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Toyota Prius Camper

Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:06 pm

Attention all tree huggers. Your ship has arrived.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/to...amper-van-photo-gallery-41922.html

 
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RE: Toyota Prius Camper

Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:14 pm

LOL, I saw that too. Seems that will do well in Europe.

Beyond that, you may not have noticed but the Prius is mainstream now.
 
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RE: Toyota Prius Camper

Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:14 pm

Quoting bohica (Thread starter):
Attention all tree huggers. Your ship has arrived.

Is that for the the porn industry leaving LA?

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RE: Toyota Prius Camper

Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:21 pm

Quoting bohica (Thread starter):

Thank heavens! All those people out there thinking "if only the Prius had a giant plastic dong on the back of it." now have their wish granted.

Who's idea was this? Did someone at Toyota look at the Agera R and say "let's do something like that, but bigger and more phallic"?

Seriously, Priuses are bad enough to drive so why would you want to live in one?

Quoting mham001 (Reply 1):
Beyond that, you may not have noticed but the Prius is mainstream now.

But still slow and generally unappealing to drive.
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Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:23 pm

They actually made the Prius look even uglier! Never thought it could be done.
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RE: Toyota Prius Camper

Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:25 pm

Nothing new here. AMC was offering this back in the 1970s and 1980s.
Best of all, they offered 4WD and much more durable than the plastic Prius.
















Also, the AMC Gremlin, Spirit and Eagle didn't look like it had a giant dildo mounted on top.
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RE: Toyota Prius Camper

Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:43 pm

Quoting mham001 (Reply 1):
Seems that will do well in Europe.

Ummm... why would it?

Quoting mham001 (Reply 1):
you may not have noticed but the Prius is mainstream now.

not in Europe, though  
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RE: Toyota Prius Camper

Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:48 pm

Seems to me they just stole this idea from James May...  
 
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RE: Toyota Prius Camper

Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:50 pm

Quoting aloges (Reply 6):
Ummm... why would it?

Because of your affinity for small camp-mobiles?

Quoting aloges (Reply 6):
not in Europe, though


That's ok, the Germans are finally onboard the hybrid train. Expect good things to happen in the segment.
 
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RE: Toyota Prius Camper

Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:52 pm

Quoting sw733 (Reply 7):
Seems to me they just stole this idea from James May...

I was thinking about him too. Needs a bigger balloon.

There is some confusion here though, this is not a Toyota conversion.

[Edited 2012-01-23 11:53:03]
 
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RE: Toyota Prius Camper

Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:28 pm

Quoting mham001 (Reply 1):

LOL, I saw that too. Seems that will do well in Europe.

I bet there will be more of these campers rolling on American than on European roads.

This is just too much to handle for the motorhead in me. It looks like a wired bastard made up of a Prius and a gigantic dildo! No thanks.
 
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RE: Toyota Prius Camper

Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:32 pm

Quoting sw733 (Reply 7):
Seems to me they just stole this idea from James May.

...and what a terrible copy it is! His looked better, it was more interesting and certainly a greater pleasure to drive.

Quoting mham001 (Reply 8):
That's ok, the Germans are finally onboard the hybrid train. Expect good things to happen in the segment.

Diesel is a much more popular way to save fuel (and money at the time of purchase) in Europe, which is why small hybrids haven't caught on here. There is the odd E-class customer who wants to show some good will, but wouldn't be caught dead in a Diesel... and that's it, essentially.
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Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:00 pm

Quoting aloges (Reply 11):
Diesel is a much more popular way to save fuel (and money at the time of purchase) in Europe, which is why small hybrids haven't caught on here. There is the odd E-class customer who wants to show some good will, but wouldn't be caught dead in a Diesel... and that's it, essentially.

When they figure out they can fuel most of their driving by plugging into those bright shiny solar panels your government just paid for, even the staunchest dieselhead will see the light.

When they come out with diesel hybrids, what will a good dieselhead do?
 
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Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:08 pm

Quoting mham001 (Reply 12):
even the staunchest dieselhead will see the light.

Ah... I forgot that you're the resident anti-Diesel guy. My bad.

Quoting mham001 (Reply 12):
When they come out with diesel hybrids, what will a good dieselhead do?

...buy one if it makes sense to him?
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RE: Toyota Prius Camper

Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:26 pm

See, if they'd just bought a Hummer, they would have been able to fit the physical representation of their perceived penis size inside the car....   

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Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:34 pm

I realize this isn't a Toyota conversion, though I do think Toyota should make a Prius MPV, bigger than the Prius V and smaller than the Sienna. But I wouldn't buy it cause I have a distaste for Toyotas.
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RE: Toyota Prius Camper

Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:19 pm

That is more than a bit ugly. Looks like a poor little Prius grew a goiter.   

