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Palin Willing To Give It A Shot In 2012

Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:27 pm

Palin Opens Up About Possible 2012 Run, Says She's Willing to 'Give It a Shot'

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...opens-possible-run-says-shed-shot/
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RE: Palin Willing To Give It A Shot In 2012

Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:35 pm

LOL, she has been saying this for months. She has already said she is keeping her options and would consider running. Nothing to see, move along. I would wait to she confirms one way or the other. Would save a lot of time.
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Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:56 pm

Has she given a date for quitting as well?  
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RE: Palin Willing To Give It A Shot In 2012

Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:59 pm

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 1):
LOL, she has been saying this for months.

Ahhh. Another step towards that 5¢.   
 
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RE: Palin Willing To Give It A Shot In 2012

Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:03 pm

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 3):
Ahhh. Another step towards that 5¢

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RE: Palin Willing To Give It A Shot In 2012

Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:35 pm

Where are all those who said she wouldn't do it?


This is confirmation to your inaccuracy to 'read the signs'...


A hint to sharpening those skills...'when someone starts believing their own hype..' that's when you know. She really thinks she some sort of 1st rate 'leader'/ media star.


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RE: Palin Willing To Give It A Shot In 2012

Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:46 pm

Quoting BN747 (Reply 5):
Where are all those who said she wouldn't do it?

My question as well. Where is everyone who swore time and time again that Palin wasn't running, that she was just interested in getting people out to vote. Please, it's been plainly obvious that she's been preparing for a Presidential bid for quite some time now.
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Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:39 am

Quoting BN747 (Reply 5):
This is confirmation to your inaccuracy to 'read the signs'...

This is confirmation of nothing. In fact it's good stragedy by stringing the hate media along it takes the Dems off message which helps is in Nov.

Quoting OA412 (Reply 6):
My question as well. Where is everyone who swore time and time again that Palin wasn't running, that she was just interested in getting people out to vote. Please, it's been plainly obvious that she's been preparing for a Presidential bid for quite some time now

LOL. I will keep playing so you can all keep the fantasy of a easy re-election for Obama alive and well. She has learned to play the media and they are so happy to play along but trust me she isn't running.
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RE: Palin Willing To Give It A Shot In 2012

Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:40 am

If you click 'comments' under the article, you'll see not even the FOX news readers are very supportive of her. I hope she runs, she'll really help put another democrat back in office.
 
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RE: Palin Willing To Give It A Shot In 2012

Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:45 am

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 4):
Remember VP doesn't count!

Fortunately it didn't count in 2008 either.   

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 4):
Where are all those who said she wouldn't do it?

Posting right above you.         
 
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RE: Palin Willing To Give It A Shot In 2012

Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:45 am

Quoting OA412 (Reply 6):
My question as well. Where is everyone who swore time and time again that Palin wasn't running, that she was just interested in getting people out to vote. Please, it's been plainly obvious that she's been preparing for a Presidential bid for quite some time now.

One might ask, is the world round? That is how obvious it has been. Who would ever believe the pursuit of power and history could or would be refused by some such as Sarah.
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RE: Palin Willing To Give It A Shot In 2012

Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:49 am

Quoting AKviator (Reply 8):
I hope she runs, she'll really help put another democrat back in office.

Only way he can win which is why he is going to lose.

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 9):
Fortunately it didn't count in 2008 either.

Yep and 60% of the country regrets it.

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 10):
Who would ever believe the pursuit of power and history could or would be refused by some such as Sarah.

Especially since she makes more money by not being president.
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RE: Palin Willing To Give It A Shot In 2012

Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:51 am

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 11):
Especially since she makes more money by not being president.

You seem intent of telling us that money is the driver for running for President.
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Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:53 am

Quoting mt99 (Thread starter):
Palin Opens Up About Possible 2012 Run, Says She's Willing to 'Give It a Shot'

I hope not as it would only fracture the Conservative base. She's more qualified than Obama, but that's like saying a kid with 2 piano lessons is better than a kid with none.

Quoting aloges (Reply 2):
Has she given a date for quitting as well?

   That's good.

Quoting BN747 (Reply 5):

A hint to sharpening those skills...'when someone starts believing their own hype..' that's when you know. She really thinks she some sort of 1st rate 'leader'/ media star.


Gosh that sounds an awful lot like the idiot we have in office now.

