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Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:09 am

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...b3c13baf8dcf2c4895a7fb620f18d0.6d1

MOSCOW — Russia's hard man Prime Minister Vladimir Putin pulled on a wetsuit Wednesday and went scuba diving at an ancient Greek Black Sea site in the latest populist stunt preceding next year's elections.

State news reports said he descended just two metres (6.6 feet) and "luckily" discovered two sixth century urns in full presence of the media, because the water was so clear.

Television footage showed two moss-covered vases with ear-like handles sitting neatly next to each other on top of the sandy bottom as Putin swam into view.

"Treasure!" a dripping wet Putin told reporters with a big grin. "They drank it all already," he added when asked if there was anything left in the jars.

Putin -- a novice only attempting his third scuba dive -- "came across" the objects during an expedition on the southern Russian coast near Ukraine.


What a schmuck and how gullible are the Russian people for "electing" this showman?

He has a semblance of a country built on oil reserves and paying off local olgiarchs for power, and this is what it comes to.... a Kim Jong-Il-esque story. From an American perspective, it's absolutely amazing how Russia has gone from one end of the spectrum to the other. Communist propaganda to Fascist propaganda. They still hate the west and play on Cold War tensions, but now its a race to see how gullible the local populace is.
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:19 am

Quoting jcs17 (Thread starter):
how gullible are the Russian people for "electing" this showman?

*shrug* about as gullible as Americans for re-electing Bush.
 
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:24 am

Quoting flood (Reply 1):

*shrug* about as gullible as Americans for re-electing Bush.

It is not as if we had a viable alternate choice...
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:31 am

Putin is pretty much the Chuck Norris of Eurasia.
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:33 am

Quoting flood (Reply 1):
*shrug* about as gullible as Americans for re-electing Bush.

Right. You're so much smarter than we are.

Dead leftist journalists against Putin vs. a leftist journalist population that essentially spewed propaganda against Bush and is still living and employed in the same news networks. Ahhh... the same thing....

I love leftists and their moral relativism.

[Edited 2011-08-13 22:34:43]
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:26 am

Quoting jcs17 (Thread starter):
What a schmuck and how gullible are the Russian people for "electing" this showman?


Well they did elect him for president but he was appointed PM. But yea I agree what a stunt do they really think this is real? Either way pretty funny idea but a bit clever.

Quoting flood (Reply 1):
*shrug* about as gullible as Americans for re-electing Bush.


I think gullible works more for President Obama and his "hope and change" now believing that is being gullible.
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:36 am

Quoting SCCutler (Reply 2):
Quoting flood (Reply 1):

*shrug* about as gullible as Americans for re-electing Bush.

It is not as if we had a viable alternate choice...

I would have thought that there was not much gullibility left lying around after the US fell for the Swift boat ads.
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:04 am

Quoting jcs17 (Thread starter):
What a schmuck and how gullible are the Russian people for "electing" this showman?

What position are you in to even begin telling me how "gullible" I am to have elected and voted for who I did? We vote based on our needs, just like the US of A does based on theirs.

Should I go ahead and tell start calling you gullible for your wonderful presidency runs on the other side of the pond from Russia? Sounds fantastic, maybe I should...
 
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:30 am

Quoting jpetekyxmd80 (Reply 3):
Putin is pretty much the Chuck Norris of Eurasia.

I hear that in Eurasia, advertisements for Dos Equis have Vladimir Putin in them.

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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:31 am

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 7):

What position are you in to even begin telling me how "gullible" I am to have elected and voted for who I did? We vote based on our needs, just like the US of A does based on theirs.

Should I go ahead and tell start calling you gullible for your wonderful presidency runs on the other side of the pond from Russia? Sounds fantastic, maybe I should...

No, because the state-owned media does it for you!
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:38 am

Quoting jcs17 (Reply 4):
I love leftists and their moral relativism.

As someone who is obviously right wing I would think you'd really like Putin and his politics.
 
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:43 pm

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 7):
What position are you in to even begin telling me how "gullible" I am to have elected and voted for who I did? We vote based on our needs, just like the US of A does based on theirs.

Of course you do but try explaining that to the US right wing with their characteristic blend of ignorance and arrogance.

