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Ucla Student's Racist Rant - Punishment?

Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:19 am

Apparently the brass at UCLA are unsure of how to handle a rather incendiary video posted by a frustrated bimbo, who has apparently capitalized on the tsunami disaster to bring herself attention, for better or worse. Thing is, I don't really see how they can punish her, as I doubt "making an ass of oneself on YouTube" is part of the UCLA code of conduct.

In any case, a stupefying example of living up to the bimbo stereotype, though she got one point from the vocabulary judge for using "epiphany". WTF though, should CA taxpayers have to continue picking up the tab for her education??

Officials at the University of California, Los Angeles, are evaluating what to do about a white student who posted a video on YouTube mocking her fellow Asian classmates and criticizing them for calling family members in the library following the tsunami.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...2011/03/14/national/a190910D33.DTL

Her parade of ignorant commentary can be seen here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoLLEZlpUxk
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:35 am

Send her to Bob Jones University as punishment.
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:59 am

What is that bimbo doing anywhere near a university library?   
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:11 am

She has the right to say whatever she wants to say, and she has a point about people being on their phones in the library. Furthermore, I want to see her boobs.
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:22 am

Quoting Airtran737 (Reply 3):
Furthermore, I want to see her boobs.

Do you know that feeling when someone is trying to make a point, but the only thing he does make is a fool of himself?
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:41 am

I'm not even sure punishing her will be necessary. Her shots of getting a legitimate career just went down in flames after this little rant. She's proved to all the internets that she's a self-important, racist, xenophobic bitch. Since she's passing out judgment, so will I--she strikes me as the type that goes to college on daddy's money, is always "there for the party" but never for class...etc. You know the type--the one that if you ask their major, they invariably say "yah, I'm pre-med" or "pre-law," but don't ever amount to anything more than an LPN or paralegal (if that much).

If anything I think this earthquake and tsunami has really shown how great and strong the Japanese people really are at their core. There's no looting, no rioting. Heartbreaking activities are done orderly and with the same care with which they are done even in the best of times. They put SOME of the victims of Katrina to shame, that's for sure.
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:42 am

I thought UCLA was for smart students. How the hell did she get in?
Given the demographics and left-leaning nature of West LA (where UCLA is located), how can she even show her face in public after airing this?
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:58 am

There is no doubt that there is a lot of abusive, inappropriate and rude use of mobile phones and in the case of this woman, she may observe that there may be a disproportionate rude use of them by certain identifiable groups of people. Some of the students she did complain about may be trying to understandably deal with a terrible crises and are desperate to find information from friends, family and believe their needs are far more important than the quiet enjoyment of the library by others. What if the group of students she was complaining about were those from the Middle Eastern countries where major uprisings against the leaders there are taking place and a thirst of direct information as to what is going on?

The problem with her very open rant and poor choice of words is that many Colleges do not want to make any group uncomfortable to be there. They may need the revenues from such students, especially those from outside the country as well as prevent confrontations between students which can be detrimental to the entire school. If she had made her point by noting that a wide range of students are using cell phones in the library in violation of college rules but without the poor choice of words, then the school wouldn't have to consider how to punish her. A comment in the article also noted that by making such a public and offensive statement, she may have badly hurt her future employment opportunities.

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Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:00 am

Quoting aloges (Reply 4):
Do you know that feeling when someone is trying to make a point, but the only thing he does make is a fool of himself?

Do you know what sarcasm is, and someone not giving a damn?
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:54 pm

As far as I'm concerned, the joke's on her. Think about the sheer number of people who immediately peg her as a dumb, ditzy blond incapable of harboring the intelligence to attend a school such as UCLA. Funny how stereotypes work. Besides, it's no secret that Asians make up just over 1/3 of the student body at UCLA. Perhaps she should have chosen to attend a different school.

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Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:09 pm

Quoting OA412 (Reply 9):
As far as I'm concerned, the joke's on her. Think about the sheer number of people who immediately peg her as a dumb, ditzy blond incapable of harboring the intelligence to attend a school such as UCLA. Funny how stereotypes work. Besides, it's no secret that Asians make up just over 1/3 of the student body at UCLA. Perhaps she should have chosen to attend a different school.

  
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:14 pm

What a dumb moron, I saw half of that rant and immediately felt dumber. She should do herself a favor and try not to stereotype other people, when she herself is a walking stereotype (Dumb Ditzy blonde girl with big tits). She's even dumber now because guaranteed everyone probably hates her on campus right now, except for maybe the other few...very few dumb ditzy blonde girls on campus.

