OYRJA
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Moving To Gurgaon, India

Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:57 pm

Hey everybody.

I have some questions that I hope some of you can help me with.
I have gotten a job offer in Gurgaon in India. I have read some about the area. But I hope that you guys can tell me more about it. I haven't signed the contract yet. So I wanted to know more about Gurgaon before signing it.

What is there to do there? And what about income taxes and so on? Are they high?

I look forward to read your answers.

Thanks in advance

Thomas
 
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RE: Moving To Gurgaon, India

Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:18 pm

I've been to Gurgaon for just a night (at the Hilton, which I gather is no longer a Hilton). Although I only spent a few hours there, my family and I visited old family friends who moved to Gurgaon from Boston about a year ago. Needless to say, I was very impressed by the city. It was very modern and the quality of life seemed fairly high.

If one has money, which I assume you would as a Western ex-pat, then life in Gurgaon seems to be just as life in the United States or Western Europe.
 
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RE: Moving To Gurgaon, India

Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:56 pm

Will you be working for American Express?
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RE: Moving To Gurgaon, India

Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:25 pm

Thomas - this is a move that is fraught with dangers and risks but might turn out to be one of the best or worst things you ever did. India is quite a stark contrast to Europe, so first question first - have you ever visited India or wanted to? What drives you to take up this job in India?

Quoting FURUREFA (Reply 1):

If one has money, which I assume you would as a Western ex-pat, then life in Gurgaon seems to be just as life in the United States or Western Europe.

No - not at all. Life in Gurgaon (or most of India) is never the same as in the western world - money or not.
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RE: Moving To Gurgaon, India

Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:48 pm

Do you work in the IT field? At my last employer we had all sorts of work done in Gurgaon, both in-house and subcontracted to various companies. We had software developers and support staff in-house. We also had hundreds of people who data-entered and processed health insurance claims.

Although I've never been to Gurgaon I'd like to hear about your opportunity there! As an American I've put thought into trying out India for jobs. I think there is value in being a liaison between the two business cultures.
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RE: Moving To Gurgaon, India

Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:48 am

Quoting TWFirst (Reply 2):
Will you be working for American Express?

No I will be working for another business travel agency, For a danish travel agency.

Quoting Nimish (Reply 3):
Thomas - this is a move that is fraught with dangers and risks but might turn out to be one of the best or worst things you ever did. India is quite a stark contrast to Europe, so first question first - have you ever visited India or wanted to? What drives you to take up this job in India?

What do you mean by dangers? Isn't it dangerous wherever a person might be?
No I have never been to India. But I have always wanted to go there. So when I got this opportunity I couldn't turn it down. I applied for the job to try something new in life. This was once in a lifetime chance fo try.
 
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RE: Moving To Gurgaon, India

Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:05 am

Be aware, there's no clogs in India  
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RE: Moving To Gurgaon, India

Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:17 am

Quoting gkirk (Reply 6):
Be aware, there's no clogs in India

There are plenty of sheep though..     
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RE: Moving To Gurgaon, India

Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:06 pm

Quoting OYRJA (Reply 5):
Quoting Nimish (Reply 3):
Thomas - this is a move that is fraught with dangers and risks but might turn out to be one of the best or worst things you ever did. India is quite a stark contrast to Europe, so first question first - have you ever visited India or wanted to? What drives you to take up this job in India?

Nimish is quite right, but you seem to have a sense of adventure so I think it will work out well. The biggest danger is when your gut gets invaded by Indian microorganisms, but once you're past that, you will be able to eat anything!

The only real factor here is if you suffer from Asthma or respiratory problems, you may have a serious issue. Delhi is one of the most polluted cities in the world, but it is improving rapidly with mandated use of CNG in buses and 3- wheelers.

As Nimish says, you could have a great time there, and I would urge you to go. India: either you'll love it or it will drive you crazy!  
 
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RE: Moving To Gurgaon, India

Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:54 pm

Quoting comorin (Reply 8):
Nimish is quite right, but you seem to have a sense of adventure so I think it will work out well. The biggest danger is when your gut gets invaded by Indian microorganisms, but once you're past that, you will be able to eat anything!

The only real factor here is if you suffer from Asthma or respiratory problems, you may have a serious issue. Delhi is one of the most polluted cities in the world, but it is improving rapidly with mandated use of CNG in buses and 3- wheelers.

As Nimish says, you could have a great time there, and I would urge you to go. India: either you'll love it or it will drive you crazy!

I have some problems with asthma. But it's not too bad luckily. So I will probably be able to manage it.
Indian microorganism can easily be killed. I have a pretty tough stomache that can handle it  
 
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RE: Moving To Gurgaon, India

Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:14 pm

And what about cost of living in India. I know its cheap.. But is it like Thailand or more expensive?
 
