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Need Ideas For A Date

Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:39 pm

Feel free to roll your eyes.

Anyways, long story short, met a girl, we really clicked, more so than any other girl worth remembering in my mind, and she told me many times she would love to see me again. We already had a (too long IMO) lunch date, and we are supposed to meet again this weekend. However, I'm having a major hard time picking something fun to do. I want to include lunch/dinner somewhere in the day, but before that I want to dedicate some time to doing something fun together and create more opportunities for bonding/getting her hooked on me/crushing more on me/whatever you want to call it.

I'm currently living just outside of IAD, and she lives near DCA (Alexandria to be exact).

What I would really like to do is take her go-kart racing, as it has worked great with other girls. Not talking about the stupid 10mph kid ones, but the more serious 50mph racing karts. Problem is, the only decent place is kind of a drive from my place, and even more so for her. Also, it's really expensive, $20 for an 8 minute race, and to make it worthwhile you'd really need two races per person, so that's $80 right there, and I'm very broke at the moment.

Then I thought about stuff like mini-golf, bowling, paddle boating in the potomac, laser tag etc etc. But that all sounds extremely cliche and/or childish and unoriginal. Trying to stand out on her mind, ya know...

A no brainer being a pilot and very successful one I've used before is doing a $100 dinner flight, but as I said, I'm pretty much broke.

She mentioned she likes to see museums, and she hasn't been to the Udvar Hazy air and space museum yet, but I dunno if I really want to show her my extremely geeky side, and again, it's kind of far away for her. ( we try to do stuff mid way).

The last alternative which could be dangerously lame, is just dinner and then going to a bar afterwards, but it would have to be out by her as I don't know where the good bars are at, and it would look wimpy on my behalf to have her pick where and what to do.

Not sure how I'd describe her, she's somewhat of a tomboy with a girly side to her. Can curse like a sailor yet knows when to stay classy. She's very different than any other girl I've met, and we have a lot in common and think almost frighteningly the same.

So, any suggestions?

And yes yes, I'm stocking up on snow globes. 
 
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:48 pm

wow, and snowglobes were the first thing that came to mind!

Quoting Fly2HMO (Thread starter):
She mentioned she likes to see museums, and she hasn't been to the Udvar Hazy air and space museum yet, but I dunno if I really want to show her my extremely geeky side, and again, it's kind of far away for her. ( we try to do stuff mid way).

OK, you mentioned being tapped out a few times ($$) and she likes museums but you dont want her ull up into your geek side yet.

This seems like a no brainer for me.
Guy, with about a dozen or so of museums in the National Mall, find one that neither you or her have been to yet and hit it.

Followed by picnic(wx allowing)/bar/ dinner, bottle of wine and fruit and cheese. Or if modify that according to her tomboyish personality.
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:55 pm

Quoting mirrodie (Reply 1):
This seems like a no brainer for me.

Well I was thinking that too but I figure a museum, any museum really only involves walking around and that's it. I'm having a hard time finding something that would be really engaging for both of us. While I know for sure she's crushing pretty decently, I also get the feeling she's the type that gets bored quick.
 
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:05 pm

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 2):
Well I was thinking that too but I figure a museum, any museum really only involves walking around and that's it. I'm having a hard time finding something that would be really engaging for both of us.

FWIW, I wouldn't hide the real you. If you can find a way to make a museum trip engaging (usually, this means interesting and funny), then take her there. Share your knowledge and show off a little bit. But at the same time, when you have dinner, play the 20 questions game with her. That is, ask her 20 questions (or roughly that many. don't be counting on your fingers under the table). If she's nice, she will ask about you, so just brush that off and say "we will get to that, but I want to learn about you first..." Pertinent, relevant questions to keep the conversation going will earn you so many brownie points, you won't know what to do with them. She will feel like you are genuinely interested (which, it sounds like you are), and will definitely be impressed.

Be cool, confident, and collected. You'll nail it.


I hope this works out for you. If it doesn't though, careful about posting that on here. We all remember FLAIRPORT. I mean, I wouldn't mind a second version of that thread, but it'd definitely be at your expense.
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:08 pm

Quoting Fly2HMO (Thread starter):
And yes yes, I'm stocking up on snow globes.

Well, I guess that covers 100+ replies to this thread.   

