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Chernobyl: The Lost Film

Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:04 pm

Just found this link to a forgotten video shot 2 or 3 days after the Chernobyl disaster by a Ukrainian director.

Everyone you saw in that video close to the reactor would be dead within a few months , the guys on the roof would have been dead by the end of the day. If i remember 1000 rem is the limit for the human body(in the best conditions) around 200-300 if you got it all at once. Röntgen/h which is the same as rem/h at 30 40 you would have maybe 2 hours before you showed rad sickness, add this to all the alpha, Beta and gamma charged dust and your chances are slim. that dust would be in you for 100s of years. I work freeder inspection on CANDU reactor faces with a full plastic suit complete with air line and multiple dosimeters. The most i ever get is 600mR a jump and that is considered a lot, In one year i might get a total dose of 2 rem.

Some sad shit there yo.
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RE: Chernobyl: The Lost Film

Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:37 pm

Sad and scary, too.

I remember when the escaped radiation was expected to arrive on our side of the Atlantic; the news told us we would be experiencing the equivalent of standing in front of a microwave oven for six hours or something like that.
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RE: Chernobyl: The Lost Film

Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:22 pm

Thanks for sharing this.

A true sad episode of history which unfortunately until this day is very much alive for some people.
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RE: Chernobyl: The Lost Film

Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:28 am

Wow, crazy stuff, what an amazing video. Brings back the memories of going there 3 years ago with a couple of other Airliners.net users.

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RE: Chernobyl: The Lost Film

Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:49 am

Quoting Severnaya (Reply 2):

A true sad episode of history which unfortunately until this day is very much alive for some people.

I have seen other chronicles, read other accounts.

The people tasked with containing that disaster had to know that they were facing certain death - such bravery. For so many whose lives were not as severely affected, these people were heroes.
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RE: Chernobyl: The Lost Film

Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:48 am

The most shocking image to me was the one filming through the hole in the roof of unit 4 where the chimney is visible - to really be in there...

The technical stuff:

Quoting SepulTALLICA (Thread starter):
Röntgen/h which is the same as rem/h at 30 40 you would have maybe 2 hours before you showed rad sickness

Röntgen/h is a unit of charge dose, 1 R = 0.258 C/kg. Rem is deducted from the rad, 1 rad = 0.01 Gy = 0.01 J/kg, the energy deposited in matter by the radiation. However, with the ionization energy of about 36 J/C, one can get a rough approximation of 1 rad = 1.15 R.

It's even more rem/h, as there was probably a significant part of alpha radiation included in the dust which has a relative biological impact of 20, which means that 1 Gy_alpha = 20 Sv equivalent dose (the modern units, 1 Gy = 100 rad, 1 Sv = 100 rem). Alpha radiation is not much of a problem if you sit in front of a solid block of uranium, as the attenuation in tissue is very strong and the radiation won't reach further than the very top layers of your skin. However, dust is inhaled and ingested, so you have the radiation right there in your body, killing you from the inside.

Kudos to those brave liquidators.
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RE: Chernobyl: The Lost Film

Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:09 am

Quoting sccutler (Reply 4):
The people tasked with containing that disaster had to know that they were facing certain death - such bravery.

I agree. The captions in the video say they had no idea what they were getting into, but the looks on their faces say otherwise. They knew they wouldn't make it out alive, at least for very long. It's the reason why they didn't even bother wearing the surgical/gas masks they were given.... they knew it wouldn't help any.


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RE: Chernobyl: The Lost Film

Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:25 am

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 3):
Wow, crazy stuff, what an amazing video. Brings back the memories of going there 3 years ago with a couple of other Airliners.net users.

quite surreal seeing the soldiers running about, and knowing 25 years later we were stood in the same spot!
 
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RE: Chernobyl: The Lost Film

Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:35 pm

At the 5:55-6:05 mark looks like he films a bird flying and succombing to sickness and crashing into the structure. Maybe I'm seeing things.
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RE: Chernobyl: The Lost Film

Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:30 pm

There's an interesting blog a woman motorcyclist put together about the area. She occasionally rides through the ghost towns and areas surrounding Chernobyl. Although not the most professional website, her photos are amazing.

http://www.kiddofspeed.com/chernobyl-revisited/
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RE: Chernobyl: The Lost Film

Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:01 am

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 9):
There's an interesting blog a woman motorcyclist put together about the area. She occasionally rides through the ghost towns and areas surrounding Chernobyl. Although not the most professional website, her photos are amazing.

IIRC her story is bogus, she drives around in accessible area's and all the shots from inside the safety zone were taken on a tour just like a couple of us a.netters have taken a few years back.
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