Quoting Airtran737 (Reply 3):
She has the right to say whatever she wants to say, and she has a point about people being on their phones in the library. Furthermore, I want to see her boobs.

If that's the case...complain to the library workers, that's what they're there for. Furthermore, maybe she could have built up a little courage and gone over to the Asian people and asked them to please take their conversations outside. Indeed she has a right to say whatever she wants, but let's see how that works out when she needs a job in future. Stuff like this doesn't go away. Hey, maybe she'll join the jersey shore and everything will be alright, god knows she'd fit right in.
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:29 pm

Quoting Aaron747 (Thread starter):
Thing is, I don't really see how they can punish her, as I doubt "making an ass of oneself on YouTube" is part of the UCLA code of conduct.

They can't punish her for it, but they don't have to - society will take care of that. They should just stick with speaking out against her comments.

Quoting OA412 (Reply 9):
Besides, it's no secret that Asians make up just over 1/3 of the student body at UCLA.

And I'd venture that at least half of them have never lived in any other country.

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Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:37 pm

Quoting Mir (Reply 13):
I'd venture that at least half of them have never lived in any other country.

  
Not sure what Ms. Wallace's ethnicity is but it's possible that some of the Chinese student's family has been in the US longer than her's.
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:06 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
I thought UCLA was for smart students. How the hell did she get in?

Her grades may have been mediocre B's, but I'm sure it was the D's that did it for her admissions.
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RE: Ucla Student's Racist Rant - Punishment?

Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:00 pm

Quoting Airtran737 (Reply 8):
Do you know what sarcasm is, and someone not giving a damn?

Actually I thought that was a funny line. I'm in the group that assumes her boobs have to be better than her brain.

As for punishment - she has permanently branded herself in public. There will be some like minded idiots who will support her, but her ignorance is far too public for her to live a normal life for years to come.
 
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:10 pm

Quoting aloges (Reply 2):
What is that bimbo doing anywhere near a university library?
Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
I thought UCLA was for smart students. How the hell did she get in?
Given the demographics and left-leaning nature of West LA (where UCLA is located), how can she even show her face in public after airing this?

My thoughts exactly guys. Another classic example of the "Dumbing Down" of America.

I can only hope there aren't too many more examples of this airhead in our halls of higher learning.
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:48 pm

hot and dumb just the way I like em....

Quoting aloges (Reply 2):
What is that bimbo doing anywhere near a university library?

LOL

Quoting Airtran737 (Reply 3):
Furthermore, I want to see her boobs.

  
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:59 pm

I don't really see what the University can do to punish her - she was speaking her mind, and even if what she was saying was hideous, she is entitled to express those hideous thoughts. Likewise, the general public is also entitled to think she is an ugly human being, and certainly entitled to express to her those sentiments.

Quoting Mir (Reply 13):
And I'd venture that at least half of them have never lived in any other country.

Yes, I wouldn't be surprised if most were at least second-generation immigrants, or immigrated to the US when they were fairly young.
 
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:06 pm

Pretty stupid rant, but the schools responsibility to do something? Please. This ranks so low in the "racism" genre, it's not even worth mentioning. Ironically, Asians are about the most racist group of people anybody is ever going to meet. They look down on everybody, especially other types of Asians and some more so than others.

Before all the knees jerk, I've been living with and married to Asians for many years. Love 'em, but it is the truth. Unfortunately, race differences cannot be discussed rationally without being called a racist.
 
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:18 pm

Quoting mham001 (Reply 20):
Unfortunately, race differences cannot be discussed rationally without being called a racist.

Especially if you are comparing NASCAR to F1.     

Quoting Airtran737 (Reply 3):
I want to see her boobs.

     

People, if you dont like what she says, dont watch it. Dont punish her just dont watch. Deal with it.

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RE: Ucla Student's Racist Rant - Punishment?

Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:20 pm

Quoting mham001 (Reply 20):
Asians are about the most racist group of people anybody is ever going to meet.

They are, but it's symptomatic of lack of exposure and/or true ignorance. There's a big difference between that and "ching chong ting long".

Quoting aloges (Reply 2):
What is that bimbo doing anywhere near a university library?

LOL
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:25 pm

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 16):
but her ignorance is far too public for her to live a normal life for years to come.

I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one. I highly doubt anyone could pick her out of a lineup. I know I sure couldn't and I only watched the video an hour ago. That being said, she might get a little extra attention on the UCLA campus, but that'll pass soon enough.

Mind you, I wasn't exactly paying a whole lot of attention to her face.......
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:26 pm

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 22):
They are, but it's symptomatic of lack of exposure and/or true ignorance.

