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Glenn Beck Compares Reform Jews To Radical Islam

Fri Feb 25, 2011 3:25 am

....because they tend be Democrats...

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/w.../2011/02/22/beck_soros_reform_jews

"When you talk about rabbis, understand that most people who are not Jewish don't understand that there are the Orthodox rabbis and then there are the Reformed (sic) rabbis. Reformed rabbis are generally political in nature. It's almost like Islam - radicalized Islam - in a way to where radicalized Islam is less about religion than it is about politics."

Restoring honor indeed.... Pretty ironic coming from Glenn Beck... who has tried harder recently to politicize religion?

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RE: Glenn Beck Compares Reform Jews To Radical Islam

Fri Feb 25, 2011 3:41 am

Quoting jpetekyxmd80 (Thread starter):
Glenn Beck, could you be more of an idiot if you tried ?

  

I almost ended up being an intern for him. CNN had assigned me to his show before learning that my schedule wasn't compatible. I'm glad they didn't. They put me with Lou Dobbs instead. At least Dobbs isn't that crazy.
 
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RE: Glenn Beck Compares Reform Jews To Radical Islam

Fri Feb 25, 2011 3:48 am

Not defending him or anything, and I didn't read too far into this article, but I always take articles like these with a grain of salt. The article says:

Glenn Beck said something stupid about Jewish people, today. Just FYI. On his radio program, while discussing George Soros, Beck says Reform Judaism is "almost like" "radicalized Islam."

OK yeah that sounds really bad. Then the article rambles on about other stuff. But they fail to put it into context:

It's not about terror or anything else, it's about politics, and so it becomes more about politics than it does about faith.

OK well now we realize he's not talking about terrorism. Thanks for pointing that out article!!!

You gotta be careful with these articles, for both sides. I see the quote you put up has better context but the article you cite is very misleading IMO. Once again, I do not agree with what he said, but tired of misleading quoting from random articles.
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RE: Glenn Beck Compares Reform Jews To Radical Islam

Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:07 am

You're right, its been hard to find a good source trying to be an actual news story on this, so i suggest people just listen to the clip and decide for themselves.

For whats its worth, it seems he's (finally) ruffled some feathers in conservative circles.

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RE: Glenn Beck Compares Reform Jews To Radical Islam

Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:13 am

Quoting jpetekyxmd80 (Reply 3):
You're right, its been hard to find a good source trying to be an actual news story on this, so i suggest people just listen to the clip and decide for themselves.

Fair enough, I'm quite busy now and don't have time to listen (I'd probably agree with you anyway lol.) I've just learned to be very careful with selective quoting  
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RE: Glenn Beck Compares Reform Jews To Radical Islam

Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:31 am

Ok, I'm calling it:

Next week's Daily Show will have a segment on this, and it will include the "Go F*ck Yourself" gospel choir.  

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RE: Glenn Beck Compares Reform Jews To Radical Islam

Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:06 am

I just got done posting about Glenn Beck and I don't feel like copying it all to this thread but I think you should take a look at this other thread. The good stuff starts at Reply 37 and goes on from there. You can watch several videos of Beck flat out lying and being called out for it!

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RE: Glenn Beck Compares Reform Jews To Radical Islam

Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:43 am

When he first made his move to Fox he admited that he was an "expert at nothing" and was doing what he had to do "purely as an ENTERTAINER".
O.K. same as Limbaugh.

They are entertainers. Nothing more. Forgettaboutit.
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:55 am

Quoting ImperialEagle (Reply 7):
When he first made his move to Fox he admited that he was an "expert at nothing" and was doing what he had to do "purely as an ENTERTAINER".
O.K. same as Limbaugh.

They are entertainers. Nothing more. Forgettaboutit.

