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Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:17 pm

Dear Members,


This is a continuation thread from part 7 which can be found here: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #7

Please feel free to continue your discussion in this new edition. Enjoy the remainder of the 2010 FIFA World Cup!


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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:31 pm

Germany:Uruguay = 3:1

Netherlands:Spain = 2:1
 
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:41 pm

Quoting sw733 (Reply 1):
Netherlands:Spain = 2:1

As much as the Netherlands are way up there on teams 'deserving' to be champions I have a bad feeling about this and we will have to put up with Spain's newly aquired bragging rights in social life and media. LOL. Having said that, the Spanish gave Germany a run for their money and will be a formidable rival in the final.
 
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:10 pm

Quoting EZEIZA:
"clearly less people in the streets compared to other Spanish cities, but still looks like a decent crowd singing "Barcelona is Spanish"! Laporta probably won't be too happy Wink"

I live in Barcelona. It just bore no comparison with the amount of people in the streets when FC Barcelona wins. (Well, for all purposes, it was FC Barcelona who won yesterday, but that's another story.) The Marca article is predictably biased. Today, coming to work, I saw exactly zero Spanish flags anywhere. And zero people on campus wearing the Spanish shirt. After FC Barcelona won the 2009 Champions League final, there were plenty of people around wearing the blaugrana shirt (including yours truly).
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:37 pm

Quoting UALWN (Reply 3):
It just bore no comparison with the amount of people in the streets when FC Barcelona wins

That's what I thought too, but still it was quite a few people celebrating .. enough to piss off the pro-independence 

I'd love to see the anti Spanish Barca fans if Cataluña becomes independent from Spain ... the excitment surrpunding a Barca-Palamós must be amazing!
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:47 pm

About Robben ony having '1' move; he scored with a header against Uruguay  
 
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:21 pm

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 4):
enough to piss off the pro-independence

I am pro-independence. And I wasn't pissed off.

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 4):
I'd love to see the anti Spanish Barca fans if Cataluña becomes independent from Spain ... the excitment surrpunding a Barca-Palamós must be amazing!

About as much as Barca-Numancia, or Barca-Cadiz. On the other hand, Barca-Chelsea would be as exciting as ever. And, of course, Catalonia-Spain would be extremely interesting. And you know who would win (for now).
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:39 pm

Might actually be a stupid question, but which language is actually spoken in the Spanish national team, and at the FC Barcelona? I would expect catalan to be spoken at the FC B, but what about the national team? They have many players from Barcelona, so how is it there?
 
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:48 pm

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 7):
Might actually be a stupid question, but which language is actually spoken in the Spanish national team, and at the FC Barcelona?

There's no question that Spanish is used in the Spanish team. Even at FC Barcelona, I would say that Spanish is probably the lingua franca. Although many of the players do speak Catalan among themselves and with Guardiola.
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:24 pm

Quoting sw733 (Reply 1):
Germany:Uruguay = 3:1

I understand the octopus, Paul Nostradamus, will be asked on Friday about who will win the game between Uruguay and Germany..

We should take this into consideration very seriously. We all know what happened in the semi-final.

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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:31 pm

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 9):
I understand the octopus, Paul Nostradamus, will be asked on Friday about who will win the game between Uruguay and Germany..

They even said that he shall also predict the final. Normally Paul is only asked for german games, but this one time he shall also try to predict the final.

I read that those octopus only get 2-3 years old, so he will be dead when the Euro 2012 takes place  
 
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:33 pm

Quoting UALWN (Reply 6):
On the other hand, Barca-Chelsea would be as exciting as ever. And, of course, Catalonia-Spain would be extremely interesting. And you know who would win (for now).

would it? If Barca did not compete in Spain, they would not compete against RM, Valencia, Sevila or At. Madrid. How would Barca manage to make it attractive for palyers to play against Gramenet, Sabadell or Terrasa? Once they stop playing in Spain, the exposure would diminish, the TV audiences would fall, the money would stop flowing. It woudl be the end of Barca as we know it.
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:44 pm

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 9):
I understand the octopus, Paul Nostradamus, will be asked on Friday about who will win the game between Uruguay and Germany..

I am a big fan of the Octopus...

 
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:52 pm

Quoting sw733 (Reply 12):

No chance.

The owners of octopus Paul Nostradamus, the Sea Life Park at Oberhausen, said they will keep him alive and will most probably use him for other predictions in the future.

