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Obama Fried Chicken Opens In China.

Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:13 pm

I'm going to look for one next trip to China.   

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Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:47 pm

China, true to form: stealing ideas. There's been one of these in Brooklyn for a while now.  

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Sun Oct 02, 2011 6:02 pm

I wonder what Chinese copyright laws are like? KFC would quash this in a second here.
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Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:51 pm

It's official now... China is trolling the U.S.
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RE: Obama Fried Chicken Opens In China.

Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:09 pm

Quoting fxramper (Thread starter):
I'm going to look for one next trip to China.  

Since you're willing to go thru all that trouble..you should do it right and go in 'Blackface'..

..you'll be a utube sensation!

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Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:01 am

Pattaya, Thailand already has a restaurant named Obama.

Not sure how popular fried chicken is in Kenya but it is very popular among Asians, especially Chinese. I seriously doubt Barack Hussein Obama would know how to run a restaurant of any sort.
This does go to show that Obama has little to no respect internationally. Only western Europe and Kenya seems to still like him.
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Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:17 am

I heard the restaurant is now serving both left wings and right wings!
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RE: Obama Fried Chicken Opens In China.

Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:51 am

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 9):
I heard the restaurant is now serving both left wings and right wings!

Well done, very clever

Quoting Superfly (Reply 8):
This does go to show that Obama has little to no respect internationally. Only western Europe and Kenya seems to still like him.

I agree. I live, (sort of) in China and they seem generally bemused about Obama. However China is getting a growing superiority complex about the success of it's political system and quietly turns it's nose up at any democracy.
 
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Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:23 am

Quoting kiwiinoz (Reply 10):
I agree. I live, (sort of) in China and they seem generally bemused about Obama.

Same here in Thailand but of course they'll still sale his t-shirts to gullible European tourist to make a few extra dollar$.  
Quoting kiwiinoz (Reply 10):
However China is getting a growing superiority complex about the success of it's political system and quietly turns it's nose up at any democracy.

You think China only does this to democracies? I doubt it.
I do admire China for thumbing its nose up to proponents of one world government and the UN. I wish more countries would do the same.

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RE: Obama Fried Chicken Opens In China.

Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:58 am

Quoting kiwiinoz (Reply 10):
I live, (sort of) in China and they seem generally bemused about Obama. However China is getting a growing superiority complex about the success of it's political system and quietly turns it's nose up at any democracy.

I agree, and I've also lived in a large Chinese city and if anyone has done their homework and knows chinese history..this can grow into huge problem in the future. This superiority complex mirrors that of 1930s Japan in confidence and attitude. An contrary to Superfly's beliefs.. this match was lit long before Obama arrived on the scene and has nothing to do him.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 11):
I do admire China for thumbing its nose up to proponents of one world government and the UN. I wish more countries would do the same

China's not doing this in the style of Fide Castro's middle finger gesture as you think..it's a different kind of ball game, and not a good or innocuous one.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 8):
Only western Europe and Kenya seems to still like him.

I take it that Tea Party/GOP membership has arrived in the mail.. because that kind of wayward 'shake n bake' assessment couldn't be further from the truth.

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RE: Obama Fried Chicken Opens In China.

Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:51 am

Quoting BN747 (Reply 12):
An contrary to Superfly's beliefs.. this match was lit long before Obama arrived on the scene and has nothing to do him.

Superfly never blamed Obama for any of this.

Quoting BN747 (Reply 12):
China's not doing this in the style of Fide Castro's middle finger gesture as you think..it's a different kind of ball game, and not a good or innocuous one.

Well aware of that and I know China is far from perfect. I just like to see more countries give the middle finger to the United Nations.

Quoting BN747 (Reply 12):
I take it that Tea Party/GOP membership has arrived in the mail.. because that kind of wayward 'shake n bake' assessment couldn't be further from the truth.

Umm ok, tourist from western Europe visiting other parts of the world seem to still love him.
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Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:12 pm

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 9):
I heard the restaurant is now serving both left wings and right wings!