Having said that Putin's 'strong man' PR acts are kinda funny and it does surprise me somewhat that they are apparently effective (otherwise he wouldn't do them). They are so transparent. Personally Medvedev comes across as a more level headed, moderate and mature politician but I guess he will be swept aside to facilitate Putin's return to office.

[Edited 2011-08-14 06:44:46]
 
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:02 pm

Quoting Mir (Reply 8):
I hear that in Eurasia, advertisements for Dos Equis have Vladimir Putin in them.

Later that day it was reported by Moscow media outlets that Putin bested Kim Jung Il's golf record and shot a 43 under par – including 6 holes in one.
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:14 am

Quoting ual777 (Reply 9):
Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 7):

What position are you in to even begin telling me how "gullible" I am to have elected and voted for who I did? We vote based on our needs, just like the US of A does based on theirs.

Should I go ahead and tell start calling you gullible for your wonderful presidency runs on the other side of the pond from Russia? Sounds fantastic, maybe I should...

No, because the state-owned media does it for you!

How about a thread on the comparative merits of systems where:

1. The government owns the media - apparently Russia.

AND

2. The media owns the government - apparently the USA.

Question, who is the more accountable - Putin who does have to get a majority in some sort of election, or Murdoch who has arranged the vote beforehand so that with something like 12% of News he is guaranteed a majority?
 
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:33 pm

Quoting jpetekyxmd80 (Reply 3):
Putin is pretty much the Chuck Norris of Eurasia.
Quoting Mir (Reply 8):
I hear that in Eurasia, advertisements for Dos Equis have Vladimir Putin in them.
Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 12):
Later that day it was reported by Moscow media outlets that Putin bested Kim Jung Il's golf record and shot a 43 under par – including 6 holes in one.

Putin vs. Chuck Norris - that's how Rocky IV should have been!! 

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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:09 pm

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 7):
Should I go ahead and tell start calling you gullible for your wonderful presidency runs on the other side of the pond from Russia? Sounds fantastic, maybe I should...

You definitely should buddy  
 
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:42 pm

Quoting Baroque (Reply 13):
The media owns the government - apparently the USA.

That's a pretty dissapointing comment from someone who generally appears to be level headed...care to explain that or do you usually make open ended statements with no basis for truth?
 
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:24 pm

Quoting tarheelwings (Reply 16):
Quoting Baroque (Reply 13):
The media owns the government - apparently the USA.

That's a pretty dissapointing comment from someone who generally appears to be level headed...care to explain that or do you usually make open ended statements with no basis for truth?

It might be open ended, but there is a degree of truth do you not think? The media seem to be influencing political actions in the US.

You can argue that they are reflecting independent political thought. But do you really think your media were neutral and analyticial during the tax/cut spending arguments a couple of weeks back.

It looks the other way round. That was the open part of it, and invitation to you - or anyone else - to show there is "no basis for truth", I would have put it no truth in the suggestion that the media exercises control over the US government.

If you are interested, I certainly think the media in Australia, especially a small number of talkback hosts and the Murdoch press attempt to set government agendas here. If you want a quick example study this one.

http://www.google.com/search?q=Abbot...fox-a&source=hp&channel=np
STEPHEN DZIEDZIC: Tony Abbott was unambiguous when the commercial radio host Alan Jones pushed him on coal seam gas mining and farmers late last week.

ALAN JONES: See, isn't this an area where you're going to have to be tough about all this. Landowners must have the last word surely on whether anyone can enter their property.

TONY ABBOTT: Alan, there is an old saying - an Englishman's home is his castle.

ALAN JONES: Well, it’s not.

TONY ABBOTT: Well, it should be and the thing is if, if you don't want something to happen on your land, you ought to have a right to say no. Now, okay, under certain circumstances the Government ought to be able to resume your land but it has got to be done at a fair price.


A bit later, Abbott has had to back down because mineral rights are vested with the states and NOT as in the US with the landowner. So even if he wanted to change the law and he were PM, he could not. Total mess, pushed by the media. Can you really say the equivalent to this never happens in the US????????
 
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:59 pm

Quoting Baroque (Reply 17):
It might be open ended, but there is a degree of truth do you not think? The media seem to be influencing political actions in the US.

Is there a degree of truth to that statement, no doubt, especially when you clarify your statement when you say the media seem to be influencing political actions in the US. However; there's a long way between that and "the media owns the government", wouldn't you agree?