"Entertainers" who vilify, incite hatred, promote lies, drive division of society and do so with an obvious agenda to support a specific political party whilst all the time working for a News Network presenting itself as factual are enemies of society and of the truth. "I'm just an 'Entertainer'" would have been unlikely as a defense to save Joseph Goebbels.
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:17 pm

Quoting ozglobal (Reply 8):
"Entertainers" who vilify, incite hatred, promote lies, drive division of society and do so with an obvious agenda to support a specific political party whilst all the time working for a News Network presenting itself as factual are enemies of society and of the truth. "I'm just an 'Entertainer'" would have been unlikely as a defense to save Joseph Goebbels.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_...bbels

Totally agree, it is just sad and dangerous because there are far too many people, even influential people, who take his word as fact.
 
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RE: Glenn Beck Compares Reform Jews To Radical Islam

Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:38 pm

Quoting ozglobal (Reply 8):
"Entertainers" who vilify, incite hatred, promote lies, drive division of society

Ah, yes you are so right, BUT if society didn't support them they wouldn't have a job.
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RE: Glenn Beck Compares Reform Jews To Radical Islam

Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:51 pm

Quoting ImperialEagle (Reply 10):
Quoting ozglobal (Reply 8):
"Entertainers" who vilify, incite hatred, promote lies, drive division of society

Ah, yes you are so right, BUT if society didn't support them they wouldn't have a job.

If your point is that if huge slices of the American public support such figures, they deserve them; you'll have no argument from me. The question rather is how far should this toxic propaganda machine of interests like GOP/Fox/Beck and poisonous manipulation be allowed to go in a democracy? In 1935-38, many said the same about the rise of National Socialism in Germany,"if society didn't support them they wouldn't have a job." Is free speech the only value to be considered?

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Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:14 pm

Quoting ozglobal (Reply 11):
Is free speech the only value to be considered

That is THE question isn't it? I know exactly what you are saying. I wish I had the answers.
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RE: Glenn Beck Compares Reform Jews To Radical Islam

Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:21 pm

Quoting ozglobal (Reply 11):
Is free speech the only value to be considered?



It is a huge issue, in Colombia it seems some how that the press has now more power than judges, what ever they say is taken as truth by many and if judges think differently many times public opinion sides towards the press and see judges as corrupt. Not that judges are not corrupt in many cases and not that the press is correct in many others, but the power of free speech is getting to a point that it is moving societies to think just like the press wants them to.
 
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RE: Glenn Beck Compares Reform Jews To Radical Islam

Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:25 pm

Awaiting the apology from FOX amid fears of smackdown from numerous Jewish-run ad agencies and sponsors in 3-2-1...
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RE: Glenn Beck Compares Reform Jews To Radical Islam

Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:55 pm

Quoting jpetekyxmd80 (Thread starter):
Glenn Beck, could you be more of an idiot if you tried ?


It is amazing to me that 99% of the criticism of a "conservatives" (Beck/Limbaugh/Hannity/etc) that is brought up on a.net has some "left wing" web site as the source.

Why don't liberals listen the the actual program rather than get there information second or third hand.

I don't have to read the a right wing web site to know when a liberal says something stupid (I know the police acted stupidly/we have to pass the bill to know what's in it/come on stand up Chuck) I head them say it myself.
 
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RE: Glenn Beck Compares Reform Jews To Radical Islam

Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:05 pm

Quoting 474218 (Reply 15):

It is amazing to me that 99% of the criticism of a "conservatives" (Beck/Limbaugh/Hannity/etc) that is brought up on a.net has some "left wing" web site as the source.

OK, how about the leading Israeli newspaper?

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/...ls-fox-to-fire-glenn-beck-1.337361

The Anti-Defamation League has had Beck on their radar for quite awhile now. Nobody survives their scrutiny - this dude was smart to apologize quickly.
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RE: Glenn Beck Compares Reform Jews To Radical Islam

Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:16 pm

Just off on a tangent here guys.

Are all of the news networks in the U.S. biased to either the left or the right wing? Are there any neutral networks who just report the facts without a slant one way or the other?

