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What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:12 pm

I am likely to be moving to Dubai for a few years and will need a car to tool around the place. This will be part of my package so I don't want to appear too greedy or wannabee. What's a cool set of wheels to own that I can pull up to a fancy place?

Thanks for any advice.
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:17 pm

Son, I am disappoint. Need more specifics!

Quoting comorin (Thread starter):
This will be part of my package so I don't want to appear too greedy or wannabee.

What do you mean? Are you getting your car paid for?

Otherwise what's your budget?

Quoting comorin (Thread starter):
What's a cool set of wheels to own that I can pull up to a fancy place?

That right there narrows it down to European cars.
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:25 pm

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 1):
Son, I am disappoint. Need more specifics!

Challenge Accept. Upper Bound 5 series or Jag XK or LR4 etc; lower bound Acura TL.

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 1):
What do you mean? Are you getting your car paid for?

Yes. It will be leased. Should I look at used.

But it must be Cool!
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:37 pm

Last time I was there I saw a guy (expat) driving around Deira in a bright yellow Corvette. I felt like I should buy knee-pads for the women looking on, based on their stares of "ohhhh" and "ahhhh"
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:41 pm

A big and safe Volvo. The traffic there is extremely dangerous. I heard road accidents are the most common cause of death in UAE (except for natural death).
I've been driving there quite a lot, it's crazy.
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:48 pm

Quoting comorin (Reply 2):
Should I look at used.

Hell no. Unless you find a mint condition and cheap used S-Class or 7 series or A8. But if they're paying for it get it new!

Quoting comorin (Reply 2):
But it must be Cool!

Have a look here http://georgebakalov.net/photos-luxury-cars-abandoned-and-covered-by-d

Otherwise, how about:

http://www.carsbase.com/photo/Audi-A5_mp4_pic_42028.jpg

Quoting sw733 (Reply 3):
Last time I was there I saw a guy (expat) driving around Deira in a bright yellow Corvette.

Everybody and their mom has a Corvette.
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:57 pm

The biggest Toyota, Mitsubishi, Nissan SUV 4X4 you can get.

Driving in the Emirates in brutal and not for the tame or timid so you want a much metal around you as possible.

Quoting comorin (Reply 2):
Challenge Accept. Upper Bound 5 series or Jag XK or LR4 etc; lower bound Acura TL.



Bentley Continental GT's get parked in front, not BMW's of Jag's.
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:18 pm

The A5 mentioned above is a great suggestion (assuming you get one made in Ingolstadt, not in Malaysia) an awesome looking car without being pretentious or too much wannabe/like.
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:02 pm

You will need beefed up air con. Also think about a 4x4 as dune-bashing seems to be a popular activity there  

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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:22 pm

Thank you, thank you!

Quoting sw733 (Reply 3):
Last time I was there I saw a guy (expat) driving around Deira in a bright yellow Corvette. I felt like I should buy knee-pads for the women looking on, based on their stares of "ohhhh" and "ahhhh"

Alas, my knees creak when I have to get in a low slung car! So no sports cars...

Quoting planewasted (Reply 4):
've been driving there quite a lot, it's crazy.
Quoting 474218 (Reply 6):
Driving in the Emirates in brutal and not for the tame or timid so you want a much metal around you as possible.

Yes, I have heard horror stories, not to mention the youtubes about young Emirati getting their rocks off :




Quoting signol (Reply 8):
You will need beefed up air con. Also think about a 4x4 as dune-bashing seems to be a popular activity there

I was thinking about a Land Rover for that reason...

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 5):

That is a cool car! I think The Most Interesting Man in the World would approve. Is an A4 too 'Jr. Exec' ?
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:27 pm

Hey,

also look at A4 and Q5. Both are wonderful cars, but I think that you be better off with Q5. If you really want some 4x4 off-road look into Mitsubishi Montero (Pajero).

Cheers,

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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:46 pm

Quoting andrej (Reply 10):
f you really want some 4x4 off-road look into Mitsubishi Montero (Pajero).

