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Perry Leads GOP In Newest Poll

Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:17 pm

Looks like red meat overrides speaking gaffes:

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Buoyed by his recent entry into the 2012 presidential contest, Texas Gov. Rick Perry has jumped past former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and leads the GOP field for the first time, according to a new Gallup poll of Republican voters.

The national survey showed Perry leading Romney by a double-digit margin—29% to 17%. It also found that Michele Bachmann got no significant bounce from her victory in an Iowa straw poll, which was overshadowed by Perry’s announcement speech the same day.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...erry-poll-20110824,0,7837911.story

The odd part, further down the story:

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The new national poll showed Perry doing particularly well among Southerners, voters over 65 and those who attend church weekly. He outperformed Romney among all age groups and among those who describe themselves as conservatives, a key GOP primary group.
 
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RE: Perry Leads GOP In Newest Poll

Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:24 pm

Quoting Ken777 (Thread starter):
Looks like red meat overrides speaking gaffes:

Especially when the gaffes aren't really gaffes. I loved how MSNBC cut and chopped another vid to make in appear he was comparing civil rights to taxes. The reason the polls don't reflect what the pro left thinks are unacceptable remarks are they are manufactured. His Bernanke statment was probably the only one worth raising an eyebrow, and he was spot on anyway he just used the wrong terms to express it.

You should also have included this as well.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...ther-paul-romney-perry-or-bachmann

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RE: Perry Leads GOP In Newest Poll

Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:34 pm

Perry is clearly the favorite to take the GOP nod. I wish the media would quit showing Palin thinking she might run or might not run or might just think about it some more so she gets her face on the boob tube.
 
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RE: Perry Leads GOP In Newest Poll

Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:36 pm

Quoting fxramper (Reply 2):
Perry is clearly the favorite to take the GOP nod. I wish the media would quit showing Palin thinking she might run or might not run or might just think about it some more so she gets her face on the boob tube.

Palin running would be the dumbest thing at this point.
1. It would kill the suspense and rob her of attention
2. She would lose a lot of lucrative speaking engagements in order to run.

I just don't see her getting in this race.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 1):
You should also have included this as well.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...hmann

Interesting article, especially when it points out how far off it has been when it comes down to the final vote 14-15 months later.
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RE: Perry Leads GOP In Newest Poll

Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:50 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 3):
Palin running would be the dumbest thing at this point.
1. It would kill the suspense and rob her of attention
2. She would lose a lot of lucrative speaking engagements in order to run.

I just don't see her getting in this race.

She isn't. IMO if she doesn't seize the chance to win the AZ senate seat she is very foolish. As it stands now she has no shot at winning the presidency but does probably win the AZ senate race easily. This now puts her on the real political stage for the next 6 years and her star grows for down the road. Then even if Rubio, Christie and Cuomo dominate in 2016 she can stay in the Senate and still be viable.

Now that Perry has overshadowed her it's her only way. If she doesn't she will fade into obscurity and the speaking money will dry up.

Quoting casinterest (Reply 3):
Interesting article, especially when it points out how far off it has been when it comes down to the final vote 14-15 months later.




Still very shocking I bet if you asked Axlerod on inaguration day he would have never dremth of this.
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RE: Perry Leads GOP In Newest Poll

Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:19 pm

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 1):
Especially when the gaffes aren't really gaffes.

Personally I believe the evolution or creationism discussion with a little kid was pretty dumb.

And stuffing food in his mouth to avoid answering a question was pretty funny. The first time. With the questions Perry needs to address before Election Night 2012 - well that approach will help the dude gain 75 pounds.  

His comments about being a "job creator" - when the private sector jobs were lost and he had to depend on increases in government jobs. High risk to brag about that when it can come back at you.

Government jobs? That the GO(T)P Way?         

Quoting fxramper (Reply 2):

Perry is clearly the favorite to take the GOP nod.

At least this week.

Perry hasn't been the brightest spark when challenged with vigorous questioning.

And questioning will only get more vigorous in the future.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 4):
This now puts her on the real political stage for the next 6 years and her star grows for down the road.

How old will Sarah be in 6 or 7 years? The looks will age, wrinkles increasing, all that stuff. Sarah will be easy to replace by some gal better looking. Especially if they get Palin's speech writers.
 
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RE: Perry Leads GOP In Newest Poll

Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:31 pm

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 5):
And questioning will only get more vigorous in the future.

Bring it on.

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 5):
How old will Sarah be in 6 or 7 years? The looks will age, wrinkles increasing, all that stuff. Sarah will be easy to replace by some gal better looking. Especially if they get Palin's speech writers.

