Springbok747
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Dead Officer Issues 1000 Red Light Camera Tickets

Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:49 am

Baltimore police and transportation officials are trying to correct a problem with more than 1,000 red light camera citations that bear the signature of a police officer who is dead.

http://www.wbaltv.com/r-video/26825879/detail.html

Must be robocop!

So..how will the courts handle this one?
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seb146
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RE: Dead Officer Issues 1000 Red Light Camera Tickets

Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:49 am

Quoting Springbok747 (Thread starter):
how will the courts handle this one?

If they are smart, they will take a cue from CalTrans. They shut down the west bound (toll direction) of the Bay Bridge. Some people went through the toll plaza and turned around in the employee parking lot. Tickets were issued to those who did not pay but those people did not have to pay since they turned around and the bridge was closed.

Or, this officer will reach out from the great beyond and drag them off to the hoosgow....
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RE: Dead Officer Issues 1000 Red Light Camera Tickets

Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:29 am

Red light cameras are pretty much always operated by private concerns, as pure revenue-generating devices, with putative "safety improvements" being the cited benefit.

Use of police power by private concerns is wrong in any event. I say, shut 'em all down.
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RE: Dead Officer Issues 1000 Red Light Camera Tickets

Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:08 am

Quoting sccutler (Reply 2):
I say, shut 'em all down.

I live less then a mile from what used to be one of the most dangerous intersections in the entire US, and another mile from another intersection on the list. A few years ago, the City of Philadelphia installed these red light cameras, and there has been a huge decrease in traffic accidents and fatalities at these two intersections. The fact is, these cameras have made this stretch of roaf MUCH safer, and if their presence saves one life, they are worth their weight in gold.

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RE: Dead Officer Issues 1000 Red Light Camera Tickets

Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:36 am

Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 3):
The fact is, these cameras have made this stretch of roaf MUCH safer, and if their presence saves one life, they are worth their weight in gold.

I don't think that sccutler is arguing against red-light cameras themselves,but that they exist purely for the profit of the camera makers and to fill the city coffers.

There was a city in the Valley a couple of years ago that took down red-light cameras because they weren't generating enough revenue to pay for themselves. Take that as you will.
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RE: Dead Officer Issues 1000 Red Light Camera Tickets

Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:32 am

Here in Houston the citizens voted them out and the government has fought tooth and nail to find a way to keep them. The originators of the ballot initiative had to go to court to get the city government to obey the voters! They have their place but as been noted here in Houston, the guy who enters the intersection just as the light turns red is not the guy killing people, it's the guy who 2-3 seconds or more after the light has turned blows through the intersection that is a killing machine and deserves the ticket. I ride a motorcycle almost every day and I never ever pull into an intersection after waiting for a red light to change without checking in both directions and usually slow down upon coming up on a stale green and check both ways before entering.

As to the dead cop issuing the tickets, does it really matter who's name is on the ticket when it was originally produced by a machine?
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RE: Dead Officer Issues 1000 Red Light Camera Tickets

Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:22 pm

Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 3):
and if their presence saves one life, they are worth their weight in gold.

Numerous studies would prove otherwise.

http://www.motorists.org/red-light-cameras/increase-accidents

http://www.motorists.org/red-light-cameras/studies

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