Quoting AKviator (Reply 8):
I hope she runs, she'll really help put another democrat back in office.

We'll have civil unrest if another Democrat is elected. I think Obama has ruined it for the DNC for years. He's actually been the best Republican since Reagan. Not Bush #1, Bush #2, McCain, or Palin could do for the Conservative base that Obama's done. We commend you comrade!
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RE: Palin Willing To Give It A Shot In 2012

Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:56 am

Quoting mt99 (Reply 12):
You seem intent of telling us that money is the driver for running for President.

Well what is the driving force? Please don't tell me Gore wanted to be a great leader.

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 13):
I hope not as it would only fracture the Conservative base. She's more qualified than Obama, but that's like saying a kid with 2 piano lessons is better than a kid with none

Post of the week! LOL

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 13):
We'll have civil unrest if another Democrat is elected. I think Obama has ruined it for the DNC for years. He's actually been the best Republican since Reagan. Not Bush #1, Bush #2, McCain, or Palin could do for the Conservative base that Obama's done. We commend you comrade!

Amen to that, Yea he has really ruined the left for awhile. Thankfully so.
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RE: Palin Willing To Give It A Shot In 2012

Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:09 am

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 14):
Well what is the driving force? Please don't tell me Gore wanted to be a great leader.

Why did McCain want to be President? For money?
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RE: Palin Willing To Give It A Shot In 2012

Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:13 am

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 11):
Especially since she makes more money by not being president.

Ah! but after the pursuit of money, naturally comes the pusuit of power and history for some. I fear Sarah is one of those. Pursue office, drop out, self enrich, pursue power. A natural path for her.
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Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:15 am

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 16):
Pursue office, drop out, self enrich, pursue power. A natural path for her.

Perhaps for those in the pursuit of fame and fortune, the only thing worth pursing is power. It's sad really.
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RE: Palin Willing To Give It A Shot In 2012

Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:21 am

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 11):
Especially since she makes more money by not being president.

Do you honestly believe that anyone runs for the presidency because of the money?

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 11):
Yep and 60% of the country regrets it.

Sort of like 70% regretted having your guy in power?

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 13):
We'll have civil unrest if another Democrat is elected.

No we won't.

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 13):
I think Obama has ruined it for the DNC for years.

Sure he has. Remember when people swore up and down that no Republican would ever be elected President again after Nixon?

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 13):
She's more qualified than Obama

   thanks I needed a good laugh today.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 14):
Amen to that, Yea he has really ruined the left for awhile. Thankfully so.

Aha, more evidence that you would be perfectly happy if it was the GOP, and only the GOP, that was ever in power. Look, the fact of the matter is that you know little to nothing about history if you truly believe these histrionic statements you repeatedly make.
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Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:32 am

If the Republicans put her up for President or VP again, they will lose big time despite the hatred for President Obama. She is intellectully uncurious, she is narrow minded, she is just a pretty face and a big mouth that has little for brains involved.
 
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Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:32 am

Quoting OA412 (Reply 18):
Do you honestly believe that anyone runs for the presidency because of the money?

Power which translates into money. If you don't agree please provide a reason.

Quoting OA412 (Reply 18):
Sort of like 70% regretted having your guy in power?

Yep when in doubt blame Bush. He has been gone for two years buddy. Move on.

Quoting OA412 (Reply 18):
No we won't.

He isn't getting re-elected so we won't even have to worry.
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Sat Sep 18, 2010 2:30 am

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 20):
He isn't getting re-elected so we won't even have to worry.

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Sat Sep 18, 2010 2:46 am

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 7):
Quoting BN747 (Reply 5):
This is confirmation to your inaccuracy to 'read the signs'...

This is confirmation of nothing. In fact it's good stragedy by stringing the hate media along it takes the Dems off message which helps is in Nov.

Quoting OA412 (Reply 6):
My question as well. Where is everyone who swore time and time again that Palin wasn't running, that she was just interested in getting people out to vote. Please, it's been plainly obvious that she's been preparing for a Presidential bid for quite some time now

LOL. I will keep playing so you can all keep the fantasy of a easy re-election for Obama alive and well. She has learned to play the media and they are so happy to play along but trust me she isn't running.

