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Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:02 pm

This has to be the dumbest thing I've read in a while coming out of the mouth of Congress. Former Mayor now Rep. Kirk Watson introduced the bill no less. What are you thoughts on allowing Congress to tell you how to raise your kids (essentially)?   



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Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:31 pm

They should better draw up a bill requiring "real" SexEd (i.e., not abstinence only) in junior high. I guess learning about contraceptives would be more efficient in reducing teen pregnancies   ...
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The law is interesting but misguided. Parents should not be punished for the Kids actions. The intent of the law is good, but the penalty and enforcement section is a bit lacking.
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Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:59 pm

Let me get this straight: a GOP Mayor and GOP AG introduce an invasive bill that regulates the private behavior of citizens...

...and then they complain that government is too big and intrusive.

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Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:16 pm

What a load of bull. What happened to freedom of speech?

I hate to break it to the ultra-conservative-prudish-hard-core bible-thumping-right-wingers but kids are more and more sexual nowadays, not that I agree with it, but the way I see it there's no stopping it.
 
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Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:25 pm

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 4):

Simply threaten your child with their life and take their phone away from them. Problem solved.   

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 3):

The state Senator who introduced the bill is a democrat.
 
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Quoting fxramper (Reply 5):

Simply threaten your child with their life and take their phone away from them. Problem solved.

Seriously. I swear we're on the fast track to becoming a nanny state   
 
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Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:28 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 2):
The intent of the law is good...

How is the intent of the law a good thing? This seems like the impish kind of thing teens have always done in one way or another. Why do you think it's a good thing to try to regulate it?
 
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They kids today... Getting naked pictures of your girlfriend is too easy now. These kids don't know how easy they got it. Back in the day you had to go and use a Polaroid camera....


On a more serious note there is a real issue here that many of you may not see. As a teacher I have had to deal with this stuff first hand and can see how destructive it can be. I have had girls and boys sext each other. Then they break up and the photos get all over the school. Now you have dirty photos of some girl or guy or both on the phones of hundreds of kids. Sure they shouldn't have done it to begin with, but a lot of kids don't think that way.

There was an article in the NEA magazine (I don't always agree with the union, but I do read the free magazine I get, as I am forced to be a member) about an assistant principal in Texas who had taken some cell phones from students who had been using them in class. They were locked in his desk and the parents of the girl pressed charges against those who had received the sexts for possession of child pornography. The principal was arrested right along with a bunch of teens because he had the phones in his desk. Even though he wasn't in the union the union and school district came to his defence and the charges were dropped.

The possession of child pornography and sexting can be a HUGE deal to educators and anyone else.
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Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:48 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 3):
a GOP Mayor and GOP AG introduce an invasive bill that regulates the private behavior of citizens...

With all due respect Doc, how about reading the WHOLE article before making such conclusions; this particular item and case crosses BOTH political parties.

Second paragraph of the article (Bold emphasis added):
The measure, introduced by State Sen. Kirk Watson (D-Austin), would make sexting a Class C misdemeanor requiring a court appearance for the teenaged violator, and would allow a judge to 'sentence' his or her parent to participate in an education program on sexting's long-term harmful consequences.

Quoting casinterest (Reply 2):
The law is interesting but misguided. Parents should not be punished for the Kids actions. The intent of the law is good, but the penalty and enforcement section is a bit lacking.

That can be open for debate, since most teenagers are indeed minors; parents are technically responsible for their kids' actions. It's kind of like a corporation is responsible for the actions of its employees. One needs to remember that, in most instances, it is THE PARENTS that buy and provide the smart phone devices (or equivalent) for their kids that enables them to sext images so to speak. A simple, less government-intrusive measure would be for the parents to STOP buying these devices for their kids. IMHO, teens do NOT NEED to have these devices in their possession. A cell phone with limited capabilities, I can see teens having (since pay phones are more scarce now than they were when I was a teenager); everything else, is unnecessary fluff which can become very damaging if improperly used (sexting).