Thanks Andrej! A friend of mine has one, and I think the inclinometer on it is really cool! Sadly, I think my dune bugging days are over, unless I meet a beautiful young thing in burka there...

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 1):
That right there narrows it down to European cars.

Sir, what about Cadillac, is it Approve?

Quoting 474218 (Reply 6):
Bentley Continental GT's get parked in front, not BMW's of Jag's.

I am OK with that, since The Big Guy (silent partner) has a RR and a jet. I just don't want to be turned away or directed to staff parking  


In fact I've been thinking that I can either maintain a high profile, or just lead a nice low profile life in Dubai. As a business owner, I've had to play a role for the last 25 years to staff and cutomers, so this might be a good opportunity to just vanish and be ninja Me.
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:33 pm

I recommend you splurge.

Cars in Dubai are somewhat cheap(er) than in most countries, plus roads there are awesome as is parking etc. so little chances of your car getting scratched/maimed (getting into an accident is another matter...). Car companies have great long-term installment options in the UAE.

Regarding the 'insane' driving....I think it's more to do with the 'driving culture' than anything. There are plenty of driving schools in Dubai, you can sign up for a few introductory classes if you want to feel more comfortable.
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:37 pm

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 5):
Otherwise, how about:

Good call. I'm trying to talk a family member into looking at the A5 when he goes to buy a new car. His major concern is being able to fit a bicycle in the back.

My other top pick would be a used Porsche 911.

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 5):
Everybody and their mom has a Corvette.

Here that's true, but in other parts of the world they are much more rare and likely expensive.

Quoting comorin (Reply 9):
I was thinking about a Land Rover for that reason...

You might look at the Porsche Cayenne, X5, or ML350 too.
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:40 pm

Quoting directorguy (Reply 12):
I recommend you splurge.

OK, twist my arm..  

Is there an alternative to driving, like cabs and livery services? Or is it best to just own a car? In NYC where I live a car is not necessary and even a liability.

Thanks
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:42 pm

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 13):
My other top pick would be a used Porsche 911.

My bones object! I would need a Wendi Deng to help me get in and out of that car.
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:04 pm

Quoting comorin (Reply 9):
Yes, I have heard horror stories, not to mention the youtubes about young Emirati getting their rocks off :

And how could you forget...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZITkDOUpq_Q

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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:58 pm

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 16):

  
  
  

Hey Birdwatching, I remember a thread long ago where you drove around the UAE - any updates? Thanks.
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:04 pm

I don't have the slightest clue. Ask these guys:



Maybe one of these?

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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:27 pm

Actually I like the looks of the new 2011 Dodge Durango, it is fully based on the new, well regarded Jeep Cherokee.


If you think the Jeep is the better name you can go low key:


Or just a bit more flashy:

2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8

I would imagine these would stand out without being too "look at me" and would not be very common at all.

Go American!    (OK, OK, I know they are not just built in, and with stuff from, the USA)

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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:32 pm

I see where you're going with the "Off-Road" capabilities:

 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:34 pm

While i havent been to Monte Carlo,but i dont think there is another place on this planet that tops DXB in terms of the quality of cars that you see there. Outside of Supercars,the only cars that get noticed in Dubai are brand new models that are very very recently launched and therefore quite rare- say like that new Range Rover Evoque for example.

I'll give you a real life example from DXB (from 2005). I was visiting a friend there who had recently moved from London and he shipped his fairly new Lamborghini Murcielago (left hand drive) to DXB as well.Naturally i was super excited to be driving around in my buddy's Lambo and i was expecting it would get a serious amount of attention - i was wrong!

I mean people looked but no one seemed amazed  . The icing on the cake was when we drove to Al Qasr - Medinat al Jumeirah hotel to have lunch. As we prepared pull up the car slowly towards the valet and then open those insanely cool Lamborghini doors,i was like pretty confident that this is easily the hottest car here and everyone has got to be looking at it! The glory was short lived - 5 seconds later out of no where another Murcielago pulls up but this guy had a Roadster with the roof off and the sun blazing down on the gorgeous red leather interior!  I told my friend, bro you gotta do better then this in Dubai - a 1 year old Murcielago hardtop simply doesnt cut it here!

