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Dem Lawmaker-Get Bloody To Unions

Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:59 pm

Dem lawmaker on labor protests: 'Get a little bloody when necessary'

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Sometimes it's necessary to get out on the streets and "get a little bloody," a Massachusetts Democrat said Tuesday in reference to labor battles in Wisconsin.

Rep. Michael Capuano (D-Mass.) fired up a group of union members in Boston with a speech urging them to work down in the trenches to fend off limits to workers' rights like those proposed in Wisconsin.

"I’m proud to be here with people who understand that it’s more than just sending an email to get you going," Capuano said, according to the Dorchester Reporter. "Every once and awhile you need to get out on the streets and get a little bloody when necessary."



More and more bad rhetoric that is being used in the fight between taxpayers and the Democrats and their allies the Public Service Union's they are trying to protect. I hope the HOR censors Mr Capuano for his bad response. We will see if the Main Stream Media carries this today and condemns him like the tried to do in the Gifford's shooting to the right.
 
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:32 pm

This not end well for the unions.
 
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:56 pm

Quoting mham001 (Reply 1):
This not end well for the unions.



Well , they hold the final cards ... Strikes unrest and violence . Prepare for it ...especially if you live in concentrated areas and are reliant on unionized services. Unions really do have the ability to stop the country.. Obama knows it ,Rhambo Knows it ,Trumka knows it ,SEIU knows it... and so do we.
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:13 pm

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 2):
Unions really do have the ability to stop the country..

Mass firings and arrests, using whatever resources are available, are the only solution.
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:58 pm

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Sometimes it's necessary to get out on the streets and "get a little bloody," a Massachusetts Democrat said Tuesday in reference to labor battles in Wisconsin.


Rep. Michael Capuano (D-Mass.)


And here I thought in the aftermath of Tuscon we were supposed to refrain from using language that could incite violence in those that are supposedly less stable?
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:30 pm

Quoting windy95 (Thread starter):
between taxpayers and the Democrats

This is currently a political battle between Republican Lawmakers and Democrat Lawmakers. Both sides are Lawmakers and both have taken positions.

It's also a back room battle between people with a lot of money and people with a large union membership.

Between the two levels I believe that money will end up talking the loudest. There is a very large resource funding the Republicans.

That probably means that the Republicans will win this one.

But it does not mean it will be successful in future elections.

We'll see how it impacts the middle class in the 2012 and 2014 elections.
 
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Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:36 pm

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 5):
Democrat Lawmakers. Both sides are Lawmakers and both have taken positions.

Do you agree or not agree with Rep Capuano? Should they get bloody?
 
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:05 am

Quoting dxing (Reply 4):
And here I thought in the aftermath of Tuscon we were supposed to refrain from using language that could incite violence in those that are supposedly less stable?

Yeah I thought so myself. A.net is so partisan I doubt anyone will make much of a deal about it.
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:11 am

Quoting dxing (Reply 4):
And here I thought in the aftermath of Tuscon we were supposed to refrain from using language that could incite violence in those that are supposedly less stable?

I know!!!! (see below)

Quoting windy95 (Thread starter):
More and more bad rhetoric that is being used in the fight between taxpayers and the Democrats and their allies the Public Service Union's they are trying to protect. I hope the HOR censors Mr Capuano for his bad response. We will see if the Main Stream Media carries this today and condemns him like the tried to do in the Gifford's shooting to the right.
http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/ind...on-labor-protests-#comment-1784242

http://www.indystar.com/article/2011...ssey=tab|topnews|text|IndyStar.com

"...Cox sent out a message on his Twitter account saying that police should "use live ammunition" against the protesters.A staffer for the political news site Mother Jones sent a message back to the person, who was then only known by his online account name. Cox messaged back that the demonstrators were "political enemies" and "thugs."

"You're damned right I advocate deadly force," Cox wrote to the Mother Jones staffer


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Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:52 am

Quoting windy95 (Reply 6):
Do you agree or not agree with Rep Capuano? Should they get bloody?

As someone who has been there, it all depends.
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:57 am

Quoting johnboy (Reply 8):

"...Cox sent out a message on his Twitter account saying that police should "use live ammunition" against the protesters.A staffer for the political news site Mother Jones sent a message back to the person, who was then only known by his online account name. Cox messaged back that the demonstrators were "political enemies" and "thugs."

"You're damned right I advocate deadly force," Cox wrote to the Mother Jones staffer

And he was correctly fired within hours. Has Rep. Capuano been disciplined in any way? (slaps head) Of course not, he's a democrat.
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:03 am

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 10):
And he was correctly fired within hours.

Funny how that minor detail was not quoted from the linked article.
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:04 am

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 10):
And he was correctly fired within hours. Has Rep. Capuano been disciplined in any way? (slaps head) Of course not, he's a democrat.

JUST A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE IN WORDING, SHOOT TO KILL, VERSUS, MAYBE KNOCK HEADS.
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:05 am

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 9):
As someone who has been there, it all depends.

Are you freaking kidding me?? Just pay a 5-7% contribution toward their own retirement like the rest of us and this all goes away.
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:10 am

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 13):
Are you freaking kidding me?? Just pay a 5-7% contribution toward their own retirement like the rest of us and this all goes away.


[quote=WarRI1,reply=9]Quoting windy95 (Reply 6):
Do you agree or not agree with Rep Capuano? Should they get bloody?

As someone who has been there, it all depends.


What I said, what are You saying?
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:20 am

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 12):
JUST A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE IN WORDING, SHOOT TO KILL, VERSUS, MAYBE KNOCK HEADS.