Case and point: my 2 teenage nieces (one 15, the other 13) don't have smart phones (or ones capable of sending images), and I'm sure my brother is glad because it's one less headache for him and his wife to worry about. Raising teenagers in and of itself is already a challenge.

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Currently, teens engaged in 'sexting' can be charged with possessing or trafficking in child pornography. That offense carries the potential of decades of prison time, plus the requirement that the teen register for the rest of his or her life as a sex offense pervert.

"This bill's legal provisions ensure that minors are punished for their improper behavior, but do not face life altering criminal charges," Watson said.

The law would also allow teens who successfully adhere to the court's requirements, which includes completing an ‘education program’ about the consequences of sexting, to petition to have the misdemeanor offense expunged from their records.


It sounds like on, one hand, they're reducing the current penalty; but they're expanding it in another in terms of parental involvement.

A reminder (since the thread title doesn't specify it) that this new law will only apply in TEXAS. Other states have different laws and penalties for such.
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Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:53 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 2):
The law is interesting but misguided. Parents should not be punished for the Kids actions. The intent of the law is good, but the penalty and enforcement section is a bit lacking.

Bingo.

Disclaimer: I'm not a parent, so I know how to parent better than just about anyone.

This is just ridiculous. You don't charge the parent when the kid gets busted for reckless driving or worse. Sexting should be no exception. Re: punishing the kids--while I don't think sexting should be subject to a child pornography charge or really any charge at all (after all, we don't charge teenagers who fool around with each other with "indecent liberties" or "lewd and lascivious conduct" or whatever they call it), I think the willful dissemination of those pictures to third parties should still be prosecutable. Example: Sue sends hoo-hah pics to Johnny, who forwards them to the football team. Johnny should be in big time trouble. Sex offender status? Probably not. Expunged from record at a later date? Maybe. But I think there should be legal consequences for that.

Parents need to have the hard conversations with their kids. The relative anonymity of modern communications IMHO isn't helping at all--kids who might not have initiated sexual contact before now have an easy, lower-"risk" gateway to do so. The only way to really quell this starts with teaching good responsible behavior and positive self-esteem from day one. Much like sex, drugs and reckless driving, they need to realize the gravity and potentially negative consequences of sexting.

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 4):
I hate to break it to the ultra-conservative-prudish-hard-core bible-thumping-right-wingers

Why are you bringing that into the equation when it didn't factor into this article at all? It has nothing to do with being "prudish." No self-respecting parent of any creed or political persuasion wants their kid exposing themselves to everybody.

Sex to teens is like a car, except EVERYONE's got the equipment for sex. As long as healthy attitudes, caution and respect for sex are maintained, just like a vehicle, it can be a wonderful thing. Put it in the wrong hands or make split-second rash decisions and you can devastate the rest of your life. It's not so much that sexting leads to actual sex (which it can) but the problem is this: Once you put something, anything on the Internet...it's there for good. Once you give it away, it's gone...it's not obliterated.

You can't punish parents for the boneheaded actions of their children. Setbacks for children don't always evolve from a failure of parenting. I like the Ronald Reagan "trust but verify" approach to this problem. I think all teen cell phone account data (including text and picture messages) should be readily available to the parents. Kids need privacy and trust, of course, but parents need latitude to do their own due diligence to crack down on this.

I wouldn't even mind something like a "cell phone certification" plan for kids. Teach them proper phone use, give them the guidlines, outline the consequences if they break the rules. Make them sign a contract with the parent and maybe even the cell phone provider before they are allowed cell phone privileges. Give the kids the understanding that, while respecting their right to privacy, their parents can look through their phone data at any time.
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Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:05 pm

Bringing the full force of the law to bear does seem rather heavy handed for what is seen, perhaps, as just messing about... until the full impact hits home when "dearly beloved" sends your pic to all his mates.... by which time you feel like cr@p and then the law comes knocking on the door. But, does the US have alternative systems to address this problem?


