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Some Help On New York, Please!

Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:43 am

Heyyy all!

Gosh, it's a long time since I actually started a thread here, but anywhoo;

I'm flying out to JFK next Friday for a weekends' shopping, but need some advice from frequent visitors and New Yorkers themselves.

I arrive on the EI105 at 1315 through Terminal 4. Without taking a private car (which we're doing on the return to Kennedy), what's the best way to get to Manhattan Island; and our hotel in particular which is the Belvedere at 319 W 48th Street?

Also, I'm going out for dinner with my aunt and my partner on the Sunday night, any suggestions for a fantastic restaurant under the $50-100 mark?

Muchos gracias in advance

oh, and Happy Thanksgiving Day!

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RE: Some Help On New York, Please!

Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:02 pm

Unless you have been to the city before take a cab, from the regular queue outside the terminal. Don't forget to tip the driver. That's the easiest way of getting there. The alternatove is the skytrain to jamaica sation change to the LIR to Penn Station and then you still have to take cab about 15 blocks. Combining the LIR. Skytrain and cab fare you don'Ät save that much and have all the hassle.

For the restaurant - the cheeky answer is McDonald's but seriously, ask the hotel concierge for the in places in that price range and if you really want to get good value take the subway/elevated to Jackson Heights or to Forest Hills.
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RE: Some Help On New York, Please!

Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:10 pm

Quoting pawsleykat (Thread starter):
I arrive on the EI105 at 1315 through Terminal 4. Without taking a private car (which we're doing on the return to Kennedy), what's the best way to get to Manhattan Island; and our hotel in particular which is the Belvedere at 319 W 48th Street?

Take the AirTrain to Jamaica, and get on the E subway line. Take it to 50th St. Walk two blocks south to 48th, and then about half a block west to the hotel.

Quoting pawsleykat (Thread starter):
Also, I'm going out for dinner with my aunt and my partner on the Sunday night, any suggestions for a fantastic restaurant under the $50-100 mark?

Need some more specifics here - type of cuisine, ambiance, etc. ?

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RE: Some Help On New York, Please!

Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:21 pm

You have 3 options

Option 1:
Take the AirTrain to Jamaica Station
Switch to the LIRR to any train heading to Penn Station
Take the A,C,E subway to 50th St and walk 2ish blocks South


Option 2:
Take the AirTrain to Jamaica Station
Switch to the E Subway line and ride all the way to 50th St Station
Walk 2ish blocks South

Option 2:
Take the AirTrain to JFK/ Howard Beach Subway Station
Switch to the A Subway line and ride all the way to 50th St Station
Walk 2ish blocks South

Option 4:
A Cab

As you can see there are plenty of options, so choose what interests you more. You'll probably spend the roughly the same about of money and time, which time can vary with the cabs depending on traffic.

As far as restaurants, I don't know anything about them so I'm not even going to attempt that.
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RE: Some Help On New York, Please!

Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:25 pm

Arrival: I differ from Mir's advice: Take AirTrain to Jamaica, Catch Long Island RailRoad to Penn. Take a cab to your hotel given you have luggage (LIRR is a lot faster than the Subway lines).

Restaurant: Italian - Basso56 (ate there twice earlier this month - Went to no 1 on TripAdvisor out of 6000 restaurants whilst I was in town, so BOOK! (Don't tell too many people).

http://basso56.com/home.html
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RE: Some Help On New York, Please!

Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:26 pm

Thanks guys, I was hoping to take a cab into the city, I've always thought the idea of being picked up in a Yellow New York cab at the airport is super glamerous, even though it's probably not.

I'll suggest a cab to Trent, he'll probably say yes. And I can't be done with public transport anyway, especially not somewhere I'm not sure about.

Quoting Mir (Reply 2):
Need some more specifics here - type of cuisine, ambiance, etc. ?

I'm thinking Italian, Chinese, possibly Japanese, Mexican, Indian.

Anything other than Maccydees tbh, cause I'll be eating enough of that over the weekend :P

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RE: Some Help On New York, Please!

Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:28 pm

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 1):
For the restaurant (...) ask the hotel concierge

But not if the hotel has a restaurant in your preferred price range.  
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RE: Some Help On New York, Please!

Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:29 pm

Quoting ozglobal (Reply 4):
Restaurant: Italian - Basso56 (ate there twice earlier this month - Went to no 1 on TripAdvisor out of 6000 restaurants whilst I was in town, so BOOK! (Don't tell too many people).

That's exactly the sort of place I was thinking about. okay, here goes. I'ma gonna book in a couple of hours, when they open 

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RE: Some Help On New York, Please!

Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:33 pm

Quoting TZ757300 (Reply 3):
Option 1:
Take the AirTrain to Jamaica Station
Switch to the LIRR to any train heading to Penn Station
Take the A,C,E subway to 50th St and walk 2ish blocks South


EDIT: Momentary brain fart on my part - for some reason I was thinking Penn Station was at 42nd instead of 34th. So disregard what I previously wrote about this.

LIRR will be somewhat faster than the subway, but it will also be more expensive, and I'm not sure it's any more convenient.

Quoting TZ757300 (Reply 3):
Option 2:
Take the AirTrain to JFK/ Howard Beach Subway Station
Switch to the A Subway line and ride all the way to 50th St Station
Walk 2ish blocks South

The A doesn't stop at 50th St, unless it's late at night. It's also a good bit slower than the E, even during normal hours.

-Mir

[Edited 2010-11-25 04:36:20]
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RE: Some Help On New York, Please!

Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:58 pm

Quoting Mir (Reply 8):

The A doesn't stop at 50th St, unless it's late at night. It's also a good bit slower than the E, even during normal hours.

We're both having brain farts haha
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RE: Some Help On New York, Please!

Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:03 pm

Quoting pawsleykat (Thread starter):
I arrive on the EI105 at 1315 through Terminal 4. Without taking a private car (which we're doing on the return to Kennedy), what's the best way to get to Manhattan Island; and our hotel in particular which is the Belvedere at 319 W 48th Street?

I'm not a local, but I will answer your question about transportation. I would take the AirTrain to the Jamaica Station. From there you can take the Long Island Railroad into Manhattan quickly and easily. From Penn Station in Manhattan, you'll be able to take a subway two or three stops north.
 
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RE: Some Help On New York, Please!

Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:03 pm

Quoting pawsleykat (Reply 5):
I'll suggest a cab to Trent, he'll probably say yes. And I can't be done with public transport anyway, especially not somewhere I'm not sure about.

When I was in New York, I did the AirTrain to Jamaica, the LIRR to Penn and the subway to a friend's place in Chelsea. The cab would be much more New York  
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RE: Some Help On New York, Please!

Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:46 pm

Great Thai restaurant at 55th & 8th. Name is Chai and not far from your hotel.
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RE: Some Help On New York, Please!

Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:51 pm

My two cents:

For getting to the city, take a cab. It's the easiest in terms of luggage (no need to change trains several times, and walk) and is MUCH faster than the subway, even if there is traffic, especially since you're arriving relatively early. Just remember it's a fixed fare ($45 last I checked) so don't let them rip you off just because you're not from here. And remember to tip the driver.

For a restaurant, it depends what you want. If you want a typical American place, with phenomenal burgers and some GREAT beers they make right there, try Heartland Brewery. They have several locations throughout the city, and it's a great place. I went a few days ago, and it's my standard option for out-of-towners when people visit. Everyone loves it when I take them. You can Google their website to find out where the locations are, as I don't know off-hand.

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RE: Some Help On New York, Please!

Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:53 pm

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 13):
For getting to the city, take a cab. It's the easiest in terms of luggage (no need to change trains several times, and walk) and is MUCH faster than the subway, even if there is traffic, especially since you're arriving relatively early. Just remember it's a fixed fare ($45 last I checked) so don't let them rip you off just because you're not from here. And remember to tip the driver.

I disagree: done both many times. Only take the train now, unless REALLY off-peak. My two worst cab trips were 1:45h and 2hrs respectively!
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RE: Some Help On New York, Please!

Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:33 pm

My take.