You think? ... you've also learned nothing from the media after all your years of watching. Lesson numero UNO... they love to build you up, talk about your followings, etc. ...and then they turn, they enjoy nothing more than kicking your foundation out from under you and watching you fall and break your caboose and crumble into a million pieces. Palin is the perfect model for this ploy. An ex so-so beauty queen who still sees herself in the limelight and can't let go.


If Palin if this dumb (and I for one really think she is) ... to walk into this ambush and not see what's coming, she'll need he god to help her.

You were one of the many who cried about how are the media was on her, well...that was child's play. The real heat is just getting toasty about now and will go full afterburners when she pulls the trigger.

2012 - Rep Ticket : Palin/and some poor unsuspecting sucker

2012 - Dem Ticket: Obama/Clinton (or some young new hot & smart chick)

The women vote will swarm towards the new (or old) smart chick, not the dumb one.

....you heard it here first.


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Sat Sep 18, 2010 2:56 am

Quoting BN747 (Reply 22):
you heard it here first.

Actually if you want to see someone with more of a chance to announce a WH run tune into Biz Block on FOX this Sat when Gov Christie talks about how his tax program and cuts to the budget could work for not only NJ but for the whole country.

You heard it here first.
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Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:04 am

Elections are not won by the Republicans and the Democrats votes, they are won by the swing voters, and Palin is too far out there to get elected. If the Republicans nominate Palin, we will looking at the 3rd 2-term Prresident in a row.

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 13):
Gosh that sounds an awful lot like the idiot we have in office now.

As an American. could you show a little respect for the President? I did not like when Americans said such things about President GW Bush, and I don't like it when they say such things about President Obama. To disagree with their politics is one thing, but to disrespect the office is another.
 
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RE: Palin Willing To Give It A Shot In 2012

Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:46 am

Quoting mt99 (Thread starter):
She's Willing to 'Give It a Shot'

She also threw out a boat load of "if's". It would only hurt her star power if she came out and said she wasn't interested.

Quoting BN747 (Reply 5):
Where are all those who said she wouldn't do it?

I'm one and I'm still saying she won't do it. She didn't say she would in that interview and she gave a whole raft of things that would have to line up for her to consider running.

Quoting BN747 (Reply 5):
This is confirmation to your inaccuracy to 'read the signs'...

??? What sign? She did not say she was running, nor did she deny she wouldn't consider it. Just about every person who is seriously or not seriously considering that option says the same thing now. Why tip your hand?

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 9):
Fortunately it didn't count in 2008 either

Correct, look at the idiot we have in that office now.

Quoting OA412 (Reply 18):
Do you honestly believe that anyone runs for the presidency because of the money?

If you believe some, the Clintons ran for that reason.

Quoting OA412 (Reply 18):
Sort of like 70% regretted having your guy in power?

Or the 52% over the 42% that said they'd rather have George Bush back in office over President Obama?

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RE: Palin Willing To Give It A Shot In 2012

Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:39 am

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 13):
She's more qualified than Obama

Um... how so? She'd never even been to Washington before she ran for VP.

Palin is not going to get the GOP nomination. They haven't forgotten how she sank McCain's campaign. She's also an absolutely miserable person, personally. High-maintenance, demanding of luxuries and special treatment, abusive to those working for and with her. She'd have to go it as the Tea Party candidate. It'll be Perot vs. Clinton vs. Bush all over again and we know how that worked out.
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Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:44 am

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 13):
She's more qualified than Obama, but that's like saying a kid with 2 piano lessons is better than a kid with none.

Obama is an intellectual, you are doing him wrong with such a remark. Obama would be, BTW by European standards classified s a liberal conservative, not the socialist the Americans say he is. At least he is capable of being POTUS, he is an accepted leader among his peers world wide. I shiver at the possibility of having Ms. Palin in office. What is she going to talk about with Mrs. Merkel? Cooking recipies? She may have a good mate in Putin, with whom she can talk about hunting, fishing and killing bears. But what does she talk to other world leaders when real business is the topic of the agenda?

Palin does not have the brains, she is not an intellectual, she's totally incabale of handling the job. Should she become President, the real problem is, who will be pulling the strings attached to her?
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RE: Palin Willing To Give It A Shot In 2012

Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:50 pm

Quoting mt99 (Reply 15):
Why did McCain want to be President? For money?

Nah. For ego. His wife has enough money,

Might also be because he discovered that some Presidents gets a little now and then from ladies happy to help. I think that guy used to hit his zipper with WD-40 in the days he was running around on his previous wife.

