seb146
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Windows Media Player: No Time Shown

Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:20 pm

I use MP3 Rocket to download music and Windows Media Player to transfer those music files to my MP3 player. I have tried to download the songs "Kiss" by Tom Jones and "Say It Right" by Nelly Furtado. They download just fine, but when they play in Windows Media Player, no time is shown. That is: the length of the song is not displayed. Because of that, they are not able to be transferred to my MP3 player. Those two songs are in .mp3 format, so that is not the issue. When I download the files from MP3 Rocket, the time is shown even before I click to download, so that is not the issue. It just seems to happen with those two songs no matter which sources I download them from. I do not want to use iTunes simply because I do not want a bunch of stuff on my computer that I will never use and I have already paid for MP3 Rocket, why should I pay for another service? What is the issue? How can it be resolved?

Edit: I am using Windows Media Player 11 and MP3 Rocket 5.4.5

[Edited 2010-11-15 08:22:01]
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RE: Windows Media Player: No Time Shown

Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:51 pm

Quoting seb146 (Thread starter):

I have this issue before. Basically, every music file has "metadata" that is generated, which includes title, artist, and the length of the song. Well, something is messed up with the metadata, it seems. Often times a simple fix is just to start the song from the beginning and let it play all the way to the end and then exit windows media player. If you open it back up, it should show the "scrubber bar" (the thing that shows how far along the song is) as well as the time.

If that didn't fix it, report back - it could be something else.

Just a note, Amazon allows you to buy mp3 files for quite cheap, with no DRM and no need for extra software. They "just work" with both Mac and Windows. Anything you get from them should include album art, correct titles and other metadata, etc.
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RE: Windows Media Player: No Time Shown

Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:27 pm

Quoting ALTF4 (Reply 1):
Often times a simple fix is just to start the song from the beginning and let it play all the way to the end and then exit windows media player. If you open it back up, it should show the "scrubber bar" (the thing that shows how far along the song is) as well as the time.

That's what I thought at first, too, but it does not work. I have played both songs many times over the course of a year or so and still no time displayed. So, any kind of transfer either to CD or MP3 player is not allowed because no time is displayed. The funny thing is: I can click to any point along the "scrubber bar" and it will show how far long in the song it is and keep playing from that point on. I can click back and forth between any random points and it still plays and displays where it is in the song. This has stumped me for some time. I am running WinXP, if that is important.

Quoting ALTF4 (Reply 1):
Amazon allows you to buy mp3 files for quite cheap, with no DRM and no need for extra software. They "just work" with both Mac and Windows.

I have no idea what DRM is, but if it allows for transfer to a CD or MP3 player, I guess I will have to do that. I am cheap is the only reason I am reluctant. I already have a service that should work.
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RE: Windows Media Player: No Time Shown

Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:36 pm

Quoting seb146 (Reply 2):
I have no idea what DRM is

DRM = "Digital Rights Management", which limits your ability to transfer the music, etc. iTunes is now mostly (all?) DRM-free, Amazon always has been, and slowly the world is moving that direction. DRM would not cause the issue you have been having, though.

Now that I know you have that scrubber bar, this link may apply: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306507

Unfortunately, there is no 'fix' for this - whoever originally encoded the file (i.e. turned it into an mp3 file from the original CD) did it wrong.

$1.98 might be a pain in the arse, but it will get you two working mp3 files off of amazon, if the artist is available on there.

The other option is, you could re-encode them, but that would require more work than I can post in a forum reply. If you're interested, start with a program called 'audacity', get the 'lame.dll' plugin and re-encode the file. Don't think of that as a 15 minute job, though, at your level (no offense intended)  
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RE: Windows Media Player: No Time Shown

Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:14 pm

Quoting ALTF4 (Reply 3):
Don't think of that as a 15 minute job, though, at your level (no offense intended)

None taken. I am not a technical person, so any warning like that is welcome! Thanks for the info.
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