If you are coming at 1:15pm on a weekday, traffic should not be TOO bad and you would have a flat rate taking a yellow cab into the City from JFK (~$45-$50). The other thing, are you by yourself? Because if not, the minimum $7.25 you would pay for the AirTrain and Subway would add up making it more lucrative to just pay a little bit extra and just take a yellow cab, especially if you are carrying a lot of luggage. Otherwise the AirTrain to Jamaica and then the E train to 50th street is a decent option as it runs express through Queens.

If you decide to take a cab, just be warned that when you get into the arrivals hall, there will be a number of private cab drivers offering you a taxi. They tend to charge a lot more, especially when they know you're not a local. Just exit the building and follow the signs to the designated yellow-cab stands (you should see a line of them), and although the line of passengers may be long, it usually moves pretty fast.

Restaurants are another thing, but your hotel concierge should be useful for this. I usually like using Yelp.com and search the neighborhood. Just remember there is a huge variety of food in NYC and the first step would be deciding what kind of food you want.
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RE: Some Help On New York, Please!

Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:55 pm

You can also take a bus. If you want to do it inexpensively use googlemaps public transit directions function
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RE: Some Help On New York, Please!

Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:50 pm

Other restaurant ideas:

There's an Italian-Argentinian place very close to where you'll be staying: http://www.sosaborella.com/

Also, there's a Japanese place on 55th that specializes in traditional ramen noodle soups (the good kind, not the instant kind). Apparently they have a location on 45th as well, but I haven't been there. http://www.menchankotei.com/

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RE: Some Help On New York, Please!

Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:19 pm

Why would you bother with NYC? According to some on this forum, that's not "the real America", and represents some kind of decadent, liberal, pseudo-America lacking soul and a proper sense of what's red white and blue  
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RE: Some Help On New York, Please!

Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:23 pm

Quoting iairallie (Reply 16):
You can also take a bus. If you want to do it inexpensively use googlemaps public transit directions function

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RE: Some Help On New York, Please!

Fri Nov 26, 2010 3:19 am

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 18):
According to some on this forum, that's not "the real America", and represents some kind of decadent, liberal, pseudo-America lacking soul and a proper sense of what's red white and blue

   - Sounds like fun!

Seriously,

Take a Yellow Cab - for three people with luggage its the only way to go. Its a flat $45, plus tolls ($5.50) and tip ($9.00).

Heading back do this - call a car service. Go online and book a car (Dial 7, Carmel etc.). It's the same as a cab but much nicer. And you will be sure of getting a ride when you need it.

Since you are on 48th Street just walk a block or two West to Ink48 and have a drink upstairs - fantastic view and drinks.

You are in the Hell's Kitchen neighborhood so there will be plenty of restaurants to try out. No need to book like in the UK - eat what you want when you want! Lots of cheap eats too.

If you want to splurge or clelebrate, I would suggest two unique NYC experiences - visit a Steakhouse or go on the World Yacht Dinner Cruise. Both about $70/head IIRC.

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RE: Some Help On New York, Please!

Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:44 am

Here is a link the the official JFK airport website page as to access and fares on taxis including the '$45' fare discussed above. I believe there are PA/NYC official taxi dispatchers who will also give you a card with the info you see on the website link and make sure you get a legit cab. Friday late afternoon/early evening can be a busy time with perhaps a line for cabs.

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RE: Some Help On New York, Please!

Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:31 am

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 18):



Why would you bother with NYC? According to some on this forum, that's not "the real America", and represents some kind of decadent, liberal, pseudo-America lacking soul and a proper sense of what's red white and blue

Because I want shoes and clothes and pretty things for much less than in the UK. And New York is the centre of the universe (alongside London) for me  

I think I'm gonna get on the AirTrain/LIRR. Looks like it could be fun, and a whole new experience and stuff. Only 6 days to go 

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RE: Some Help On New York, Please!

Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:49 am

Enjoy NYC, I love the place and cant wait to go back.

Last time I was there I took a cab and it was $50 plus tip, booked a town car from the hotel on the way back and it was $35 plus tip so not badly priced in comparison to getting between LHR and London.

I ate at Benjamins steakhouse when I was there and it was the best steak I have ever eaten although you'd probably need a reservation

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