When he had the same car in London,people would stop and take pictures of it.

Moral of the story Comorin,just get a used Mercedes or BMW...maybe even a Range Rover.Depreciation is very high there.

And with your permission i'd like to dedicate my reply in loving memory of the same friend - Tragically hes no longer with us anymore - May God bless his soul.
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:39 pm

Quoting tugger (Reply 19):
Go American!

Nice pics! Will keep in mind, was also thinking about Cadillac...
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:58 pm

Quoting KHI747 (Reply 21):
Moral of the story Comorin,just get a used Mercedes or BMW...maybe even a Range Rover.Depreciation is very high there.

And with your permission i'd like to dedicate my reply in loving memory of the same friend - Tragically hes no longer with us anymore - May God bless his soul.

That's quite a story! I think you are right and I might as well stick to MB/LandRover/Audi. Thanks for the insight.

I am sorry to hear about your friend and at least he seems to have enjoyed his brief stay in our world - RIP.

p.s. I will be landing down there in the middle of Ramadan - will everything be shut down?

[Edited 2011-07-21 15:05:51]
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:09 pm

Quoting KHI747 (Reply 21):
While i havent been to Monte Carlo,but i dont think there is another place on this planet that tops DXB in terms of the quality of cars that you see there. Outside of Supercars,the only cars that get noticed in Dubai are brand new models that are very very recently launched and therefore quite rare- say like that new Range Rover Evoque for example.


So true! About ten (10) years ago sitting in front of the Abu Dubai Sheraton were two Bentley's a Lamborghini and a Smart car?
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:52 pm

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 13):
Porsche Cayenne, X5, or ML350

All of them being completely useless given their non-existent off-road capabilities. Remember, he said he does not want a "poseur car".
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:56 pm

Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 25):
All of them being completely useless given their non-existent off-road capabilities.

Likely no worse than a Range Rover. Furthermore, they can't climb rocks, but for blasting through the desert at ridiculous speeds they should do alright.

Even better in that respect, get yourself an F-150 Raptor. A bad ass American pickup that can do triple digit speeds off road should be fun in Dubai. Just be careful getting air.
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:32 pm

Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 25):
Remember, he said he does not want a "poseur car".

  

From the thread so far, I would need a sturdy car, not too flashy, good for local weather conditions. I would also not like to outdo my potential customers, who are in Banking. Also, I'm 5' 6", so a big car won't look good on me.

At various times in my life I have owned MBs, BMWs and an Audi. I feel very secure in a Benz but thought I should look around a bit this time. I also find the MB and BMW seats a bit firmer than I'd like.

I've never driven a 4x4 but the height might be a plus from a safety point of view.
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:37 am

Quoting comorin (Reply 9):
Is an A4 too 'Jr. Exec' ?

Some would say so. It's still a great car though. But I find an A5 would be much more ad-hoc to the Dubai scene.

Quoting comorin (Reply 11):
Sir, what about Cadillac, is it Approve?

Meh. Pretty bland IMO. Unless you go for a Shitscalade, in which case you'll only look like a douche.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 13):
My other top pick would be a used Porsche 911.

Agreed.

Quoting comorin (Reply 27):
I've never driven a 4x4 but the height might be a plus from a safety point of view.

        

Just because they're taller and have more metal and weigh more does NOT mean they're any safer. In fact, I'd say that makes them unsafer in many ways (high center of gravity, long breaking distances etc etc)
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:48 am

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 28):
Some would say so. It's still a great car though. But I find an A5 would be much more ad-hoc to the Dubai scene.

Accepted.

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 28):
Sir, what about Cadillac, is it Approve?

Meh. Pretty bland IMO. Unless you go for a Shitscalade, in which case you'll only look like a douche.

I get easily brainwashed by commercials.

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 28):
My other top pick would be a used Porsche 911.

Agreed.

I would end up looking like a Viagra ad.