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RE: Moving To Gurgaon, India

Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:30 pm

Quoting OYRJA (Reply 9):
I have a pretty tough stomache that can handle it

I thought that as well, and Im an Indian who goes back to India every year, be careful on that aspect. My last trip I went all out enjoyment, and trust me, I only got better after flying out of Delhi (was sick the third day I landed, stayed there for 4 weeks and left), which makes me believe that the water being used to cook my food got my stomach upset, so if you were to go to India, just be weary of the street food in particular. Hotels not a problem as foriegners go there, but street food is slightly more to be concerned
 
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RE: Moving To Gurgaon, India

Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:37 pm

Living in Delhi as an expat is not cheap. Housing is the biggest cost, as are all the other facets of living a Western life in India. Big rip-off is hotel room costs for non-Indians. This is why perks are a big deal for expats, especially living costs.
 
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RE: Moving To Gurgaon, India

Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:54 pm

Quoting comorin (Reply 12):
Living in Delhi as an expat is not cheap. Housing is the biggest cost, as are all the other facets of living a Western life in India. Big rip-off is hotel room costs for non-Indians. This is why perks are a big deal for expats, especially living costs.

Fortunatly I dont have to pay for the appartment myself. The company will pay for my appartment together with insurances and so on. I was thinking about food and so on. If that is expensive.
 
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RE: Moving To Gurgaon, India

Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:35 am

Quoting OYRJA (Reply 13):
I was thinking about food and so on. If that is expensive.

No, other costs are less than the West, but drinks are expensive at Hotels.
 
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RE: Moving To Gurgaon, India

Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:46 am

Please ensure that your employer provides you with a car. Public transport is non-existent in Gurgaon. Another thing I hate about Gurgaon are the frequent and long power cuts but I suppose the apartment provided by your employer will have a proper power back up.

Food will be cheaper compared to the west but if you are looking for imported (western) food stuff, they are quite costly and off course imported booze is also costly.
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RE: Moving To Gurgaon, India

Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:10 am

Quoting himmat01 (Reply 15):
Please ensure that your employer provides you with a car. Public transport is non-existent in Gurgaon. Another thing I hate about Gurgaon are the frequent and long power cuts but I suppose the apartment provided by your employer will have a proper power back up.

I will get a car with a chauffeur thankfully. But aren't here any public transportation at all? I was reading something about a metro in Gurgaon.
 
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RE: Moving To Gurgaon, India

Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:12 am

There is a metro line connecting a few stations in Gurgaon with Delhi. Gurgaon does not have any metro of it's own yet.
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RE: Moving To Gurgaon, India

Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:29 am

Quoting OYRJA (Reply 10):
And what about cost of living in India. I know its cheap.. But is it like Thailand or more expensive?

It's very cheap if you live "on the edge" - where you can get street side food for INR 20 (like a rajma chawal - rice with bean curry), or go to a good restaurant and eat a meal for INR 2000. In reality - costs add up, as you end up paying a lot to cover for the "deficiencies" in public facilities. Probably more expensive than Thailand.

Quoting OYRJA (Reply 16):
I will get a car with a chauffeur thankfully. But aren't here any public transportation at all? I was reading something about a metro in Gurgaon.

The metro is Gurgaon is good if you want to get to Delhi, otherwise totally useless.

The one thing I really dislike about Delhi/ Gurgaon (basically most of north India) is the oppressive heat during summers - can barely move if you're out in the sun for more than a few minutes at a time - and the dreaded summer wind called the "loo" - which can suck all the water out of you in a jiffy.

I'm glad you've chosen to go down this path - but just be warned that Delhi/ Gurgaon is not for someone without a strong sense of resolve and infinite patience.
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RE: Moving To Gurgaon, India

Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:48 am

Quoting Nimish (Reply 18):
but just be warned that Delhi/ Gurgaon is not for someone without a strong sense of resolve and infinite patience.

a.k.a. "Indians"  

I agree - I grew up with the 'loo' and there is nothing like it.
 
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RE: Moving To Gurgaon, India

Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:26 pm

Tell us about your planned decision in due course.
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RE: Moving To Gurgaon, India

Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:18 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 20):
Tell us about your planned decision in due course.

I have signed the contract now and will start on the 4th of janury. I cant wait to go to India.

Thanks you guys for your inputs  
 
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RE: Moving To Gurgaon, India

Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:18 am

Quoting OYRJA (Reply 21):

I have signed the contract now and will start on the 4th of janury. I cant wait to go to India.

Thanks you guys for your inputs

Excellent move! And coming in January is a great way to see the city/ country is it's best weather. Of course the winter's handled very differently in Delhi - with no central heating, (typically) no running hot water etc. But the joys of tea and peanuts in the weak morning/ afternoon sun are unmatched  
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RE: Moving To Gurgaon, India

Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:42 pm

Quoting Nimish (Reply 22):
But the joys of tea and peanuts in the weak morning/ afternoon sun are unmatched

Stop it - you're making me homesick!   I miss the guavas, Kulu apples and grapes from Afghanistan. Not to mention the smell of frying tikias and chole. Nothing like hanging around Lodi Gardens or catching the roses and chrysanthemums at Mughal Gardens. Is it all still there?
 
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RE: Moving To Gurgaon, India

Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:29 pm

Quoting comorin (Reply 23):
Nothing like hanging around Lodi Gardens or catching the roses and chrysanthemums at Mughal Gardens. Is it all still there?

I've moved out to DEL myself about 20 years ago, but parents/ in-laws are still there, so visit once in a while. I think DEL still has everything - Lodi gardens, tikkis, chole etc...
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