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Do You Believe In Paranormal Stuff?

Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:25 pm

I'm a very skeptical person, and I don't buy any story unless the source is veeeery reliable.
That was the case with my uncle, an old, reliable and serious person, who suffered a really bad experience some years ago. He lived with his family ( wife and two boys ) in a big house in Viña del Mar, and had a "nanny" living with them in the house for several years, she actually was like a second mother for my cousins.
To make the long story short, after the nanny died, they started to experience some really weird situations, like the doors of the kitchen cabinets opening "alone", or wake up and find the water running in the faucet without any failure or good explanation. Finally after some weeks of strange situations and probably a good amount of paranoia they leave that house and moved to other house where the strange situations disappeared, but the whole thing cost him a good pile of money and several nights of insomnia.
Other thing ( this is something that I experienced myself and it is a little creepy ) that I found close to "paranormal stuff" is the "capacity" of predicting very random and "strange" situations, like seeing a car and "feel" the certainty about that very same car suffering an accident, only to found the ( very same ) car smashed into a tree 8 hours later. How on Earth could this be possible ? Yes, I know, just a coincidence..... or not ?      



What about you people ? Some interesting story to tell ?

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Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:16 pm

Yes i believe in the paranormal.

My house is haunted, by what or whom I don't know. At first it was freaky and scary, but now I'm used to it.

Various stuff gets moved around the house, its item of choice at the moment is my mobile phone. A few days ago i found it in the dishwasher one morning. I know I didn't put it in there, before I went to bed I turned the dishwasher on to go through its cycle, but my phone wasn't water damaged and still works.

Bottles of beer have been opened in the fridge, pens and pencils have been placed into a couple of trophy's in my office.

The history of the house is a nightmare, it dates back to the early 1800's. It used to have a servants quarters, and outside is a stable block for a couple of horses. I shall just have to keep digging to see if anybody died of their own accord or not.
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Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:01 am

Long story short. Few weeks after my grandfather died, I encountered something....weird. Was taking a shower which was in my parents room. I heard a door shut, so figured my mom was home. Got out and dried off, opened the bathroom door to find the light off and the bedroom door shut in the bedroom. My only thought was why the hell did she do that knowing I was in here? Get out and say "what's going on??". Come to the realization nobody is home still and maybe 10 seconds after that I hear the garage door open. Mom walks in and I ask "were you just home?" She says no. I say "well who shut the lights off and closed the door while I was in the shower????". All she replied with was "ask your father, weird things happened to him at work recently".

This was back in the first week of Jan 1999 since he died just after xmas 1998, so that was quite awhile ago but never forgot that.

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Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:29 am

Yes, I believe that we live in one of many dimensions (or multiverses, if you like). My mother died after a long battle with cancer, and she was a hospice patient being cared for at her home. After she died, my stepfather sometimes smelled her "signature" perfume in the house several months after my mother died. Her clothing had been given away to family members or Goodwill about a month after she died, so we could rule out that the odor of her perfume was from her old clothes. Then, my brother-in-law almost had a heart attack when he saw a "ghost" (that he swears that it was my Mother) standing in the foyer of her house - he came into the house through the garage to pick up some paperwork my sister needed, and my stepfather was not at home. When my stepfather got home and heard my brother-in-law's story, he said that he had seen the same thing in the master bedroom about 3 weeks before. They sat in the kitchen and drank a couple of Scotch on the rocks together to calm themselves down. My sister and I have been to the house and walked around, asking Mom to let us know that she's there - but nothing has happenned to us, at least not yet. I know she's there, but she's there to check up on what we're doing in her house. My Mother was the "boss" of her house and she was always checking up on what we were doing.... LOL   
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Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:43 am

I do not believe in the paranormal. I have had, however a few things happened to me that for however much thought I´ve given to them, I have not found an explanation. I´m sure there must be one, but I have not found it.

1) The most recent, I was with my cousin, his wife and baby at the family "quinta" or mansion in MDZ. It´s huge, dates from the early 1800s and used to be a hotel-spa (yes they existed back then) Last year, at night, my cousin and I went to the kitchen and out a door that leads to a patio, for wood. There was no wind, and the door was swollen due to humidity so unless you did not push hard, it wouldn´t move. We left it half open. His wife and the baby were at the other end of the house. When we were returning, just a couple of feet from my face, the door slammed shut, leaving the two of us stuck in the patio. How did that thing slammed like that? Again, no wind, stuck. Beats me. My cousin was white as a sheet.

Later, my cousin who actually spends a lot more time there and has, throughout his life, told me that strange stuff happens there all the time, but that that thing wth the door was something he had never seen.