Have you ever been to a Palin rally? Average age is prob 65.
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RE: Perry Leads GOP In Newest Poll

Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:54 pm

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 7):
Average age is prob 65.

That is the voter's age - not the woman's.
 
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RE: Perry Leads GOP In Newest Poll

Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:12 pm

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 8):
That is the voter's age - not the woman's.

They probably wont be alive to vote her in. If she's counting on those votes than she is playing with fire. Perry needs to establish he's not like Bush in order to gain respect by the people as a whole and especially those who dislike Obama in his own party. So far, he's a replica and is just getting the same people's support that are loyal bush supporters. If Bush was running again he'd get the same support.
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RE: Perry Leads GOP In Newest Poll

Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:24 pm

Quoting goblin211 (Reply 9):
Perry needs to establish he's not like Bush in order to gain respect by the people as a whole

Perry needs to get an intellect in order to gain respect of the people as a whole. The guy was probably well suited being an Aggie Cheerleader (especially if they didn't have blond broads enrolled at the time   ) but he isn't even up to W's level.

Can you see asking him about the G8? He'd start talking about a car that Pontiac used to sell that was made in Austria.
 
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RE: Perry Leads GOP In Newest Poll

Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:55 am

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 5):
How old will Sarah be in 6 or 7 years?

I'd still hit it in 6 years.

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 5):

At least this week.

Perry hasn't been the brightest spark when challenged with vigorous questioning.

He still looks smarter than Obama with his boorish fumbling telepromter drivel. I'm not Perry rah rah supporter, but unless Axelrod can dig up some State Trooper footage of a Perry motorcade coming out of Dripping Springs, Texas some time a go Obama is sunk.   
 
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RE: Perry Leads GOP In Newest Poll

Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:01 am

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 8):
That is the voter's age - not the woman's.



Oh no it was the woman who were yelling and cheering for her. I was surrounded!
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RE: Perry Leads GOP In Newest Poll

Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:12 am

Quoting fxramper (Reply 2):
I wish the media would quit showing Palin thinking she might run...

  
Agreed!
The mainstream media loves to shine the light on Sarah Palin. She isn't running and doesn't deserve the attention she is getting. I know the Obama White House would love to have her as the opponent. That isn't going to happen.

Rick Perry certainly wouldn't be my first choice. If I were a Republican, I'd vote for Gary Johnson. He deserves more attention.
People don't even have to like Rick Perry in order for him to win. It may be similar to Nixon vs McGovern.
McGovern was a likable guy just like Obama, yet the voters knew that Nixon was the right man for the job at that time. Nixon was not a likable person and that is partially why he was nicknamed 'Tricky Dick'. He may have been an a--hole, but he was an a--hole that put our country first unlike the wishy-washy dovish McGovern.
I can see the 2012 election between Obama and Perry playing out like that. It won’t be as big of a landslide as 1972 but people my hold their nose and vote for Perry even though they may not like him personally and his personal views.
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RE: Perry Leads GOP In Newest Poll

Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:32 pm

Quoting fxramper (Reply 11):
He still looks smarter than Obama with his boorish fumbling telepromter drivel.

Perry might have all the enthusiasm of the cheerleader that he was, but his main challenge right now is Willard Mitt Romney. Willard has been pretty quiet for a while, but he also has been building his bankroll. It's foolish to think the Romney team isn't looking really hard at Perry's Texas Miracle, getting the adds ready.

Stuff like "Perry Built Jobs with Government Workers - Private Industry Jobs Shrank".
 
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RE: Perry Leads GOP In Newest Poll

Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:41 pm

Right now what you have is the honeymoon period. This will end when people get a better idea as to what his positions are and if they agree with him or not.
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RE: Perry Leads GOP In Newest Poll

Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:54 am

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 13):
Stuff like "Perry Built Jobs with Government Workers - Private Industry Jobs Shrank".

That's not true. Private sector jobs in Texas have grown 10% since December 2000. Government jobs (local, state, federal) grew 19%
 
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RE: Perry Leads GOP In Newest Poll

Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:58 am

I am amused by the notion that Governor Perry is an intellectual lightweight by comparison to President Obama.

First of all, I think you underestimate Governor Perry; but of greater significance, one need only observe the utter and complete absence of common-sense, honor, honesty or integrity exhibited by President Obama, to realize: all the intellect in the world cannot overcome weak character.
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RE: Perry Leads GOP In Newest Poll

Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:08 am

Quoting sccutler (Reply 16):
one need only observe the utter and complete absence of common-sense, honor, honesty or integrity exhibited by President Obama, to realize: all the intellect in the world cannot overcome weak character.

  
Amen to that!
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