Quoting Fly2HMO (Thread starter):
more so than any other girl worth remembering in my mind

Not just another random FA, eh? 
Quoting Fly2HMO (Thread starter):
and create more opportunities for bonding/getting her hooked on me/crushing more on me/whatever you want to call it.

In other words:

Quoting Fly2HMO (Thread starter):
What I would really like to do is take her go-kart racing
Quoting Fly2HMO (Thread starter):
Then I thought about stuff like mini-golf, bowling, paddle boating in the potomac, laser tag etc etc.

Nah, scratch that crap.

Quoting Fly2HMO (Thread starter):
She mentioned she likes to see museums, and she hasn't been to the Udvar Hazy air and space museum yet, but I dunno if I really want to show her my extremely geeky side, and again, it's kind of far away for her. ( we try to do stuff mid way).

That's not a bad idea. Maybe not the air museum, but one she might be more into. Doing things that she really likes shows that you:

A. find her interesting and think that she's more than just another good hook-up
B. care enough to put her interests ahead of yours.

But lets face it, this is enough in itself:

Quoting Fly2HMO (Thread starter):
being a pilot and very successful one

Take her for a "breathtaking" sightseeing flight, cook her a special dinner, and really lay it on thick. You can't lose.

[Edited 2011-04-05 13:08:21]
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:11 pm

It may be cheesy but why not go to the National Zoo (if the weather is decent, though being April that can be hit or miss in DC). Plus there are plenty of nice places in Cleveland and Woodley Park to grab a bite to eat afterward.

You could go ice skating at the ice rink at Ballston... again plenty of places nearby to grab food/drink plus the movie theater there is decent.

The Potomac Nationals (Minor League Baseball) are playing this weekend down in Woodbridge. Probably a bit of a schlep to get there for both of you, but it could be a good cheap outing.

Dinner and bar hopping, could either do this in Alexandria or in Georgetown. I don't think there is any shame in letting her decide which bars to hit up in Alexandria... unless they all suck.


I'd say Udvar-Hazy is probably off the books for a while. Not really a date material type place. But when the weather gets a little nicer out a picnic lunch at Gravelly Point is good. The planes flying just overhead are an added bonus b/c on a nice day its a pretty good place to be. Just bring a blanket so you don't have to sit on goose shit.
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:11 pm

Quoting Fly2HMO (Thread starter):

What I would really like to do is take her go-kart racing, as it has worked great with other girls.

Clearly not, or there wouldn't have been a need for this new girl  
Quoting Fly2HMO (Thread starter):
and I'm very broke at the moment.

So, that's out the window...$80 for 16 minutes of excitement is more of a rip off than a fairly STD-free hooker.

Quoting Fly2HMO (Thread starter):
paddle boating in the potomac

I like this idea. You have the sites to keep conversation going if it hits a lull.
 
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:17 pm

Quoting sna752 (Reply 3):

I couldn't have put it better if I tried.

My first "date" with my now-wife actually involved her taking me out to lunch at Friendly's. We were both a college -- well, I was at college: summer school at the time back in 2003. I felt kinda bad that she popped for our $20 lunch. Oh, and that was kinda before we were officially boyfriend/girlfriend. That happened about 2 months later.  

My idea for an inexpensive date would be to take her out to a nice dinner. I'm sure there has to be some sidewalk cafe in DC. Maybe afterwards, weather permitting, you two could walk around the Mall and watch the sun go down. As you hang out around the Mall, you can kinda talk about different things -- find out about any likes/dislikes. Have you been to the Washington Monument? Even if you have, it would be some place to go together... I've been to Mount Washington overlooking Downtown Pittsburgh more times than I could count, but I remember taking my wife there for the first time. It was magical...
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:18 pm

Quoting Fly2HMO (Thread starter):


Feel free to roll your eyes.
Quoting Fly2HMO (Thread starter):

She mentioned she likes to see museums, and she hasn't been to the Udvar Hazy air and space museum yet, but I dunno if I really want to show her my extremely geeky side, and again, it's kind of far away for her. ( we try to do stuff mid way).

OK, but you ARE a geek. And let's face it: you can't hide it. So either you just come right out with: "So you know, I'm a total geek." and take her to A&S museum or you try to pretend you're something you aren't. Plan B rarely works out well. So I actually think that's a very good option.