2) My brother works at night, he owns a couple of bars. I usually stay up until he gets home. A couple of times, I could have swore I heard him arrive and have entered his room, only to find it empty. The light in the hallway is on when this happens, which, of course, he turns it on when he does get home. The first time it happened, I was sort of very surprised. The second time I ignored it. I figure the cat must up to something at night. Or,

The previous owners of this house were a married couple that died here of old age. The sons and daughters fought for years over who would get what, including this house. When we bought it, it had been empty for close to 4 years. It was a bargain, given all the bad blood between the surviving family. Maybe that explains it?
 
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Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:47 am

When I was a little kid my big brother and I were horsing around and he fell on the ground on a blanket, with his feet out of sight out the doorway to our bedroom. Next he began to slide backward out of the room with no visible means of propulsion...one of his arms was in a cast and it didn't look like he was pushing himself backwards.

He said he looked back and a "black dot" was pulling on the blanket. We got some wiffle bats and spent the rest of the day hunting for the black dot. Never found it.

I know (or am 99% sure) that he was messing with me but it makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck 35 years later.

So I think that if I saw the kind of paranormal stuff you guys are describing I would be pretty freaked out!

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Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:07 am

My relatives back in Portugal believe highly in the power of black magic and all that jazz...

To be honest, I can say that I sort of believe it...

My brother was a massive self-'disaster' about 8 years ago. Alcohol, drugs...a total square going nowhere. After a family trip there in 2004, and a visit to the local witch-doctor by my mother and grandmother...3 years later my brother was totally clean. Started a family, off of the drugs, off of the alcohol, and making nearly as much money as me.

Coincidence? Maybe. I buy into that whole witch doctor thing about 25% but man am I proud of him now.
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Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:08 am

I do believe in the paranormal. I listen to Coast To Coast AM. Yes, a lot of the show is conspiracy theories and some sensationalism but a lot of the stuff seems realistic. Can't write it off as coincidence.
Ever notice how you look at a clock and it always is 11:11, 1:11, 2:22 etc.? Eastern flight 401 ghosts and apparitions.Could come up with more.
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RE: Do You Believe In Paranormal Stuff?

Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:16 am

No. Not at all.

There is a 1,000,000 dollar prize offered by the magician James Randi for anyone who can prove a paranormal power or event in double-blind testing, etc. He has never had to give it to anyone. There is always an explanation. Or the "psychic" is a fraud or deluding himself/herself.

I do believe that the human brain is pretty amazing and complex though.

Psychology explains a LOT of things. As just one example, we often get premonitions, but we only notice or remember them those few times that they do come true. Also, a lot of people can sense and feel and dream a lot about each other form perfectly explainable interactions and subtle body clues. And so forth.
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Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:19 am

Quoting n229nw (Reply 8):
I do believe that the human brain is pretty amazing and complex though.


That should cover that topic!
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Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:50 am

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 7):
Ever notice how you look at a clock and it always is 11:11, 1:11, 2:22 etc.?

That's an easy one. You remember when you look at the clock and it's 11:11 or 12:34... If it's 2:37, you look at the clock 60 seconds later because you've already forgotten what time it is... It happens to me all the time, at least.

Main thread: no, I can't say I believe in this paranormal stuff--since I don't believe in it, it probably can't affect. Were I to ever see a ghost... I'd probably crap my pants, though. I'm not saying it's impossible ghosts, etc, exist, but I find so highly unlikely that it doesn't figure in my phobias.

Aliens, on the other hand... man, that was my childhood fear of the dark. Not the boogeyman.
 
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RE: Do You Believe In Paranormal Stuff?

Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:06 am

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 7):
Ever notice how you look at a clock and it always is 11:11, 1:11, 2:22

For me, it is always 9:11. Every day. No matter what.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 10):
no, I can't say I believe in this paranormal stuff--since I don't believe in it,

I have lived in two houses with spirits. Neither time I was freaked out. The second time, the spirit was a little boy and he tried to get me to leave. I knew his game and never backed down. He had is area, I had mine. Yes, I believe in spirits. They are around. I have experienced it.

As for aliens: You mean to tell me in the infinity of space with all the stars out there and all the elements we have not yet discovered nor can even comprehend that we are the only rock with life? In all of infinity? Really? Just us?
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Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:16 am

Quoting seb146 (Reply 11):
As for aliens: You mean to tell me in the infinity of space with all the stars out there and all the elements we have not yet discovered nor can even comprehend that we are the only rock with life? In all of infinity? Really? Just us?

I meant quite the opposite--aliens are the only thing I ponder because I know they exist, somewhere. How far away? Who knows. Unless they took advantage of physics we don't know about yet, they probably haven't made it to Earth. But they might--that's why they're my personal fear of the dark.

Quoting seb146 (Reply 11):
I have lived in two houses with spirits. Neither time I was freaked out. The second time, the spirit was a little boy and he tried to get me to leave. I knew his game and never backed down. He had is area, I had mine. Yes, I believe in spirits. They are around. I have experienced it.

