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Illinois Civil Union Bill Passes

Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:18 am

Illinois becomes the next state to pass some sort of civil union legislation. It passed the House by a 61-52 vote and should be passed by the Senate and signed into law by the governor tomorrow. Way to go Illinois!

Illinois Civil Union Bill Passes

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RE: Illinois Civil Union Bill Passes

Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:27 am

YEE HAW!!! Proud of my ancestral homeland  
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RE: Illinois Civil Union Bill Passes

Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:19 am

ok now, one small step
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RE: Illinois Civil Union Bill Passes

Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:57 am

Excellent news! Hopefully we'll start seeing more of this.
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RE: Illinois Civil Union Bill Passes

Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:09 pm

What are the provisions for "divorce"? Wherever there is a union or marriage you will have some people getting divorced.

I remember reading someplace that when gay marraige became legal in Quebec there were couples who wanted divorced but gay divorce wasn't legal....
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RE: Illinois Civil Union Bill Passes

Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:16 pm

Great news! Congrats Il !
 
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RE: Illinois Civil Union Bill Passes

Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:26 am

Quoting OA412 (Reply 3):
Excellent news! Hopefully we'll start seeing more of this.

I hate to say it, but hopefully not. There are still some rights that this bill does not grant that heterosexual marriage enjoys, and that's not enough. I understand the idea that something is better than nothing, but I worry that this will be seen as a solution, and thus make people think that the problem is solved, when in reality it's just an incremental step.

I've long said that the only real equality is when gays can get married, not just get civil unions. But I would have still been okay with this had it kept the idea of civil unions but granted the exact same legal rights as marriages. But it doesn't even go that far, so I'm left feeling kind of lukewarm about it.

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RE: Illinois Civil Union Bill Passes

Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:45 am

Quoting Mir (Reply 6):

I've long said that the only real equality is when gays can get married, not just get civil unions.

Or alternatively, when straights no longer can "get married," but can only get civil unions.

This is "separate but equal" and this is not OK. Sorry, Illinois, but I'm not impressed.
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RE: Illinois Civil Union Bill Passes

Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:49 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 7):
Or alternatively, when straights no longer can "get married," but can only get civil unions.

That would be fine, too.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 7):
This is "separate but equal"

THAT'S the term I was looking for. Except they're still not exactly equal.

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RE: Illinois Civil Union Bill Passes

Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:49 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 7):
when straights no longer can "get married," but can only get civil unions.

you can count on this straight guy not getting married or getting a civil union.   
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