Get some light lunch, go to the museum, wander around, take the opportunity to hold hands, brush shoulders, blah-blah-blah. Compliment her shoes. Remember to compliment the shoes. I don't care if she's a tomboy, girls like that. It also means: "I've looked at something other than your boobs today."

Then have a nice, simple dinner somewhere. Then go for a walk along the river or someplace pretty. That way you can find a secluded place for a bit of making out.

And then... well... remember to fasten your snowglobe.

Quoting TheCol (Reply 4):

Take her for a "breathtaking" sightseeing flight, cook her a special dinner, and really lay it on thick. You can't loose.

IF you can cook well, this is a very good way to get laid. A flight, a home-cooked meal, and then she's already in your apartment. Again, fasten your snowglobe!
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:23 pm

Quoting Fly2HMO (Thread starter):
I'm currently living just outside of IAD, and she lives near DCA (Alexandria to be exact).

I have no ideas about the date but I do love the way that no matter what the situation, even a romantic one, a.netters ALWAYS reference the nearest airfield.
    
 
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:31 pm

Damn, so much stuff to go through!

One thing I forgot to mention is that she's a huge military geek. I was thinking about doing some military oriented museum out here, preferably WW2 stuff.

But I'm liking the ice skating idea...

Quoting sna752 (Reply 3):
. If you can find a way to make a museum trip engaging (usually, this means interesting and funny), then take her there.

Actually, I just remembered, the udvar hazy center has those (IMO) stupidly unrealistic simulator ride thingies, HOWEVER, I guess I could try the dogfighting one, and play dumb pilot and let her shoot me down.   

Quoting sna752 (Reply 3):
If it doesn't though, careful about posting that on here.

Oh I've been flamed enough for that already, trust me.

Quoting TheCol (Reply 4):

Not just another random FA, eh?

No, screw F/A's, literraly. Never touching one again (for more than a night  )

Quoting TheCol (Reply 4):
In other words:


I've dated damn hot girls, and my ex was a model, and while she's not in those leagues, she's pretty cute. So yeah, damn straight I'd hit it. 
Quoting TheCol (Reply 4):
Take her for a "breathtaking" sightseeing flight, cook her a special dinner, and really lay it on thick. You can't lose.

You missed the I'm broke part  
Quoting DesertJets (Reply 5):
(if the weather is decent, though being April that can be hit or miss in DC).

Miss from what it looks like, supposed to be rainy all month.   

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 5):

You could go ice skating at the ice rink at Ballston..

Now THAT sounds promising.

Quoting sw733 (Reply 6):

Clearly not, or there wouldn't have been a need for this new girl

While those things didn't result in girlfriends, they sure ended up in having fun in the sack. 
Quoting sw733 (Reply 6):
So, that's out the window...$80 for 16 minutes of excitement is more of a rip off than a fairly STD-free hooker.

  

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 8):
Compliment her shoes. Remember to compliment the shoes. I don't care if she's a tomboy, girls like that.


Now you're just trolling.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 8):
A flight, a home-cooked meal, and then she's already in your apartment. Again, fasten your snowglobe!

Well, it would have to be at hers, as my living situation is pretty lame, to put it nicely.
 
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:41 pm

Also, I'm trying to come up with two options. I won't tell her what we'd be doing till I pick her up (or we meet) to create some suspense. Once I meet I'd tell her what I got planned. OR I could be even more sneaky about it and just ask her as we drive/walk/take the metro, if we should go left or right, and just have her know once we get there. That has worked for me before too.

At any rate I'm leaning towards ice skating, though I think it's very cliche, and her being tomboy-ish makes me more skeptical. But girls will always be girls I guess. Preferably somewhere around the national mall and near a metro station, but the only one I can find there is closed. So I was thinking either the capitals iceplex or the pentagon row outdoor one.

[Edited 2011-04-05 13:53:19]
 
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:55 pm

Quoting GBLKD (Reply 9):
I have no ideas about the date but I do love the way that no matter what the situation, even a romantic one, a.netters ALWAYS reference the nearest airfield.