I watch shows on discovery channel regarding spirits and apparitions--but given what I see there I don't really take it seriously. But, who am I to say it can't happen...
 
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RE: Do You Believe In Paranormal Stuff?

Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:20 am

Love discussing this stuff.

Bottom line for me: I'm not sure. I've never had any paranormal events happen in my life; at least none I can remember. I don't know if you guys consider "déjà vu" paranormal or not? Pretty sure psychology has a logical explanation to explain it. I'll have to ask the doc in my psych lecture tomorrow. We are studying the basics of the brain right now.

One of my favorite horror/thriller films is Insideous. While its more "demonic possession" than "paranormal", I find that movie and others like it incredibly fascinating.

In St. Paul, MN there is a street with old (old old) houses said to be filled with paranormal entities. I think the street is either Summit or Grand. Can't remember.

Deep down I think this call all be explained via psychology. Example, "seeing a ghost" of a loved one may just be induced by stress, overwhelming emotions, etc.

Any psychologists/ psychiatrists on the board that want to chime in? I find psychology very interesting and would like to hear your input.
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RE: Do You Believe In Paranormal Stuff?

Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:48 am

Quoting Stabilator (Reply 13):
"déjà vu" paranormal or not?

The explanation is somewhat complex. The short version, is that it is a mistake that occurs once in a while in your brain when processing memory of a recent event.
 
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RE: Do You Believe In Paranormal Stuff?

Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:57 am

Quoting AR385 (Reply 14):
The explanation is somewhat complex. The short version, is that it is a mistake that occurs once in a while in your brain when processing memory of a recent event.

I'd be curious as to what the complex explanation is. Like I said, I find this all fascinating.

Do you guys think a person can be possessed by demons? Or do you explain by saying its a severe mental illness?
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RE: Do You Believe In Paranormal Stuff?

Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:59 am

I don't believe I've experienced anything I would classify as paranormal. At least, it wasn't momentous enough to remember.

Quoting Stabilator (Reply 13):
Bottom line for me: I'm not sure.

Same here. While the logical part of my brain says that there are logical explanations for everything, the curious side definitely wants to believe in the paranormal.

Quoting Stabilator (Reply 13):
One of my favorite horror/thriller films is Insideous. While its more "demonic possession" than "paranormal", I find that movie and others like it incredibly fascinating.

My favorite is The Exorcist. I'm by no means an aficionado, but I do love watching horror movies like that.
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Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:22 am

Quoting Stabilator (Reply 13):
I don't know if you guys consider "déjà vu" paranormal or not? Pretty sure psychology has a logical explanation to explain it.
Quoting AR385 (Reply 14):
The explanation is somewhat complex. The short version, is that it is a mistake that occurs once in a while in your brain when processing memory of a recent event.

I read an article about this in Scientific American coupla years back. If I am remembering it with unwaivering correctitude:

Inside your brain, stimuli travel over redundant pathways to the cerebral cortex, which "processes" the event and then stores it in long-term memory. In times of stress, fatigue, anxiety, or any of that nasty stuff, your brain is crowded, and there is more traffic on some of those pathways than others. Due to this extra traffic, the stimuli traveling over redundant pathways do not necessarily arrive in the cortex with their usual simultaneity. The stimulus that arrives later, does so after the cerebral cortex is done with it and stored the event in long-term memory. So when that later stimulus - informing you, like the first stimulus did, of the event you are currently experiencing - arrives, you think the event is from your past.

I hope Doc or someone similarly edumacated in this field can correct (or corroborate!) me.

I always used to dig Scientific American, even though I'm not overall much of a science-y person. Perhaps I will re-subscribe.  
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RE: Do You Believe In Paranormal Stuff?

Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:57 am

Quoting Stabilator (Reply 13):
I don't know if you guys consider "déjà vu" paranormal or not?

Not sure where can be classified, but "déja vu" is one of that things that really freak me out when I have one. Some times the sense of "I already lived this moment " is so intense !!



Quoting Stabilator (Reply 13):
One of my favorite horror/thriller films is Insideous.

Mine was ( and still is ) "Fallen" with Denzel Washington. Every time I see that movie the song of The Rolling Stones stays with me for weeks, specially the part that " Azazel " likes more : Tiiiime is on MY side...Yes it Is !!!!     

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Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:32 pm

In a nut shell yes I do however I am always looking for an explanation. Where I live you get a very interesting phenomena called the Seneca Lake Drums.