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 19):
She is intellectully uncurious, she is narrow minded, she is just a pretty face and a big mouth that has little for brains involved.

And she needs to run in 2012 because the face and breasts will be aging pretty fast between now and 2016.

And that gal will probably still be wearing her Made in Japan glasses in '16, thinking she is still setting the style.

And then there is that chin that looks like it came from the front of a Cord.

And, of course, O'Donnell will be wanting the job then. Assuming, of course, that she wins in November.   

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 20):
Yep when in doubt blame Bush. He has been gone for two years buddy.

He's been gone less than 2 years, but the huge problems he left us linger on and will for a few more years, regardless of who is in power.

Now if the conservatives and TPs get some real power in November it will probably take a few years longer - especially if they push through the tax cuts and spending cuts they talk about.

Unemployment will take another dive like it did in the Bush years, hitting 15% to 20%. Most people don't know it, but government jobs are actually jobs. Cut them and start paying out the benefits - long tern.

And lets not forget the business who serve these soon to be fired government employees, especially the neighborhood businesses. More failures.

And when Social Security is cut you will see a huge surge in social insecurity. That can cause huge problems of confidence in the economy.

But then I guess that Bush & Cheney simply didn't phuck the economy up enough for your TP conservatives.

Quoting dxing (Reply 25):
Correct, look at the idiot we have in that office now.

The idiot we have as a VP today at least knew enough to answer the questions ASKED in the debate. All Palin could do was flutter around some unrelated issue with a campaign speech and then wink.   

Wink? NO shit - she winked - - twice. Probably because she was told she couldn't show tits in the debate, even if it was he best chance for votes.

Quoting dxing (Reply 25):
Or the 52% over the 42% that said they'd rather have George Bush back in office over President Obama?

Why? So we could invade another country for the hell of it?

Or see what a real depression is?

That would be time to move your investments to gold. And keep a lot of it in another country.

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 27):
Obama would be, BTW by European standards classified s a liberal conservative, not the socialist the Americans say he is.

Tea Party folks are going to believe there is no such thing unless you tell them that the other party is Labor.  
 
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RE: Palin Willing To Give It A Shot In 2012

Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:59 pm

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 27):
Palin does not have the brains, she is not an intellectual, she's totally incabale of handling the job.

No, no, no.... According to the right, Obama is not an intellectual, he is an elitist. There is a difference, apparently. None that I can figure and none that the right has explained, but he is an elitist.

Quoting Mudboy (Reply 24):
As an American. could you show a little respect for the President? I did not like when Americans said such things about President GW Bush,

That would be nice, but not gonna happen. The right feels they can get away with disrespecting the president because he has a (D) behind his name. I have made the same point time and again only to be ignored. Until another right-winger is back in office, we are expected to not respect the office of the president. Nor are we expected to support the president even in war time. We are still at war, you know. Showing opposition to the president gives our enemies comfort. Remember, right-wingers? That is exactly what we were all told when anyone dared oppose the almighty GWB on any point.

Quoting BN747 (Reply 22):
2012 - Rep Ticket : Palin/and some poor unsuspecting sucker

2012 - Dem Ticket: Obama/Clinton (or some young new hot & smart chick)

Either that or Palin will huff and whine because the RNC will give the nod to someone qualified and likeable. She will siphon off votes and it will be four more years of Obama. I, personally, think Hillary or Olympia Snowe could run with Obama.
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Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:01 pm

I'd like to see her and Ron Paul debate each other for the Republican 2012 primary.
 
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Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:35 pm

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 28):

Quoting dxing (Reply 25):
Or the 52% over the 42% that said they'd rather have George Bush back in office over President Obama?

Why? So we could invade another country for the hell of it?

This is that part that makes me wonder. That people actually prefer to have GWB back in office. I mean honestly, are your minds that shallow? Have you already forgotten?
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RE: Palin Willing To Give It A Shot In 2012

Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:45 pm

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 27):
I shiver at the possibility of having Ms. Palin in office. What is she going to talk about with Mrs. Merkel? Cooking recipies? She may have a good mate in Putin, with whom she can talk about hunting, fishing and killing bears. But what does she talk to other world leaders when real business is the topic of the agenda?