If we would be at facebook, you would have a "like" from for this sentence  

[Edited 2011-04-05 13:57:19]
 
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:56 pm

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 11):
I could be even more sneaky about it and just ask her as we drive/walk/take the metro, if we should go left or right

Now that idea I really like. And I agree with Doc that hiding your geeky side is not really going to win anything so you may as well be open about it and show off your knowledge at the Air & Space sooner rather than later, at least it shows you have interests and knowledge on something many people don't. If you say she is a military geek then she would understand perfectly, and sets her up to be able to take you out to learn some things about that another time, if she is having the same deliberations about unleashing the geekyness.

How about you simply get out of town and got for a walk in the countryside with a picknick? If you want to make it more interesting, bring a camera and take turns being model and photographer.

EDIT: I feel I'm missing something obvious, but what are the snowglobe comments about?

[Edited 2011-04-05 13:58:01]
 
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:23 pm

Quoting GST (Reply 13):
EDIT: I feel I'm missing something obvious, but what are the snowglobe comments about?

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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:57 pm

Dude, it's spring in DC. Do something outdoors.

Cherry Blossom Festival?

Someone recommended paddle boating on the Potomac. If the weather is good, that's the perfect thing to do. And it's only $12 for a 1-hour boat ride. I was actually supposed to do one today but the weather went to trash.

Afterwards you can jump over to Adams Morgan, Arlington or Alexandria for cheap eats.
 
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:11 pm

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 10):
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 8):
Compliment her shoes. Remember to compliment the shoes. I don't care if she's a tomboy, girls like that.


Now you're just trolling.

No, the women folk like that sort of thing. I've seen it happen. It's real.   
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:21 pm

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 14):

hahaha. Wow, just wow.
 
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:23 pm

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 16):

No, the women folk like that sort of thing. I've seen it happen. It's real.

You see, the two men who have the least amount of experience with women recommend it! What could possibly go wrong!

Actually, I have a fair amount of experience with women. So if you ask me "Well have you ever tried...?" Yes, I've tried.
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:26 pm

Here is a idea ... don't go. Save yourself ! Run ... run Forrest run !

If you do go ... see reply 8 and your in like Flynn , just don't over do it. Make it a compliment she thinks about later ... got it. Hopefully something magic happens for you ..its a great feeling when the chemistry works ..good luck.
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:48 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 18):
the two men who have the least amount of experience with women recommend it!

Hey! I go for quality. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.  
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 18):
What could possibly go wrong!

She shows up barefoot.
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:11 pm

Quoting asuflyer05 (Reply 15):
Dude, it's spring in DC. Do something outdoors.

April so far = rain rain rain rain

But paddleboating I have considered as well, but I think I'll save it for later (again, too cliche/corny too soon)

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 18):

You see, the two men who have the least amount of experience with women recommend it! What could possibly go wrong!
 
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:47 pm

Gravelly point (if the planes are landing in the right direction-she'll think you're a genius for taking her there), walk the Cherry Blossoms, go to the Air and Space Museum.

Depending on what you're in for, there's a really neat restaurant called Bus Boys and Poets. It's in the U street corridor, and I think there's a second on I (eye) street somewhere (near gallery place)

Another really good place for a meal is Vapiano's - i'm a big fan...neat atmosphere as well..There's on in Ballston, or out near Dulles at the town center, as well as a couple downtown.

I also hear the Newseum and the Spy Museum are cool places

[Edited 2011-04-05 16:52:43]
 
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:24 am

Quoting Fly2HMO (Thread starter):
She mentioned she likes to see museums, and she hasn't been to the Udvar Hazy air and space museum yet,

She totally told you right there exactly what you should do. Taking her there will show that you were listening to her.

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 10):
I've dated damn hot girls, and my ex was a model, and while she's not in those leagues, she's pretty cute.

Get this the heck out of your head!! Don't even THINK about your damned hot ex-girlfriends when you're with her!! Have some respect man.

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 16):
No, the women folk like that sort of thing. I've seen it happen. It's real.

The gentlemen are quite right about this one. Compliment something so that she knows you're paying attention to something that's not her T or A.
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:48 am

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 23):
Quoting Fly2HMO (Thread starter):
She mentioned she likes to see museums, and she hasn't been to the Udvar Hazy air and space museum yet,

She totally told you right there exactly what you should do. Taking her there will show that you were listening to her.

LISTEN TO THIS ADVICE!!!