Oh no, it's far more than that. It extends to very well educated born-in-America Asians as well. I have seen it fist hand. It just isn't often seen in public as they are a more private people.

And that is the crux of it. Everybody harbors racist views, some more than others, we are just trained now to keep them to ourselves. I find those who are so quick to point the racism finger are probably among the worst in the latent-racism camp.
 
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:59 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
UCLA was for smart students

Have you been to the UCLA campus lately ?

Quoting Mir (Reply 13):
They can't punish her for it, but they don't have to - society will take care of that

Nobody will remember nor care.

But I wonder why someone who complains about cell phone use, if that was part of her point, is posting a video on Youtube. Very strange.
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:39 pm

Quoting IMissPiedmont (Reply 25):
Nobody will remember nor care.

Maybe. It's safe to say that a lot of people won't care, but her name is out there for the Googling by prospective employers down the road, and some might choose to hold it against her. If it were me, I probably wouldn't if she showed that she had learned the error of her ways (and apologizing isn't enough - she needs to get out in the community and do some work against intolerance and racism - but it is a good start). After all, doing stupid stuff in college is not something unique to her.

As much as I feel weird about defending her, she's apparently gotten death threats, which is completely over the line: http://www.dailybruin.com/index.php/..._death_threats_violent_responses_c

As far as I'm concerned, threats against her life are worse than the comments she made, and the people who made them are the ones who should be punished.

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Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:49 pm

Quoting IMissPiedmont (Reply 25):
Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
UCLA was for smart students

Have you been to the UCLA campus lately ?

Yes... Your point? UCLA is still the hardest school in the UC system to get into, tied with maybe UCSD. My girlfriend's sister, who will be graduating from high school this year with a 4.3 GPA, a high SAT score, and tons of extracurricular activities just got denied to UCLA. I have no idea why- it's mystifying to me.

Now granted, its LA, so of course there are the trust fund babies and kids like that, but overall, I don't think UCLA is full of dumb students (if that's what you're implying).
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:12 pm

Quoting san747 (Reply 27):
tied with maybe UCSD.

UCSD??? Try Berkeley.

She may sound stupid but she isn't much different than most 19 year olds in college. Most of us weren't that much different at that age.
 
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:35 pm

This video is a good response to her dumb remarks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBNKTdUQoTU&feature=related

Quoting Mir (Reply 26):
As much as I feel weird about defending her, she's apparently gotten death threats, which is completely over the line:

Well if you utter racial slurs and piss off the entire campus thats what happens.....

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Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:43 pm

Quoting mham001 (Reply 28):
She may sound stupid but she isn't much different than most 19 year olds in college. Most of us weren't that much different at that age.

Yes, but most of us had the maturity to keep it to ourselves and not go around posting it on the internet. What a stupid, ignorant, bigoted bimbo..giving smart blonds all over a bad name (yes there are some smart ones..like the girl at my university who topped med school this year..pretty smart and hot..too bad she already has an idiotic boyfriend, but that's another topic..)

And..WTF are "American manners"?!
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:55 pm

Quoting aloges (Reply 2):
What is that bimbo doing anywhere near a university library?

she was banging on the keyboard like a chimpanze! BTW: any attempt to compare this bimbo to a chimpanzee, would be an offense to a chimpanzee.
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:02 pm

Quoting MattRB (Reply 15):

Hahaha  
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:54 pm

Quoting alberchico (Reply 29):
Well if you utter racial slurs

I had to go back and suffer through the entire video again, but I did not hear any "racial slur". What exactly was the racial slur? If you are referring to her attempt at speaking Chinese, I thought is a fair imitation. Are we saying Chinese language does not sound like that? I lived with Chinese for years. Sounded like Chinese to me...and I didn't even hear a disparaging tone there....Is that now racism too?

Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 30):
What a stupid, ignorant, bigoted bimbo

Stupid? Actually, probably not. You really don't get into UCLA stupid. Even with connections. And stupid people don't spend their time in libraries studying Political Science.

Ignorant, probably yes because of her complaints about doting parents on weekends in her complex. That is an Asian cultural thing, they dote on their kids far longer than American parents do. I think her only complaint was about overcrowding. I have the same complaint with one of my neighbors. Is it incorrect to talk about it?

Bigoted? No, in fact you might want to look up the definition of bigot and then look in the mirror. "Bigot: a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own"

Bimbo? Could be, although I don't find her attractive. Foolish yes, goes with immaturity. "A physically attractive woman who lacks intelligence; a stupid or a foolish person"

Quoting varigb707 (Reply 31):
she was banging on the keyboard like a chimpanze!