And will be serving roast donkey next November!
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Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:53 pm

Quoting Revelation (Reply 12):
And will be serving roast donkey next November!

Too early for that. The way things are going, I may find elephant meat on the menu as well.
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RE: Obama Fried Chicken Opens In China.

Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:26 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):

This does go to show that Obama has little to no respect internationally. Only western Europe and Kenya seems to still like him.

Obama is well liked all over the world, even in China, and they traditionally don't have the greatest regard for US presidents. Chinese society is still very racist compared to the West, and it's no wonder they look down on Obama somewhat. It's not pretty, and the anti-Obama crowd really should look elsewhere for finding material to put the man down.
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Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:00 pm

Quoting Rara (Reply 14):
Obama is well liked all over the world, even in China,

That was true in 2008.
Obama is still very popular in western Europe, Africa and small liberal pockets in the US but that's about it.

Quoting Rara (Reply 14):
Chinese society is still very racist compared to the West, and it's no wonder they look down on Obama somewhat.

That is true but the fried chicken stereotype isn't well known outside of the US and certainly not in China. If anything, its an unfortunate coincidence and in the ad, they're emphasizing the 'cool' factor of Obama.
Despite his horrible job performance, he is still considered 'cool' by many people.

Quoting Rara (Reply 14):
the anti-Obama crowd really should look elsewhere for finding material to put the man down.

Yes he has screwed up so much and there are so many other things that are more relevant to accurately criticize Obama.
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Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:30 pm

Guys, could we keep this going as just a funny thread? There are plenty of Obama bashing threads on a.net that pop up religiously every day.

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Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:58 pm

Quoting comorin (Reply 16):
Guys, could we keep this going as just a funny thread? There are plenty of Obama bashing threads on a.net that pop up religiously every day.

First off, there's nothing funny about the thread - when it is introduced by a certain type of right-wing hater of Obama (and I mean the type that despised him from the very start). This thread was made in the same vain as the GOP official who sent postcards of the Obama White House littered with watermelons all over the gardens & lawns. He thought it was funny..and still to this very day hasn't a clue as to what he did wrong. This 'funny joke' here, is presented in the same vain of thinking. But again..it's about who is presenting it. On average, the typical American possess a centered and balanced characteristic sense of 'fairness' and fair play'... it's better known as 'give the guy a chance' perspective. It applies in everything competitive from little league baseball all the way up to the Presidency. America has been about that for decades..among the average populace that is. Except when race is involved..suddenly that (among some still) that offer of understanding is withdrawn and suddenly has a much shorter leash or none at all.

When a person is the type to consistently slam a person of color (any color) and never champion or cheer the same when such is warranted or deserved - it smacks clearly of racial animosity and disgust. Only fool pretends 'more investigation' is required. It works the same way when you hear a male endlessly making hateful comments about women - it's clear what his problem is. Same applies here. So the problem lies with who introduces the 'joke' a person with a known predisposed dislike of the type people or person or one that is known to be completely neutral on such matters. In this case, it points more toward the former.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 15):
That is true but the fried chicken stereotype isn't well known outside of the US and certainly not in China. If anything, its an unfortunate coincidence and in the ad, they're emphasizing the 'cool' factor of Obama.

You couldn't be more wrong, the infamous 'Darkie' toothpaste commercials ran endlessly on chinese tv in the 70s and can still be found on the internet. America exported it's (past) racists stereotypes/views as if they were selling like hot cakes. Simply look at any WWII film or show depicting black and white troops abroad and on recreational time with the locals - and how white Americans were emphatic on imposing homegrown racism on foreign turf because they didn't like the equal acceptance extended to their black fellow soldiers. Look at what American did during the building of the Panama Canal in the early 1900s - split the races with a knife..after they'd manage to peacefully co-exist for quite some time.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 15):
That was true in 2008.
Obama is still very popular in western Europe, Africa and small liberal pockets in the US but that's about it.

Your own personal view which does not cancel out Rara's personal take (which I believe to be much more accurate).

