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LSU - Alabama

Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:34 am

The game just started for the national championship.

I have to go for LSU as Dad went there during the Great Depression.

Is anyone else interested in the game?  
 
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:47 am

Quoting Ken777 (Thread starter):
The game just started for the national championship.

Let me fix that for you:

The game just started for LSU-Alabama.


There. I fixed it.
 
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:09 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 1):
There. I fixed it.

You must be an OKlahoma State fan.  
 
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:20 am

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 2):
You must be an OKlahoma State fan.

Actually I'm a Michigan fan, and I'm tired of the SEC bias and hypocrisy.
 
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:40 am

Arkansas had a great Cotton Bowl. Go Hogs!!!!

So far it looks like the LSU offense forgot to show up.
 
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:51 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 3):
, and I'm tired of the SEC bias and hypocrisy.

So we are both in favor of playoffs?

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 4):
So far it looks like the LSU offense forgot to show up.

Ain't that the truth. Tigers need to Defense to score as the Offense is making a lot of errors.
 
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:23 am

I'm a life long Arkansas fan, went there for a couple years.

My brother-in-law is a life long LSU fan.

Since his Cardinals beat the Rangers for the World Series - I at least want to see LSU not win this game.
 
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:44 am

Quoting ALTF4 (Reply 7):

Oh don't get me wrong, I am as obsessed with college football as they come, but this "title game" is making a mockery of the sport. Alabama had no business playing in this game, win or not. What a pitiful game, I'm glad I'm not watching.

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RE: LSU - Alabama

Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:31 am

Well my post got deleted because it referenced another post that was deleted. Seeing as there were not any other warnings, I still think what I wrote applies. So:

Facebook is on fire because Erin Andrews is wearing LSU colors. Who cares!?

I respect that people enjoy the sport and get fired up about it... but so many seem to go so far overboard when compared to any other event/hobby/interest.

I'm sure somebody is going to come along and tell me if I don't want to watch it then I don't have to (and I don't), and report this post as off-topic, but there are few other things in life that I can think of that people get so incredibly fired up about and rant and rave about on social media and in person than football and other sports.

I'm starting to be legitimately worried that some people are going to kill themselves (health problems, not suicide) from the stress levels they incur over such events.
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:48 am

Three straight national championships for the state of Alabama!
 
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:40 am

Well, a team from my home state won it again. Congrats, Tide.

That being said, I always thought that this should have never been the pairing for the NC. I would never say this to my friends back home in HSV as they would all crucify me, but I still believe this even after Bama's convincing win. The BCS really needs to go away and there needs to be a playoff.

In a way, I'm kind of relieved. If Bama had lost to LSU again, who knows what Updyke would have done? Implode the Superdome? Reflood the Ninth Ward?

But this is the way it is. So, congrats to Alabama on their 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th or 14th (depends on who you ask) National Championship. Wish my team would get just one.

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RE: LSU - Alabama

Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:30 pm

Was painful to watch, but LSU had their head delivered to them in this game.

Both sides, IMO, did well on Defense. Bama did far better on offense. They clearly had the best play caller and the best quarterback. There's good and bad news for Bama in that area. The good news is that the outstanding quarterback is only a sophomore - they get two more years out of him. The bad news is that the play caller just called his last game for the Tide. He's heading to Colorado State.

On the LSA side, their quarterback just played his last game at the college level. He did show one good point for the NFL in the entire game. When he threw that horrid interception he made one hell of a tackle - for a quarterback.

In the end there is no doubt that LSU lost to the better team and Alabama deserves some major congratulations.
 
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:08 pm

I'm so glad the BCS was here to straighten out this mess and tell us which of the five one loss teams is national champion.  

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RE: LSU - Alabama

Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:37 pm

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 2):
You must be an OKlahoma State fan.

While not an OSU fan, I do feel bad for the Cowboys this year. Without the one overtime loss to Iowa State they would have had a shot at the NC game.

Quoting HSVXJ (Reply 10):
That being said, I always thought that this should have never been the pairing for the NC.

One of the poorer arguments I hear for a playoff is that two teams out of the same division in the same conference should not play for the NC. If the BCS existed back in the day this would have happened many times before. The "Game of the Century" between Oklahoma and Nebraska comes to mind in '71 where after OU lost to NU in conference play they could have have played Nebraska again in a championship game. Three Big 8 teams finished in the top 3 that year.