I just stepped out an hour ago for some air (man, its hot outside today!!) and saw a beautiful black A8L parked outside. Nice car!
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:01 am

Chevy Caprice (Holden).

Strong, exceptionally well-engineered, durable, not too flashy.

http://www.alghandi.com/Image/Chevy/Caprice_2010_A.pdf
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:25 am

Quoting comorin (Reply 29):
I would end up looking like a Viagra ad.

Now if we were talking a Buick or Oldsmobile I could see that, but a Porsche? Not seeing the connection.

These can be found for surprisingly cheap:

http://newmaserati.info/images/maserati-quattroporte.jpg

Quoting comorin (Reply 29):

I just stepped out an hour ago for some air (man, its hot outside today!!) and saw a beautiful black A8L parked outside. Nice car!

That would be another one to look at assuming you are allowed to go that high up. It has been referred to by a few as the "limousine GTI" luxurious and comfy yet sporty.
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:48 am

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 31):
Not seeing the connection.

I got a lot of boos and hisses for my last two-seater car : "Midlife crisis!" they cried. Anyway, as mentioned earlier, I am looking for a quieter car that still has some style. I like your Audi suggestions so far...

If my project goes really well then I'll retire and get a Bentley with a driver named Cholmondeley  
Quoting SCCutler (Reply 30):

Sounds like a good understated car...I like soft-sprung cars...
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:15 am

Quoting comorin (Reply 32):
I like your Audi suggestions so far...

The A5 has been facelifted for the 2012 season and official pictures revealed only a few weeks ago so if you don't insist on having the latest thing there might be some good deals available on the pre-facelift version. The facelifted version should go on sale after the summer.

http://img.auto.cz/news/img/galleries/2011-28/aua5x320_4e1d7f1ec16d2.jpg
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:47 am

Quoting comorin (Reply 32):

I got a lot of boos and hisses for my last two-seater car : "Midlife crisis!" they cried.

Well what was it then? If it's along the lines of what I'm thinking, then you were asking for it.... 

How 'bout a jag?

http://www.auto-power-girl.com/high-resolution-wallpapers/jaguar-xf-diesel-s-275hp/jaguar-xf-diesel-s-275hp-2009-7.jpg

The new jags are getting rave reviews, specially the XF
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:21 am

Quoting comorin (Reply 22):
Nice pics!

The Durango is pretty nice on the inside too (though I'm not a fan of the brushed aluminum on the steering wheel)
http://newautocars.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/2011-dodge-durango-interior-view.jpg

I actually think that if you want something both low-key but nice, and something that people will notice somewhat because it is not what they always see, then something latest model-new and American is the best way to go. Many have the standard "good" European cars (from Jag's to MB's to Audi's, etc.) or the exotics (it is Dubai after all) but few will have the new domestic market US cars that are now really nice and not crap.

Do something different.

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 28):
Just because they're taller and have more metal and weigh more does NOT mean they're any safer. In fact, I'd say that makes them unsafer in many ways (high center of gravity, long breaking distances etc etc)

Actually that's not true anymore:

Quote:
The IIHS report examined accident data from between 2006 and 2009 for 2005 to 2008 model year vehicles, and tallied driver fatalities. While minivans still record the lowest driver fatality rate of all vehicle types, the finding that SUVs are safer than passenger cars and trucks is a dramatic turnaround for the IIHS.

"The rollover risk in SUVs used to outweigh their size/weight advantage, but that's no longer the case, thanks to [advances like stability control]," said Anne McCartt, IIHS senior vice president for research, in a statement announcing the report's findings.
http://www.trucktrend.com/features/n...hs_suvs_safer_than_cars/index.html

While not an about face, the truth continues to be that a bigger/heavier vehicle are more survivable in an accident. But now with lots of research and data under their belt that lead to changes in design (stability control, lower ground clearance, vastly improved brakes, etc.), the new class of SUV's/Crossovers are not "less safe" than cars.

Tugg

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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:14 am

Whatever you get, I *strongly* recommend that it be white or silver.
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:21 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 36):
Whatever you get, I *strongly* recommend that it be white or silver.