Quoting Superfly (Reply 15):

Despite his horrible job performance, he is still considered 'cool' by many people.

Probably because more people have a better understanding of the unjust and unfair attacks coming at him than you do. Just last week my mail lady was telling me 'that because she was still engaged in deliveries beyond 7pm ..a few neighbors growled that the Postal Service was a mess because of Obama. For me that was the last straw..I could not believe that people were thsi ignorant - here anyway. This - in liberal lily white (and Persian) Beverly Hills. If some here have gone this far off the rails to buy into the TeaParty/GOP's hate-him-at-all-cost full on assault strategy.. the American people are dumber than Bill Maher insist they are. Or perhaps I just have stupid neighbors (the case can be made there too). Nonetheless, the comments I seen here and in other Obama hatefest threads proves the TeaParty/GOP spin has some validity and reach. It was Bush that got 100,000s killed over a BS lie, not Obama. It was Bush that lorded over the economy crashing and burning into flames - not Obama. And if you listen to some on these boards - you'd swear it was the other way around. I think the issue that irks me the most .. is the people who should know better - seem to be eating it up like hot buttered waffles. I expect the usual suspects to pander their schtick, it's their nature.. but for those who are choosing to fold and buy into this silliness is just mind boggling.

Their evaluation skills must be called into question..just 3 weeks ago - you can see it in the threads here - they were near sexual orgasm as Rick Perry entered the race. You didn't have to be a social studies or civics professor to see this guy was a moron. He had laid it all out years earlier with his 'Texas should succeed' and other clownish conduct. But some people managed to just 'ignore' all that and say ..here we go ....we've got a real leader! Then they discover - or should I say -RE-discovered that he's dumber than a box of rocks and more crooked than ficus twig! If you had to wait to see it on tv after all that has gone before... you should not make your opinions known and expect people to believe -for a second- that you know what you're talking about. Because you clearly you do not. It's beyond amazing at how many people somehow need to re-live the Bush years to jump start their memories what a disaster that was. A part of me wishes the election was held today. so that Perry would win and they'd have their wish - GWB II, and it would be worse than McCain would have been. When dumb mistakes are repeated, the outcome is well deserved.

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RE: Obama Fried Chicken Opens In China.

Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:02 am

Quoting BN747 (Reply 16):
You couldn't be more wrong, the infamous 'Darkie' toothpaste commercials ran endlessly on chinese tv in the 70s and can still be found on the internet. America exported it's (past) racists stereotypes/views as if they were selling like hot cakes.

Ok so who is the American responsible for the OFC in China?
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Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:38 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):
Quoting BN747 (Reply 16):
You couldn't be more wrong, the infamous 'Darkie' toothpaste commercials ran endlessly on chinese tv in the 70s and can still be found on the internet. America exported it's (past) racists stereotypes/views as if they were selling like hot cakes.

Ok so who is the American responsible for the OFC in China?

A TeaParty Member? Who knows and who cares...? I was simply addressing your minimizing the reach of past exported American brand racism and the negative overtones of 'this supposed joke' and the motives behind posting.

You're quite resourceful...you'll figure it out.

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Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:57 am

Quoting BN747 (Reply 18):
I was simply addressing your minimizing the reach of past exported American brand racism

No I wasn't. Keep in mind, Europe exported lots of racism as well.

Quoting BN747 (Reply 18):
'this supposed joke'

I see nothing funny about it. Perhaps the thread starter can explain this one.


Fried Chicken is very popular in Asia.

There is a lot of lack of understanding of the western world in the Far East. Just last week here in Thailand, a school put on a Nazi parade. The students were dressed in full Nazi military uniform with the Nazi flag and even had Nazi rifles. This was meant to be a fun, festive show for the parents at an expensive private school. The school administrators didn't understand why there was outrage from the westerners that watched. They honestly didn't have any intentions of angering anyone. They just simply didn't know that side of European history. In fact, the average person here isn't aware of the genocide of the Khmer Rouge next door just 1 generation ago.
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Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:49 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 19):

Quoting BN747 (Reply 18):
I was simply addressing your minimizing the reach of past exported American brand racism

No I wasn't. Keep in mind, Europe exported lots of racism as well.