Also, don't worry about looking geeky if you go to the Udvar Hazy museum. Most women like men that are passionate about something besides beer and sports. Showing your passion for aviation shouldn't turn her off unless you spend the whole time talking about nothing but airplanes. It's fine to occasionally point out something unique and interesting about an aircraft or a display, but most of what you do is ask her about herself while you casually make your way through the museum. If she's into you she will find reasons to ask you questions about aviation and what she's seeing in the museum, intentionally giving you a chance to show off.
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:50 am

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 23):
She totally told you right there exactly what you should do. Taking her there will show that you were listening to her.

I just realized what I typed and actually I don't remember her actually saying that she liked museums verbatim, but that's the impression I got anyways.

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 23):
Get this the heck out of your head!! Don't even THINK about your damned hot ex-girlfriends when you're with her!!

I haven't mentioned a single word of my past relationships nor do I plan on it, even if she asks. I've learned that the hard way too.

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 23):

The gentlemen are quite right about this one. Compliment something so that she knows you're paying attention to something that's not her T or A.

I was going to compliment her perfume, I really like it (idiotically I forgot my cologne, which usually gets me lots of compliments    ) but I didn't say anything. My policy is to almost never compliment. I figure it should keep girls on their toes.

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 24):

Also, don't worry about looking geeky if you go to the Udvar Hazy museum

I guess you guys are right. That would be the most enjoyable for me I think, even though I've been there 5 times already in the 3 months I've been living here lol. She does know that I've been there that often though, she jokingly gave me crap about it. Also, she told me several times she thinks I live far away, in her mind anyways. By my standards I don't think we are THAT far. But I feel iffy about having her take the metro to come see me and picking her up there at the station, then driving her all the way to the udvar hazy museum, since she commutes daily on the metro for well over an hour and didn't speak too kindly of it. It would take her at least an hour to get to my nearest station, then another 30 mins to get to IAD.

She did say literally the ball is in my court and that she would leave it up to me to figure it out. So I guess she likes guys that take charge.   

I guess I may look into the cherry blossom festival after all as another option, I'm just not liking the way the wx forecast is looking.

[Edited 2011-04-05 19:07:23]
 
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:52 am

Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 22):
Gravelly point (if the planes are landing in the right direction-she'll think you're a genius for taking her there)

OP said the person he's interested in lives in Alexandria. One would hope she does know about Gravelly point.

The cherry blossom walk is a good idea, unfortunately I think next weekend may be too late - it was absolutely gorgeous around the tidal basin two days ago (Sunday morning).

If she is into art, then there is a very good collection of the works of Canaletto and peers at the east wing (newer I.M. Pei building) of the National Gallery of Art - There's also a Gaugin exhibition there well worth seeing - (as you may have heard some nitwit attacked a painting there on Friday because she thought two women with bare breasts was evil).
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:12 am

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 10):
One thing I forgot to mention is that she's a huge military geek. I was thinking about doing some military oriented museum out here, preferably WW2 stuff.

I think this is a good idea. I'd go with this.

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 24):
Showing your passion for aviation shouldn't turn her off unless you spend the whole time talking about nothing but airplanes

Learned that the hard way.   Light on the technical details, more of the art is the way to go on that.
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:29 am

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 25):
My policy is to almost never compliment. I figure it should keep girls on their toes.


That's the stupidest thing in the world. Most women appreciate a compliment, especially if the person saying it comes across as genuine and they happen to actually like that person.
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:39 am

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 25):
My policy is to almost never compliment. I figure it should keep girls on their toes.

  

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 28):
That's the stupidest thing in the world. Most women appreciate a compliment, especially if the person saying it comes across as genuine and they happen to actually like that person.

  

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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:39 am

The first thought that should come into your head when you see her is "She's gonna be my Baby Mama!"   
 
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:51 am

Quoting comorin (Reply 30):
The first thought that should come into your head when you see her is "She's gonna be my Baby Mama!"

It would also be good to bring her around your friends. You should quietly poll and see how many of them would 'hit that'... If your quiet poll yields worse than 50%, you should move on.

To facilitate this, how about going on a double-date for your date?
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:59 am

Quoting Fly2HMO (Thread starter):
I'm currently living just outside of IAD, and she lives near DCA (Alexandria to be exact).