It would seem that Toyota could develop a small van type wagon and use a lot of the Prius technology. More like a Mazda5 than the abortion they delivered.
 
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RE: Toyota Prius Camper

Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:21 pm

Hopefully this horrible stuff will remain in Japan   

Quoting mham001 (Reply 1):
Seems that will do well in Europe.

Not a chance. We don't have bad taste  
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RE: Toyota Prius Camper

Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:28 am

Quoting aloges (Reply 11):
Diesel is a much more popular way to save fuel (and money at the time of purchase) in Europe, which is why small hybrids haven't caught on here.

Could there be diesel electric hybrids? Like a Prius (not the gawd-awful one shown by the OP) but with a diesel engine instead?

Couldn't the designers think of a way to make the camper actually look... good... on the Prius? I like the concept but it looks just awful.
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RE: Toyota Prius Camper

Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:00 am

Quoting seb146 (Reply 18):
not the gawd-awful one shown by the OP

Don't you drive an equally god awful PT cruiser?
 
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RE: Toyota Prius Camper

Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:08 am

Quoting seb146 (Reply 18):
Could there be diesel electric hybrids? Like a Prius (not the gawd-awful one shown by the OP) but with a diesel engine instead?

Ahh... no because no one likes diesel   joke aside.... would like to see numbers from a diesel electric...  

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Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:55 am

Quoting seb146 (Reply 18):
Could there be diesel electric hybrids? Like a Prius (not the gawd-awful one shown by the OP) but with a diesel engine instead?

It exists already. Peugeot already put one on the market:

http://www.peugeot.co.uk/vehicles/pe...ot-car-range/peugeot-3008-hybrid4/
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Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:21 am

Looks like Michelin Man lost his meat and veg...
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Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:31 am

I'm surprised it doesn't do a wheelie when you step into the back...Or does it?   
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RE: Toyota Prius Camper

Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:24 am

Quoting seb146 (Reply 18):
Could there be diesel electric hybrids?

Absolutely, but AFAIK it's more difficult with a modern Diesel engine than with a petrol one. That's why it's taken longer.

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 21):
It exists already. Peugeot already put one on the market:

As have Volvo: http://www.volvocars.com/uk/top/abou...ents/Pages/default.aspx?itemid=135
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RE: Toyota Prius Camper

Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:35 am

Quoting mham001 (Reply 12):
When they come out with diesel hybrids, what will a good dieselhead do?
Quoting seb146 (Reply 18):
Could there be diesel electric hybrids?

There are already several models by Peugeot and Citroen, which are btw. much better looking than the Prius.

http://www.ds5.citroen.co.uk/uk/

I'm sure that the dildo is adressed to the US market.  

[Edited 2012-01-24 02:41:03]
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Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:48 pm

Quoting Flight152 (Reply 19):
Don't you drive an equally god awful PT cruiser?

I have a PT, but I have chosen not to add a phallus to it. That would make my PT look as bad as this Prius. Since it is standard PT look, it is AWESOME!!

Quoting oldeuropean (Reply 25):
There are already several models by Peugeot and Citroen, which are btw. much better looking than the Prius.

They do look pretty good! I am just wondering why the diesel-electric hybrid is not widly available? With some diesel engines being able to take cooking oil, it would be a great alternate to petrolium and the price at the pump should be more stable, right?
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Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:58 pm

I guess this is a case of "You are what you drive!".

So who wants to drive one?

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RE: Toyota Prius Camper

Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:13 pm

Quoting seb146 (Reply 18):
Could there be diesel electric hybrids? Like a Prius (not the gawd-awful one shown by the OP) but with a diesel engine instead?

The problem with diesel hybrids is that the buyer will take 2 price premium hits. Both the diesel engine and the hybrid drivetrain are premiums over a petrol motor and manufacturers don't believe consumers will bite. Diesel engines also weigh more. Many hybrids use an Atkinson cycle petrol motor which is about par with diesel in efficiency. The reason it's not used in non-hybrids is lack of power density which can be overcome with an electric sidekick.

A diesel hybrid in series would be interesting, where the diesel operates constant at its peak efficiency such as used in locomotives..
 
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RE: Toyota Prius Camper

Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:22 am

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 3):
Seriously, Priuses are bad enough to drive so why would you want to live in one?

Not really bad. Not fun but pleasant enough on a normal commute. Not so good as the Ford Fusion Hybrid but that didn't have a folddown back seat and averaged 10 MPG less. I agree this appendage is an abomination and I can't imagine it being anything but a chore to drive with this attached. The accommodations are nifty but I doubt enough folks want to take a Prius on a camping trip to make offering this pay off. The car shown is the spitting image of mine but I sure won't be buying that thing to put on my car. Superfly is right: the AMC car attachments, like the AMC cars themselves, look a lot better than this. And the reason I now own a Prius is simply that I fear high gas prices, not particularly because I want to save the planet. If we had a real energy policy in this country for the last 38+ plus years since the first oil shock, many of us would not feel like we have to buy hybrids. Better fuel efficiency is great but not at the cost of legislating entire classes of useful vehicles off the market. We have oil resources here to augment the push for greener energy; we just need to keep the eco-extremists from blocking most efforts to responsibly tap them so we can keep fuel prices from becoming unacceptably high, all too soon.
 