Yes they have ...but in a more subtle manner. They exported products are apples and oranges.. simply look at the way blacks were treated in 1930s, 40s France vs the US.

Europeans exported divisiveness and superiority. America exported those two plus stinging dehumanization and a structured methodical procedures of how the practice was to be executed and maintained. More like South Africa's Apartheid if that could have exported. Big difference.

As for the Thailand Nazi festival...I'm sure it's not the only one going on around the globe by the lesser informed.

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Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:44 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 19):

Quoting BN747 (Reply 18):
I was simply addressing your minimizing the reach of past exported American brand racism

No I wasn't. Keep in mind, Europe exported lots of racism as well.

Europe has evolved. Europe and Europeans deserve a great deal of credit for that.
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Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:17 am

Quoting cws818 (Reply 21):

Quoting Superfly (Reply 19):

Quoting BN747 (Reply 18):
I was simply addressing your minimizing the reach of past exported American brand racism

No I wasn't. Keep in mind, Europe exported lots of racism as well.

Europe has evolved. Europe and Europeans deserve a great deal of credit for that.

You are aware that we are discussing past events that lead to current (and fading) conditions...right?

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Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:33 am

Quoting cws818 (Reply 21):
Europe has evolved. Europe and Europeans deserve a great deal of credit for that.

They have?   
That is what they're telling you but that is far from the truth.
Explain all of the monkey chats and bananas thrown at soccer players of African origin throughout Europe today?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmOzkPRrRlw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j59BiLwdNO8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzLECtFT4aU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRKk2K3fMk0

...and you say Europe has "evolved"?

Quoting BN747 (Reply 20):
As for the Thailand Nazi festival...I'm sure it's not the only one going on around the globe by the lesser informed.

Can't compare this festival to the same sort of ignorance going on in Eastern Europe with their Nazi activity.
The festival by the school here in Thailand was meant to be a sweet & innocent parade by school children. It as not meant to insult Jews, Gypsies, handicap and all others murdered by the Nazis.
This school parade was very unfortunate and goes to show a lack of understanding of Western history.
Today’s Nazi activity in the streets of Russia, Ukraine and other Eastern European nations is violent and is responsible for the deaths of hundreds and thousands of injuries of immigrants from Africa, Asia and the Middle-East.
Even though the Nazis hated Slavic people, it hasn't stopped some ignorant Slavs in Eastern Europe from carrying out murder in the name of Nazism.
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Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:10 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
That is true but the fried chicken stereotype isn't well known outside of the US and certainly not in China

I just like the fact that there is a "fried chicken stereotype". Sounds kind of wierd. There has been a time in life where I could have also been stereotyped as the "fried chicken guy".

Also, I have heard of the "watermelon stereotype" before but don't know what this is. Could someone explain?

I agree that the stereotype probably has nothing to do with this OFC thing. It is more likely plugging into the Chinese love of American cultural icons and fried chicken, (They go through buckets like crazy!)
 
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Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:55 am

Quoting kiwiinoz (Reply 24):
fried chicken stereotype
Quoting kiwiinoz (Reply 24):
watermelon stereotype

Don't forget the collard greens stereotype

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Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:19 am

Quoting kiwiinoz (Reply 24):
Also, I have heard of the "watermelon stereotype" before but don't know what this is. Could someone explain?

