?

No not at all. Tiger is reportedly worth well north of $1bil, then she should be able to file a claim to it.

Quoting aviationmaster (Reply 26):
Oh no! The poor woman will starve to death! Many families cope with less than that, why couldn't she?

Because why should she? She was married and living a certain lifestyle that should largely be maintained.
In addition she is the mother of his two children, and I doubt Tiger would want his children to have to downscale or change the quality of their lives, from homes, access to activities and trips to staff such as drivers / nanny's etc.
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 4:35 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 32):
I doubt Tiger would want his children to have to downscale or change the quality of their lives, from homes, access to activities and trips to staff such as drivers / nanny's etc.

That would be unlikely to happen, no? Regardless of $750 million settlement or not, it seems highly unlikely from what we know of him that he'd allow his children to endure a depreciation of QOL.
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 4:36 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 32):
Tiger is reportedly worth well north of $1bil, then she should be able to file a claim to it.

More than half of it?

Really?

REALLY?

C'mon, you know that's absurd. Is the woman entitled to a nine-figure settlement? You bet!

But $750M is far too much. Cut it in half and you're about in the top-end of the ballpark.
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 4:46 pm

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Huh!

Elin was rich before she met Tiger?? Nope, she was a nanny at Mr Parnevik´s house (also a golfer)

I say: U go girl, leave that piece of crap and let him continue with his "hole-in-one"...

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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 4:51 pm

I sometimes wonder if we really are in the 21st century. Why should she get all that money ? Why betrayal equals money ?
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 5:13 pm

Personally, I don't the obscene thing is how much she is asking for or will get, but rather how the lawyers will make off of this. A third of that for one case?!? That's insane.

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 25):
Who said it was OK? And if their marriage post-children was sexless, than it was only a matter of time anyway for a guy like Tiger.

I always wonder why people excuse a frigid partner in the relationship.

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 27):

There is no doubt Elin has had her life ruined, bore 2 children with Tiger of mixed race, will face considerable issues of security and privacy as a divorced ex of Tiger. But that is not worth $750 Million.

Real nice to imply that children of mixed race are an extra special burden.
 
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 7:59 pm

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 30):
Heck, if their marriage post-children was sexless, then it was okay for Tiger to sleep with other women.

ARE YOU JOKING!!!!!!

It would NEVER be okay for him to sleep with other women. What kind of person are you to think that something like that would be okay? I guess your family left out the morals part when you were growing up.
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 8:04 pm

Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 38):
It would NEVER be okay for him to sleep with other women. What kind of person are you to think that something like that would be okay?

Well, please explain what would be wrong with it? Quit with the "it's bad...just cuz"
 
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 8:26 pm

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 30):
Heck, if their marriage post-children was sexless, then it was okay for Tiger to sleep with other women.
Quoting Zentraedi (Reply 37):
I always wonder why people excuse a frigid partner in the relationship.
Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 38):
ARE YOU JOKING!!!!!!

It would NEVER be okay for him to sleep with other women. What kind of person are you to think that something like that would be okay? I guess your family left out the morals part when you were growing up.
Quoting Zentraedi (Reply 39):
Well, please explain what would be wrong with it? Quit with the "it's bad...just cuz"

Leaving aside the morality aspect, if it was not part of any sort of "arrangement," then it is a violation of trust. It would only be "OK" if Elin were permissive of the situation. It appears that this was not the case, and therefore Tiger violated their particular arrangement.

It's only an open relationship if both parties see it that way.
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 8:59 pm

Quoting N328KF (Reply 40):

It's only an open relationship if both parties see it that way.

A frigid wife is violating one of the obligations in that trust pact. If the wife is going abandon that, why should he remain bound and suffer with this biological need?

The commitment isn't just "don't have sex with anyone else"....it's to be there for each other and support. Actually, in a lot of places and except for the puritanical, sex is a minor issue. The more important thing is that he is there to support the family both financial and emotionally.

Honestly, how much damage is done by a father having a strictly sexual affair on the side versus withdrawal from family life or abandoning financial support?? Ask your self that... If your father done those, which would be worse? Which would have actually harmed you?
 
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 9:00 pm

Quoting US330 (Reply 24):
She entered into the marriage in good faith, acted in good faith throughout the marriage, and was not responsible for the breakup.

And HOW could you possibly know that? Perhaps she has been a goldigger all along. Working as an "au pair" or nanny for a pittance. Saw a chance to snag a rich famous guy and get him to marry her. Pop out a few kids, then totally deny him any sex from that point forward. Knowing he'd LIKELY stray in that type of sexless marriage. Who the hell really knows what went on behind the closed doors of their marriage? "Good Faith" are just two words that are totally useless without any actual knowledge of the FACTS of their marriage.

Oh, and she also is demanding FULL CUSTODY of the children. What ever happened to the RIGHTS of a FATHER to share custody in the event a marriage disolves? Because while Tiger may have strayed from the marriage bed, there is absolutely no commentary of him not being a good father. At least not until her lawyers start their game.

I'm not taking Tiger's side, nor am I willing to give Elin a full and free ride at his expence either.
 
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 9:42 pm

Quoting Zentraedi (Reply 37):
Personally, I don't the obscene thing is how much she is asking for or will get, but rather how the lawyers will make off of this. A third of that for one case?!? That's insane.

This is a divorce case, not a tort or malpractice case for instance where where attorney's work off contingency fees.
Divorce attorneys charge ongoing hourly rates and not reliant on the outcome for reimbursement.