It would be an embarrassment; Bush 43 was pretty much an embarrassment to everyone outside the US and he is brighter than Palin. The big problem - and one of which Palin is probably unaware - is that there are forces at work who would actually quite like Palin to be president; someone - like Bush - who is an outsider, doesn't really understand the ropes and can easily be manipulated, just like the neocons manipulated Bush; they take the decisions, but don't get the blame; they need a front person and Palin has all the attributes necessary.

And you can bet that any other potential Republican candidate will be attacked and undermined quite virulently by Fox and others, to make sure their candidate gets the nomination - and you can be sure that the right wing media will be at full tilt to support her, come the next presidential campaign.
 
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Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:31 pm

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 28):
He's been gone less than 2 years, but the huge problems he left us linger on and will for a few more years, regardless of who is in power.

Major Bravo Sierra, things have not improved because business is afraid of this guy and is doing nothing till he loses control of congress.

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 28):
He's been gone less than 2 years, but the huge problems he left us linger on and will for a few more years, regardless of who is in power.

Doubt it, in fact if he lets ALL the Bush tax cuts and the GOP gets the house back confidence will grow and you will see a big improvement in 2011.

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 28):
Unemployment will take another dive like it did in the Bush years, hitting 15% to 20%. Most people don't know it, but government jobs are actually jobs. Cut them and start paying out the benefits - long tern.

Only if he further defies the people and lets the upper tier cuts expire and continues this heavy handed government stuff that will erode conifidence more.

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 28):
And when Social Security is cut you will see a huge surge in social insecurity. That can cause huge problems of confidence in the economy

Yea too bad it probably won't be cut. This is a campaign sign and bumper sticker not reality.

Quoting seb146 (Reply 29):
According to the right, Obama is not an intellectual, he is an elitist. There is a difference, apparently. None that I can figure and none that the right has explained, but he is an elitist.

He is an ivy league laywer who thinks he is smarter than everyone. Actually he hides it a lot better than his wife does but still will catch up to him next two elections.


Since this topic has been hijacked once again by the Bush haters I will say it again. She isn't running. She knows her stringing along of the haters at MSNBC take the Dems off message and it has really helped in the polls. Which is where she is most useful.
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RE: Palin Willing To Give It A Shot In 2012

Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:15 pm

Quoting OA412 (Reply 18):
Do you honestly believe that anyone runs for the presidency because of the money?

Actually the do, but not in the manner in which you and most think. The paltry amount the Prez makes is nothing. But the yield from the appointments, positions assigned to 1000s - who then go on to step into the private sector translates into unprecedented access toward investments and advanced heads-up on things to come that can make one (and or his immediate/extended family) uber millionaires in no time flat. It becomes a situation of name your 'wishes and desires'..in exchanged for what you've made possible for them by your appointments and political wheeling and dealing. All presidents partook, least eager were probably guys like Truman and Eisenhower. Those who probably cashed in to the max...Roosevelt, Nixon, LBJ, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton and Bush 2.

Quoting Mudboy (Reply 24):
Elections are not won by the Republicans and the Democrats votes, they are won by the swing voters, and Palin is too far out there to get elected. If the Republicans nominate Palin, we will looking at the 3rd 2-term Prresident in a row.


Quoting EA772LR (Reply 13):
Gosh that sounds an awful lot like the idiot we have in office now.

As an American. could you show a little respect for the President?
Quoting dxing (Reply 25):
Correct, look at the idiot we have in that office now.

Cut them some slack, you know 'the-frothing-at-the-mouth' Obama haters are doing all they can to keep from biting their tongues completely off because they can't call him (here anyway) what they really wanna call him (wink wink..and you know what that is) so they have to resort to more 'generic characterizations of dislike). Idiot, Kenyan, Muslim, communist, etc...

1) They can't hate him for Iraq. (because they loved Bush for Iraq - as wrong as it was/is)

2) They can't hate him for Afghanistan (because they loved Bush for Afghanistan - as pointless as that is)

3) They can't hate him anything on the economy because, none of them can name a single thing George Bush did FOR the economy as it started to go down the toilet, or to prevent it for that matter.

So they have to invoke the ol' "I hate him because of his polices"..and we all know what that translates into.

So let him/them have 'idiot' .. everyone (haters included) know they could not hold a candle next to the man intellectually or on the basketball court and they know who is closer to 'being an idiot' if such real life match up ever materialized.