The Fried Chicken & Watermelon 'slanderous history' is birthed in pre-Civil War USA. It comes from a fraudulent attempt by Southern whites of the era which expressed Blacks as a people were lazy and preferred to do nothing but eat fried chicken and watermelon. The oddest thing of all is -- that whites loved it more because they could 'afford' to have it more. Black slaves were not feed the best foods in order to sustain their much needed and profitable work/labor by their owners no more than you feed your dog or cat - foods that is more costly or tastier than that which you consume. Black slaves in many cases were feed equal to worse than some most animals - maximum profit is gained with minimum investment. Watermelon was cheap (still is) and thus because of the ubiquitous sweet tooth pandemic of the age - was used as an enticement or 'reward' for good long hard day's work. As was such simple items as biscuits and chicken - common staples of regulars meals for their owners. Blacks were feed the most disgusting remnants of slaughtered pigs, cows or poultry. Thus the common listings of chicken feet (yep the yellow things) pigs feet, etc. in many black eateries today - it has a history traced directly back to that time. But that was if they were lucky..usually the staple consisted of some sort of oats, grains or soups and some bread. A pigs tail or chicken neck (which was garbage or for the dogs) thrown in for flavor.

If you are a carne-phile or meat eater...and for instance 'you love ribeye steaks' but for an extended period forcefully restricted to grains and oats and the parts of a pig your owner refused to eat..and one day after many, you are rewarded a giant slab of ribeye, you'll practically inhale it. When slaves were rewarded with a chicken dinner and watermelon deserts after long drawn out periods of time, they most likely consumed it like a starving dog.. therefore a constantly well-fed slave owner observed and most likely agreed with other slave owners 'them n*ggers love themselves some chicken and watermelon'! And the hypocrisy/false stigma was born. And stuck like glue among American racist mindsets.

Quoting homer71 (Reply 25):
Don't forget the collard greens stereotype

Yep..an original slave staple.

Then the Asian immigrants were called lazy while building Americas railroads. Then the Latinos were called lazy while while toiling in the hot sun to pick America's fruits and vegetables. Then the South Vietnamese were 'shiftless and lazy' for being not more enthusiastic during that campaign. And strangely enough, I recall a member here during the recent Iraq Invasion actually calling the Iraqis 'shiftless and lazy' for not 'stepping up and helping the Americans 'liberate' them in a manner than suited him.

American have a long and storied bogus history of disparaging people who do the exact same things they do - but who just happen to be ethnically different. And some Americans simply just cannot let it go.

In America, more whites consume more Fried Chicken and watermelon than blacks (or anyone else for that matter) because of their sheer numbers in the general population..blacks only make up 12-13% of the US population. Nearly ever political (and non-political) event or fundraiser serves fried chicken or some kind of chicken - and who attends those ? Blacks? Few... and if you were to package and propose some joke that 'whites love some fried chicken and watermelon' as true as it is, it would go over like a lead balloon, because the stereotype took root decades ago and will be around as long as this type of racism can endure. Nonetheless, the stereotype born some 150+ years ago was created and made to stick by those in power - and someone saw fit to start this thread because the temptation to do so was too good to pass up. Believe you me... it was not done out for respect for Mr. Obama, it was done as veiled way to slip in a racist jab disguised as a joke. As I said above..you must consider who it is that's delivering you the message.

Quoting kiwiinoz (Reply 24):
I agree that the stereotype probably has nothing to do with this OFC thing. It is more likely plugging into the Chinese love of American cultural icons and fried chicken, (They go through buckets like crazy!)

You mean you 'hope' it does not. Maybe it does...maybe it does not, we won't know until we get a honest accounting from the founder. I for one am not holding my breath for one.


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Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:28 am

Quoting BN747 (Reply 20):
Yes they have ...but in a more subtle manner. They exported products are apples and oranges.. simply look at the way blacks were treated in 1930s, 40s France vs the US.

Europeans exported divisiveness and superiority.

Just to be clear, the 'triangle trade' system (North America - Europe - Africa) that was the driving force behind slavery in North America (and the Caribbean too) was set up by Europeans long before there was a United States of America.
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RE: Obama Fried Chicken Opens In China.

Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:44 pm

Quoting BN747 (Reply 4):
Since you're willing to go thru all that trouble..you should do it right and go in 'Blackface'..

  

Quoting Superfly (Reply 10):
Quoting BN747 (Reply 12):
I take it that Tea Party/GOP membership has arrived in the mail.. because that kind of wayward 'shake n bake' assessment couldn't be further from the truth.