No need to shout. To me, "getting bloody" does not limit anything, including deadly violence.
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:21 am

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 14):
What I said, what are You saying?

There is no "depends" here. No need for blood. Just pony up and make the contributions and quit griping. These are lean times. No more sympathy for this crap.
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:34 am

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 16):
There is no "depends" here. No need for blood. Just pony up and make the contributions and quit griping. These are lean times. No more sympathy for this crap.

You are rambling. Read the answer that I gave, try to understand the question and my answer. by the way, the Wisconsin unions agreed to give backs, but the Governor has another agenda, or had you not noticed. Get a grip.
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:57 am

Quoting windy95 (Reply 6):
Do you agree or not agree with Rep Capuano? Should they get bloody?

Literally, of course not. Metaphorically, that's a different thing. It was a bad choice of words on his part - if he had said "get out on the streets and get your hands dirty", I doubt this would be an issue.

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Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:02 am

Quoting johnboy (Reply 8):
"...Cox sent out a message on his Twitter account saying that police should "use live ammunition" against the protesters
Quoting johnboy (Reply 8):
"You're damned right I advocate deadly force," Cox wrote to the Mother Jones staffer
Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 15):
No need to shout. To me, "getting bloody" does not limit anything, including deadly violence.
Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 10):
(slaps head)

Maybe you'd better try it again. I don't think that first time worked.
 
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:01 pm

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 15):
Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 12):
JUST A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE IN WORDING, SHOOT TO KILL, VERSUS, MAYBE KNOCK HEADS.

No need to shout. To me, "getting bloody" does not limit anything, including deadly violence.

I did not mean it that way. I was trying to emphasise the point. My error. I agree about the violence part, although I have had it used on me during strikes.
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:15 pm

Thread title: Dem Lawmaker-Get Bloody To Unions
Minor point, but the title's a tad misleading. IMHO, it should read Dem Lawmaker To Unions - Get Bloody or Dem Lawmaker Says "Get Bloody" To Unions

Quoting dxing (Reply 4):
Rep. Michael Capuano (D-Mass.)


And here I thought in the aftermath of Tuscon we were supposed to refrain from using language that could incite violence in those that are supposedly less stable?

  

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 5):
Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 9):

With all due respect, both of you are completely missing the point here. Yes, there have been and always will be heated debates among legislators, regardless of political affiliation and stances as well as arguments w/union heads. However, in the wake of last month's shooting in Tuscon, where 6 people were killed (including a 9-year old girl) because of one's 3 to 4 year vendetta against Rep. Giffords; is it really a good idea to use such language?

It's almost similar to somebody saying, "Let's smash an airplane on someone's home." post-9/11. Side note: somebody attempted to do that near the White House (w/a single-engined Cessna) during the Clinton Administration.

Quoting windy95 (Thread starter):
We will see if the Main Stream Media carries this today and condemns him like the tried to do in the Gifford's shooting to the right.

Which quickly fell apart when it was discovered that the shooter's vendetta against Giffords PREDATED the Tea Party movement and was well before anyone outside of Alaska even heard of Sarah Palin.

BTW, The Boston Herald DID pick up the story this morning in which Rep. Capuano now regretted his remarks:
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/politics/view.bg?articleid=1318955
Exerpt (1st two paragraphs):
U.S. Rep. Michael Capuano expressed regret Wednesday for his choice of words at a Tuesday rally to support Wisconsin workers, after national and local Republicans pounced on him for “over-the-top and inflammatory rhetoric.”

“Congressman Mike Capuano must have lost the memo from President Obama and Democratic leaders who were demanding more civility in our political discourse and a toning down of incendiary rhetoric after the massacre in Tucson on January 8,” the Massachusetts Republican Party wrote in a Wednesday statement. “Yesterday, at a rally on Beacon Hill, Capuano couldn’t resist the urge to stir up a crowd of union members with a call for blood in the pursuit and protection of their political agenda.”


It's too bad that Mass. is only losing ONE Congressional seat during the upcoming redistricting process.

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Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:26 pm

Quoting windy95 (Thread starter):
More and more bad rhetoric

I agree. I condemn these words.

Quoting windy95 (Thread starter):
We will see if the Main Stream Media carries this today

No, because this guy is an unknown outside of Massachusetts.

You didn't post a source for this quote, but I suspect it's not from a well known source (unless it's Fox News), but rather a source that tries to dig up anything it can possibly find to make the false equivalency that Democrats occasionally cross the line that Republicans cross daily.
 
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Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:18 pm

He has apologized:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...apologizes-for-get-bloody-comment/


Now let's see how long this dead horse gets beaten.
 
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RE: Dem Lawmaker-Get Bloody To Unions

Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:26 am

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 21):
With all due respect, both of you are completely missing the point here. Yes, there have been and always will be heated debates among legislators, regardless of political affiliation and stances as well as arguments w/union heads. However, in the wake of last month's shooting in Tuscon, where 6 people were killed (including a 9-year old girl) because of one's 3 to 4 year vendetta against Rep. Giffords; is it really a good idea to use such language?

I can see your point. I was not advocating violence. When I said it "depends", I meant, when someone uses violence against you, you tend to defend yourself. Violence does occur on picket lines, during demonstrations etc.
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RE: Dem Lawmaker-Get Bloody To Unions

Fri Feb 25, 2011 3:39 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 23):
Now let's see how long this dead horse gets beaten.

Hopefully not as long as the Bush-bashings   

No for real, making a big deal of this is silly, just like the big deal about "the right wing media inciting violence" was silly
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