Over here, CEOP (Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre) has brought out a video about the hazards.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12391723
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Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:31 pm

Quoting oly720man (Reply 12):
by which time you feel like cr@p and then the law comes knocking on the door.

Frankly those girls (or guys) too stupid to realize that their pictures could be used as blackmail or could very well end up in the wrong hands very much deserve all the shame, embarrassment and legal issues they'll have coming their way.
 
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Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:27 pm

Hold on... this bill seems a way better idea than the current system! Look at what happens now:

"Currently, teens engaged in 'sexting' can be charged with possessing or trafficking in child pornography. That offense carries the potential of decades of prison time, plus the requirement that the teen register for the rest of his or her life as a sex offense pervert."

I agree with most of yall on not punishing the parents and all, but this is a lot more fair than charging the two 17 1/2 year olds with child pornography !

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Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:32 pm

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 9):
A simple, less government-intrusive measure would be for the parents to STOP buying these devices for their kids.

   Why is what makes the most sense so hard to do? Kids don't need smart phones - period.

On the other hand, you have to take away the webcams too. A quick perusal of any free porn site makes that abundantly clear. Even digital cameras are culprits - how many of us had HS girlfriends who e-mailed dirty pictures to us? Is it bad if I kept them? LOL

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 13):
Frankly those girls (or guys) too stupid to realize that their pictures could be used as blackmail or could very well end up in the wrong hands very much deserve all the shame, embarrassment and legal issues they'll have coming their way.

Unfortunately I'm, inclined to agree...until it's my daughter. Then her head and the guy's will be on a plate...LOL
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Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:34 pm

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 9):

With all due respect Doc, how about reading the WHOLE article before making such conclusions; this particular item and case crosses BOTH political parties.

My bad. I'll just join in on HMO's nanny state complaint.

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Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:02 pm

Quoting mbmbos (Reply 7):
How is the intent of the law a good thing? This seems like the impish kind of thing teens have always done in one way or another. Why do you think it's a good thing to try to regulate it?

The intent of the law is to replace the current practice of charging kids with child porn violations and ruining their life. So why do you read into it that it is attempting to regulate them?

The impish thing these kids are doing is broadcasting private messages within a public medium that allows for misuse by 3rd parties. This is far beyond simple stupid messing around done by kids in private.
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Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:23 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 16):
Yes, sexting=bad.

Why? What is wrong with a teen couple, engaged in a relationship, that want to send each other dirty texts. I think the govt. needs to mind it's own damn business and worry about the million other things that precede this 'problem'.
 
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Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:38 pm

Quoting fxramper (Reply 18):

Why? What is wrong with a teen couple, engaged in a relationship, that want to send each other dirty texts. I

Because of what happens when they break up and then the boy sends out all sorts of naked pictures of the girl. Happens all the time.
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Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:45 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 19):
Because of what happens when they break up and then the boy sends out all sorts of naked pictures of the girl.

Perhaps the femme contingent needs to strike back and start requesting dirty videos from their boyfriends as insurance - so that once things go awry they can counter by putting their guy's disappointing package all over the internet as well.
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Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:00 pm

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 20):

Perhaps the femme contingent needs to strike back and start requesting dirty videos from their boyfriends as insurance - so that once things go awry they can counter by putting their guy's disappointing package all over the internet as well.

That happens, too.

Bottom line is that, like sex, like drugs, etc. EDUCATION is going to do a lot better than "Get tough."

"Get tough" NEVER works, especially not on teenagers, because they all figure that the consequence won't happen to them.
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Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:12 pm

Quoting falstaff (Reply 8):
The possession of child pornography and sexting can be a HUGE deal to educators and anyone else.

If the principal didn't know that, then he or she is the biggest idiot ever.
 
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Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:56 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 17):
This is far beyond simple stupid messing around done by kids in private.

Kids do lots of stupid things that have long lasting consequences. Always have.

