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Disney Dream Leaves Shipyard

Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:36 pm

While I am not really interested in cruise ships, I know some people here are, so here you go:

The 4,000-passenger, 128,000-ton, 1,115 feet (340 m) Disney Dream was floated out from its construction shed at the Meyer Werft shipyard - the largest ship Meyer Werft ever built.

http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-61104.html

Looks like a camel going through the eye of a needle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-ogWaetjCk
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RE: Disney Dream Leaves Shipyard

Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:50 pm

Wow! That thing is huge! Disney never fail to impress. We think the A380 is big....  

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RE: Disney Dream Leaves Shipyard

Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:11 am

Quoting NoUFO (Thread starter):
Looks like a camel going through the eye of a needle:

Incredible. Thanks for posting. I have always loved the look of the Disney ships - beautiful.

Hard to believe that Meyer Werft are going to build 2 even larger ships, for Norwegian Cruise Line. 143,500 tons each, they'll be the largest cruise ships ever to be built in Germany. Getting them out to sea is going to be a challenge!


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RE: Disney Dream Leaves Shipyard

Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:26 am

Quoting NoUFO (Thread starter):
While I am not really interested in cruise ships, I know some people here are, so here you go:

Im still a huge fan even though I work in a totally different industry now, there is nothing like stepping onboard a cruise ship and sailing away . Thanks for sharing , I know a few of my former colleagues who love Disney , have not tried them myself but probably will sometime.
 
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RE: Disney Dream Leaves Shipyard

Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:41 am

In the same vein, Allure of the Seas undertook the same venture that Oasis of the Seas did last year, squeezing under the Great Belt Bridge.

http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-61099.html

and video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmO_kNjzKA0

I wonder if the bridge authorities remembered to but some better measuring equipment this time around, because when the Oasis did it, their measuring equipment said the clearance would be exactly 0 
 
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RE: Disney Dream Leaves Shipyard

Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:53 am

I do not like either of these two ships - neither the Disney, even less the new Monster of the Seas.

While we are at it... the new Cunard Queen, Queen Elizabeth, was here in Monaco this Saturday 30/10/2010.

I was at harbour when she arrived. She is quite identical to her sister Qeen Victoria from the outside. Yet she is much more luxurious inside and comes as a superior category as QV from reliable sources.

Here are a few pictures of the new QE when she arrived in the early morning. Docking took time. The pier at Port Hercule is a rather tight and uneasy one with many large yachts within reach - not talking about some really bad weather all weekend which did not help at all.



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I was there waiting for cruising friends and... they got me the surprise of the day - a privately chartered afternoon helicopter flight with the two QE photographers. Five of us total - the QE Dream Team!
I will have to do a trip report of the helicopter flight.

All the passengers coming out of the ship looked happy and smilingful. Monaco was a maiden port for the new Cunarder.

.Cunard does it best!

  
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RE: Disney Dream Leaves Shipyard

Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:23 pm

Cut two or three decks off those ships and they´ll look decently fine. The new Disney cruisers might be looking better (due to copying the Cunard colourscheme) than most cruiseships today, but they are overly bulky, too. As for the Allure of the Seas, I dont like its name and I dont like its looks. A tourist factory, nothing else.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 5):
While we are at it... the new Cunard Queen, Queen Elizabeth, was here in Monaco this Saturday 30/10/2010.

Thanks for posting. Indeed QE is almost identical to QV from the outside, the small differences though make the new ship look a bit better than her sister. Still she is just another Vista-class-ship, a design 10 years old. I wished the designers would show as much talent with ships exteriors than they do at the inside.

Quoting bananaboy (Reply 2):
Hard to believe that Meyer Werft are going to build 2 even larger ships, for Norwegian Cruise Line.

I´ve seen the concept. Nothing new, just the old, white, middle-of-the-road cruiser, only bigger. Same size as QM2 btw.

Nice for Mayer though who are really the marvel of German shipbuilding. Hard to believe that those ships are built in an inland village, or small town that is. I´ve been there once, its an inbelievable location for such a company.
 
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RE: Disney Dream Leaves Shipyard

Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:27 pm

Forget the ship, I'm more impressed by the size of the building they were able to put it in!

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RE: Disney Dream Leaves Shipyard

Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:39 pm

Quoting WestJetYQQ (Reply 7):
Forget the ship, I'm more impressed by the size of the building they were able to put it in!

I second that!
 
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RE: Disney Dream Leaves Shipyard

Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:19 pm

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 5):
I do not like either of these two ships - neither the Disney, even less the new Monster of the Seas.

I'm surprised as the Disney ships are very classical looking, I thought they would have appealed to someone who likes the QEII.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 5):
She is quite identical to her sister Qeen Victoria from the outside. Yet she is much more luxurious inside and comes as a superior category as QV from reliable sources.

Take another look, the sterns on both ships are completely different, the Elizabeth is more built out just like Holland Americans Nieuw Amsterdam, the Victoria is tiered, more like P&O's Arcadia (originally laid down as Cunard Victoria).