Quoting D L X (Reply 3):
Actually I'm a Michigan fan, and I'm tired of the SEC bias and hypocrisy.

As a Missouri fan I'm happy to latch on to some of that bias now! But, it's not like the media attention to the SEC is undeserved. An SEC school has won the past 6 college football National Championships.

That said, an incredibly boring football game. It will be interesting to see how an offense like Missouri's does in a defensively dominated conference.
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:44 pm

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 13):
As a Missouri fan I'm happy to latch on to some of that bias now! But, it's not like the media attention to the SEC is undeserved. An SEC school has won the past 6 college football National Championships.

That said, an incredibly boring football game. It will be interesting to see how an offense like Missouri's does in a defensively dominated conference.

The only thing that Missouri gained by going to the SEC is 1) Money and 2) An easier basketball schedule. Be prepared to go win no more than 5 wins in football for the foreseeable future. Missouri is now the SEC West whipping post.

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RE: LSU - Alabama

Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:58 pm

Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 14):
The only thing that Missouri gained by going to the SEC is 1) Money and 2) An easier basketball schedule. Be prepared to go win no more than 5 wins in football for the foreseeable future. Missouri is now the SEC West whipping post.

Except that Mizzou is in the East.... Where we'll play Georgia, SC, Vandy, KY, Florida and Tennessee. Outside of a yearly rivalry game against A&M we'll play each team in the West only once every 6 years. I see 4 wins in the east on our schedule next year and we own A&M, so there's your 5 outside the non-conf. schedule.

Missouri gained stability most of all moving to the SEC, the money too of course, but comparing the Big 12 to the SEC no team has left the SEC since Tulane in 1966...the Big 12, well..

That stability and yearly strength of the conference (like we saw this year) is one of the reasons the SEC is a media darling. Looking forward to playing another basketball school that starts with a k in football next year.
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:59 pm

A +1 playoff system in the BCS is going to see more SEC vs SEC matchups for the national title like this one.
 
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:15 pm

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 5):

So we are both in favor of playoffs?

Absolutely. The BCS is a joke. Can you imagine switching the NFL to a BCS style system?

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 13):
An SEC school has won the past 6 college football National Championships.

Under the incredibly flawed system that promotes SEC teams being placed in the game.

It proves nothing.
 
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:37 am

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 16):

A +1 playoff system in the BCS is going to see more SEC vs SEC matchups for the national title like this one.

I don't think many would have objected to LSU vs. Alabama if the Tide had faced off against Oklahoma State and beaten them to get to the title game.
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:14 am

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 18):
I don't think many would have objected to LSU vs. Alabama if the Tide had faced off against Oklahoma State and beaten them to get to the title game.

People don't object to non-conference winners in the title game or series over conference winners...provided that they are there as the result of winning some kind of tournament, not being selected by a computer. NCAA 1A football is the only subset of any NCAA sport that doesnt have a playoff--heck, 1AA football has a playoff as well. Stewart Mandel wrote a great column on this for SI.
 
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:31 am

Quoting us330 (Reply 19):
People don't object to non-conference winners in the title game or series over conference winners...provided that they are there as the result of winning some kind of tournament, not being selected by a computer.

You may be interested to realize that the BCS computers selected Oklahoma State to play in the national title game.

PEOPLE fudged this result so that Alabama would get its rematch.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/bcs
 
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:51 am

Multiple sources are reporting that the LSU-Alabama snooze-fest from last night is actually prompting serious, deliberate discussion about implementing a true playoff system. Hopefully some good will come from all of this.
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:10 am

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 15):

Except that Mizzou is in the East.... Where we'll play Georgia, SC, Vandy, KY, Florida and Tennessee. Outside of a yearly rivalry game against A&M we'll play each team in the West only once every 6 years. I see 4 wins in the east on our schedule next year and we own A&M, so there's your 5 outside the non-conf. schedule.

In any case, I still don't see Fizzou winning out on going to the SEC. But hey, one less decent basketball team to have to deal with for Kansas in the Big 9.

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RE: LSU - Alabama

Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:14 am

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 18):
I don't think many would have objected to LSU vs. Alabama if the Tide had faced off against Oklahoma State and beaten them to get to the title game.

I'll go along with that, but family has gone to OSU over the years.

It would have been a different game if OSA had played.