Did not know you lived in the DC area now.

Well just about everything has been said that I can think of. Must say the monuments at night never fail. By far the best time to go there. Plenty of places to have dinner in the district or in old town Alexandria.

I think inside the District gives you much better options then out by Dulles. So many museums to chose from and places to eat. Could do a late afternoon museum, I am sure she has been to a lot try to see if there is one you guys have not been to, dinner and drinks then walk the monuments at night all weather permitting. This is exactly what my DC first date plan is. Also you going to her, picking her up etc.. It just works better IMO.
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:29 am

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 25):
I haven't mentioned a single word of my past relationships nor do I plan on it, even if she asks. I've learned that the hard way too.

Be careful ducking the question completely. If you won't say anything she will think you have baggage and maybe aren't over an ex. You have to say enough to let her know that you are over your past relationships and are going to be fully focused on her.

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 25):
That would be the most enjoyable for me I think, even though I've been there 5 times already in the 3 months I've been living here lol. She does know that I've been there that often though, she jokingly gave me crap about it.

That changes things a bit. Going again might make it look like you're obsessed and don't have any other interests. Any of the other Smithsonian museums pique your interest? You can meet up right at the mall instead of you picking her up or vice versa. I'd save Udvar Hazy and the Air & Space on the mall for another time and go to something else you think you both will find interesting.

The zoo was also a good idea. Even tomboys like cute animals.

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 27):
Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 24):
Showing your passion for aviation shouldn't turn her off unless you spend the whole time talking about nothing but airplanes

Learned that the hard way.   Light on the technical details, more of the art is the way to go on that.

Ain't that the truth. Talking about the magic of the moment the wheels leave the ground is far more romantic than a breakdown of why compressor stalls occur.

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 29):
Most people appreciate a compliment. I hate playing games.

I'd add a caveat to that. Most people appreciate a real compliment but hate people that suck up. Simply saying "I like your shoes", "I like your dress", "I like your hair" can easly come off as an insincere attemp to win someone's approval. Make the compliment specific and something that you actually appreciate.
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:50 am

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 33):
The zoo was also a good idea. Even tomboys like cute animals.

Be careful there. If she's into animal welfare issues she might not appreciate a trip to the zoo.
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:13 am

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 25):
My policy is to almost never compliment. I figure it should keep girls on their toes.
*grabs you by the lapels, shakes you violently, slaps you around a fewtimes*

See? THAT'S why you don't get laid more!

Try these:
1) You're a really beautiful woman (you have to say this just right and just at the right time or it will backfire).
2) I like your shoes.
3) You smell really nice (if you notice her perfume).
4) You look gorgeous/pretty/great tonight.
5) Nice ass! Wanna screw? (WAIT!!! Sorry, that's for gay guys. Don't use that one!)   

Trust me, as a guy who women spill their guts to, women love compliments!

If she protests or something: "Oh, I look horrible," then you grab her, look into her eyes, and say something like: "I think you look amazing. So you're supposed to say "thank you."" It's assertive, yet sweet, and that'll get a smile. And quite possibly a kiss.

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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:14 am

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 19):
Here is a idea ... don't go. Save yourself ! Run ... run Forrest run !

Nah. He's in his 20's. He hasn't learned to think with his brains yet.   
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:25 am

I think she dropped you a hint with the museum, and that is your best option; it also shows, you were listening.
Keep it a surprise, and I am sure she will appreciate it. It shows you are interested in what she wants to do, it also keeps you from looking indecisive, which can be a turn off to some women.
As for showing your geeky side, make jokes about it. When I have told women I was a plane geek, they never had a problem with it. Just be yourself and make them laugh, it has always worked for me.
 
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:56 am

Quoting Fly2HMO (Thread starter):
She mentioned she likes to see museums, and she hasn't been to the Udvar Hazy air and space museum yet, but I dunno if I really want to show her my extremely geeky side, and again, it's kind of far away for her. ( we try to do stuff mid way).

Go ahead and show her who you really are and let the chips fall where they may. Better to get it over with now rather than later.

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 2):
Quoting mirrodie (Reply 1):
This seems like a no brainer for me.

Well I was thinking that too but I figure a museum, any museum really only involves walking around and that's it.