Social stigma based on a moment's bad judgment is something a wise parent will discuss with their children. Having said that, however, social mores about, say, nudity are changing radically. In this day and age, flashing a bit too much flesh is something we've seen a lot of and is not the stigma it once was. Sure, sexting will "stay around forever" but it used to be teen pregnancy would tarnish a young girl's for life forever. Even though it continues to be a setback it certainly doesn't label a girl as the village slut like it once did. Likewise with sexting. Things change. This isn't the biggest problem facing teens by any means.
 
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Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:12 pm

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 15):
how many of us had HS girlfriends who e-mailed dirty pictures to us? Is it bad if I kept them? LOL


None, we didn't have the Internet in high school. If you wanted a dirty photo of your girlfriend you better have had a Polaroid camera.

Quoting Flighty (Reply 22):
If the principal didn't know that, then he or she is the biggest idiot ever.


He didn't even know that the kid's phones had those images. The phones were taken away for use during class, not because what was on them.

The phone policy at my work (school) is off and out of sight. Ist offense is teacher takes away phone the student can pick it up at the end of the day. 2nd offense the student gets the phone taken away, plus a day of in school suspension and mom or dad has to come and pick up the phone. 3rd offense, the phone stays locked in the AP's office until the end of the term, then the student gets their phone back. Most of the time there isn't a third offense, but every year there is are several phones locked in the AP office. If the kid is using his phone in class the teacher or AP isn't looking on their phone to see everyone they called or looking at every photo on the thing, he just takes it. If the cops trace the text to see where it was sent and everyone who has possession of that text gets in trouble with the law, why should the AP get into trouble? It should be the kids who's phone it it.

There was a case in Michigan where a 13 year old girl was charged with producing and distribution of child porn because she took a naked photo of herself and texted it to her boyfriend, who then sent it around the school. That girl had to register as a sex offender and will have that stigma for a long time. A stupid thing that she did for sure, but she shouldn't have to pay for it for probably the rest of her life.
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:07 am

Quoting falstaff (Reply 23):

There was a case in Michigan where a 13 year old girl was charged with producing and distribution of child porn because she took a naked photo of herself and texted it to her boyfriend, who then sent it around the school. That girl had to register as a sex offender and will have that stigma for a long time. A stupid thing that she did for sure, but she shouldn't have to pay for it for probably the rest of her life.

There's also the legal principle that you don't prosecute the protected class. If the idea of child porn laws is to protect the kids, then you don't prosecute the kids.
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:27 am

Quoting falstaff (Reply 23):
A stupid thing that she did for sure, but she shouldn't have to pay for it for probably the rest of her life.

I agree, but legally, that is the consequence. Maybe we should change the law if we don't feel it should be enforced.

Quoting falstaff (Reply 23):
why should the AP get into trouble? It should be the kids who's phone it it.

Probably not even then. What are we going to do, ruin kids lives by calling them "sex offenders" and throwing them in jail with the rapists? Not a good solution at all IMO. This is just prude nonsense basically. A picture should not be the same thing as real misconduct. We allow sick movies with violence / terror that is blood curdling. That seems far worse than a picture of a naked 15 year old or whatever. Incidentally, in some states people of that age are allowed to marry an adult. I think this is just another American manufactured moral panic...
 
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:13 pm

Quoting mbmbos (Reply 22):
This isn't the biggest problem facing teens by any means.

It's not the biggest problem, but a big problem is when they get charged with child pornography for it. That is a felony, I stand by my point from earlier. The intent of the law is good. The consequences and folllow through of the legislation leave a lot to be desired.
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:33 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 26):
...but a big problem is when they get charged with child pornography for it.

Then let's change the child pornography laws instead of legislating teen behavior.
 
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:14 pm

I would also like to point out that this title and the article is misleading in defining "sexting" as necessarily sending naked pictures. Sexting refers to any generally dirty exchange and rarely actually implies the exchange of photos. When I first read the title I was completely mislead and wondered how this was not a violation of 1st amendment.