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"We'd have thrown it 500 times," Gundy said from a hotel room more than 500 miles away, taking in Alabama's 21-0 victory in the Bowl Championship Series title game on television.
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:25 am

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 2):
You must be an OKlahoma State fan.

I'll admit that this season didn't go the way I wished it had. I was hoping for the Cowboys to blow away Stanford and then have a poorly played championship game on both sides. But even though that didn't happen, there are rumors of change flying around.

Quoting D L X (Reply 3):
Actually I'm a Michigan fan, and I'm tired of the SEC bias and hypocrisy.

The SEC is by some margin the best out there. And the Big Ten continues to wet themselves every year come bowl time.

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 5):
So we are both in favor of playoffs?

Certainly, but there would be a lot of SEC teams blowing others away.

Quoting ALTF4 (Reply 8):
I respect that people enjoy the sport and get fired up about it... but so many seem to go so far overboard when compared to any other event/hobby/interest

College football is tailor made for mouth breathing idiots. Every fanbase, everywhere. Some are worse than others: see Penn State.

Quoting HSVXJ (Reply 10):
Reflood the Ninth Ward?

On a similar note, according to ESPN everyone in Tuscaloosa is getting their houses and property back because the Tide won. Dumbasses.

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 13):
As a Missouri fan I'm happy to latch on to some of that bias now!

Enjoy getting it up the giggy every week in the SEC.

Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 14):
The only thing that Missouri gained by going to the SEC is 1) Money and 2) An easier basketball schedule.

  
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:59 pm

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 23):
It would have been a different game if OSU had played.

No doubt: 21-0 LSU or 41-0 Bama, take your pick...
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:28 pm

Quoting Gatorman96 (Reply 25):
No doubt:

OSU wold have had a better chance to score against Bama. LSU had some pretty ineffective play calling IMO and Bama was well tuned to Jefferson. I was feeling after the first two series in the second half that it was time to change quarterbacks and the plays. Bama would have been far less prepared for that than they were for Jefferson.

With LSU it could have been a high scoring game with either capable of winning.

Either way it would have been a more interesting game to watch.
 
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:24 pm

Quoting Gatorman96 (Reply 25):
No doubt: 21-0 LSU or 41-0 Bama, take your pick...

Empty chatter.

The SEC so rarely plays the good teams outside it's division for this reason.
 
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:41 pm

Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 22):
In any case, I still don't see Fizzou winning out on going to the SEC. But hey, one less decent basketball team to have to deal with for Kansas in the Big 9.

It all makes sense now, you're a kU fan. Where would you're Jayhawks been a few months ago if OU/UT/OSU and Tech moved to the Pac-12?

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 24):
Enjoy getting it up the giggy every week in the SEC.

Maybe, maybe not. Mizzou has just as good a chance finishing 4 to 6th place in the SEC as it did in the Big 12. As long as we are in the same division as Kentucky and Vandy I see no reason why we can't do well.

I'm not arguing that it wasn't a boring game, the ratings and result surely point that out on their own. I'm also not against a playoff system in D-1 all I was saying is that the argument that a rematch is boring isn't enough to sell the NCAA on a playoff system. Ratings for the BCS championship game and loss of sponsors would. I'd be fine with a +1 game where we would have seen OSU play Alabama. OSU had one bad overtime game against Iowa St. and that did it for them.
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:42 pm

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 26):
With LSU it could have been a high scoring game with either capable of winning.

Either way it would have been a more interesting game to watch.

You're right. I am being an SEC homer. The game certainly would have been more entertaining had OSU been LSU's opponent. But I still believe that LSU would have won. They have a fantastic defense, one that OSU hadn't seen at all the entire year. I think the score would have been somewhere in the mid 20s, with LSU winning by a TD. Hopefully next year there will be some type of playoff system so these match ups can be a reality...
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:01 pm

Quoting D L X (Reply 27):
The SEC so rarely plays the good teams outside it's division for this reason.

That's because we don't need to. Preseason polls for next year will have 4-5 SEC teams in the top 10. But for sh!ts and giggles:

2011 LSU: #3 Oregon, #16 WVU,
2011 Bama: at Penn State
2011 Arkansas: at Texas A&M
2011 UGA: Boise State, Ga Tech

Let's go ahead and compare that to OSU's gauntlet of an out conference schedule (minus the pansies):
Arizona: 4-8 W/L record
Tulsa: 8-5
Iowa State: 6-7

OSU did not deserve to play in the NC game, much less any other team...
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:04 pm

Quoting Gatorman96 (Reply 29):
Hopefully next year there will be some type of playoff system so these match ups can be a reality

Will not happen.