Quoting Baroque (Reply 17):
You can argue that they are reflecting independent political thought. But do you really think your media were neutral and analyticial during the tax/cut spending arguments a couple of weeks back.

Of course they weren't neutral...but nobody is arguing that. I simply took issue with what appears to me to be an inaccurate statement.

Quoting Baroque (Reply 17):
It looks the other way round. That was the open part of it, and invitation to you - or anyone else - to show there is "no basis for truth", I would have put it no truth in the suggestion that the media exercises control over the US government.

If we're debating whether the media owns the government, I'll take issue with that every single time. If however the issue is whether the media influences political discourse, then yes, I would say there's a lot of truth to that statement....I would only caveat it with the fact that that's true for both sides of the political spectrum (and not just the right which is where I suspect you're going with this).

Quoting Baroque (Reply 17):
If you are interested, I certainly think the media in Australia, especially a small number of talkback hosts and the Murdoch press attempt to set government agendas here. If you want a quick example study this one.

Interesting and I'm sure there's a lot of truth in what you're saying, however, I would not presume to comment or even debate what you're saying simply because I do not live in Australia and am therefore not exposed to all the details associated with this issue.

Quoting Baroque (Reply 17):
Can you really say the equivalent to this never happens in the US????????

Can I say this kind of thing never happens in the US, of course not.........but I still do not believe that translates into the media owning the government. At the end of the day, it is incumbent on us as the general public to minimize outside influences and educate ourselves so that we can make informed decisions. Now, is the general public as informed as they should be.........that's another story 
 
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:01 pm

Quoting Baroque (Reply 17):
It might be open ended, but there is a degree of truth do you not think? The media seem to be influencing political actions in the US.

Is there a degree of truth to that statement, no doubt, especially when you clarify your statement when you say the media seem to be influencing political actions in the US. However; there's a long way between that and "the media owns the government", wouldn't you agree?

Quoting Baroque (Reply 17):
You can argue that they are reflecting independent political thought. But do you really think your media were neutral and analyticial during the tax/cut spending arguments a couple of weeks back.

Of course they weren't neutral...but nobody is arguing that. I simply took issue with what appears to me to be an inaccurate statement.

Quoting Baroque (Reply 17):
It looks the other way round. That was the open part of it, and invitation to you - or anyone else - to show there is "no basis for truth", I would have put it no truth in the suggestion that the media exercises control over the US government.

If we're debating whether the media owns the government, I'll take issue with that every single time. If however the issue is whether the media influences political discourse, then yes, I would say there's a lot of truth to that statement....I would only caveat it with the fact that that's true for both sides of the political spectrum (and not just the right which is where I suspect you're going with this).

Quoting Baroque (Reply 17):
If you are interested, I certainly think the media in Australia, especially a small number of talkback hosts and the Murdoch press attempt to set government agendas here. If you want a quick example study this one.

Interesting and I'm sure there's a lot of truth in what you're saying, however, I would not presume to comment or even debate what you're saying simply because I do not live in Australia and am therefore not exposed to all the details associated with this issue.

Quoting Baroque (Reply 17):
Can you really say the equivalent to this never happens in the US????????

Can I say this kind of thing never happens in the US, of course not.........but I still do not believe that translates into the media owning the government. At the end of the day, it is incumbent on us as the general public to minimize outside influences and educate ourselves so that we can make informed decisions.
 
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:53 pm

Gullible?......

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/George_W_Bush_on_the_deck_of_the_USS_Abraham_Lincoln.jpg/800px-George_W_Bush_on_the_deck_of_the_USS_Abraham_Lincoln.jpg



Priceless.....
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:14 am

Quoting Marcus (Reply 20):
Gullible?......
Quoting Marcus (Reply 20):
Priceless.....

To his credit, he IS actually a pilot....
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:42 am

Quoting ual777 (Reply 21):
To his credit, he IS actually a pilot....

True....but that is about it, the rest was a reelection stunt plain and simple.....
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:17 am

Quoting tarheelwings (Reply 18):
Quoting Baroque (Reply 17):
It might be open ended, but there is a degree of truth do you not think? The media seem to be influencing political actions in the US.