Quoting dxing (Reply 25):

Or the 52% over the 42% that said they'd rather have George Bush back in office over President Obama?

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/08/previewing-ohio.html

Oh???? So the country should have continued down the road Bush was leading it huh...

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 28):
But then I guess that Bush & Cheney simply didn't phuck the economy up enough for your TP conservatives.

Apparently, 52% of the country (a number of those present as well) feel that country has had enough of an economic pounding..it needs to be beaten mercilessly into the ground as Bush/Cheney was taking it for them to realize.."ummm y'know, thsi is not working so well."

43.6 Million Americans (out of 300 mil) living in poverty is not enough for them, a number more along the lines of say 100 million Americans living in poverty is what it will take for this crowd to believe that things are not so good. Heck, and even they may not be entirely convinced.

Quoting captaink (Reply 31):
This is that part that makes me wonder. That people actually prefer to have GWB back in office. I mean honestly, are your minds that shallow? Have you already forgotten?

Yes, they have indeed. Short Attention-Span disorder or SAS .. is rampant in this nation, it's like Bush was never here to them. Or he was and he did everything that was right and good..thus the 52%...if only there was a way to bring Bush/Cheney back..just for that 52% to live' with -- BUT forever! .... Boy, talk about a dream come true.

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Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:31 pm

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 33):
Major Bravo Sierra, things have not improved because business is afraid of this guy and is doing nothing till he loses control of congress.

I am glad to see that you admit that the congress, under Republican control will be owned lock stock and barrel by business interests. It is bad enough now, but it will be worse as you have acknowledged. I thank you for your candor.
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Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:32 pm

Quoting BN747 (Reply 34):
Short Attention-Span disorder or SAS .. is rampant in this nation

Amen to that... it's like a scene from an animated movie. People are quick to ignore half of what the "enemy" says and equally quick to assume what they've said instead - leading to downright bizarre results.
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Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:43 pm

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 13):
We'll have civil unrest if another Democrat is elected.

Glenn Beck? Is that you? What makes you say this?

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 33):
He is an ivy league laywer who thinks he is smarter than everyone

Why shouldn't he?
 
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Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:49 pm

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 35):
under Republican control will be owned lock stock and barrel by business interests. It is bad enough now, but it will be worse as you have acknowledged. I thank you for your candor.

No it won't. that is a talking point the left propagates to get you to hate people that are successful. As far as the congress goes we will get a chance to see how things go with a different approach than what we have tried the last four years.

Quoting AKviator (Reply 37):
Why shouldn't he

Well he hasn't been doing such a good job up to this point has he? Then again we have a phrase for lawyers. "Educated idiots" Rings pretty true so far.
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Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:09 pm

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 38):
that is a talking point the left propagates to get you to hate people that are successful.

And the following is what?

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 33):
things have not improved because business is afraid of this guy and is doing nothing till he loses control of congress.

Might it be a talking point to get you to hate the current President?   
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Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:36 pm

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 13):
I hope not as it would only fracture the Conservative base. She's more qualified than Obama, but that's like saying a kid with 2 piano lessons is better than a kid with none.

She isn't qualified to run a night shift at a Burger King. Her record is full of missed opportunities and half assed work. Obama is a constitutional lawyer, he served as a state senator and in the US Senate. He sure isn't the most qualified, but there is no comparison.

Otherwise, I look forward to her being thoroughly trounced in a debate with Obama.

Quoting seb146 (Reply 29):
No, no, no.... According to the right, Obama is not an intellectual, he is an elitist. There is a difference, apparently. None that I can figure and none that the right has explained, but he is an elitist.

The right in this country likes to slight intellectuals. It makes sense, because these are the same people who consider Newt Gingrich to be an intellectual, while also considering science and academia to be two of the "four corners of deceit."

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 33):
Since this topic has been hijacked once again by the Bush haters I will say it again. She isn't running. She knows her stringing along of the haters at MSNBC take the Dems off message and it has really helped in the polls. Which is where she is most useful.

Good use of a ridiculously old talking point to try to change the topic at hand.
 
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Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:45 pm

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 11):
Especially since she makes more money by not being president.

*ding, ding - we have a winner. She's making far too much tooling around the country on speaking gigs and doing TV. Plus she doesn't have to face down critics with opposing views in her current gigs. She'd be a bigger idiot than a lot of people already say she is if she gives that up.