AND looking at and discussing the exhibits on display! Who could be better than a dyed-in-the-wool airplane geek to serve as a personal tour guide to the Udvar Hazy Air And Space Museum?

Quoting sna752 (Reply 3):
FWIW, I wouldn't hide the real you. If you can find a way to make a museum trip engaging (usually, this means interesting and funny), then take her there. Share your knowledge and show off a little bit. But at the same time, when you have dinner, play the 20 questions game with her. That is, ask her 20 questions (or roughly that many. don't be counting on your fingers under the table). If she's nice, she will ask about you, so just brush that off and say "we will get to that, but I want to learn about you first..." Pertinent, relevant questions to keep the conversation going will earn you so many brownie points, you won't know what to do with them. She will feel like you are genuinely interested (which, it sounds like you are), and will definitely be impressed.

^ Best advice in the whole thread!
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:06 pm

I'm typing this in a hurry as I got an interview shortly, I'll reply individually later today, but I'm planning on calling her tonight to make plans, or get the ball rolling at least. I'd wait till thursday but she works all day and then has classes.

Anyways, I was thinking about listing out things to do (pretty much everything mentioned so far here) then asking which things she definitely WONT want to do. Then whatever is left over is what we'll do, but she wont know what exactly till the day of.

Yay or nay? I'm trying to take charge yet at the same time not trying to come on too strong or acting like a doormat.

[Edited 2011-04-06 06:06:54]
 
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:23 pm

It's just a date, and all this is starting to sound like a pre-flight checklist. Relax, and the magic of the moment will guide your thoughts and your feet. Trust yourself and have fun!
 
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:25 pm

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 39):
doormat.


denial of the inevitable ... ah the 20's    .

Its sounds to me like you really like this lass that's good. So basically the best thing to do is stay relaxed ..be yourself and keep it light and fun. First impressions are important ...but they should also be real .
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:36 pm

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 39):
Anyways, I was thinking about listing out things to do (pretty much everything mentioned so far here) then asking which things she definitely WONT want to do. Then whatever is left over is what we'll do, but she wont know what exactly till the day of.

Yay or nay? I'm trying to take charge yet at the same time not trying to come on too strong or acting like a doormat.

Nay. Too much try on your part and too much decision on hers. I would say something like "I was thinking we could..." and give the general idea ("go to a museum", "go to the zoo", "go skating") and see what she says. Don't present all the ideas to her at once. You'll look indecisive. But by asking her if your idea sounds good, you show that you want to make sure you're choosing something suitable for her, not pushing your idea on her.
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:20 pm

Plenty things to do:

-Arlington National Cemetary
-Catch a Washington Caps NHL game
-Ballston Ice Rink. (Pentagon Row is closed at this time of year, but during the wintertime, it's an awesome place for dates. I used to skate there in High School every weekends.)
- Go Sailing (Not sure if your Embry-Riddle guys like sports.)
-Hike to Great Falls.
-Hike/Jog/Bike/Rollerblade the trail along GW parkway.
-Mt. Vernon
-Kings Dominion
-Rent a Plane from Manassas (Aviation Adventures, baby) and fly to VA Beach. I know some ERAU CFI's working there.
-Skyline Drive
-The area around Ballston has good places to eat/nightlife.
-Ride the Metro all day.
-Get lost at N.W. DC at 2am. (Watch out for the druggies.)
-Camden Yards
-Annapolis

Living in Arlington during the last 15 years, there's plenty of things for you love-birds to do. Get outside. If it rains, that's what a umbrella is for. Good luck, soldier.
 
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:30 pm

I just remembered she mentioned she's super competitive. So laser tag, mini-golf, bowling and other stuff may be worth considering after all.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 35):
*grabs you by the lapels, shakes you violently, slaps you around a fewtimes*
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 35):
See? THAT'S why you don't get laid more!
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 36):

Nah. He's in his 20's. He hasn't learned to think with his brains yet.

Yup. Too much effort.   
 
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:01 pm

I hate to say it but the best thing you can do is say "Ah #%@& it" and just be yourself, sincere in your appreciation and affection for her but not needy or clingy. That's the way I finally was able to "catch me one"!