The college presidents are against a playoff, and it will never be approved.
 
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:36 pm

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 31):
The college presidents are against a playoff, and it will never be approved.

That might depend on the money. Low ratings in the LSU-Bama Game is going to cut the payouts, for at least next year.

The schools could manage a playoff very well, especially if all schools were to receive some base funding. Those players looking for a pro career also get a chance to audition one more time - and hopefully move up the ladder.
 
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:50 pm

Quoting Gatorman96 (Reply 30):
Quoting D L X (Reply 27):
The SEC so rarely plays the good teams outside it's division for this reason.

That's because we don't need to. Preseason polls

Really guyer?

Preseason polls do not support your argument in any way. Neither do postseason polls. FACT: The SEC does not want to play outside their division and actually be compared. It's like dancing around with jazz hands about how you're the greatest, while turning down almost every opportunity to have the fight.

Quoting Gatorman96 (Reply 30):
OSU did not deserve to play in the NC game

Baloney.

Even though I've already pointed it out, NO ONE on this thread has yet to take issue with the fact that the objective measurements (the computers) said that OSU was a better team than Alabama, and it was the human polls that forced Alabama in over OSU.
 
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:20 pm

DLX,

Did you not read the rest of my post? I think I pointed out that the SEC, in both divisions, do play (good) out of conference teams. But that's fine if you choose to ignore that fact.

I agree that preseason polls are a joke and are only used to sell magazines and give us something to talk about in the off season, but it's pretty difficult to overlook the final polls, which has 4 SEC teams in the Top 10.

Quoting D L X (Reply 33):
Even though I've already pointed it out, NO ONE on this thread has yet to take issue with the fact that the objective measurements (the computers) said that OSU was a better team than Alabama, and it was the human polls that forced Alabama in over OSU.

That's a pretty weak argument to rely on the computers. Can you seriously tell me that OSU would have beaten LSU or Bama in the NC game?

I think that you and I, along with everyone else in this thread, agree that some kind of change has to be made so these issues can be hashed out on the field, not in online forums, etc!
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:33 pm

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 4):

Arkansas had a great Cotton Bowl. Go Hogs!!!!

Nice to see another Arkansas fan on here! I was at the cotton bowl and honestly it was not that close. Our defense dominated K-states offense for the better part of the night.

Quoting D L X (Reply 27):
The SEC so rarely plays the good teams outside it's division for this reason.

Really? Because I'm pretty sure LSU alone played the big east and pac 12 champion this year. That alone would seem to make your claim bogus. Also my Razorbacks handed it to K-state which was the 8th ranked team in the country going in to the cotton bowl. Also South Carolina walloped Nebraska who was ranked 20th going into the game. No good teams outside our conference my arse.
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:35 pm

Quoting Gatorman96 (Reply 30):
OSU did not deserve to play in the NC game, much less any other team...

Here are the facts, Gatorman:

-Alabama beat 2 BCS Top 25 teams, Oklahoma St. beat 4.
-OSU had wins over 7 bowl-bound teams, Alabama had 3.
-Sagarin rated the Big XII the strongest conference this year, which means OSU's SOS was considerably harder.
-OSU won its conference, Alabama didn't win its division.

Take off your SEC colored glasses, and open your eyes. Oklahoma St. was more deserving of the spot in that game, and the only reason that Alabama went was because of the media bias and the perceived superiority of the SEC. I'm sorry, but it's not "good defense" when the teams score a combined 10 field goals (and missed how many more?), and 1 touchdown (with a missed extra point) in two games. That's bad football. There is no question that Alabama and LSU are great teams, and clearly deserving of being ranked in the top three. Their defenses are clearly the best in the country. But it's ridiculous to think that OSU wouldn't have been able to move the ball to some extent. Neither Alabama nor LSU could sustain drives in either game, but particularly LSU in the BCSNCG. Bama won field position, which let them get into field goal range easily.

It's not rocket science. OSU got jobbed.