Is there a degree of truth to that statement, no doubt, especially when you clarify your statement when you say the media seem to be influencing political actions in the US. However; there's a long way between that and "the media owns the government", wouldn't you agree?

I think we both agree. There was some poetic licence in the original statement to which I replied, so not surprisingly there was similar licence in my response.

If we take the situation - but maybe keeping to one person in common - away from the US and Australia and go to the UK, we have seen a plethora of sort of apologies from MPs on both sides of their political divide hurrying to regret the extent to which they humoured Murdoch. And after seeing what Murdoch did to Kinnoch, you have to temper the blame.

The real worry as far as I can see, is that some of the media owners believe they can themselves set the political agenda. Even if it is not true (and I suspect it often IS true) that is a worry.

Crikey and other internet outlets might be excellent reading, but they just do not have the power of the traditional outlets.

It took the Murdoch owned The Australian quite a while to catch up that the Murdoch appearances before the HoC really was international news or should that be News??

Basically, I was just drawing attention to the possibility that while there are clear flaws in the Russian "democracy" our own versions are not exactly stain free.

Quoting Marcus (Reply 20):
Priceless.....

As Borat would have said, "Nice".
 
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:03 am

Quoting Mir (Reply 8):
I hear that in Eurasia, advertisements for Dos Equis have Vladimir Putin in them.

Dos Equis is a pretty middle of the pack, not to say bad beer so, it wouldn´t be beyond him. Like Corona, which is more piss water than beer.

Quoting wolbo (Reply 11):
Medvedev comes across as a more level headed, moderate and mature politician but I guess he will be swept aside to facilitate Putin's return to office.

True. But he is just a figurehead. Gillotine-headed.

Quoting Asturias (Reply 14):
Putin vs. Chuck Norris - that's how Rocky IV should have been!!

Well, wasn´t Putin´s ass kicked by a Chinese or Russian girl on a stunt of aikido that went bad (for Putin) a few years ago? If I remember correclty she threw him to the ground on his back. Priceless, too. There´s your Rocky IV for you.
 
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:05 pm

Quoting Marcus (Reply 22):
True....but that is about it, the rest was a reelection stunt plain and simple.....

Well, at least he did not "discover" lost historic artifacts or hit six holes-in-one in his first round of golf.

Quoting AR385 (Reply 24):
Dos Equis is a pretty middle of the pack, not to say bad beer so, it wouldn´t be beyond him. Like Corona, which is more piss water than beer.

I think he is referring to the awesome Dos Equis commercials in the U.S., who feature "the most interesting man in the world". Can't believe you guys in Mexico miss out on that.

http://www.youtube.com/user/dosequis...r?blend=7&ob=5#p/a/u/2/f45EVys_0T4

Quoting AR385 (Reply 24):
Well, wasn´t Putin´s ass kicked by a Chinese or Russian girl on a stunt of aikido that went bad (for Putin) a few years ago? If I remember correclty she threw him to the ground on his back. Priceless, too. There´s your Rocky IV for you.

That was a Japanese girl, and it was Judo. It didn't quite go the way you described it, though, but it was awesome - he was visiting a Dojo in Japan on an official state visit and totally out of the blue he asks a 14-ish year old girl that was just lined up there to throw him over her shoulder (she was wearing a kimono, he just had a regular suit). You could see the the look of sheer terror in this girl's face, with the cameras pointed at her... probably looking around at the heavily armed security detail and thinking "oh crap, if I mess this up and he gets hurt, I am so screwed..." I bet she won't be forgetting that moment anytime soon.
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:20 pm

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 25):
I think he is referring to the awesome Dos Equis commercials in the U.S., who feature "the most interesting man in the world". Can't believe you guys in Mexico miss out on that.

Different advertising agencies and markets. They wouldn´t make sense here to a lot of people, plus I´m not sure how the TV rights would work. Also, the brand probably has exclusivity rights with country-specific agencies.

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 25):
I bet she won't be forgetting that moment anytime soon.

Neither will Putin. But I do remember he was the laughing stock of the planet for a while.
 
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:06 am

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 10):
As someone who is obviously right wing I would think you'd really like Putin and his politics.