Umm ok, tourist from western Europe visiting other parts of the world seem to still love him.

Oh please, your talking points over the last few years have all been straight out of the Tea Party handbook.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
Obama is still very popular in western Europe, Africa and small liberal pockets in the US but that's about it.

Your opinion.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
If anything, its an unfortunate coincidence and in the ad, they're emphasizing the 'cool' factor of Obama.
Despite his horrible job performance, he is still considered 'cool' by many people.

It may be, but then why didn't they open an Obama Burger? Or Obama subs? Why fried chicken?

Quoting Superfly (Reply 19):
ust last week here in Thailand, a school put on a Nazi parade. The students were dressed in full Nazi military uniform with the Nazi flag and even had Nazi rifles. This was meant to be a fun, festive show for the parents at an expensive private school. The school administrators didn't understand why there was outrage from the westerners that watched. They honestly didn't have any intentions of angering anyone. They just simply didn't know that side of European history.

I can't believe you're even justifying such a thing. In spite of the children being ignorant, school officials should have known better. If they truly didn't know about the holocaust, they shouldn't consider themselves educators.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 23):
They have?
That is what they're telling you but that is far from the truth.

CWS is a little more intelligent than that. It goes beyond just what they are telling him. Europe, as in the Europe that exported racism in the past, has evolved. Whether you choose to understand that is your prerogative.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 23):
..and you say Europe has "evolved"?

Yes they have. In spite of your usual deference to Youtube videos as evidence, Europe has evolved. As I said, the Europe that exported and fostered racism in the past, is not doing the same things today. What Russia or Hungary are doing are different things. Russia and Hungary aren't exporting racism. The racism is a domestic element. The growth in Nazi sympathy in Russia is due to apparent lack of appreciation of the fact that the party being glorified was responsible for the deaths of 27 million Russians.

You and others are talking about two different sorts of racism. The domestic racism that you are discussing is prevalent in the US as well. Look at Arizona, or the fact that our prisons are jam packed with minorities at rates far higher than their overall representation in the general population. Russia is, thankfully, not exporting their current brand of racism.

Racism is an ugly thing, and still persists all over the world. But your Youtube videos are not proof that there has not been evolution in Europe.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 23):
The festival by the school here in Thailand was meant to be a sweet & innocent parade by school children.

Again, how can you justify this? It was idiotic of them to do it. The fact that school administrators knew enough about what a Nazi uniform looks like, and that their symbol was the Swastika, tells me that they knew much more about the Nazis than you want us to believe. If they truly did that much research, and didn't see any mention of Nazi atrocities, they really shouldn't call themselves educators. Sorry, but this just doesn't pass the laugh test. I really don't believe that this parade was meant to be "sweet and innocent".
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RE: Obama Fried Chicken Opens In China.

Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:07 pm

Quoting OA412 (Reply 28):
I can't believe you're even justifying such a thing.
Quoting OA412 (Reply 28):
Again, how can you justify this?

Where on earth are you getting that from? Where have I "justified" any of this?

Quoting OA412 (Reply 28):
CWS is a little more intelligent than that. It goes beyond just what they are te........

Go ahead and stick up for those who will agree with you but that doesn't help the discussion.

Quoting OA412 (Reply 28):
In spite of the children being ignorant, school officials should have known better.

More like the school officials being ignorant and not the little children. It wasn't the children's idea.

Quoting OA412 (Reply 28):
It may be, but then why didn't they open an Obama Burger? Or Obama subs? Why fried chicken?

Ask the owners in China. Ask the owners of the OFC in Brooklyn, New York.

Quoting OA412 (Reply 28):
Oh please, your talking points over the last few years have all been straight out of the Tea Party handbook.

Funny you say that because I've never read any Tea Party material. Besides, I'm not sure what's worse, the Tea Party or Obama & Co.

Quoting OA412 (Reply 28):
Nazi sympathy in Russia is due to apparent lack of appreciation of the fact that the party being glorified was responsible for the deaths of 27 million Russians.

