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Japanese Work Ethic And Discipline

Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:15 am

Just finished watching an episode of "Enquete Exclusive" produced by the French TV channel M6. I have to say I was really impressed with how Japanese businesses train their employees. The dedication and discipline required are not something you witness very often in a Western company. I guess this is partially why Japan produces quality products everyone wants.


On a side note, a local TV station in Detroit did a report about workers at Chrysler plan going out during lunch breaks to consume alcohol.


Francophone members, you can catch the episode here in case you missed it.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xfg...-double-visage-du-japon-1-5_travel

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Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:50 am

Quoting geekydude (Thread starter):
. The dedication and discipline required are not something you witness very often in a Western company. I guess this is partially why Japan produces quality products everyone wants.

Don't believe everything you see. What they're not showing are the cover-ups at Toyota over workers who put in so many hours that their kids never knew them before dying of exhaustion. They're also not showing the legions of young recruits who are on Zoloft within months of being hired due to the stress and depression induced by bosses who publicly berate them in meetings from day one. They're not showing the wasted productivity in having workers stay till 7 or 8 pm surfing the net while looking busy just so that they can stay out of "respect" until the section manager leaves for the evening.
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Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:26 am

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 1):
Don't believe everything you see. What they're not showing are the cover-ups at Toyota over workers who put in so many hours that their kids never knew them before dying of exhaustion. They're also not showing the legions of young recruits who are on Zoloft within months of being hired due to the stress and depression induced by bosses who publicly berate them in meetings from day one. They're not showing the wasted productivity in having workers stay till 7 or 8 pm surfing the net while looking busy just so that they can stay out of "respect" until the section manager leaves for the evening.

I agree. I once did an internship at a Mitsui office a long time ago, and found that the Japanese do treat their work very seriously. Of course it's a double-edged sword. The unhealthy level of stress is surely present.

Believe it or not, the Japanese corporate culture of collective Bushido style endurance and perseverance has been leaking into Chinese companies as well. In this world of fierce global competition, perhaps that's a key to survival.
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Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:32 am

Quoting geekydude (Thread starter):
On a side note, a local TV station in Detroit did a report about workers at Chrysler plan going out during lunch breaks to consume alcohol.




I am sure there are plenty who drink during lunch breaks in the UK, Ireland, France, The Netherlands, Spain, Italy and certainly Russia.
I am sure workers drink on lunch breaks at the Dodge, Volkswagen and Toyota plants in Mexico.

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Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:33 am

Quoting geekydude (Reply 2):
Believe it or not, the Japanese corporate culture of collective Bushido style endurance and perseverance has been leaking into Chinese companies as well. In this world of fierce global competition, perhaps that's a key to survival.
Quoting geekydude (Reply 2):
Of course it's a double-edged sword. The unhealthy level of stress is surely present.

People need a time out from work as well, they need to have their own life - otherwise you get to a point where people burn out and the quality of their work suffers. Less stressed workers are usually very productive.
 
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Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:33 pm

Quoting geekydude (Thread starter):
On a side note, a local TV station in Detroit did a report about workers at Chrysler plan going out during lunch breaks to consume alcohol.

I remember an expose report in the Hartford Courant weeks after bad welds caused a problem with a submarine made by Electric Boat.

It showed a bar across the street ready to greet the EB workers on lunch break.

It had beers poured into cups side by side four deep for the length of the whole bar.

The workers would come in, and just throw a $1 bill across the bar for each beer they took.

And yes, I'm sure similar things (including taking some drugs at lunch) happens all around the world.
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Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:26 pm

Quoting Revelation (Reply 5):
And yes, I'm sure similar things (including taking some drugs at lunch) happens all around the world.

Sure, but it still makes one uneasy to think that such things happen daily among assembly line workers at a world class manufacturing facility making an American icon, the Jeep Grand Cherokee.

I just watched that clip again. They were not having a casual glass at the cafeteria. They were drinking large bottles of beer in a park and smoking pot at the same time. In addition, the workers had to DRIVE back to work from the park to finish their shift.

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news...er-auto-workers-busted_20100923_dk
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Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:29 pm

Huh, so Bushido is leaking into the Chinese culture..I hope "honor" goes along and they stop bootlegging all of the hard work the rest of the industrial world has created...ie software, etc.
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RE: Japanese Work Ethic And Discipline

Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:39 pm

Quoting bhill (Reply 7):
Huh, so Bushido is leaking into the Chinese culture..I hope "honor" goes along and they stop bootlegging all of the hard work the rest of the industrial world has created...ie software, etc.

Say whatever you want. I can only assure you, though, that lots of Chinese companies now look to the Japanese way of developing employee dedication and loyalty.
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RE: Japanese Work Ethic And Discipline

Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:43 pm

Quoting geekydude (Thread starter):
I guess this is partially why Japan produces quality products everyone wants.

I'm not sure that's been true for at least a decade. The Japanese definitely work hard; what they produce with all the hours they put in is anyone's guess.
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