Just thought I would correct all y'all old folk.

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Quoting AKiss20 (Reply 28):
I would also like to point out that this title and the article is misleading in defining "sexting" as necessarily sending naked pictures. Sexting refers to any generally dirty exchange and rarely actually implies the exchange of photos.

Many states (including Texas at present) would disagree with you.

Earlier-posted exerpt from the article:

Currently, teens engaged in 'sexting' can be charged with possessing or trafficking in child pornography. That offense carries the potential of decades of prison time, plus the requirement that the teen register for the rest of his or her life as a sex offense pervert.

The above's CLEARLY implying that sexting involves the sending/distribution of images/pictures; pronography (more often than not) is visual. Transmitting lewd words or gestures (through electronic means) would be considered more on the lines of sexual harassment rather than pornography.
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Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 29):
The above's CLEARLY implying that sexting involves the sending/distribution of images/pictures; pronography (more often than not) is visua

Yup but I think our friend was saying the adult journalists do not know the correct definition of the word, which was made up by teenagers. So that was his point, that journalists have the wrong idea, I think.
 
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:18 pm

Quoting falstaff (Reply 23):
If you wanted a dirty photo of your girlfriend

Well the digital cameras sucked in the late 90s I know that much - had some developed rolls of film as well. No Polaroid required.

Quoting Flighty (Reply 30):
Yup but I think our friend was saying the adult journalists do not know the correct definition of the word, which was made up by teenagers.

Adults and teenagers often have differing views of what certain sex-related things actually mean. This is nothing new.
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:36 pm

Quoting Flighty (Reply 30):
Yup but I think our friend was saying the adult journalists do not know the correct definition of the word, which was made up by teenagers. So that was his point, that journalists have the wrong idea, I think.
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 31):
Adults and teenagers often have differing views of what certain sex-related things actually mean. This is nothing new.

While true, it's the LEGAL definition of the word that's the ultimate decider here. If laws regarding such activity (including penalties and so forth) are being proposed; there needs to be a clear understanding & universal definition of the activity (in this case, sexting) in order for such laws be be written.

Otherwise, it just creates more confusion.
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:41 pm

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 31):
Well the digital cameras sucked in the late 90s I know that much


I know... I had a digital camera I bought in 1997. It was $450 bucks and would be .75 megapixel today. It took four AAs and drained them very fast. If you tried to take a photo of anything moving it didn't work.

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 31):
had some developed rolls of film as well


The guys at the photo lab probably had copies of your photos too.
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Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:46 am

Quoting Flighty (Reply 30):
Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 29):
The above's CLEARLY implying that sexting involves the sending/distribution of images/pictures; pronography (more often than not) is visua

Yup but I think our friend was saying the adult journalists do not know the correct definition of the word, which was made up by teenagers. So that was his point, that journalists have the wrong idea, I think.

That is exactly what I was trying to say. As my generation is the one to create "sexting" I just thought I would share what sexting means to us.

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 32):
While true, it's the LEGAL definition of the word that's the ultimate decider here. If laws regarding such activity (including penalties and so forth) are being proposed; there needs to be a clear understanding & universal definition of the activity (in this case, sexting) in order for such laws be be written.

Otherwise, it just creates more confusion.

Is sexting even a legal term? I don't see why it would be, all the laws have to do with the trafficking of lewd images. If you can point me to a legal definition of the term sexting I will agree with you, but otherwise it is just a slang term for a certain set of actions.
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RE: Legislation To Punish Teens For 'sexting'.

Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:56 am

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 14):
how many of us had HS girlfriends who e-mailed dirty pictures to us? Is it bad if I kept them? LOL

If you do have them still, you are in possession of child pornography. Just so ya know  
Quoting AKiss20 (Reply 34):
As my generation is the one to create "sexting"

I knew people who were "sexting" back when you were 9. And before that there was phone sex. And before that there were "love notes". I'm not trying to be mean, but what's going on nowadays is hardly groundbreaking. The only thing that's different is that you can now instantly show 2 billion people what you were sent.