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Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:32 am

Here's a reasonable alternative to the above if you could get a Totota dealer to install a towing package on a Prius: http://www.princesscraft.com/camper/aliner-travel-trailers.aspx That alone might be a trip in and of itself!
 
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Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:11 am

Quoting seb146 (Reply 26):
They do look pretty good! I am just wondering why the diesel-electric hybrid is not widly available? With some diesel engines being able to take cooking oil, it would be a great alternate to petrolium and the price at the pump should be more stable, right?

Diesel engines that take cooking oil are old NA engines, not modern turbo common rail ones. I don't know how it works in the US but here it's even illegal to make your own fuel (I don't think it's enforced).

Diesel hybrid was a challenge, in part because of the transmission, and as you can see with PSA, they decided to avoid the problem by powering the rear wheels electrically, so you basically have two separate power-trains. I would rather have a Volt like car, with the diesel only used as a generator.
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RE: Toyota Prius Camper

Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:20 am

Quoting Aesma (Reply 31):
I would rather have a Volt like car,

A recalled car?

Quoting AvObserver (Reply 29):
I now own a Prius is simply that I fear high gas prices, not particularly because I want to save the planet.

You should put a Buch/Cheney or McCain/Palin and NRA bumper sticker on your Prius to confuse people. 
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Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:18 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 32):
A recalled car?

I'm just talking about the concept, not the realization.
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Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:41 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 32):
A recalled car?

By regurgitating that trash with the common knee-jerk republican response, you help kill one concept that can relieve us from our foreign oil addiction - something the US needs badly. Why do you hate the US?
 
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Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:15 pm

Quoting mham001 (Reply 34):
By regurgitating that trash with the common knee-jerk republican response, you help kill one concept that can relieve us from our foreign oil addiction - something the US needs badly. Why do you hate the US?

???????    ???????
How does one rationally respond to such a comment?
Just about every member here that's been reading my post in the almost 12 years I've been at this site knows where my loyalty is when it comes to cars.
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RE: Toyota Prius Camper

Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:31 pm

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 3):
Who's idea was this? Did someone at Toyota look at the Agera R and say "let's do something like that, but bigger and more phallic"?


I find it pretty fitting, as the people who buy hybrids tend to be pricks.
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Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:42 pm

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 36):
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 3):
Who's idea was this? Did someone at Toyota look at the Agera R and say "let's do something like that, but bigger and more phallic"?


I find it pretty fitting, as the people who buy hybrids tend to be pricks.

LOL!            

Quoting Aesma (Reply 33):
I'm just talking about the concept, not the realization.

Understood.
Otherwise, I'd recommend a Ford Pinto.
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Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:55 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 35):
Just about every member here that's been reading my post in the almost 12 years I've been at this site knows where my loyalty is when it comes to cars.

You are missing all the political hoopla here about the Volt. Every idiot (sorry to say) republican pulls out some cheap-s**t shot at the Volt at every opportunity in blatant attempts to kill it. It is stupid and old already.

Nobodies knees jerk when you mention your love of 1969 Cadilacs (which I share) and points out that they too had at least one recall for a problem which could result in "UNEXPECTED LOSS OF THROTTLE CONTROL MAY RESULT IN AN ACCIDENT." http://www.lemonlawspecialists.com/r...=Cadillac&model=CADILLAC&year=1969

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Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:00 pm

Quoting mham001 (Reply 38):
Nobodies knees jerk when you mention your love of 1969 Cadilacs

Wrong.
1970s Lincolns.
Anyhow, the Cadillac you are talking about wasn't subsidized and a government pet project.
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Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:18 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 39):
1970s Lincolns.

OK. Many of which were victims of multiple recalls. BFD. Not really pertinent to the conversation, eh?

Quoting Superfly (Reply 39):
Anyhow, the Cadillac you are talking about wasn't subsidized and a government pet project.

That Cadillac and all cars were/are heavily subsidized, it just wasn't transparent.
 
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Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:35 pm

Quoting mham001 (Reply 40):
That Cadillac and all cars were/are heavily subsidized, it just wasn't transparent.

No they were not. If they were, then that would mean every car made was subsidized from the Vega up to the Fleetwood. Put down the Ralph Nader conspiracy theory books.   
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Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:06 pm

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 36):
I find it pretty fitting, as the people who buy hybrids tend to be pricks.