Our newspapers are on the whole biased but at least I can rely on BBC and ITV news to be impartial, just give me the facts not propaganda. I do take a broadsheet that leans toward my own political preference occasionally but it's always in the back of my mind that there is an agenda in what I'm reading even if I agree with it.

If you have no neutral televised news outlet how far can you trust that what you're seeing reported is the truth?
 
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RE: Glenn Beck Compares Reform Jews To Radical Islam

Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:27 pm

Quoting GBLKD (Reply 17):
Are there any neutral networks who just report the facts without a slant one way or the other?

Yes, but they're not American. Even the "public" network funded by federal monies, PBS, is left-leaning. If you want impartial straight-facts news in America, you need to subscribe to the BBC or NHK World.
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RE: Glenn Beck Compares Reform Jews To Radical Islam

Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:24 pm

Quoting GBLKD (Reply 17):
Are all of the news networks in the U.S. biased to either the left or the right wing

Yes

Quoting GBLKD (Reply 17):
Are there any neutral networks who just report the facts without a slant one way or the other?

No.

Quoting GBLKD (Reply 17):
If you have no neutral televised news outlet how far can you trust that what you're seeing reported is the truth?

We can't.
The left only wants to hear what sounds good to them. The right only wants to hear what sounds good to them.
I get on the internet and read a dozen or so information outlets before I can begin to figure out what the "real" story might be.
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RE: Glenn Beck Compares Reform Jews To Radical Islam

Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:00 pm

Quoting GBLKD (Reply 17):
Are there any neutral networks who just report the facts without a slant one way or the other?

I actually use a.net as my news source... it doesn't swing far right or far left... if swings far both directions 
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Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:37 pm

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 2):

It's not about terror or anything else, it's about politics, and so it becomes more about politics than it does about faith.

Except it isn't. I know Reform Rabbis who are vehement Republicans and Conservatives and Reform Rabbis who make me look like Dreadnought.

Beck seems to have a serious issue with antisemitism. He tries to hide it, but it's the slips of the tongue that keep betraying him. First accusing a Jew of being a Nazi and now this.

Quoting ImperialEagle (Reply 7):
When he first made his move to Fox he admited that he was an "expert at nothing" and was doing what he had to do "purely as an ENTERTAINER".
O.K. same as Limbaugh.

They are entertainers. Nothing more. Forgettaboutit.

No, and I get sick and tired of them passing themselves off as "we're just entertainers, so we're not accountable for anything we say!"

BULLSHIZZLE.

John Daly, one of the few "pundits" I actually respect, is typically very careful to base his scathing and hilarious diatribes in actual fact and reason. He is truly an entertainer.

Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh get on the air and start talking about real news and current events and THEN THEY PRESENT THEIR VIEWS AS THE TRUTH. So for them to defend themselves as "Oh, I'm just an entertainer" is a weak and unacceptable excuse.

Antisemitism is not entertaining. Homophobia is not entertaining. And hypocrisy (something about Rush and wanting drug addicts to be "sent up the river" and then an OxyContin issue, for which he gladly accepted the ACLU's help) is DEFINITELY not entertaining.
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RE: Glenn Beck Compares Reform Jews To Radical Islam

Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:19 am

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 20):
I actually use a.net as my news source... it doesn't swing far right or far left... if swings far both directions

  

Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 6):
I just got done posting about Glenn Beck and I don't feel like copying it all to this thread but I think you should take a look at this other thread. The good stuff starts at Reply 37 and goes on from there. You can watch several videos of Beck flat out lying and being called out for it!

Here's a funny clip I found a while back. He was discussing a writer working on a biography of Sarah Palin who purchased a home next door to her. He then discussed the fact that politicians underaged children (I point about which I agree) should be off limits, and he talks about how he and others on the right refrained from criticizing Chelsea Clinton when she was growing up in the White House. It then cuts to his show a few days later where he's bashing Obama's daughters and calls one of them either dumb or stupid (it's been a while since I watche this). Funny stuff!
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Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:19 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 21):
No, and I get sick and tired of them passing themselves off as "we're just entertainers, so we're not accountable for anything we say!"