I am a right-wing libertarian. I believe in the smallest government possible, lowest taxes as possible, I don't care about social issues, but I do believe in a very strong national defense -- but in the context of democracy. Great, Obama was elected, I disagree with the voters decision, but it is what it is. It's American democracy. What Russia is today is a strongman government that relies on propaganda, violence, and rich olgiarchs largesse to secure their concept of democracy.

I wish the US and Russia were allies. That's not to mean that Russia has to help in Iraq or Afghanistan, but it does mean the end of the easy USSR-vs.-US-esque propaganda that the Russian government perpetrates (which plays well to the older generation Russian).
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:57 pm

Quoting Marcus (Reply 22):
True....but that is about it, the rest was a reelection stunt plain and simple.....

But a flight suit and fighter jet sure beats a POTus today who is literally peddling off his approval rating by the minute....

Such masculinity!

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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:06 pm

Quoting AR385 (Reply 26):
Neither will Putin. But I do remember he was the laughing stock of the planet for a while.

I'm pretty sure thats probably better than some of the retarded comments Mexican presidents tend to make, particularly Fox.
 
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:41 pm

Quoting jcs17 (Thread starter):
They still hate the west and play on Cold War tensions, but now its a race to see how gullible the local populace is.

Russians don't hate the west.

Quoting jcs17 (Reply 27):
but it does mean the end of the easy USSR-vs.-US-esque propaganda that the Russian government perpetrates (which plays well to the older generation Russian).

Happily enough the US government does the same. For example building rocket shields on the borders of Russia, totally against the earlier made agreements really helps building trust between the two largest nations on earth.
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:10 am

Quoting Severnaya (Reply 30):
Quoting jcs17 (Reply 27):
but it does mean the end of the easy USSR-vs.-US-esque propaganda that the Russian government perpetrates (which plays well to the older generation Russian).

Happily enough the US government does the same. For example building rocket shields on the borders of Russia, totally against the earlier made agreements really helps building trust between the two largest nations on earth.

Всяк глядит, да не всяк видит.

The real worry Severnaya is that it appears that many in the US do not seem at times to know when they complain of "easy USSR-vs.-US-esque propaganda" which side of the mirror they are observing.

But then propaganda seldom was really directed at the "enemy", it was usually directed at your "supporters".
 
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:00 pm

Quoting slider (Reply 28):
But a flight suit and fighter jet sure beats a POTus today who is literally peddling off his approval rating by the minute....

Such masculinity!

Easily the the most accurate statement on this whole thread ! Couldn't have said it better....................................
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:39 pm

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 7):
What position are you in to even begin telling me how "gullible" I am to have elected and voted for who I did? We vote based on our needs, just like the US of A does based on theirs.

Should I go ahead and tell start calling you gullible for your wonderful presidency runs on the other side of the pond from Russia? Sounds fantastic, maybe I should...

   Good on You

Quoting Severnaya (Reply 30):
Russians don't hate the west.

Not all of us hate you; some of Russia's haters probably have Russian DNA in them and don't even know it.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHfbpL0NDmw

Igor Stravinsky; enjoy:

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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:35 am

Quoting Severnaya (Reply 30):

Happily enough the US government does the same. For example building rocket shields on the borders of Russia, totally against the earlier made agreements really helps building trust between the two largest nations on earth.

No. If Russia's nuclear capability is what they say it is, they could overwhelm "Star Wars" in a second. Besides, if Russia has no intention of firing rockets at the US, why the perpetual paranoia? Yes, let me guess, the US wants to invade a country largely made of barren tundra, with little industrial or agricultural production, and with a good percent of alcoholics. Iraq looks better by the minute.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...1-600-jump-in-russia-holdings.html

Hmm... Putin called the US a parasite. I don't think the US engages in such talk.

Someone is running for re-election!

Russo-philes and Russians, I'd suggest that you take a look at the US in recession and compare it to Russia during happy times (read: expensive petrochemicals). Call me old fashioned, but I think I'll still go with Los Estados Unidos.
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RE: Really Vladimir Putin? Really Russia?

Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:05 am

Quoting jcs17 (Reply 34):
Besides, if Russia has no intention of firing rockets at the US, why the perpetual paranoia?

Paranoia of the US you mean by building rocket shields at our borders, thereby violating international treaties.

Quoting jcs17 (Reply 34):
Iraq looks better by the minute.

Why? The US invaded Iraq for the oil, Russia has much more natural reserves than Iraq.
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