You see, that is an insult far beyond anything I heard her in that video. I hope your chin doesn't hurt from the kneejerk.

You also might want to investigate the definition of racism. Here's a start "the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races"

I didn't hear anything about superiority, did you?
 
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:13 pm

Quoting mham001 (Reply 33):
"Bigot: a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own"


 A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs.

Clearly she is bigoted. She is prejudiced against Asians and their mannerisms (especially taking on the phone, and how their parents look after them). And yes. She is intolerant of any opinions differing from her own, you can clearly see it in her rant.

Quoting mham001 (Reply 33):
I didn't hear anything about superiority, did you?

ffs are you deaf? Her whole rant was filled with how disgusting Asians are and how she is brought up with "American values"..the very fact she mentioned that implies she thinks she is superior than "the Asians". Also the bit about "Old Asian parents running around the apartment complex every weekend"..and how THEY don't teach their kids to be independent..which again implies that SHE is independent and by default, superior than those people.

So yes, she is an ignorant, stupid, racist bigoted b*tch.
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:14 pm

Quoting Aaron747 (Thread starter):
Apparently the brass at UCLA are unsure of how to handle a rather incendiary video posted by a frustrated bimbo, who has apparently capitalized on the tsunami disaster to bring herself attention, for better or worse. Thing is, I don't really see how they can punish her, as I doubt "making an ass of oneself on YouTube" is part of the UCLA code of conduct.

UCLA has a non-discrimination policy and a non-harrassment policy, no? Maybe they could use those?

Either that or they could just let her continue to attend classes. I'm quite sure that her days of popularity are over. Her college experience is about to suck.  
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:25 pm

She mentions her own Asian friends. I hear her rant about some Asians. She can't be bigoted towards an entire race if she is friends with them, can she?

BTW, THIS is racist. Of course, the only reason anybody picked up on the UCLA video is because a white girl did it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4zbwWMqTS4&feature=related

Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 34):
ffs are you deaf? Her whole rant was filled with how disgusting Asians are and how she is brought up with "American values"..the very fact she mentioned that implies she thinks she is superior than "the Asians". Also the bit about "Old Asian parents running around the apartment complex every weekend"..and how THEY don't teach their kids to be independent..which again implies that SHE is independent and by default, superior than those people.

I can see that a whole lot of people are trying to read way more into this than there is. Reading the comments on Youtube, a lot of Asians are saying the same thing.
 
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Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:59 pm

Quoting alberchico (Reply 29):
Well if you utter racial slurs and piss off the entire campus thats what happens.....

In a civilized society, there is no justification for death threats. I can perfectly understand people being pissed off with her (and she deserves that), but she didn't threaten anybody, and she doesn't deserve threats in return.

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Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:04 am

I read the complete thread before I watched the video. After all that, I was expecting to see something really nasty. But for me that never really happened. I got embarrassed by a few silly things she said, but that was about it.

As "mham001" stated above, this is only a big deal because a white girl did it. But some of her criticisms are justified or at least understandable.

It doesn't seem like there are many "Getting along with/ How not to offend Americans" preparatory courses for overseas students before they come to North America.

You have to be white to be a real, I mean real, racist...right?
 
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Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:24 am

Quoting ronglimeng (Reply 38):
You have to be white to be a real, I mean real, racist...right?

No.

But you do have to be blonde using "like" as common sentence filler, think you're the shiznit, and think spilling out of a cami is hot to qualify as a bimbo.
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Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:40 am

Freedom of speech and expression, maybe not said too well, but she may have a point, she does go to UCLA. I do not see anything world shaking, racist? She seems to be making a point about people, and public manners, not exactly polished these days. I can point to certain groups myself who are not too polished in public. Does that make me racist? Her manner of dress seems about right, look around, from 14 to 60 these days. Politically correct, who cares?
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Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:45 am

Quoting san747 (Reply 27):
UCLA is still the hardest school in the UC system to get into, tied with maybe UCSD.

UC Berkeley is the hardest of the UC system to get in to.

Quoting san747 (Reply 27):
Now granted, its LA, so of course there are the trust fund babies and kids like that

The trust fund kids go to USC.   

Quoting ronglimeng (Reply 38):
this is only a big deal because a white girl did it.

No, it's because a UCLA student did it. This is one of the most prestigious universities in the country with lots of smart people. People are wondering how someone so dumb slipped through the cracks.
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RE: Ucla Student's Racist Rant - Punishment?

Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:55 am

Quoting mham001 (Reply 20):
Unfortunately, race differences cannot be discussed rationally without being called a racist.

Maybe that's because it has actually no relation with race, only with culture ?
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RE: Ucla Student's Racist Rant - Punishment?

Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:56 am

Not sure what she's done wrong really - talking on the phone in a library is fucking annoying and frankly it is mainly asians that do it.

I was educated pre cell phones but my big issue then was people sleeping at (scarce) desks in the library - again invariably asians. Retribution was to slip an embarassing library bok into their bag which then set of the alarms when they left - 'The womanly art of breast-feeding' and 'Self love for self worth' being favourites.
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RE: Ucla Student's Racist Rant - Punishment?

Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:16 am

So I guess my question is:

How is this different from people like Daniel Tosh of Tosh.O fame who go on stage and pretty much air the same type of statements about every different ethnicity (and more)?

Is it different because he is a comedian?
Is it different because he in theory doesn't believe in what he says?

Is it different at all?

Just posing the question...
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RE: Ucla Student's Racist Rant - Punishment?

Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:23 am

Quoting Airportugal310 (Reply 44):
How is this different from people like Daniel Tosh of Tosh.O fame who go on stage and pretty much air the same type of statements about every different ethnicity (and more)?

Is it different because he is a comedian?
Is it different because he in theory doesn't believe in what he says?

Exactly, that is his job. Her job is a student, I don't see why she would take it upon herself to make a rant in such a public way
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RE: Ucla Student's Racist Rant - Punishment?

Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:14 am

Quoting mham001 (Reply 36):
She can't be bigoted towards an entire race if she is friends with them, can she?

Sure she can be. I see it all the time. To give you an example, there are plenty of posters on this site who are completely against any rights for gay men and women, disagree vehemently with the "gay lifestyle", and still claim to have several gay friends.

Quoting mham001 (Reply 36):
BTW, THIS is racist.

Yes it is. Are you expecting anyone to deny that it is? Why are you deflecting and trying to justify this idiots bigotry by trying to downplay it by bringing up an example of a black person shouting racial slurs? One doesn't cancel out the other, and one certainly doesn't justify the other.

Quoting mham001 (Reply 36):
Of course, the only reason anybody picked up on the UCLA video is because a white girl did it.

  Oh yes, the poor, down-trodden, white community. Give me a break!

Quoting mham001 (Reply 36):
Reading the comments on Youtube, a lot of Asians are saying the same thing.

Because I'm sure they live it every day. But, do you really not see the problem with the "ching chong" stereotype?
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RE: Ucla Student's Racist Rant - Punishment?

Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:30 am

Quoting mham001 (Reply 36):
She mentions her own Asian friends. I hear her rant about some Asians. She can't be bigoted towards an entire race if she is friends with them, can she?


I have often heard people make race based comments yet claim to have (insert racial group) friends. And the disparity is usually explained with, "Oh, they're different." It is indeed possible to know one or two individuals of a particular group while making adverse generalisations about the rest of the group. Her very language shows that. She doesn't say "some Asians" but "these hordes of Asians", despite her claim to having some Asian friends (although we have no way of knowing if that is true). The term "horde" is usually disapproving and suggests a lot more than one or two individuals.

If the problem is that people are on a cell phone, why is the racial group mentioned at all? Has there never been a single instance of non-Asians using a phone while in the library? We know that those who ignore the instruction to turn off phones on aircraft include all sorts, so can we conclude that it would be different in a library?

Nor is her issue confined to cell phones but extends to Asians having the temerity to visit their family. I thought family values were rated highly, but apparently not to the extent of family visits by Asians. And who, bye the way, are these Asians? Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese, ...they are all lumped together in an undistinguished mass.

In the meantime, I look forward to the great leap in our understanding of "political science" that her "epiphany" in the library will bring.
 
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RE: Ucla Student's Racist Rant - Punishment?

Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:36 am

Quoting mham001 (Reply 36):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4zbwWMqTS4&feature=related

Dude, that is a homeless, schizophrenic bum several fries short of a happy meal.
Hardly on par with a student of one of the world's elite universities.
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RE: Ucla Student's Racist Rant - Punishment?

Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:51 am

Quoting Airportugal310 (Reply 44):
How is this different from people like Daniel Tosh of Tosh.O fame who go on stage and pretty much air the same type of statements about every different ethnicity (and more)?

Is it different because he is a comedian?
Is it different because he in theory doesn't believe in what he says?

If you're an established comedian, you do get a wider latitude, because comedians are, in a sense, actors - they are portraying a persona, even if that persona closely mirrors the real-life version of themselves. That does have its limits, of course - if a comedian is giving a serious interview, he doesn't have the same latitude that he would have if he were doing a show.

And if you're not a comedian, the "I was just making a joke" line doesn't really work.

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