  
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:00 pm

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 10):
They even said that he shall also predict the final. Normally Paul is only asked for german games, but this one time he shall also try to predict the final.

as previously shown, the octopus has a preference for Spain, he has 2 times chosen Spain as a winner , first time he was wrong and this time he was right, no doubt he will choose Spain again for the final, but he will be proven wrong and diner after that   

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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:03 pm

Paul even has an own page on Facebook and he already has 49.898 fans, among them a bunch of A.netters incl. myself. 

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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:35 pm

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 15):
Paul even has an own page on Facebook and he already has 49.898 fans, among them a bunch of A.netters incl. myself.

Thank you for the info. I have joined the group. Octopus football predictor has now 50,637 followers worldwide. He should be awarded a special Cup by FIFA.

     
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:22 pm

Quoting PH-BFA (Reply 5):
About Robben ony having '1' move; he scored with a header against Uruguay

and his reaction after the goal was of surprise...let's say one and a half moves.  

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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:24 pm

English referee and linesmen for the Final,. the 1st English referee for the Final since Jack Taylor in 1974 when he took charge of Holland v West Germany and awarded 2 penalties with the 1st being a minute into the game.
 
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Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:57 pm

Quoting BR076 (Reply 14):
as previously shown, the octopus has a preference for Spain, he has 2 times chosen Spain as a winner , first time he was wrong and this time he was right, no doubt he will choose Spain again for the final, but he will be proven wrong and diner after that

Actually in 2008 Paul chose Germany over Spain and he was wrong., the only time he has been wrong. So, if anything, he's biased against Spain! People in Spain joke that in 2008 Paul was young and still learning his trade. Now he seems to have mastered it.
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:59 pm

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 11):
How would Barca manage to make it attractive for palyers to play against Gramenet, Sabadell or Terrasa?

By playing also against Chelsea, ManU, Milan, Inter, Bayern, etc. Exactly as they do now. Nobody outside Spain gives a damn about a Sevilla-Barca match....
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:27 pm

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 4):
I'd love to see the anti Spanish Barca fans if Cataluña becomes independent from Spain ... the excitment surrpunding a Barca-Palamós must be amazing!

I heard from Laporta that if Catalunya is one day independant, FC Barcelona would still play in the Spanish championship. Exactly like Monaco plays in the French one.
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:46 pm

Quoting UALWN (Reply 20):
By playing also against Chelsea, ManU, Milan, Inter, Bayern, etc. Exactly as they do now. Nobody outside Spain gives a damn about a Sevilla-Barca match....

with time, the team would start losing the stars and would end up not playing against Chelsea, Man u, etc ...
Believe me, if Barca does not play the Spanish League, they would nearly dissapear. The same thing would happen if suddenly the Madrid teams would play a separate league. Maybe you believe no one cares about a Sevilla-Barca, but check the tv audiences world wide. Teams like RM, Barcelona, Juve, Man Utd, etc. have huge audiences no matter who they play against, but that would change if they played regional championships only.

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 21):
I heard from Laporta that if Catalunya is one day independant, FC Barcelona would still play in the Spanish championship. Exactly like Monaco plays in the French one.

I heard that too, which if it ever happened would be a load of BS. You can't have it both ways, either they can be independent or not, but not in what's convinient and what's not. Monaco is a completely different scenario.
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:13 pm

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 22):
I heard that too, which if it ever happened would be a load of BS. You can't have it both ways, either they can be independent or not, but not in what's convinient and what's not.

Really? Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are NOT independent, but they have their own leagues. Who says that an opposite arrangement could not be forged in Spain/Catalonia?

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 22):
Believe me, if Barca does not play the Spanish League, they would nearly dissapear.

Believe me, if Barca did not play the Spanish League, it would survive alright. And since I happen to be part-owner ("soci") of FC Barcelona and happen to live in Barcelona, I kind of think that my believes are more realistic than yours. But, hey, you can always hope.

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 22):
but that would change if they played regional championships only.

Which they would not, of course. They would keep playing the Champions League, or whatever competition the top 12 soccer clubs in Europe decide to put together.
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:25 pm

I think Holland are in a good position because the pressure is off them....most expect Spain (and understandably so) to win the final but the dutch also have some excellent players.

If I was the dutch coach I would be telling them to really have a go at Spain and "get in their faces". Close them down and run hard at them. If you allow Spain to totally dominate like Germany did chance's are you will lose...

