washingtonian
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ITunes Match And Google Music

Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:34 am

Has anybody on this forum experimented with both of these new services?

I paid for iTunes Match but I'm not crazy about it so far. I have a ton of lower quality songs that were "matched" but it is difficult and cumbersome to download the new versions--you have to do each song individually, which is a pain for those of us with large music libraries. Also it seems like a lot of files/songs get mis-matched, and I can't figure out a way to ensure or fix a song so that it gets matched instead of just uploaded.

I've heard great things about Google Music. I am surprised that Apple didn't provide a platform for screening over the internet similar to the way they made iCloud.com for you to access your files.

What additions do you think Apple will make to iTunes Match in the future?
 
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RE: ITunes Match And Google Music

Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:17 am

I've used Google Music since it came out in beta some time ago.

I use it as my backup- I have no where near 20 thousand songs, so I'm in good shape. I also give accses to my mother, so she can listen to all my music; she does not have to download any CD's. Anything she may want, I download onto my computer, and with the excellent Google Music uploader which uploads automatically, it's done quickly. Because of this, I have no use of iTunes Match.
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RE: ITunes Match And Google Music

Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:05 pm

Quoting washingtonian (Thread starter):
I paid for iTunes Match but I'm not crazy about it so far. I have a ton of lower quality songs that were "matched" but it is difficult and cumbersome to download the new versions--you have to do each song individually, which is a pain for those of us with large music libraries.

How so? As far as I know you just need to delete the old versions from iTunes and iTunes will replace them all with the iCloud versions. (You can easily do that in bulk by selecting a whole range of files or even all of them, and you can decline to actually move the files into the trash so you'll keep the old ones as well if you want; Never do that without having a proper local backup, though!)

Quoting washingtonian (Thread starter):
Also it seems like a lot of files/songs get mis-matched

Had those been tagged properly before? As far as I know, iTunes Match uses a combination of the original tags and content fingerprints.
 
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RE: ITunes Match And Google Music

Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:46 am

Quoting klaus (Reply 2):
s far as I know you just need to delete the old versions from iTunes and iTunes will replace them all with the iCloud versions. (You can easily do that in bulk by selecting a whole range of files or even all of them, and you can decline to actually move the files into the trash so you'll keep the old ones as well if you want; Never do that without having a proper local backup, though!)

You can organize it by "matched" and "uploaded", etc, but I haven't figured out how to select all of the matched ones in order to be able to delete them at the same time. Alas I've had to go through it manually, selecting each song individually, and then deleting the file. And then once you delete the file, you have to select the cloud next to each song in order to re-download the song.

I just generally find it to be a tad confusing. I think they should have released a handy "how to" guide. So far, I've only deleted and re-downloaded maybe 10% of my songs that matched.

Quoting klaus (Reply 2):
Had those been tagged properly before? As far as I know, iTunes Match uses a combination of the original tags and content fingerprints.

Fair enough. They had not been tagged properly before. Lots of my songs just had artist and song name and that is it. These are songs that I know are in the iTunes store so I suppose I need to edit them and add more information so that when I re-do iTunes Match it will find them the next time?
 
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RE: ITunes Match And Google Music

Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:08 am

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 3):
You can organize it by "matched" and "uploaded", etc, but I haven't figured out how to select all of the matched ones in order to be able to delete them at the same time. Alas I've had to go through it manually, selecting each song individually, and then deleting the file. And then once you delete the file, you have to select the cloud next to each song in order to re-download the song.

This should help:
How to use iTunes Match to upgrade audio quality | How To - CNET
How to upgrade tracks to iTunes Match, fast | Macworld

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 3):
I just generally find it to be a tad confusing. I think they should have released a handy "how to" guide.

Indeed. Sometimes they are a bit too cavalier with relying on everything being obvious – sometimes it just isn't in all its potential aspects.

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 3):
Fair enough. They had not been tagged properly before. Lots of my songs just had artist and song name and that is it. These are songs that I know are in the iTunes store so I suppose I need to edit them and add more information so that when I re-do iTunes Match it will find them the next time?

Quite possibly the full information about artist, album and title can help matching the correct version. You could try completing the information on a few titles and re-matching those.
 
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RE: ITunes Match And Google Music

Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:49 pm

Quoting klaus (Reply 4):
Indeed. Sometimes they are a bit too cavalier with relying on everything being obvious – sometimes it just isn't in all its potential aspects.

Yup. I'm pretty tech-savvy, and I enjoy just using a new feature in order to learn how it functions, but I would have appreciated some more information about iTunes match.

For example, let's say I buy a new Mac computer in a few months. Instead of manually putting all of my music onto the computer, could I simply "authorize" that computer in iTunes and then download all of my music from the Cloud?!

In other words, is iTunes match truly a secondary-backup service for your music?
 
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RE: ITunes Match And Google Music

Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:09 am

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 5):
For example, let's say I buy a new Mac computer in a few months. Instead of manually putting all of my music onto the computer, could I simply "authorize" that computer in iTunes and then download all of my music from the Cloud?!

If you have all your music in iTunes Match to your satisfaction, that should indeed work.

You could of course also just share your library on the local network in iTunes and have iTunes on the new Mac copy it over that way. Or use the transitioning tools which will get most of your other data across as well.

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 5):
In other words, is iTunes match truly a secondary-backup service for your music?

Yes, that's the idea. Although as you've indicated, it's always advisable to have a local primary backup. Murphy-related stuff can happen to an online backup as it can to a local one...

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