Quoting AKviator (Reply 8):
I hope she runs, she'll really help put another democrat back in office.

Nope - she'd go down on flames in the primaries. Remember Guliani? Mr. Hero of 9/11 who figured he'd just show up on the ballot and win the Republican nomination in '08. How'd that work out for him? The Republicans are far smarter than that. They will not put up a weak candidate that's beatable by Obama in 2012. They won't make the same mistake the Dems made in 2004 with Kerry. I'd be very surprised by an Obama win in 2012

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 13):
he's more qualified than Obama,

errr - no

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 13):
osh that sounds an awful lot like the idiot we have in office now.

So which is it? Is he an idiot, or is he the evil genius who used a clever ruse to get into office to enact his communist, socialist Muslim agenda?  
 
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RE: Palin Willing To Give It A Shot In 2012

Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:00 am

Quoting elmothehobo (Reply 40):
She isn't qualified to run a night shift at a Burger King. Her record is full of missed opportunities and half assed work. Obama is a constitutional lawyer, he served as a state senator and in the US Senate. He sure isn't the most qualified, but there is no comparison

Huh? She was doing a decent job of running Alaska till she quit. Just because you didn't go to Harvard doesn't mean you missed your ops.

Quoting elmothehobo (Reply 40):
Otherwise, I look forward to her being thoroughly trounced in a debate with Obama.

That's great seeing it will be more likely Christie or Brown doing the trouncing and not her.

Quoting elmothehobo (Reply 40):
The right in this country likes to slight intellectuals. It makes sense, because these are the same people who consider Newt Gingrich to be an intellectual, while also considering science and academia to be two of the "four corners of deceit

Not really. I am not far right and I don't really consider Newt an intellectual. Then again intellectual is just another word for book smarts. We hired someone to run the country with book smarts and it didn't work out too well.

Quoting elmothehobo (Reply 40):
Good use of a ridiculously old talking point to try to change the topic at hand.

Well judging how a topic about Palin running has mophed once again to how Bush left us a mess yea it's pretty accurate.

Quoting ER757 (Reply 41):
Remember Guliani? Mr. Hero of 9/11 who figured he'd just show up on the ballot and win the Republican nomination in '08. How'd that work out for him? The Republicans are far smarter than that. They will not put up a weak candidate that's beatable by Obama in 2012. They won't make the same mistake the Dems made in 2004 with Kerry. I'd be very surprised by an Obama win in 2012

Not sure you can compare this to Rudy. He very well could have been in the WH right now and in fact if he played his cards right could beat Obama in two years. He just ran a horrid campaign. That is why he lost. Besides Brazil is paying him a fortune so.
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Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:01 am

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 38):
No it won't. that is a talking point the left propagates to get you to hate people that are successful. As far as the congress goes we will get a chance to see how things go with a different approach than what we have tried the last four years

I at least had the courage to admit that congress is corrupt even under the Democats, of course that is not possible from the right side, especially when the Republicans rule. Ah yes! we need another Contract with America, we saw how well that worked out. Now that was a different approach. I remember good old Newt, now there is a diplomat. I seem to remember scandal touching Newt also. (Women was it? It does not seem to be only the Democrats who get into the soup.
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RE: Palin Willing To Give It A Shot In 2012

Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:13 am

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 28):
The idiot we have as a VP today at least knew enough to answer the questions ASKED in the debate. .

He spent a lot of time defending the poor votes his boss made in the short time he was Senator.

[quote=BN747,reply=34]Cut them some slack.
Why? They've been in office for almost 2 years now and at every opportunity they still blame the previous administration for everything can althogh they've had plenty of time to start turning things around.

Quoting BN747 (Reply 34):
George Bush did FOR the economy as it started to go down the toilet, or to prevent it for that matter.

Bailing out the banks was the worst thing he could have done. There were plenty of healthy financial institutions that could have picked up the assets in bankruptcy court and saved us a trillion dollars.

As to Palin running...she said it best.....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ty-amid-2012-White-House-buzz.html

Mrs Palin's appearance in the state where caucuses launch the presidential nominating season drew intense speculation about her 2012 intentions - scrutiny to which she jokingly referred.

If she laced up her running shoes, she said, the headlines would read: "Palin in Iowa, decides to run."
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Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 20):
Power which translates into money. If you don't agree please provide a reason.

Why did Bush and McCain ran? They just wanted more money?
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