Prescient - that was going to be my next question! Appreciate your input, given your feelings about the UAE  
Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 34):
Well what was it then? If it's along the lines of what I'm thinking, then you were asking for it....

A red SL500    (cliche) and I drove it cross country (double cliche). No, I did not meet Elle MacPherson on the way...
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:37 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 36):
Whatever you get, I *strongly* recommend that it be white or silver.

Or just tint the crap out of the darned thing. I survived years of driving black cars in 120F temps in the shade just fine.

Quoting comorin (Reply 37):

A red SL500

Oh, that's actually much better than I was expecting. Then again the color doesn't help.  I was afraid you'd say a Miata or something along those lines.

Quoting tugger (Reply 35):
Actually that's not true anymore:

Yet that does not speak much for maneuverability now does it? Sure newer SUVs may have better survivability during a crash but will they have better handling than a standard sedan, thus further lowering the likelihood of an accident with an evasive maneuver? hell no.
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:51 pm

Quoting comorin (Reply 14):
Is there an alternative to driving, like cabs and livery services? Or is it best to just own a car? In NYC where I live a car is not necessary and even a liability.

Public transportation is constantly being improved and upgraded. You may know that the Dubai Metro recently opened, and the new Green Line will open at the end of the year. However, the metro's coverage is not as inclusive as most other cities, and the timings aren't very flexible. During the summer, it's going to want to minimize time spent walking outside, even if it's just a few blocks from the metro/bus station to where you live/work. Even the very lucky few who live and work right next to metro stations can't be bothered to use public transportation when it's that hot.

Another option could be to rent a car and change it every month or so. Some people do that, particularly if they're staying in Dubai for only a few years and don't want to be saddled with a car they don't need when they go back home.
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:30 pm

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 38):
Or just tint the crap out of the darned thing. I survived years of driving black cars in 120F temps in the shade just fine.

Some of the cars we're talking about look really elegant in black so it's good to know that I am not restricted to white.

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 38):
Oh, that's actually much better than I was expecting. Then again the color doesn't help. I was afraid you'd say a Miata or something along those lines.

I always check with Him before I make any decisions:



 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:50 pm

Quoting directorguy (Reply 39):
Public transportation is constantly being improved and upgraded. You may know that the Dubai Metro recently opened, and the new Green Line will open at the end of the year. However, the metro's coverage is not as inclusive as most other cities, and the timings aren't very flexible. During the summer, it's going to want to minimize time spent walking outside, even if it's just a few blocks from the metro/bus station to where you live/work. Even the very lucky few who live and work right next to metro stations can't be bothered to use public transportation when it's that hot.

Very good points - I had forgotten how hot it can get on foot!

I am assuming the following use case for the car:

8 am drive to work (cool mornings in the desert?). Park in shaded area?

12 pm Sortie for lunch ( blazing hot.)

4 pm Head home (hot).

7 pm - dinner/entt. (cool down).

Weekends - any places to drive to?

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 36):

Point well taken about color and reflectivity for keeping the car cool. IIRC, Geek question: IR rays enter the glass into the car interior, and the heat is trapped because the glass is not permeable to the lower IR frequency emitted by the warmed seats etc - greenhouse effect?


Thanks
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:59 pm

Quoting comorin (Reply 41):
Geek question: IR rays enter the glass into the car interior, and the heat is trapped because the glass is not permeable to the lower IR frequency emitted by the warmed seats etc - greenhouse effect?

Some cars have this cool (no pun intended) feature: a ventilation system which runs in limited mode powered from solar panes fitted in the sunroof even when the car is parked and locked. This of course has no miraculous effect, but better than nothing and reduces the effect you described.


Quoting comorin (Reply 40):
Some of the cars we're talking about look really elegant in black so it's good to know that I am not restricted to white.

You are of course not restricted to white, but for a sun-scorched place like Dubai I think the argument about dark colors heating up a car by additional 5-10 deg. C is very valid. And black cars always look dirty... anywhere in the world...unless you want to be a slave of the carwash place.
 