They are not "entertainers".

They are "commentators", they are stating their opinion.

There are many liberal "commentators" (Schultz/Malloy/Combs/etc) however no one ever comments on the outlandish things they say. Mainly because no one listens to them.
 
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RE: Glenn Beck Compares Reform Jews To Radical Islam

Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:31 am

Quoting 474218 (Reply 23):
They are "commentators", they are stating their opinion.

No they are a hybrid of the two. When someone like Charles Krauthammer, Ed Rollins, Peggy Noonan, or Paul Begala get on TV - they do it do present expert politican opinion that is measured and professional. Probably because they intend to be taken seriously. If you compare their manner of delivery and depth of substantive knowledge to someone like Beck, Hannity, or Olbermann, there are chasms between them.
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Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:34 am

Quote:
There are many liberal "commentators" (Schultz/Malloy/Combs/etc) however no one ever comments on the outlandish things they say. Mainly because no one listens to them.

None of these commentators say the kinds of things Glenn Beck says. None of them.

It is time that Fox News pulled the plug on him. He may be a goldmine for easily-led xenophobic automatons, but he's a dangerous man who is best compared to Father Coughlin.
 
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RE: Glenn Beck Compares Reform Jews To Radical Islam

Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:21 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 21):
No, and I get sick and tired of them passing themselves off as "we're just entertainers, so we're not accountable for anything we say!"

BULLSHIZZLE.

   I've you've got a show on a news network, you don't get a free pass on everything just by calling yourself a commentator. You get a pass on not presenting a balanced viewpoint, but you don't get a pass on lazy fact-checking or outright lying, and you don't get a pass on racist/sexist/antisemitic/etc. comments.

Quoting 474218 (Reply 23):
They are not "entertainers".

They are "commentators", they are stating their opinion.

If Glenn Beck were as emotional in real life as he is on television, he wouldn't be able to get out of the house in the morning. It's a persona, put on for the purpose of increasing ratings. And it works. But it's more entertainment than commentary.

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RE: Glenn Beck Compares Reform Jews To Radical Islam

Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:13 am

Quoting 474218 (Reply 23):

They are "commentators", they are stating their opinion.

Opinion is an interpretation of facts.

Beck wouldn't know a fact if it got into bed with him. Beck outright LIES on TV and when caught at it, denies it. That ain't entertainment.
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Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:18 am

Quoting OA412 (Reply 22):
Here's a funny clip I found a while back. He was discussing a writer working on a biography of Sarah Palin who purchased a home next door to her. He then discussed the fact that politicians underaged children (I point about which I agree) should be off limits, and he talks about how he and others on the right refrained from criticizing Chelsea Clinton when she was growing up in the White House. It then cuts to his show a few days later where he's bashing Obama's daughters and calls one of them either dumb or stupid (it's been a while since I watche this). Funny stuff!

There is a youtube clip (I think I might have posted it in the other thread) of Glenn Beck crying and talking about 9-11 and how much he hurts for the families of those who died and continues to go on and on and cry more and more on the anniversary, then it cuts to a show on a different day where he says, and I quote, "I hate the 9/11 families"! Not only a complete turn around but also just a completely disgraceful thing to say.
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RE: Glenn Beck Compares Reform Jews To Radical Islam

Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:34 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 27):
Beck outright LIES
Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 28):
Glenn Beck crying

He's quite the actor. It's all about the money. It always has been all about the money.
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RE: Glenn Beck Compares Reform Jews To Radical Islam

Sat Feb 26, 2011 6:03 pm

Quoting ImperialEagle (Reply 29):

He's quite the actor. It's all about the money. It always has been all about the money.

Believe it or not, inciting revolution is a crime. I don't know if anyone has been tried on such a crime, but I would say that telling lies about the government to get people worked up could be construed as such.

Of course, as long as the GOP thinks Beck is their friend, such a case could never move forward.
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