Should be a good final...my moneys on Spain but if they play well Holland are certainly capable of winning.


P.s - Is it just me or has it been a pretty disappointing world cup....? I mean we have seen loads of pretty boring games and I can't really think of one stand out game I have really enjoyed. Cant wait for Brazil 2014 though and I will most definatley be going...where better to host a World Cup than Brazil.
 
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:38 pm

Quoting SpeedBirdA380 (Reply 24):
Is it just me or has it been a pretty disappointing world cup....?

No, it is not just you!

These friggin' annoying horns made me boycott this World Cup for two day, they destroyed the World Cup for me almost completely! Then there were way too many wrong decisions from the referees and linesmans, I really think that some of these decisions were "ordered" by the FIFA. Furthermore was I more than surprised about the many empty stadiums, I've never seen that before at any other World Cup.

This is the worst World Cup of all I've seen so far, despite I am glad with the German team's result!

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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:51 pm

Now that we're talking about the quality of this World Cup... I'd like to add the following:
I've just finished watching a review of the World Cup 2002 – what an astonishing atmosphere there was back then!!! No vuvuzelas, but a lot of fans singing along with their drums and other true instruments! Especially the fans of host country South Korea stood out here, most noticeable in the match versus Italy! What a drama... unbelievably pulsating. And hard to image what it would have been like with a constant piss-on-hornets'-net cacophony.

Today's news:

The German team has announced there won't be a fan party like in 2006 upon their return from South Africa because they aren't in party mood. I respect their decision, but I'm sure a lot of loyal supporters of the team will be disappointed. I hope the Mannschaft will do away with their grief in the Uruguay match and recollect their spirit to long for the bronze medal in this tournament!
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:02 am

I'd like to take credit for guaranteeing Spain's win over Germany before the game  Though the score wasn't 3-1 as I predicted, but it was total and complete domination and I did predict some body else would score a goal besides Villa, and Torres LoL

Couple observations about the semi match though: 1. Germany missed Thomas Mueller terribly, especially his pacing and running attack; 2. I think Ozil #8 bought into the media hype about himself. Instead of running and making quick, intelligent passes to his team mates in the counter-attacks as in previous matches, he kept the ball, tried to create something out of nothing and be cute about it, imitating Lionel Messi. Guess what? He went no where, Spain got the ball back and went on to attack. That's the problem of young player with flash of brilliance and promise buying into his own hype prematurely.

Now on to the Final. Spain is going to WIN it and be a new WORLD CUP CHAMPION! Time to spank that punk Robben, and put him and his team where they always belong: World Cup LOSERS.  However, I feel a bit less confident this time though; that bully Van Bommel could put a stopper in the midfield. In any event, let's go ESPANA!

Btw can FIFA do away with the 3rd place consolation match? It's almost cruel to the players and coaches involved. Take 2 deflated teams with deflated, physically tired and emotionally drained players and coaches and make them play in a match that so few care. Cruel punishment!
 
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:38 am

Quoting UALWN (Reply 23):
Really? Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are NOT independent, but they have their own leagues. Who says that an opposite arrangement could not be forged in Spain/Catalonia?

I'm not saying it can't happen. Anything can happen ... they could even make them play the French league if they wanted. It shouldn't happen. That's the point.

Quoting UALWN (Reply 23):
Believe me, if Barca did not play the Spanish League, it would survive alright. And since I happen to be part-owner ("soci") of FC Barcelona and happen to live in Barcelona, I kind of think that my believes are more realistic than yours. But, hey, you can always hope.

what does meing a soci have anything to do with it? What more realistic view can you have of something that hasn't happened yet just because you pay the monthly fee and your abono (or however it works in FCB)?

Quoting UALWN (Reply 23):
They would keep playing the Champions League, or whatever competition the top 12 soccer clubs in Europe decide to put together.

Yes, they would, and they would every year, but top teams can't survive only by participating in the CL. Barcelona needs the Liga, just as much as RM does, or Juve needs the Italian chamionship. How could a club survive without any tv related income if not? Not to mention tickets sold, season tickets, etc. Or are you really going to expect that the stadium would always be full when (aside from a Barca-Espanyol) the top game would be against Sabadell?
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Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:13 am

Spain is not invincible —Switzerland beat the furia roja and Chile made them look their worse so far— but could certainly win the Cup. Spain's biggest virtue is ball possession but offense is the Achilles tendon. Holland has a pretty compact team, with a nice mix of physical strength and air game but without the ball dominance that characterizes the Spanish game.
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Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:42 am

Costa Rica didn't make it to this World Cup, but we did beat Switzerland 1–0 at home —Stade de Tourbillon— in a friendly game last month, while Switzerland went on to beat Spain 1–0 in the first round of the tournament.