Good advice ↓

Quoting comorin (Reply 40):
It's just a date, and all this is starting to sound like a pre-flight checklist. Relax, and the magic of the moment will guide your thoughts and your feet. Trust yourself and have fun!
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 41):
Its sounds to me like you really like this lass that's good. So basically the best thing to do is stay relaxed ..be yourself and keep it light and fun. First impressions are important ...but they should also be real .

Somehow A.net threads on "I need help with a girl..." always turn into something a bit creepy, dangerous, over detailed, and way over examined. Ultimately you just have to be as much "yourself" as you can be while at the same time being open to new things that you previously would not have considered (from complimenting a girl while on a date to going to an opera or something) just becasue she likes it.

This is just a date and it needs to be low pressure and spontaneous (no matter how hard you try you can never "plan" her reactions to whatever you do so you have to just roll with it). Just enjoy yourself and try your best to have her enjoy it as well. If she a good match for you it will work out. If she isn't, well just keep doing what you are doing, it seems to be working to get you to meet girls.

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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:12 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 35):
If she protests or something: "Oh, I look horrible," then you grab her, look into her eyes, and say something like: "I think you look amazing. So you're supposed to say "thank you."

"... oh, and I almost forgot, here's your snowglobe. Notice the figurine of the two of us that I took the time to sculpt and insert. By the way, let me know the next time you're taking a flight, so I can track you. I love you."

Sorry Doc, but I'd try to stay away from most rom-com clichés, at least on the first date. Don't get me wrong, I'm not an enemy of romance, but there's a way to be sweet and even romantic without resorting to theatrics.

The problem with trying to impress a date, which of course you want to do, is that you always risk making it all about yourself. I find that the most difficult thing about dating is simply trying to be yourself and comfortable with a "new" person at the same time. If you can manage that, the setting and activities don't really matter very much. Anything that let's you connect in any way will do.

Hell, the last date I was on was spent standing in a looong line and not getting in to a concert, and then in a noisy bar with shitty service. Most of our conversation was tinged with bitterness, cynicism and general bitching about how everything turned out, and I guess we bonded over it. One of the best dates I've ever been on (and he made me some kick-ass scrambled eggs in the morning).   

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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:14 pm

Quoting tugger (Reply 45):
That's the way I finally was able to "catch me one"!


Finally knocked her down huh ? how far away did she get ?   

One thing for sure .. if the chick likes you .... you cant really "F" it up. Once they make up their mind ... its out of your control anyway  . Same applies if they do not like you ... just move on .
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:28 pm

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 23):
Quoting Fly2HMO (Thread starter):
She mentioned she likes to see museums, and she hasn't been to the Udvar Hazy air and space museum yet,

She totally told you right there exactly what you should do. Taking her there will show that you were listening to her.

That's what I said. And in light of multiple mention of keeping it cheap, its a no brainer.

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 34):
Be careful there. If she's into animal welfare issues she might not appreciate a trip to the zoo.

And that just goes to show how incredibly easy it can become to offend someone without even trying. Good call SH.

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 42):
Nay. Too much try on your part and too much decision on hers. I would say something like "I was thinking we could..." and give the general idea ("go to a museum", "go to the zoo", "go skating") and see what she says. Don't present all the ideas to her at once. You'll look indecisive. But by asking her if your idea sounds good, you show that you want to make sure you're choosing something suitable for her, not pushing your idea on her.

Listen Fly, you don't have to listen to me or anyone else....but I would advise you listen to the woman, Scarlot Harlot.

I've got a lot of girlfriends (in lieu of sisters) that always gave me good counsel regarding women. Get advice from women.


lastly, whatever you do, be sure to print out this thread and show it to her the morning after the wedding.
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RE: Need Ideas For A Date

Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:49 pm

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 47):
Finally knocked her down huh ? how far away did she get ?

Not far at all... I run faster....   
(hmmm, can''t find the smiley for "creepy")

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 47):
One thing for sure .. if the chick likes you .... you cant really "F" it up. Once they make up their mind ... its out of your control anyway . Same applies if they do not like you ... just move on .

  
Yep, you're either screwed or you're screwed!

Quoting mirrodie (Reply 48):
lastly, whatever you do, be sure to print out this thread and show it to her

just before the date to demonstrate how much thought and care you put into it.    (That's gotta be at least as good as giving her a snowglobe and since you don't have much money this is cheaper.)

Tugg

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