|Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 8):|
I know one of them personally, you cannot reason with them, bleeding hearts, shall we say.
Yes, Christianity is a bleeding-heart liberal religion if practiced correctly.
|Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 5):|
What a crock of bull dinky, I wonder how we existed for all these years without being buried by illegals.
Well, given that Texas used to be part of Mexico, you actually didn't exist without Mexicans. Ever.
Illegal immigration across the Mexican border is about as old as the border itself and illegal immigrants have been a part of our economy from the dawn of our economy. As early as 1921, Mexican illegal immigration was already fueling our economy. There was a significant dip during the 1930's (Great Depression) when many went back to Mexico because they fared better there. But after the end of WWII it picked right back up.
Basically, at no point since the establishment of the Mexico-US border has illegal immigration not been an issue and at no point since has illegal immigrant labor not been a major economic force.
Now, I'm not defending illegal immigration by any means. I fully support any means to stop it. They burden the welfare system and the criminal justice system. But one thing is for sure: they do NOT take away jobs from Americans because no American would ever work for the pay and working conditions that illegals do.
If all illegal immigrants were snatched up by space aliens tomorrow, Americans (and I'm including legal resident aliens in that word for our purposes here) would have to pick up the slack. But an American costs 3-5x as much as an illegal immigrant. That means that all of our produce would become *much* more expensive. So would restaurant meals. Everything. An apple would go from 50¢ to $2-3. In other words, a vast devaluation of the Dollar.
So what are we to do? Can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em.
Well, first of all, we have to accept that if we really want to tackle this we're all going to have to pony up some more cash. But the solution is a "guest worker" program, much like many other countries use. This would be a permit that would allow an immigrant to come here and work with no citizenship path attached to it. And some conditions. For example: no having kids, no offenses higher than a civil infraction (we're not going to kick them out over a parking ticket), no welfare, you pay taxes, etc. There would also have to be conditions on employers of guest laborers, like covering their healthcare, minimum wages (which would be lower than the standard American minimum wage), etc.
The other thing we need to do is de-incentivise illegal immigration. One big reason they come is to make a better future for their children. They come here and start having babies. If we repealed the 16th amendment and took away jus soil, that would come to a screeching halt. For all the liberal braying I hear about human rights and what a travesty it would be with babies without a nationality, it's a bunch of horsedung. Very few countries have jus soil and almost all countries will grant automatic nationality to the child of a national, regardless of location of birth. There would be no "nationless" children. The newborn would be a Mexican citizen and would be deported back to Mexico with the parents.
But, unfortunately, these policies must be done at a national level. They aren't going to work on a state level. All they are going to do is cripple the economies of the states that get "tough on immigration," especially when there is no substitute guest worker program.
There's also the issue that LEGALLY immigrating to the United States is next to impossible. And we need to fix that.