So perhaps if football wasn't so rifle with imponderables, we would be getting ready for showtime this Sunday LOL. After all one of the top players in the Costa Rican national team currently plays in the Eredivisie and is thus quite familiar with most of the Dutch players.

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Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:16 am

Quoting PH-BFA (Reply 5):
About Robben ony having '1' move; he scored with a header against Uruguay

And you could see by the way he celebrated it that he could barely believe it 
 
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:01 am

Quoting david_itl (Reply 18):
English referee and linesmen for the Final

... yes... and do not forget that Paul the Octopus is British. He was born in Weymouth.   
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Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:02 am

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 28):
What more realistic view can you have of something that hasn't happened yet just because you pay the monthly fee and your abono (or however it works in FCB)?

I will submit that living in Barcelona, knowing personally zillions of Barca supporters and hundreds of Barca part-owners makes it easier for me to predict what would happen if Barca didn't play in La Liga. Or do you think the supporters attitude wouldn't be relevant?

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 28):
Yes, they would, and they would every year, but top teams can't survive only by participating in the CL.

Actually, that's exactly the plan (maybe "dream" is more accurate) the top European clubs have: create a true European League as the main competition for the top clubs.
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:06 am

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 25):
This is the worst World Cup of all I've seen so far, despite I am glad with the German team's result!

Indeed. I mean I tried to follow it as much as possible, but in the end, the horrible sounds of the vuvuzelas, the empty stadiums,the referee decisions, etc., let me come to the conclusion that this World Cup sucked! I'm confident, Brazil can do much better than that, especially as they're very crazy about football as we all know. They live and breathe football while in South Africa, football isn't as popular as in other African nations.

Quoting viaggiare (Reply 30):
So perhaps if football wasn't so rifle with imponderables, we would be getting ready for showtime this Sunday LOL.

First, the FEDEFUTBOL needs to get its act together, as many times I get the feeling that they serve particular interessts instead of the game, then we can talk about Costa Rica getting further than the Round of 16.  

In other news:

http://www.mopo.de/2010/20100709/wm2...tschesteam/sicher_jogi_bleibt.html (German only)

The Hamburger Morgenpost reports that it's highly likely that Joachim Löw will stay at least another 2 years. If this becomes official, then we will spare ourselves the disgrace of having Matthias Sammer as Bundestrainer. Sammer has been so obsessed with the job, that he was hoping for Löw and Co. to go in disgrace so he (a simple official who apart from one championship with the BVB, has been mostly a failure as manager) can take over as Bundestrainer.

I know I was one of those who called for Löw's resignation, but after this world cup, I'm willing to give him another chance.
 
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:09 am

Just in on CNN's homepage lol



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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:24 am

Probably a last-ditch effort to save himself from the deep fryer. Apparently, octopus recipes are quite popular over here after the tentacle oracle's decision on the semifinals.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,705324,00.html

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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:30 am

In the Netherlands everybody is suprized we won everything despite very average football (compared to qualification and friendly games.) The Dutch national team did not loose a game since september 2008, 23 games.

Everybody was pretty sure Germany would beat Spain and Brasil the Netherlands too.. Although I must say the mid field pressure and of the Spanish was pretty impressive, it seems those guys find eachother with their eyes closed, very high quality..
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:35 am

Quoting flood (Reply 35):

Spain as the big winner?

Apparently Mr Octopus also predicted that Germany would beat Uruguay.

Wait and see..........

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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:41 am

Quoting UALWN (Reply 19):
Quoting BR076 (Reply 14):
as previously shown, the octopus has a preference for Spain, he has 2 times chosen Spain as a winner , first time he was wrong and this time he was right, no doubt he will choose Spain again for the final, but he will be proven wrong and diner after that

Actually in 2008 Paul chose Germany over Spain and he was wrong., the only time he has been wrong. So, if anything, he's biased against Spain! People in Spain joke that in 2008 Paul was young and still learning his trade. Now he seems to have mastered it.

Are you sure that this is the same Paul? AFAIK their life expectancy is only about two years in the wild (they die after having mated and layed their eggs), but in captivity they become much older. But still I don´t think that even a captive octopus can reach 12 years.