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RE: LSU - Alabama

Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:59 pm

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 36):
Here are the facts, Gatorman:

-Alabama beat 2 BCS Top 25 teams, Oklahoma St. beat 4.
-OSU had wins over 7 bowl-bound teams, Alabama had 3.
-Sagarin rated the Big XII the strongest conference this year, which means OSU's SOS was considerably harder.
-OSU won its conference, Alabama didn't win its division.

Here's another fact:
-OSU and Bama both had 1 loss
- Bama lost to the number one team in the country by three points in overtime
- OSU lost in overtime to an unranked Iowa state team
It turns out that the voters considered the difference between the one loss to be the most important factor. Conference championships should have nothing to do with the BCS NCG. The top two teams in the BCS standings (as decided by the voters and computers) should play for the title period.

Quoting D L X (Reply 33):
Even though I've already pointed it out, NO ONE on this thread has yet to take issue with the fact that the objective measurements (the computers) said that OSU was a better team than Alabama, and it was the human polls that forced Alabama in over OSU.

As far as the griping about the computer rankings goes, I remember not too many years back when people were griping that the computers were involved at all. The BCS is designed to take into count a human component as well as an objective component (rankings are 2/3 human polls and 1/3 computer). I believe that is a good compromise because it keeps the human polls involved while integrating a more objective poll as well.
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:38 pm

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 36):
Take off your SEC colored glasses, and open your eyes

Damn our usernames, giving away our alliances right off the bat (although it isn't too hard to figure out who we pull for once someone reads the first sentence of either of our posts).

Colored glasses aside, stats can really be spun in anyone's favor, but I truly believe that the two best teams played in the NC game. That's fine that Bama didn't win the SEC, let alone their division, but at least their only loss was to LSU! The Iowa State loss was an absolute killer. If OSU managed to go undefeated, I would be much less inclined to have put Bama in the NC game with the current system we have.


Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 36):
But it's ridiculous to think that OSU wouldn't have been able to move the ball to some extent.

I never said this, in fact:

Quoting Gatorman96 (Reply 29):
I think the score would have been somewhere in the mid 20s, with LSU winning by a TD.

Thanks for Muschamp and good luck next year.
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:48 pm

Quoting Gatorman96 (Reply 34):
That's a pretty weak argument to rely on the computers.

Actually, it's an extremely strong one when the objective measures come up with one ranking, while the biased ones came up with a different one.

Quoting Gatorman96 (Reply 34):
Can you seriously tell me that OSU would have beaten LSU or Bama in the NC game?

I do not know, and neither do you. They didn't play, so you have absolutely no idea who would have won that game.
 
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:46 am

Quoting Gatorman96 (Reply 34):
Can you seriously tell me that OSU would have beaten LSU or Bama in the NC game?

No, but I can seriously tell you that there was a 0% chance of having a game more boring if the game was LSU vs OSU.

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RE: LSU - Alabama

Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:16 am

Quoting NW747400 (Reply 35):
Because I'm pretty sure LSU alone played the big east and pac 12 champion this year

He said rarely, not never--and the SEC does indeed tend to have weak non-conference scheduling. Pac 12 regularly has one of the strongest non-conference schedules. I also bet LSU would have never agreed to play Oregon if it wasn't getting a significant payout, which is what those season openers tend to provide.
 
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RE: LSU - Alabama

Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:17 am

Quoting Gatorman96 (Reply 38):
Damn our usernames, giving away our alliances right off the bat

   Ain't it the truth!?

Quoting Gatorman96 (Reply 38):
That's fine that Bama didn't win the SEC, let alone their division, but at least their only loss was to LSU! The Iowa State loss was an absolute killer. If OSU managed to go undefeated, I would be much less inclined to have put Bama in the NC game with the current system we have.
Quoting NW747400 (Reply 37):
-OSU and Bama both had 1 loss
- Bama lost to the number one team in the country by three points in overtime
- OSU lost in overtime to an unranked Iowa state team
Quoting NW747400 (Reply 37):
It turns out that the voters considered the difference between the one loss to be the most important factor.

It is really sad when there is a clear difference in the body of work, and voters vote based on the losses alone. No one can objectively look at a comparison between the two and conclude that Alabama's body of work was equal to or better than Oklahoma State's body of work. Their loss was better, but that's the only thing. Voter's should vote first on the accomplishments of each team, and only after look at the shortcomings.

Again, what really was the deciding factor was the perceived superiority of the SEC. It is an incredibly top-heavy conference, but the bottom half was atrocious.

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