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Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:54 am

Very interesting development. Obama's granny performed a Hajj recently and told a Saudi newspaper that she wants her son to convert. I wonder is he is gonna comment on this. Here is a kink:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101125...s_alt_afp/usobamareligionhajjislam
 
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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:58 am

Quoting kevin (Thread starter):
Obama's granny performed a Hajj recently and told a Saudi newspaper that she wants her son to convert.

Great. She's entitled to do that. Hell, a lot of people pray they'll win the lottery. Doesn't mean it's going to happen.

Non-story, really.

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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:00 am

So?

If I had a wacky grandma praying for me to become a scientologist, would that make me one? I don't think so.

This is just the same old birther smear campaign again, without anything even remotely approaching a realistic basis.

The obvious intention behind this kind of innuendo is just disgusting.
 
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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:01 am

Seriously? Why is this even news? So what if his grandma prayed he should become a Muslim? He is not. In fact I think he isn't even Christian, but more of an agnostic/atheist. And prayers don't work anyway....
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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:05 am

Quoting kevin (Thread starter):
Very interesting development. Obama's granny performed a Hajj recently and told a Saudi newspaper that she wants her son to convert. I wonder is he is gonna comment on this. Here is a kink:

Right now, I'm far more concerned about the fact that our furnace is broken and the furnace guy is over an hour late.

Like, a million times more concerned. In fact, the Constitution expressly prohibits requiring any "test of religion" to hold any public office.
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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:10 am

Ok, I just prayed that Obama become a Budhist. When can I expect the media to be knocking at my door? 

As others have noted.... a total non-story.
 
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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:23 am

Quoting kevin (Thread starter):
Obama's granny performed a Hajj recently

Wait, no one's bitching about that the article didn't say which airline/aircraft/reg. no. she flew on. This is airliners.net still, yes?

(That's the bigger story here, as I see it.)
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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:45 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 6):
Wait, no one's bitching about that the article didn't say which airline/aircraft/reg. no. she flew on. This is airliners.net still, yes?

Too right, mate. Where's her trip report?
 
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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:48 am

Quoting Quokka (Reply 7):
Where's her trip report?

LOL!
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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:52 am

Quoting Quokka (Reply 7):
here's her trip report?

I hope it was an L-1011!

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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:11 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 9):
I hope it was an L-1011!

Hasn't your furnace guy turned up yet?

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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:25 am

This is as much news as Palin's North Korea gaffe. Quite sad for the public to grab on to trivial things like these.

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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:34 am

Quoting kevin (Thread starter):
Very interesting development. Obama's granny performed a Hajj recently and told a Saudi newspaper that she wants her son to convert. I wonder is he is gonna comment on this.

Why don't you explain to us why anyone with half a brain should pay attention to this or think it's anything other than part of the political sewage that permeates current politics?
 
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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:49 am

Quoting kevin (Thread starter):
Very interesting development. Obama's granny performed a Hajj recently and told a Saudi newspaper that she wants her son to convert. I wonder is he is gonna comment on this.

Well technically, according to Islamic law, Obama would legally be considered a muslim since his father was muslim. Since he apparently is now christian, he would be considered an apostate.

The New York Times did a piece on the issue a couple of years ago.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/12/op...l?_r=2&ref=todayspaper&oref=slogin

In which they raise a particularly curious issue:

Because no government is likely to allow the prosecution of a President Obama — not even those of Iran and Saudi Arabia, the only two countries where Islamic religious courts dominate over secular law — another provision of Muslim law is perhaps more relevant: it prohibits punishment for any Muslim who kills any apostate, and effectively prohibits interference with such a killing.

At the very least, that would complicate the security planning of state visits by President Obama to Muslim countries, because the very act of protecting him would be sinful for Islamic security guards.


Things like that must send the Secret Service in to epileptic fits.
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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:04 am

Quoting Quokka (Reply 10):

Hasn't your furnace guy turned up yet?

Naw, man. We gotta live like this for three more days. Fireplace, oven, space heaters, two warm dogs. Freshly bathed and conditioned.

The part has to come in and it won't be in until Tuesday.

FML.

And lest any mod say that this is OT, I did justify this as being more important to me than Obama's grandmother's prayers on the Hajj.
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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:10 am

Quoting kevin (Thread starter):
I wonder is he is gonna comment on this

Why on earth would he??

Quoting Speedbird741 (Reply 11):
This is as much news as Palin's North Korea gaffe

Nonsense - that was at least funny.
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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:10 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 14):
And lest any mod say that this is OT, I did justify this as being more important to me than Obama's grandmother's prayers on the Hajj.

Maybe you should have her pray for your furnace, just to hedge your bets.
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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:16 am

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 16):

Maybe you should have her pray for your furnace, just to hedge your bets.