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:10 pm

Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 42):
You are of course not restricted to white, but for a sun-scorched place like Dubai I think the argument about dark colors heating up a car by additional 5-10 deg. C is very valid. And black cars always look dirty... anywhere in the world...unless you want to be a slave of the carwash place.

Well said. I think black cars only work when you have a driver constantly fussing over it! To a lesser degree, even white cars need to be looked after; perhaps silver is the least hassle color of them all. I'll also make sure that the interior trim is of a light color.

I'm also thinking that a 6-cylinder is a minimum requirement for smoothness and a/c load - or have 4-cylinders become stronger and smoother?
 
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:30 pm

Quoting comorin (Reply 43):
I'm also thinking that a 6-cylinder is a minimum requirement for smoothness and a/c load - or have 4-cylinders become stronger and smoother?

As always with any car-related thread the answer will most likely differ based on from which side of the Atlantic it will come. I would say that today's petrol engines are smooth and silent enough that a 6-cylinder is not a necessity, certainly not with European engines, and I would focus more on output/torque figures rather than on number of cylinders.
I have no idea how much additional output (if any) one needs to keep the a/c going without being hurt on performance in an unforgiving climate as is in Dubai.
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:39 pm

Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 44):
I would say that today's petrol engines are smooth and silent enough that a 6-cylinder is not a necessity, certainly not with European engines, and I would focus more on output/torque figures rather than on number of cylinders.

Thanks again. I am wondering if you can mate a 4-cyl to an automatic tranny and still have smooth shifting. Some of the compact rental cars here are quite sad in this respect.
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:51 pm

Quoting comorin (Reply 27):
I would need a sturdy car

Need a sturdy car? How about buying a Hummer?

http://www.hummerarabia.com/content_...ta/LAAM/ME/en/GBPME/018/index.html

Got to be some used Hummers in good condition in Dubai.

 
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Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:10 pm

Quoting comorin (Reply 45):
I am wondering if you can mate a 4-cyl to an automatic tranny and still have smooth shifting. Some of the compact rental cars here are quite sad in this respect.

I have a limited, about 10,000 km worth experience with a VW-manufactured 7-speed DSGs in combination with 1.8 TSI (Skoda Octavia, company pool car) and the shifting is very smooth. Driving in steep mountain roads, the transmission sometimes gets slightly confused what gear to kick in, but that's what the manual override is great for.
My dad (74) just bought himself a Kia Venga with an automatic transmission (well me and my brother forced him to go automatic since I believe that will extend the time before he becomes too dangerous to himself and others on the road). It's a combination of a 92kW 1.6 and by today's standards simple, "dumb" 4-speed automatic tranny. A combination which I was a bit afraid of to be honest, the tranny in particular, but was pleasantly surprised how smooth and agile it is, within the normal driving profile (speed limit 130km/h).
To answer your question: imho it is more about the transmission being/not being good per se rather than the number of cylinders of an engine it is coupled with.
 
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:20 pm

Quoting comorin (Reply 37):
A red SL500

Yeah, that's a Viagra car.

Quoting comorin (Reply 40):
I always check with Him before I make any decisions:

He'd probably drive an original Land Cruiser or a Benz 450SEL 6.9.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 46):
How about buying a Hummer?

Excellent, as long as it's an H1. Turns out they are great for driving across deserts. If you cannot get your hands on one of those, this might come in handy but it could be a bit pricey:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_MXT
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RE: What Car Should I Get In Dubai?

Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:33 pm

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 46):
Need a sturdy car? How about buying a Hummer?

pas chic.  

Alas, Madame, I grew up watching Marcello Mastroianni and love my Italian suits. He would not approve of me in a Hummer! I am a little guy like Sarkozy and you know what they say about little guys and big cars   Me, I need the right car to drive down La Strada! When I go by (always slowly) people will say, "Who is that Man?" or if they're French, "Il a un certain je ne sais quoi!" At my age, it is necessary to cultivate the right mystique, so my search continues.

I thank you and welcome your suggestions, and do know you are au fait in these matters.

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