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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:51 am

Quoting thomil13FRA (Reply 36):
Probably a last-ditch effort to save himself from the deep fryer. Apparently, octopus recipes are quite popular over here after the tentacle oracle's decision on the semifinals.

What's this nonsense that he's now also gonna predict matches where die Mannschaft doesn't play?

Anway, Paul is bad in predicting outcomes for the final (2008  )
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:55 am

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 39):
But still I don´t think that even a captive octopus can reach 12 years.

Only 2 years have elapsed since 2008...
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:34 pm

Quoting UALWN (Reply 41):
Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 39):
But still I don´t think that even a captive octopus can reach 12 years.

Only 2 years have elapsed since 2008...

Oops,...   

I should have read the post properly, I thought you were talking about 1998...

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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:58 pm

Yeeehh!!!

Forget Paul the Octopus, he only has some limited knowledge about the German football team, may I introduce you to Mani?

Quote:
Paul the octopus has been made famous by his perfect picking record for Germany at the World Cup.

But now he has a rival, and he's got wings.

Mani the Parakeet picked all four of the semifinalists at the World Cup. And now he's calling for Holland to win the whole thing.

Enjoy the video: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...eo/2010/07/08/VI2010070803784.html

 
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:00 pm

Quoting thomil13FRA (Reply 36):
In fact, I'm feeling a strange desire for calamari right now

Calamari is cuttlefish, though in English sometimes may refer to squid as well. Octopus has a completely different flavour and texture.
 
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:04 pm

Quoting JJJ (Reply 44):
Calamari is cuttlefish, though in English sometimes may refer to squid as well. Octopus has a completely different flavour and texture.

Oops!   

But at least I stayed in the right family, as both are cephalopods.
 
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:03 pm

Quoting UALWN (Reply 33):
Or do you think the supporters attitude wouldn't be relevant?

no it wouldn't actually. The biggest source of income is not from the local supporters. It's the world wide audiences that meakes the difference. That's why all the top world teams go to play friendly games in Asia or the USA. It's those markets that have made the difference and that have brought teams like Barca, Man U or RM to another level.

Quoting UALWN (Reply 33):
Actually, that's exactly the plan (maybe "dream" is more accurate) the top European clubs have: create a true European League as the main competition for the top clubs.

Now that would be a completely different thing. If this would ever happen, then yes, I would agree that FCB (and the rest) would maintain their status. A European League would have the efect though of destroying the rest of the teams, so I doubt it will ever be created.
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:24 pm

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 46):
A European League would have the efect though of destroying the rest of the teams, so I doubt it will ever be created.

In Spain at least, the "rest of the teams" (all except RM and Barca) have already been destroyed (example: Valencia had to sell both Villa and Silva), thanks to each team being able to negotiate separate TV contracts. So this would be nothing new.

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 46):
The biggest source of income is not from the local supporters. I

It is not, but it is still very relevant: about €115.5M this past year. But beyond the money, there's something else: the compromise, the feeling. Don't underestimate the power of the over 175000 "socis" of FC Barcelona.
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:59 pm

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 46):
Now that would be a completely different thing. If this would ever happen, then yes, I would agree that FCB (and the rest) would maintain their status. A European League would have the efect though of destroying the rest of the teams, so I doubt it will ever be created.

It might also have the effect of boosting some of the teams not presently in the five big leagues such as Ajax or Feynoord.
 
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RE: Official 2010 Fifa World Cup Thread #8

Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:33 pm

Quoting UALWN (Reply 47):
In Spain at least, the "rest of the teams" (all except RM and Barca) have already been destroyed (example: Valencia had to sell both Villa and Silva),

I disagree. Look at Sevilla for example. They were a non-player in the league and they are now the top team after the big two.

Quoting UALWN (Reply 47):
But beyond the money, there's something else: the compromise, the feeling. Don't underestimate the power of the over 175000 "socis" of FC Barcelona

I never understimate the power of the socios, but unfortunately the money that comes from Asia especially is much higher, and money, lot's of it, is needed to maintain the status of top team.

Quoting jamincan (Reply 48):
It might also have the effect of boosting some of the teams not presently in the five big leagues such as Ajax or Feynoord.

I agree, but it would also mean the end of every other dutch team. Not that they are big players in the european scenario, but they still bring young talent to the bigger teams. I honestly don't think a Euroleague would happen, at least not in the near future.
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