einsteinboricua
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Job As A FA...worth It?

Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:19 am

So, I just returned from SEA (in a cocoon in first class with US...that was what I call the Envoy experience). Anyway, a FA who was off duty sat next to me and we chatted for a while about working with US and as a FA in general. I'm kinda pumped up because I've always wanted to work in the aviation industry whether as an ATC, pilot, airport crew, etc.

He mentioned starting out with regional carriers and work your way up since legacy carriers like people with experience, though there's the chance that the airlines might take anyone who can do the duties. He also mentioned how life is, where you're away for days at a time, often working holidays, night shifts, etc.

I'm currently in college studying computer engineering (yeah, I know they don't mix), but I'm not that fond of going to grad school so much anymore (it's still a possibility, I'm just not sure if I should go through the hassle). I assume many FAs have different BAs (if they have one) and I'm sure that would be a plus for an application.

Unless the UPR goes on strike again, I'm not gonna drop out, but I may just focus on finishing this degree and then search for a job up there. But I'd like to hear experiences from FAs here, whether they think it is a good job after all.
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RE: Job As A FA...worth It?

Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:23 am

Einstein,

Quoting einsteinboricua (Thread starter):
I'm not gonna drop out, but I may just focus on finishing this degree

I'm not an FA nor in the Aviation industry nor do I have a college degree, but you're obviously extremely intelligent otherwise you would not be getting an engineering degree, (which will help you immensely in your future endeavors).

But I do know one thing............STAY IN SCHOOL!!!

You can't go wrong keeping your focus there!

Best of luck,

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RE: Job As A FA...worth It?

Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:32 am

Quoting einsteinboricua (Thread starter):
He mentioned starting out with regional carriers and work your way up since legacy carriers like people with experience

Not true at all, at least not anymore. I, and several of my friends who are mainline F/As, were offered jobs with zero previous F/A experience (and, in one case, zero airline experience).

Quoting einsteinboricua (Thread starter):
I'm not gonna drop out

Good. Finish it up, because that's something you'll never regret doing.

Quoting einsteinboricua (Thread starter):
I'm currently in college studying computer engineering (yeah, I know they don't mix)

You could have a degree in Underwater European Basket Weaving, and you could get a job doing anything. There's no such thing as a BA or BS in Flight Attending, so anything goes.
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RE: Job As A FA...worth It?

Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:31 am

I advise that you be fluent in several languages if you want to work international routes. I mean fluency not babble. Russian is very much in demand at the moment.

If you speak let's say, English, Russian and one or two more European languages fluently then you have it made.
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RE: Job As A FA...worth It?

Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:26 am

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 3):
I advise that you be fluent in several languages if you want to work international routes. I mean fluency not babble. Russian is very much in demand at the moment.

I wholeheartedly disagree. If you want to get into corporate jets, Russian would be a good idea. But don't spend months/years of time and effort learning a language just for the sake of being an FA (good on you if you want to learn one anyway!). 99% of the FA's I know (working for BA, VS, U2 and more) speak only English, and had no problem getting a job.

If you can speak another language or want to learn one, great, it may help! But if not, don't worry unless they specifically ask for another language in their requirements.
 
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RE: Job As A FA...worth It?

Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:40 am

Quoting einsteinboricua (Thread starter):
I'm currently in college studying computer engineering (yeah, I know they don't mix),

Finish that!!

Quoting einsteinboricua (Thread starter):
but I'm not that fond of going to grad school so much anymore (it's still a possibility, I'm just not sure if I should go through the hassle).

Don't do that now if you feel that way about it. You can always go back later.

Quoting einsteinboricua (Thread starter):
I assume many FAs have different BAs (if they have one) and I'm sure that would be a plus for an application.

Maybe, maybe not. It shows you can make it through a training program for sure, but I'm not sure there is an abundance of FA's out there with college degrees. I'd say the percentage of FAs with a bachelor's degree or higher is significantly lower than in other industries and even in the same--most pilots, A&Ps, ATC, etc have them. Then again, I've met a FA with a PhD. A degree can't hurt though, for sure.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 3):
I advise that you be fluent in several languages if you want to work international routes. I mean fluency not babble. Russian is very much in demand at the moment.

      Take on this, and you could pretty much write your ticket to a dream FA job.
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RE: Job As A FA...worth It?

Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:40 am

Quoting TupolevTu154 (Reply 4):
If you can speak another language or want to learn one, great, it may help! But if not, don't worry unless they specifically ask for another language in their requirement

I used to work for Air France in their language school, so I know a little about their language requiements.

All F/As had to be able to maintain a certain level of English, job-specific and basic conversation. In order to be promoted to Chef de Cabine (purser) their level of English also had to be improved. Also, German and Spanish courses were offered by the school, a small increase in salary was offered if they maintained a certain level in these languages.

Quoting TupolevTu154 (Reply 4):
learning a language just for the sake of being an FA

When I had an interview to be an F/A at Easyjet, no other language was required, other than English. A small salary raise was offfered (about £100 per year I recall per language) if you could speak other languages.

As the OP is from Puerto Rico, I think it's safe to say he speaks both English and Spanish - so has most of the American continent covered from that point of view  

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RE: Job As A FA...worth It?

Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:24 pm

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 3):
I advise that you be fluent in several languages if you want to work international routes.

Well, I'm fluent in both Spanish and English and I previously created a post about learning more languages and though I have a basic knowledge on French, I still think I can learn another language. Funny you should mention Russian as it's a very interesting language.

Quoting signol (Reply 6):
As the OP is from Puerto Rico, I think it's safe to say he speaks both English and Spanish - so has most of the American continent covered from that point of view

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RE: Job As A FA...worth It?

Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:49 am

I've been with 3 carriers, one as a mechanic, and 2 as FA. I worked for TWA in the Mx Dept. I was there for less than 2 years, went to World Airways as an FA, furloughed after 16 months, and then went to NW(now DL) and have been there for 14 years. And through all the changing of companies, my FA years have been the best. It hasn't been easy, but I look at it as "have never worked a day since" I started. I walked away from turning wrenches to go to cabin service, and I've never regretted it. But I think you have the right idea, finishing up your studies is a wise decision. There will always be jobs in the airlines.
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RE: Job As A FA...worth It?

Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:36 am

If you are bi-lingual it certainly helps getting hired when airlines are only taking bi-lingual cabin crew hires during hiring "freezes" and slow periods of the year. This year alone, some of the "majors" and LCCs have been hiring for multi-language and not just exclusively. A good time to get your feet wet so-to-speak.

If you're in school right now, then by all means finish it and then go into the field. That is what I did because it gives you something to fall back on or more power to advance in the industry. The evolution of the industry is ever-changing. You either love it or hate it and evolve with it. With that said:

There is no other job out there that has no desk and not your typical factory hours of 9-5 and staring at the same faces on a daily basis with the same dull scenery at the end of the day. I have my freedom to go anywhere at a moment's notice at my will, no boss or bosses breathing down my neck, I fly for free or almost-free on other airliners world-wide. What other job can I have off over 20 days a month and still be full-time and get my hours in at 4 trips or over in 10 working days for the month? I have been with the airlines as a cabin crew for several years and I would not give this up for the world. I love my job and the people specifically at my company--I have never had a job where I want to come to work OR want to go back to after a few days off. It's a big lifestyle change in the beginning, but you get used to it eventually. In summary:

It can be the easiest job or it can be the hardest at times all in a moments notice; you will be prepared for it and that's what our intense training is for. I have never had to wear so many "hats" at once on some days. Of course there are bad days and good days (the good far more outweigh the bad of course) and when you land in a new city or country, your job is done and your work stays on the plane. There is always something to learn despite what people perceive on the outside looking in when we are "just" pouring a soda. We have a huge responsibility.

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RE: Job As A FA...worth It?

Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:06 am

Quoting Elevated (Reply 9):

I guess you hit the nail on why I want to be working inside an airplane: I don't see myself at a desk job. I don't see myself staring at a desktop monitor for 8 hours a day for 30 years. The dynamic of working with people is very attractive to me. The view changes every time and I'm pretty sure that just like snowflakes, there are never two identical flights.
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RE: Job As A FA...worth It?

Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:09 pm

Quoting signol (Reply 6):
a small increase in salary was offered if they maintained a certain level in these languages.

Do airlines actually test you when you say you speak another language(s)? Is there a written and verbal part?
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RE: Job As A FA...worth It?

Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:53 pm

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 11):
Do airlines actually test you when you say you speak another language(s)? Is there a written and verbal part?

At DL, It's done over the phone, with an outsourced company, and you schedule a time to take it
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