Quoting WestJetYQQ (Reply 7):
Forget the ship, I'm more impressed by the size of the building they were able to put it in!

Also interesting is that nobody else builds cruise ships in covered building docks.
 
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RE: Disney Dream Leaves Shipyard

Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:42 pm

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 9):
Take another look, the sterns on both ships are completely different

This is true. Looking at my pictures of the two ships. Both are coming from the same shipyard, the Fincantieri at Monfalcone.

QV was here one week before the new QE. She is a frequent visitor to Monaco - 3 times a year at least!

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/CDG1/forums/P1110719-1.jpg

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RE: Disney Dream Leaves Shipyard

Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:09 pm

Quoting na (Reply 6):
I´ve seen the concept. Nothing new, just the old, white, middle-of-the-road cruiser, only bigger.

Hard to say that given that no details of the new builds have been announced yet. Looking at the photos, I think it is a fair bet that there will be external features announced later that have not been added to these early artist renderings.

I like the NCL look - much cheerier to me than the heavy, opressive, black and red of Cunard or the dull-as-dishwater blue & white of Holland America Line.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 5):
I do not like either of these two ships - neither the Disney, even less the new Monster of the Seas.

Each to their own. Still, given the choice, I'd much rather spend time aboard Allure/Oasis of the Seas than any Cunard ship. As someone posted earlier, it's their elitist atmosphere and traditional set up that turns me off completely.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 3):
I know a few of my former colleagues who love Disney , have not tried them myself but probably will sometime.

I've sailed on the Disney Magic and it was a great cruise. Plenty of child-free zones which were great, good food and memorable entertainment as you'd expect. Not sure I'd rush back on board, particularly at the prices they want to charge, but I'm glad I've tried it.


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RE: Disney Dream Leaves Shipyard

Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:00 am

Quoting bananaboy (Reply 11):
Each to their own. Still, given the choice, I'd much rather spend time aboard Allure/Oasis of the Seas than any Cunard ship. As someone posted earlier, it's their elitist atmosphere and traditional set up that turns me off completely.

Each to their own indeed. Exactly this is why I prefer Cunard over any other line, though "elitist" isnt the right word for Cunarders, at least not in the sense normally attributed to it - wealth. I´m not an elitist at all, I have rich friends who dont have to work anymore and I have poor friends living from welfare, and I dont prefer anyone because of money. But I like an "experience" in holiday. To dress elegant and meet people you can discuss on a certain intellectual level in a classical atmosphere is an experience, and almost only possible on a Cunarder. The atmosphere on a Cunarder is great, almost unique. Britishness at its best. I wouldnt like a cruiseship, were you can get your lunch from a buffet, dressed in swimshorts. I wouldnt like a swimming holiday park with all the rattle and noise and fat naked bellies.

Quoting bananaboy (Reply 11):
I like the NCL look - much cheerier to me than the heavy, opressive, black and red of Cunard or the dull-as-dishwater blue & white of Holland America Line.

What you call "cheerful" I call cheap - the illustrations on NCL ships are plain awful. What you call heavy and oppressive I call classical and elegant.
 
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RE: Disney Dream Leaves Shipyard

Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:31 am

I've never been on a cruise. I find the sheer size and some of the architecture on these ships quite amazing. And I really like the idea of "central park" on the NCL ships (and others?)

But I just out of curiosity watched a few youtube videos of the inside of Oasis of the Seas, and I have to say it turned me off. Just endless tacky (and I'm sure overpriced) glitz. It struck me as a mix of Vegas, Dubai, Disneyland, Ibiza...(of which I've only actually been to Disneyland, so maybe I'm talking out my butt...) I dunno...I'm sure there would be fun stuff to do, but for the same amount of money one could live it up in some great city somewhere...you could eat REALLY good food instead of just overpriced food. You could listen to REALLY good music...see really great theater, you could...well, you get the idea.

Still, I should try it some time I guess...

I loved two of the comments on this youtube video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Anc9Iuadce4&feature=fvw

"Great...it's like spending your whole vacation at the mall, at Christmas time..."

and

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RE: Disney Dream Leaves Shipyard

Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:14 pm

Quoting n229nw (Reply 13):
"Great...it's like spending your whole vacation at the mall, at Christmas time..."

This is so, so true!
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RE: Disney Dream Leaves Shipyard

Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:23 pm

Quoting WestJetYQQ (Reply 7):
Forget the ship, I'm more impressed by the size of the building they were able to put it in!

Indeed. I thought I was looking at a model of a ship at first in that picture. The size of that hangar is actually quite hard to grasp... I wonder what it must feel like to be standing in it when it's empty.
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RE: Disney Dream Leaves Shipyard

Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:30 pm

Quoting francoflier (Reply 15):
The size of that hangar is actually quite hard to grasp... I wonder what it must feel like to be standing in it when it's empty.

They have two covered building docks at Meyer Werft

http://www.eifelmomente.de/albums/Nordeifel/Fruehjahr/2010_05_11-16_Ostfriesland/2010_05_16_-_01_Meyer-Werft_Papenburg_DNG_bearb.jpg

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