Anyhow, for the record many localities in the US, have limitations and statutory formula from damage awards that are applied towards attorneys fees, and not the generic 1/3.
For instance, a State I have done business in has a sliding scale that starts with 33% of damage awards up $300,000 dropping down to 11.6% for awards above $10mil.
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 10:05 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 43):
Divorce attorneys charge ongoing hourly rates and not reliant on the outcome for reimbursement.

Wow, didn't know that. Good to hear.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 43):
Anyhow, for the record many localities in the US, have limitations and statutory formula from damage awards that are applied towards attorneys fees, and not the generic 1/3.
For instance, a State I have done business in has a sliding scale that starts with 33% of damage awards up $300,000 dropping down to 11.6% for awards above $10mil.

Interesting. I can verify that wasn't the case in Illinois[Cook County]...at least not 10 years ago. A relative got close to $20 mil in a suit and the main lawyer that worked for years on the case definitely got 1/3. He had to share 1/3 of that with the initial referring family lawyer who actually did nothing. Now that was just insane...over $1 mil for a referral???
 
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 10:25 pm

I seriously doubt she is a saint and won't be surprised if later down the road, she turns out to be just as big of a cheat as Tiger.
And no matter what, that sum of money just reeks of greediness. Heck, people who loss their entire family in an airline crash are lucky if they get 10 millions
And she is a model, so she is no poor-nobody who won't be able to get money either.
 
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 10:50 pm

freaking goldigger
It's just too much money
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 10:52 pm

Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 38):
Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 30):
Heck, if their marriage post-children was sexless, then it was okay for Tiger to sleep with other women.

ARE YOU JOKING!!!!!!

It would NEVER be okay for him to sleep with other women. What kind of person are you to think that something like that would be okay? I guess your family left out the morals part when you were growing up.

Sorry, dude, but Yellowstone is exactly right.

Humans are intensely sexual beings. If in a marriage, that activity is diminished...you expect a man (women usually exhibit better control - usually) ...you expect a man to accept those conditions? Coax her to attend counseling? When too much work goes into it..it kills it. It's no longer 'fun' but clinical in practice.

The unacknowledged truth is, cheating, infidelity has probably saved more marriages than all counseling sessions combined-worldwide. Why? Because if the woman doesn't wanna... he strays, then comes home and doesn't bother her with one thing she doesn't want to discuss. Do situations like this causes disasterous divorces as well? Absolutely, money and sex (lack up) are the two leading causes for split-ups and divorces. No one knows which is number #1. My bet is..sex! Because most of us lie about sex. Some chiming in on this board are guilty of exactly what Tiger has beeen doing..yet they are here calling him names for it. Some have been cheated on and are lashing out on Tiger in the harshes of terms, they're projecting. But they'll never admit here.

Men and have been sleeping around on their spouses before 'marriage' was invented. It's not gonna change in any of our life times. Am I encouraging it? No, it doesn't need my encouragement..it's happening anyway. Look at the Congressional scandals just in the last 12 months alone. Do you think for a minute, that's all their is. I bet anything what we've seen is the tip of the iceberg - half of Congress married or partnered up...is guilty of this - and they are reflective of what the population is doing. Being hypocrites.

Back to the point, sexlessness in a marriage is asking, no begging for trouble...period.

$750 mil....you gotta start out high, in hopes of arriving at the number you can walk away with satified. Is it deserved? No. If she pulls it off, bravo for her. But any woman who marries a powerful/wealthy (young) man and expects him to be Ward Cleaver is nuts. Everyone knows that a wealthy young man sees himself as Hugh Hefner for a few years - no matter what words come out of his mouth - the thoughts (desires) are there. Why? Because you live in the circle of 'I can have it all'... and with the hottest of women constantly seeking you out (and you can bet your ass they will) it takes the mightiest of minds to continuously decline that kind of talent. Until he puts that fire out (if he ever does)..all bets are off as far as fidelity goes. It is the nature of the beast.


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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 10:56 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 4):
She deserves every penny she can get.

Wrong.

Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 9):

She is a lot more than just his wife, she is the mother of his children.

Meaning...? There's more to life than getting knocked up. 'Mother' is something that encompases more than spreadin one's legs for an incredibly wealthy man. Her claims in this case show clearly where her priorities are, and it obviously is not their children.

Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 9):
The fact is that he has put this woman through complete hell, he has completely ruined her life and made her look like a fool. Isn't that enough? Does he really need to fight with her over money now? Just give her half and move on.

Hell? Like the kind Ryannair gets everytime they claim they'll start charging for use of lavs? She's a model. Those things live for attention.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 15):
If they have property in California, that prenup probably isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

Correct. As it would be in most states. Pretty much all she would have to do is say that she signed it under "duress" and out it goes.

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 17):

Given that there are millions of divorced women in the US, I'd say their pain and suffering (and the money they get in return, in divorce settlements) is representative of Elin's.

Right, only women have any kind of pain and suffering WRT divorce. Never mind the chump who's going through the exact same process, but has to actually pay for it.

For those who really feel the need to take this woman's side, ask yourselves this. What, for $750m, was she doing so badly that the work had to be outsourced in the first place?
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RE: Elin Seeks $750 Mil And The Kids

Mon May 24, 2010 11:36 pm

Quoting BN747 (Reply 47):
Humans are intensely sexual beings. If in a marriage, that activity is diminished

If a marriage is not consummated it is grounds for an annulment in many cases.
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