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Are Wi-Fi-Enabled Laptops Really Frying Your Sperm

Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:52 pm

This is one of those headlines that can get your attention. I read it with great interest until I remembered that after surgery and radiation for prostate cancer it doesn't matter that much to me.  
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Argentinian researchers obtained semen from 29 healthy men, and stored the samples underneath a laptop computer connected to the Internet via Wi-Fi, presumably simulating the experience of using a laptop on one's lap.
Four hours later, the sperm in the samples stored under the computer showed less movement than sperm in samples that were stored at the same temperature but away from the laptop. And 9% of the laptop sperm showed DNA damage — more than three times higher than in the control group.

Read more: http://healthland.time.com/2011/11/3...y-frying-your-sperm/#ixzz1fDwv2OfQ

So is anyone going to trade in their notebooks for a desktop?
 
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Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:45 pm

Find this hardly believavble.
I have used a laptop for 8+ years with Wifi. plus an Iphone with WiFi.
My wife and I have had 2 kids during that time with no defects/.

My belief is that the HEAT from the laptop is more responsible than the WiFi.
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RE: Are Wi-Fi-Enabled Laptops Really Frying Your Sperm

Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:52 pm

Quoting CasInterest (Reply 1):
My belief is that the HEAT from the laptop is more responsible than the WiFi.

Higher temperatures cause decrease sperm count. Heat certainly does not triple DNA damage to sperm.

Two different things.
 
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Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:01 pm

Quoting CometII (Reply 2):
Higher temperatures cause decrease sperm count. Heat certainly does not triple DNA damage to sperm.

Two different things.

possibly,
But I am going with the assertion from the article here .

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Ejaculated sperm are particularly sensitive to many factors because outside the body they don't have the protection of the other cells, tissues and fluids of the body in which they are stored before ejaculation. Therefore, we cannot infer from this study that because a man might use a laptop with Wi-Fi on his lap for more than four hours then his sperm will necessarily be damaged and he will be less fertile.

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RE: Are Wi-Fi-Enabled Laptops Really Frying Your Sperm

Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:55 pm

Well, I sit here typing this with my laptop on my lap. I admit to a warm glow around the groin area, but even if all my sperm are toasted it makes no difference to me as I have two small pieces of my vasa deferentia missing.   
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Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:00 pm

Seems like a really lame way for a guy to get out of wearing a condom.


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Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:19 am

Quoting desertjets (Reply 5):
Seems like a really lame way for a guy to get out of wearing a condom.


"No baby I played Starcraft all week on my laptop, all my guys are dead by now."

That sounds like a problem that solves itself.
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RE: Are Wi-Fi-Enabled Laptops Really Frying Your Sperm

Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:01 am

I've had laptops since 2003...I've never actually used one on my lap though. Always on a table, desk, etc. I just found that trying to use it on my lap is uncomfortable on my back and shoulders.

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Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:05 am

I've never liked using a laptop on my lap. That is just too much technology and heat near my fun parts.

Quoting Ken777 (Thread starter):
So is anyone going to trade in their notebooks for a desktop?

I still use a desktop at home and only use the laptop at work or if I have to work remotely.

Quoting CasInterest (Reply 3):
Ejaculated sperm are particularly sensitive to many factors because outside the body they don't have the protection of the other cells, tissues and fluids of the body in which they are stored before ejaculation. Therefore, we cannot infer from this study that because a man might use a laptop with Wi-Fi on his lap for more than four hours then his sperm will necessarily be damaged and he will be less fertile.

So these 29 healthy men masturbated for nothing?
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Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:09 am

I'm not too worried about it, my sperm aren't going for their intended purposes anyway.

Is it sad that the first time I bought condoms it was to us to build the body of a Vladi Worm (Flyfishing/Flytying) rather then for their intended purpose or their secondary purpose
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Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:12 am

Quoting L-188 (Reply 9):
I'm not too worried about it, my sperm aren't going for their intended purposes anyway.

You're not marking your territory?
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RE: Are Wi-Fi-Enabled Laptops Really Frying Your Sperm

Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:23 am

Argentinian researches, pah, what do they know.

Two years ago they spent 10 million dollars and 12 months of research time to discover that a mans penis is shaped the way it is to heighten the womans pleasure during lovemaking. American researches spent half the amount and half the time to come up with similar conclusions.

The University of Dublin spent £2.50 and twenty minutes to discover that a mans penis is shaped that way to stop his hand flying off at high speed!
 
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Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:29 am

Quoting Delboy (Reply 11):
The University of Dublin spent £2.50 and twenty minutes to discover that a mans penis is shaped that way to stop his hand flying off at high speed!


ROFL

Now, the philosophic question is, will the sperm be fried or boiled? And, what about lap dance?



 
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Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:34 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 8):
So these 29 healthy men masturbated for nothing?

Define "nothing".   
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Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:15 pm

Quoting scbriml (Reply 13):
Quoting Superfly (Reply 8):
So these 29 healthy men masturbated for nothing?

Define "nothing".

For the sake of this study, yes! ...... for self pleasure . I'd say you would have to ask them individually.
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Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:51 pm

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 12):
Now, the philosophic question is, will the sperm be fried or boiled? And, what about lap dance?

Microwaved  . The most common band used for Wifi is 2.4GHz which is roughly the same frequency as used in microwave ovens. The transmitted power is however extremely low around 30 milliwatts (15dBm). Another mitigating factor is that - as far as I know - most men do not have their b@lls directly hanging under the WiFi USB stick which also reduces exposure because of what RF engineers call Path Loss.

GSM cellphones are far more dangerous. They operate at 0.9, 1.8, or 1.9 GHz and have a transmission power of 1 Watts. Car models even 8 Watts.
 
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RE: Are Wi-Fi-Enabled Laptops Really Frying Your Sperm

Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:55 pm

Quoting YokoTsuno (Reply 15):
Microwaved . The most common band used for Wifi is 2.4GHz

yes, of course, one should always try the technical approach first.

Quoting YokoTsuno (Reply 15):
most men do not have their b@lls directly hanging under the WiFi stick

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Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:43 pm

Quoting Delboy (Reply 11):
Two years ago they spent 10 million dollars

Trust me, given the reaction of women of nearly all nationalities to the sight of an Argentine male, those 10 million dollars were simply the amount spent on protection for all the expat women who gladly stated "research me!".
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RE: Are Wi-Fi-Enabled Laptops Really Frying Your Sperm

Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:23 pm

Quoting CasInterest (Reply 1):
My wife and I have had 2 kids during that time with no defects/.

Your wife may have had two kids, but, do you know the kids are yours....? 

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