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Nypd Cover Up

Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:15 pm

http://www.villagevoice.com/2010-10-13/news/nypd-cover-up-cabbie/

There isn't much more to say to this... unbelievable, coming from the NYPD, the so-called "finest police department in the world". As a frequent visitor and driver to New York City, this is extremely disturbing.
 
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RE: Nypd Cover Up

Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:25 pm

I've always felt that the NYPD would benefit if a outsider who wasn't an ex cop would become its chief. I't be a good way to bring a new perspective on things and be objective and neutral without feeling sympathies to any side.
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RE: Nypd Cover Up

Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:30 pm

Quoting alberchico (Reply 1):

Yet it will probably never happen, because an outsider would not have the "experience" needed to run the department. The culture of a cop looking out for a cop needs to change, what happened to the mission of the police? To protect and serve. Not a whole lot of that going on.
 
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RE: Nypd Cover Up

Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:40 pm

To all the current and former LEOs on this board - this is why people don't trust cops. Protest all you want that it's only a small minority of officers who abuse their powers, but the moment you let that whole "blue code of silence" thing keep you from turning in your fellow officers for their misdeeds, you're responsible for their abuse of power as well.
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RE: Nypd Cover Up

Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:45 pm

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 10):
"blue code of silence"

Completely ridiculous. Especially when if you break it, your career is in jeopardy, you get hand cuffed and treated like a criminal? To me, this is basically the "No Snitching" rule that gangs have...
 
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RE: Nypd Cover Up

Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:02 am

The basic problem that the Village Voice articles discussed (I have read the whole series) is that with the use of very detailed crime stats and the fear of crime rates going up which could lead to senior and managerial NYPD members losing promotions, getting shipped off to a worse precinct and pissing off their top leaders and politicians. To make the numbers look better, there were active behaviors to downgrade crimes from felonies to lessor ones, targeting cops to go to known hot spots for crime, arresting sometimes people that were innocent and so on.. In some cases, these downgrades led to for example a serial rapist to keep going for many months.
Some cops were so unhappy that they had to pull back from really being police to go after criminals they recorded shift roll calls, other conversations with superiors, complained to senior police officials. In some cases, these whistle blowers have faced criminal charges, being forced into a psychiatric hospital, and losing retirement benefits.
Hopefully this will come out and heads will roll, bad officers jailed and the whistle blowers given substantial payments for their brave work.
 
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RE: Nypd Cover Up

Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:49 am

All,

A number of posts were removed from this thread as a result of being in violation of the forum rules. Please can we try to keep this thread on topic. This thread is concerning NYPD and it does not concern any other police department.

Thank you for your understanding!  Smile

RichM

[Edited 2010-10-18 18:29:56]
 
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RE: Nypd Cover Up

Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:26 am

I am of the opinion, that when you deal with the scum of the earth too many times, some of that rubs off on you. It is corrupting, you develope a them and us mentality. I am also of the opinion, that you cannot tar all because of a few. I guess you can go sign up for police school and start changing the system. Good Luck with that. Everyone bad mouths the Police, until they need them, a quirk of human nature. New York is no different than any other large US City.
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RE: Nypd Cover Up

Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:21 am

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 7):
I am also of the opinion, that you cannot tar all because of a few.

The problem is that it's not just a few. Sure, it's only a few that commit the crimes, but it's the large (even vast) majority that will cover up the crimes committed by their fellow cops.

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 7):
It is corrupting, you develope a them and us mentality.

"Them vs. us" is understandable when it's them criminals vs. us LEOs, but when "them" becomes "anyone who isn't a police officer," that's a big problem.
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