|Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):|
Gov. Schwartzenegger signed SB 1449 which takes immediate effect. As of today, possession of one ounce of marijuana in California is a mere infraction, the same as a parking or speeding ticket.
I thought it was already essentially decriminallized in California? The last time I was out there, last year in Palm Springs, I asked a bouncer if I had to worry about getting arrested if I openly smoked on the street out front. He said no. As long as I had under an ounce, or some simliar amount, it was simply a summons and a fine. And personally, he said he didn't care and wouldn't call the cops or kick me out. Therefore, I just smoked openly that week when I was out at night. I'd just go out on the sidewalk. I tried to make sure there weren't strangers standing right next to me or walking by, but I wasn't all that concerened about hiding it, or being paranoid, either.
Then on the way back to the east coast, at LAX
, I went and enjoyed a huge spliff on top of the parking garage before getting on the plane. I'm sure there must have been security cameras around? But I didn't have any problems. Figured if I got caught, within six hours, I'd be on the other side of the country, anyway? I'd just pay the fine by mail.
I live in Maine. And it's essentially been decriminalized here as well for about 15 years. You've always been able to posses up to 1.25 Oz. without possibility of arrest or being charged with a crime. They simply summons you, and you pay a fine. (Use to be $200, but was moved up to $350 last year) and you're charged with a civil infraction, and there's no criminal charge on your record. Then, last year they bumped up the amount you can possess without fear of arrest or criminal charges to a whooping 2.25 Oz! One of the only things I like about living in the hell that is Maine!
I just got pulled over for speeding last week, and the cop saw a couple grams in my car. He simply took it, and didn't even give me the ticket!
We've also got medical marijuana, but unlike Cali, you actually have to have a terminal illness to get it here. There also has been no legal way to obtain it, but we voted in California style dispensaries last year, and they are due to open next year.
|Quoting DocLightning (Thread starter):|
hroughout history, precisely zero government attempts to ban a recreational substance have successfully eliminated use of said substance and 100% of such bans have led to the formation of a black market, typically with violent undercurrents. Through history, examples of banned substances range from opium (once legally available in the US and UK) to chocolate.
It surprises some people, but I'm pretty anti-drug. There's nothing good that comes from them. I've never done anything other than weed, and I smoked it regularly for ten years without ever thinking about trying harder stuff. Then I stopped being a regular user with no withdrawal or other effects. Kind of blows the gateway drug theory out of the water? I just don't consider marijuana a drug. No more than caffeine, nicotine, or Tylenol. As much as I'm for legalization of marijuana, I can't support general legalization of all illicit drugs and narcotics. Just don't see any good in legalizing stuff that actually destroys lives and kills people.
I was living in Berlin, Germany for two years, and I've been regularly going over there for ten. While not technically legal there, as long as you have under 10 grams, it's a non issue. In the majority of bars and clubs you can just roll a joint and smoke. It's no problem. The worst that happens, and it's rare, is they'll ask you to go outside with it. It's not like this is South Germany, but North Germany it's a non issue. Heck, you can pretty much walk past the cops with a joint and they usually won't do anything.
|Quoting AKviator (Reply 2):|
I see few problems with legalizing marijuana. Its affects are no worse than alcohol, and I believe there are little to no health consequences (correct me if i'm wrong Doc).
It's absurd to think that smoking it doesn't cause any health problems akin to smoking tobacco. Just the shear amount of tar going into your lungs is kind of a no brainer that it's not healthy. However, you don't have to smoke. You can use vaporizers, or consume orally when it's cooked into fat based solubles (butter) and then used to make treats,
|Quoting YYZflyer (Reply 8):|
If it was legal/decriminalized in the entire country wouldn't you be able to? Or would the military still not allow it?
I doubt it. You give up your rights and civilian laws when you enter the military. They own you. Not the other way around. However, I've always wondered in places where it's legal, like the Netherlands, are commercial pilots prohibited from consuming cannabis then? Like, can pilots of KLM smoke weed when their off shift, just like pilots can drink alcohol when they're not working?
I'm still undecided about using if you fly. I haven't flown in ten years, but would be hesitant to fly had I smoked weed in the last several weeks. Can't say it permanently harms a user, but I can attest that it can slow you down and make you kind of sluggish, and forgetful if you've used it to any extent recently. At least if you're a regular user. The symptoms kind of clear up, though, after you've stopped for a week or two.
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