I'm not. But I like pricks...   
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Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:48 pm

Quoting Aesma (Reply 31):

Diesel engines that take cooking oil are old NA engines, not modern turbo common rail ones. I don't know how it works in the US but here it's even illegal to make your own fuel (I don't think it's enforced).

Wrong

http://www.greasecar.com/

One of the most common veg oil conversions in the US is done on VW TDI cars, which are common rail + turbocharged.

You just need to be sure you're not using hydrogenated oil, and that it's completely free of water and properly filtered. Otherwise you can pretty much dump it straight into the tank, with some minor exceptions.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 42):
But I like pricks...

Please tell us something we don't already know   

[Edited 2012-01-30 13:49:23]
 
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Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:10 pm

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 43):

Please tell us something we don't already know   

I'm going to ask you to carefully consider all of my possible answers to your post and then decide whether you REALLY want me to answer that question.  

So I do wonder what kind of MPG hit the Prius takes with this...er...growth. It may not weigh much, but the aerodynamics are atrocious. I'm thinking you're best off just buying a hybrid SUV.
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Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:36 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 44):

I'm going to ask you to carefully consider all of my possible answers to your post and then decide whether you REALLY want me to answer that question.


I think I'll pass   
 
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Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:58 pm

Quoting af773atmsp (Reply 15):
though I do think Toyota should make a Prius MPV, bigger than the Prius V and smaller than the Sienna.

They already do.

 
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Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:03 pm

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 45):

I think I'll pass   

Smart man.  

Look, if you want a camper, get a camper.

If you want the most fuel-efficient mid-sized car on the market (yes, even more efficient than the TDI under reasonable driving conditions), then get a Prius.

The Prius is a very efficient road car. I am tired of hearing it ragged on because it is not:
*a pickup
*any good at off-road
*a sports car
*pretty

It aims to be none of these things. It aims to use as little fuel as possible and at THAT, it is excellent. I speak as an owner with a 50 mile commute each way.
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Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:56 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 41):
No they were not.

Of course they were. The entire industry is subsidized by our tax money funneled into oil and road development. That oil subsidy in particular allowed us to buy cars like those Caddy's and Lincolns that got 7 mpg with a good tailwind. Meanwhile GM and a few oil companies were buying up all the electric trolley and bus systems they could so they could sell their dirty diesels.

Don't mind me though, Bob Lutz said it for me today.....
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While as a conservative Republican I may well share the goal, I deplore the means employed to attain it. The conservative cause damages itself, destroys its credibility through the expedient spreading of untruths. The public will figure it out.

The right-wing “talking heads”, O’Reilly and Limbaugh at the forefront, have managed to make me embarrassed to describe myself as a conservative."


http://www.forbes.com/sites/boblutz/...volt-and-the-wrong-headed-right/2/

Quoting Aesma (Reply 33):
I'm just talking about the concept, not the realization.

This is the type of damage that ignorant people are doing to American engineering. There is nothing wrong with the Volt or the concept, in fact, owners seem to be ecstatic with the car. The trashing you read is nothing more than weak flailing against Obama. Ridiculous really since it was Bush who did everything they say they hate. Bush pushed the technology. Bush was in charge when the tax credit was implemented. Bush actually had some vision on the matter but the right-wingers won't hear it.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 46):
Quoting af773atmsp (Reply 15):
though I do think Toyota should make a Prius MPV, bigger than the Prius V and smaller than the Sienna.

They already do.

That is the Prius V.
 
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Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:55 am

Quoting mham001 (Reply 48):
Meanwhile GM and a few oil companies were buying up all the electric trolley and bus systems they could so they could sell their dirty diesels.

Still crying about the demise of the street cars in the 1950s?
Not sure how you drag Bill O'reilly and Limbaugh in to a discussion about a camper option for an existing car.  
I don't recall President Nixon advocating tax credits for those that buy a large Cadillac.

Oil is used in everything so you can't single out specific types of cars for using oil. The amount of oil burned transporting raw materials for those huge batteries for those hybrids across freight rail lines across continents and ships across oceans burns a hell of a lot more oil than an old large vehicle that gets 7MPG.
Also, trains use lots of oil, medical supplies use lots of oil-based products, bicycles use oil based products and I doubt people want to go back to glass shampoo bottles. Those are no fun when they break in the shower.
We are ALL guilty of committing oil sins.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 47):
Look, if you want a camper, get a camper.

Agreed but I do think the Prius camper would be a hit at Burning Man.  
Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 43):
One of the most common veg oil conversions in the US is done on VW TDI cars, which are common rail + turbocharged.

So can someone buy a brand new VW Passat TDI and go to the nearest Kentucky Fried Chicken and fuel up?
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