Quoting AKiss20 (Reply 28):
Sexting refers to any generally dirty exchange and rarely actually implies the exchange of photos.

While the first bit is true, more often than not kids do send naked pictures. Just because you didn't get any...  
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RE: Legislation To Punish Teens For 'sexting'.

Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:20 pm

Quoting mbmbos (Reply 27):
Then let's change the child pornography laws instead of legislating teen behavior.

Unfortunately, this will never happen. Politicians are not willing to touch regulations like these with a 10 foot pole, as other politicians and interest groups will call them out for being soft on crime/against the children/in favor of sex predators/ etc.

When I lived in Illinois, I remember a news article talking about a debate between two candidates running for an open judge spot or something like that, and one of these candidates actually said the other was "promoting the pedophile agenda." On top of people like that, you also see some states trying to criminalize sex between two consenting teenagers (Kansas comes to mind).

Until that kind of BS stops (ha!), sensible laws and regs about anything related to child safety (whether they be sex, violence, divorce, transportation, etc.) will be hard to come by.
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RE: Legislation To Punish Teens For 'sexting'.

Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:42 pm

Quoting AKiss20 (Reply 34):
Is sexting even a legal term? I don't see why it would be, all the laws have to do with the trafficking of lewd images. If you can point me to a legal definition of the term sexting I will agree with you, but otherwise it is just a slang term for a certain set of actions.

Here's one definition source (in this case, I refrained from using Wikipedia) from USLegal.com:

http://definitions.uslegal.com/s/sexting/

Exerpt (Bold emphasis added):

Sexting refers to an act of sending sexually explicit materials through mobile phones. The word is derived from the combination of two terms sex and texting. Sexting is a punishable offence in the U.S A teenager texting sexually explicit photographs of themselves, or of their friends or partners, can be charged with distribution of child pornography and those who receive the images can been charged with possession of child pornography. The term was defined by the court in United States v. Broxmeyer, 2010 U.S. App. LEXIS 16032 (2d Cir. 2010) as the exchange of sexually explicit text messages, including photographs, via cell phone.

While the above-definition CAN include sexually explicit text messages; most if not all of the laws (current and proposed) and punnishments (including child pornography charges) deal predominantly with the image/picture sending/distribution.

Bottom line: sending sexually explicit text messages ALONE won't likely yield a child pornography charge (though it may yield a sexual harassment charge); sending a similar text message WITH photograph(s) WILL.
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RE: Legislation To Punish Teens For 'sexting'.

Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:41 pm

This thread basically sums up what is wrong with America. The title implies that teens are going to get punished for a teen activity and immediately people blame the "ultra right wing Christian Republicans" for creating a neo-Conservative nanny state. The law was created by a Dem, is supported on both sides of the aisle and is decriminalizing sexting because it can needlessly ruin people's lives. Why do people have to be so divisive? I know and like both raging liberals and conservative Christians. Both sides often times have valid points, but people are so caught up on one side and needlessly hate the other that nothing gets done. It sucks, and it's why no one is ever happy with Washington anymore regardless of who's in charge. Except for the stupid blame-the-parent bit, this particular law actually makes a lot of sense, and it's refreshing to see bipartisan government adopt to the new tech world we live in.
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RE: Legislation To Punish Teens For 'sexting'.

Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:48 pm

Quoting falstaff (Reply 33):
The guys at the photo lab probably had copies of your photos too.

Our local drugstore had a 70-something woman for the photo processor, so hopefully it was only her, haha.

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 35):
If you do have them still, you are in possession of child pornography. Just so ya know

Ouch...kinda changes how I think of my "ex-files". This is why I will always advise my daughter to never allow a boyfriend of just a few months to photograph her in compromising positions...we keep the photos ladies!
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