Well, I'm a Jew (sorta). I can get some Christians, Muslims, maybe some Bhuddists and Shintoists and Unitarians to pray for it just to cover all my bases.
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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:27 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 17):
Well, I'm a Jew (sorta). I can get some Christians, Muslims, maybe some Bhuddists and Shintoists and Unitarians to pray for it just to cover all my bases.

What about Hindus...there are more than a billion of us ya know...   
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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:52 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 17):
I can get some Christians, Muslims, maybe some Bhuddists and Shintoists and Unitarians to pray for it just to cover all my bases.
Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 18):
What about Hindus...there are more than a billion of us ya know...


Sounds like you could be starting a new movement for inter-faith understanding and co-operation, Doc.  
 
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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:07 pm

Every day of her life my grandmother prayed I'd become a Methodist.

Alas. It was not to be.

Do I get a thread?
 
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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:02 pm

Quoting StuckInCA (Reply 20):
Every day of her life my grandmother prayed I'd become a Methodist.

Grandmothers often seem to pray for strange and irrelevant things. Case in point:

Over dinner once, my grandmother announced that she "prayed all the time" that my Dad and (common-law of about 15 years at the time) stepmother would get married so they'd no longer be "living in sin", and then asked me what I thought about it. I chuckled and said "First off, 'living in sin' makes it sound like a lot more fun than it actually is on a day-to-day basis. I could see your point if they were two 16-year-olds who'd never been out of the house before, but they're both way over 21... in fact, they both have grown kids who are way over 21, it's not like Glenda (my stepmother) is gonna come up pregnant (hysterectomy), plus both of them have been married three times before they met so it's not likely they're gonna find out anything from each other they didn't already know before they moved in together. I figure marriage-wise they've both paid their debts to society already with 'time served' and should be free to do whatever they want now".

After hearing my response on the matter, my grandmother looked as if I'd just force-fed her a bushel of lemons.
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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:43 pm

Quoting StuckInCA (Reply 20):
Do I get a thread?

You should start one. I'd be interested to discuss that!
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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:13 pm

This clearly sums the thread up:

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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:26 pm

We should all just disregard what grandmothers say.

I grew up with a grandmother constantly telling me. "I wish your daddy hadn't married a god damn gook."
 
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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:52 pm

I guess this finally lays to rest the question of him being a Muslim or not...
 
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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:13 pm

Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 18):

What about Hindus...there are more than a billion of us ya know...

Yes, but you're polythiestic heathens, all of you.

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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:39 pm

Quoting TheCol (Reply 23):
This clearly sums the thread up:

No dude, its moving, as if there is just a tiny little bit there. The real meter for this thread would be dead frozen on zero.

 
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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:37 am

Quoting TSS (Reply 21):
I figure marriage-wise they've both paid their debts to society already with 'time served' and should be free to do whatever they want now

  
 
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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:46 am

Quoting kevin (Thread starter):
Obama's granny performed a Hajj recently and told a Saudi newspaper that she wants her son to convert.


Obama's "granny" wants "her son"?

Please provide further details!!
 
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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:27 am

Most of the Muslims I've met are wonderful people and great members of society.

It wouldn't bother me in the least if Obama decided to become Muslim.

And it'd give all of our faithful fans of the Constitution a great chance to test their own faith in that document.

I imagine some of our older members of a.net remember how JFK was said to be unelectable because he was Catholic, right?

There was all this non-sense around about how JFK would secretly take orders from the Pope.

Instead we here that instead he may have slept with Marylin Monroe in the White House.

Why not a Muslim President, if he was the best person available for the job?

It won't surprise me if that happens in my lifetime, and I'm far from the youngest member of a.net.
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RE: Obama's Granny Prayed For Him To Be Muslim

Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:25 pm

Quoting Mir (Reply 1):
Non-story, really.
Quoting Klaus (Reply 2):
If I had a wacky grandma praying for me to become a scientologist, would that make me one? I don't think so.

This is just the same old birther smear campaign again, without anything even remotely approaching a realistic basis.
Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 3):
Seriously? Why is this even news? So what if his grandma prayed he should become a Muslim? He is not.

   Much ado about nothing! So what if she prayed for him to become Muslim. People pray that a lot of things will happen (many of them not so nice), but that doesn't mean that those prayers come true.

Quoting Revelation (Reply 30):
Most of the Muslims I've met are wonderful people and great members of society.

Same here. Most of the Muslims I've met in my lifetime have been good, hardworking, educated people just like the rest of us.

Quoting Revelation (Reply 30):
It wouldn't bother me in the least if Obama decided to become Muslim.

Me either.

Quoting Revelation (Reply 30):
And it'd give all of our faithful fans of the Constitution a great chance to test their own faith in that document.

Exactly. I'd love to see that.
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