Gee wouldn't that make them "ignorant"?
The OFC in China as well as the children's Nazi parade in Thailand is a from of ignorance. None of the above is justifiable regardless of if it's exported or not.
I find it interesting how you jump through all sorts of hoops to find a different excuse for the problems in Europe. It all comes down to ignorance.
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RE: Obama Fried Chicken Opens In China.

Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:58 pm

Quoting homer71 (Reply 25):
Don't forget the collard greens stereotype
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Quoting BN747 (Reply 20):
Yes they have ...but in a more subtle manner. They exported products are apples and oranges.. simply look at the way blacks were treated in 1930s, 40s France vs the US.

Europeans exported divisiveness and superiority.

Just to be clear, the 'triangle trade' system (North America - Europe - Africa) that was the driving force behind slavery in North America (and the Caribbean too) was set up by Europeans long before there was a United States of America.

I'm very well studied on Triangular Slave Trade Routes..but that well known fact has zero to with the exportation of 'institutionalized racism' in current manner we're discussing at the moment...and which lies are the heart of why this thread was started.


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RE: Obama Fried Chicken Opens In China.

Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:25 pm

Quoting BN747 (Reply 30):
I'm very well studied on Triangular Slave Trade Routes..but that well known fact has zero to with the exportation of 'institutionalized racism' in current manner we're discussing at the moment..

I think the triangle trade is the root cause of African slavery in the Americas, and I think African slavery is the root cause of the institutional racism now being exported.
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Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:26 am

Quoting Revelation (Reply 31):
Quoting BN747 (Reply 30):
I'm very well studied on Triangular Slave Trade Routes..but that well known fact has zero to with the exportation of 'institutionalized racism' in current manner we're discussing at the moment..

I think the triangle trade is the root cause of African slavery in the Americas, and I think African slavery is the root cause of the institutional racism now being exported.

I see where you might think that, but that's not quite the complete picture.

1) Slavery has always been around in some form or another (and still exist today usually with regard to victimized children and women). But the Arabs were the 1st to 'internationalize' it. The prophet Mohammed (if you believe in that kind of thing) his 1st convert was his North African slave Bilal. Slavery was okay with Jesus if you believe in him..he had no problem with it. But there was no real racism during that time..it was more tribalism divides.

2) The later European and American Slave operations were the ones to actually Globalize the practice for pure profit and work they refused to do themselves. Along with that came actual institutionalizing of the practice and establishing laws to govern and regulate the practice. Thus the 'exporting' of racial inferiority and superiority complexes.

Racism is not so much exported today per se as when the world's nations were still establishing their boundaries. It's now planted wherever biased humans have settled. It has a tougher road each growing day because of quicker and learned minds are overwhelming those of the ignorant. However, as long as you have the quest for power .. it can easily be brought to the surface as a tool to divide and conquer (works like a charm on weak-minded individuals) - President Obama's election has shown the triumph over centuries old institutionalized racism.. but the unwarranted attacks on him - operative term being 'unwarranted'...are proof of it;s strength and deep rooted grip! And it is easily re-ignited and usually brought forth by those who hold chief issue with his dark skin being in a position that they feel belongs only to whites (hard for some to leave the past), thus the continued insults, belittling and glaring disrespect of him by many of certain persuasions.


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RE: Obama Fried Chicken Opens In China.

Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:38 pm

Quoting kiwiinoz (Reply 24):
I just like the fact that there is a "fried chicken stereotype". Sounds kind of wierd. There has been a time in life where I could have also been stereotyped as the "fried chicken guy".

I am not aware of anyone around me who has the faintest idea what this "fried chicken stereotype" is about. If anything, we Chinese truly love KFC, although what is served here is a modified version of what you may have in the US.
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RE: Obama Fried Chicken Opens In China.

Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:12 pm

Quoting geekydude (Reply 33):
If anything, we Chinese truly love KFC

....and me as a chubby-chasser love the affect of KFC on the Far-East 

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