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Presidents Upcoming Trip To Hawaii

Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:31 am

Pretty surprising to hear that Obama wont go along with this Hawainn trip this year, staying behind because of the "lame duck" session of Congress and backed up legislation still pending. 'Sorry kids, Daddy wont possibly be able to join us this year on our trip to Hawaii, but we can take Bo with us!'

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...i-without-the-president/?src=twrhp
 
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RE: Presidents Upcoming Trip To Hawaii

Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:02 am

Given Hawaiian quarantine regulations, I'd be very surprised if Bo can join them. There is a five-day fast track program where he'd only have to stay five days at the pound...

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Just read the news: apparently Bo is going. So the First Dog gets special dispensation? Frankly, that upsets me. Not because I think he shouldn't, but because I think that Hawaii's anti-Rabies laws are beyond absurd, cruel to animals, and leave gaping holes in other places.
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RE: Presidents Upcoming Trip To Hawaii

Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:44 am

http://whitehouse.blogs.cnn.com/2010...tion-features-entire-first-family/

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Bo, the first family's portugese water dog, has made his debut on the island after complying with the state's stringent animal quarantine rules.

Bo had to go through a rigorous quarantine program in order to meet the state's strict rabies requirements

Saneisi says the process for adult dogs takes at least four months prior to their arrival on the island. Puppies take nine months to prepare to meet the requirements. The prerequisites are fairly extensive and include a microchip implant along with the standard series of shots.

Within the last 5-10 years the quarrantine rules have been "relaxed" in that they added "fast track" options for people who do lots of leg work (shots, paperwork, etc.) prior to arrival. Initially it was reduced from months to weeks, then to days, then to nothing. BUT (and its a BIG but) if all the requirements aren't met, you get stuck with the old fashioned 3 month quarrantine.

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RE: Presidents Upcoming Trip To Hawaii

Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:55 am

Quoting ALoha73g (Reply 2):

Within the last 5-10 years the quarrantine rules have been "relaxed" in that they added "fast track" options for people who do lots of leg work (shots, paperwork, etc.) prior to arrival. Initially it was reduced from months to weeks, then to days, then to nothing. BUT (and its a BIG but) if all the requirements aren't met, you get stuck with the old fashioned 3 month quarrantine.

The one I saw was five days as the shortest quarantine.
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RE: Presidents Upcoming Trip To Hawaii

Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:16 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 3):

The one I saw was five days as the shortest quarantine.

The "5-Day-or-Less Program" is really the "Released-same-day-at-the-airport-or-120-day-quarantine-program."

You have to follow and complete all the steps in the checklist in order to qualify for the 5-Day-or-Less Program. If you do, you can pick up your dog or cat from the HNL Quarantine office. If you don't, your dog or cat will not qualify for this program and will be put into quarantine for up to 120 days.

The only time you will not be able to pick up your pet directly from the airport when you meet the program requirements is if your pet is found to have ticks/parasites on inspection or arrives after the office closes for the day.

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RE: Presidents Upcoming Trip To Hawaii

Fri Dec 31, 2010 6:06 pm

Some ideas on the cost of the U.S. Presidential family's holidays in Hawaii.

http://www.hawaiireporter.com/presid...hawaii-costs-to-taxpayers-detailed

http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/...istmas-vacation-hawa#ixzz19YcTiWK2

From the pictures it Looks more as if the property is on Lanikai beach rather than Kailua beach.

  
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RE: Presidents Upcoming Trip To Hawaii

Fri Dec 31, 2010 6:38 pm

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 5):

The costs are really not an issue as long as they don't stiff Honolulu County on the police OT bills. Obama is pretty fair in his choices - he knows this is a small island and terrible inconvenience can easily result from his activities - hence when he went out for dinner the other night, they started late so as to avoid worsening commute traffic, and they made their snorkeling visit to Hanauma Bay on a Tuesday when it is normally closed to the public. Even better, he is spending most of his beachgoing time on the Kaneohe MCAS base grounds, which doesn't inconvenience anyone since the public doesn't have access to the beaches on the base anyhow.
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RE: Presidents Upcoming Trip To Hawaii

Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:18 pm

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 6):
they made their snorkeling visit to Hanauma Bay on a Tuesday when it is normally closed to the public.

Knowing what I know as an old timer visitor to Oahu it seems to me that going from Kailua/Lanikai area or even Kaneohe to Hanauma Bay with a 20 cars motorcade... could disturb the traffic.
Unless they went snorkeling in the middle of the night?
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RE: Presidents Upcoming Trip To Hawaii

Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:22 pm

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 7):
it seems to me that going from Kailua/Lanikai area or even Kaneohe to Hanauma Bay with a 20 cars motorcade... could disturb the traffic. Unless they went snorkeling in the middle of the night?

They went in the middle of the day when there's no commute traffic. This is the week between Xmas and New Year's so a lot of people are not working anyhow.
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RE: Presidents Upcoming Trip To Hawaii

Fri Dec 31, 2010 11:54 pm

I get really sick of people criticizing Presidents for taking vacations.

BHO has spent no more money than GWB on vacations, has not spent any more time on vacation, and really can't take a vacation anyway. All he can do is temporarily move his office. He continues to be President 24/7 and he can communicate by multiple different media at all times, even in the air.

Security arrangements are not made by the President but rather by the Secret Service. They are necessarily expensive because there are millions of Americans who want to kill the President. And who wanted to kill the last several.

The President, like anyone else, has the right to take a vacation. He has one of the most stressful jobs in the world, and, in spite of the lunacy spouted by the Right, he has not been any more extravagant than any other President.
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RE: Presidents Upcoming Trip To Hawaii

Sat Jan 01, 2011 12:49 am

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 5):

I do not begrudge my president a vacation. I do not attack the cost, so long as it's reasonable and prudent.

When you, I or just about anyone else goes on vacation, we can unplug. We don't have to answer phones, we don't have to think about work, we just get to relax. Not everyone, but most.

The President of The United States is only on vacation in name. The calls and emails still come. The briefs, the conferences, the decisions, etc. are all still there.

Do you think that Medvedev, Karzai, Harper, Calderon, etc. would hear "Sorry, President Obama is on vacation this week, do you want to speak To Vice-President Biden?" if they were to call?

I don't agree with this president, but I don't wish to deny him, or any other president, the illusion of a vacation. Because, that's all it is...an illusion.
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