Per Wikipedia:

Seneca Lake is also the site of a strange and currently unexplained phenomenon known as Mistpouffers. In this area, they are called the Seneca Guns, Lake Drums, or Lake Guns. These are mysterious cannon-like booms and shakes that are heard and felt in the surrounding area. The term Lake Guns originated in the short story "Lake Gun" by James Fenimore Cooper in 1851.[2] Many believe that they are caused by giant air bubbles from deep in the lake bursting on the surface, which is not believed to be true. Others equate it with Indian folklore. The most likely explanation is due to sonic booms from military aircraft, though this does not explain the sounds heard during Cooper's time.

They are freaky but totally cool!!
 
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RE: Do You Believe In Paranormal Stuff?

Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:30 pm

Sorry about this long post, but this is a subject that I love.

I'm pretty ambivalent myself about the existence of ghosts. But I've always loved a good ghost story, all the way from a very young age.

I guess you could say that it's my mother's fault. She used to tell us some creepy ass stories about growing up in rural Philippines. She tells us about a floating coffin she and her father encountered and a black cat that grew larger and larger at her and her sister's feet. But the best one has always been about her mysterious maid.

This was the early 70's when my mother was pregnant with my older sister. She was still living in the Philippines, so they had several maids to help around the house. One night, while my mom was reading her komiks under a mosquito net, the youngest maid walked in to see my mother. My mother was surprised, as she hadn't seen this servant for a couple of days. The maid looked very forlorn and explained that she would have to be leaving. My mom was confused, as this was the first she had heard of this. My mother kept asking why, but the maid would only say that she had to go "very, very far away."

The next day, my mom was talking to her sister. My aunt told my mother that she was sorry to hear the news. My mother had not heard anything significant, so she was baffled. My aunt was taken aback that her sister hadn't heard that the young maid was found dead earlier the day before, drowned in a river. My mother refused to believe it and only did when they rushed to the morgue and she saw the young girl's face frozen in a block of ice as she waited for relatives to retrieve her.

My mother swears by this story though she, like me, is undecided about what she actually experienced.

We lived in what could be described as a haunted house in Virginia Beach from 1985-1990. It was military housing, so families were rotating in and out every few years. Who knows what the hell happened there, but whatever was in there felt truly malevolent. A huge, brass antique crucifix once slid a foot off of a table, we'd hear voices under the dial tone when picking up the phone and the tv would start changing channels randomly, especially during the best shows like Night Court.

I've also attended and lived on famously haunted campuses like Saint John's University in Minnesota and the University of Montevallo in Alabama, so I have a lot of experiences there. I even used to do a website where I shared all of these stories, though it doesn't exist anymore. I've kept the stories, though, in case I ever try to resurrect it.

But I've never seen any hard evidence to confirm the existence of ghosts. I had heard things, saw flashes and felt chills, but never anything concrete. Until that one day in February 1999...

In Chapel Hill, Tennessee, there is one of many railroad light legends similar to the many across the globe. A worker or a bum or a child was killed by a train and now searches the tracks looking for his head or his liquor or his parents. In Chapel Hill, one is supposed to see a burnt amber flame, wandering aimlessly in the distance as the victim shows himself to terrorize bored young adults.

We were told by locals that the lights were only seen from one of two crossings. We had to turn off of the main highway and drive until the road ended. Whether we turned left or right at this point, we would end up at a crossing. But the crossing to the left (south) was where we needed to go.

So there we were, parked just a few feet from the tracks shivering inside the car at midnight in the gripping February icebox. We waited for about 15 minutes, at which point I was getting impatient. I made some remark, but no one responded. I looked to my left (north) from the passenger seat where I noticed the driver staring in the same direction out her window, giving her steering wheel some of that lesbian Kung Fu grip. I looked beyond her at what everyone else in the car was staring at- a burnt amber light, flickering in the distance, wandering aimlessly along the tracks to our north.

I was fascinated. I was finally seeing something just as the legends described. I was excited, but the driver was nearly hyperventilating. Reluctantly, I told her that she could leave if she wanted to. It was just a few moments later that we found ourselves back in town discussing what to do.

I wanted to go back. I wanted to see it all again, but the driver was still shaken, I offered to drive and she accepted. We made our way back off the main road to its end where we were to turn left. It was there that the truth was revealed. As we waited to turn, a CSX maintenance truck appeared to our right, obviously returning from doing some maintenance work at the crossing to the north of where we were, just where we were looking.

I don't see that night as a disappointment. We still had a hell of a time just getting the shit scared out of us. That's why I don't get into all of the EVP and electromagnetic field stuff that people say proves that something is present. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. I really don't care.

And, truthfully, I also don't care if the existence of ghosts is ever proven or not. I just love the stories. I mean, the fact that Daleks, Weeping Angels and Time Lords don't exist doesn't make me love Doctor Who any less.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 10):
That's an easy one. You remember when you look at the clock and it's 11:11 or 12:34... If it's 2:37, you look at the clock 60 seconds later because you've already forgotten what time it is.

A really good psych teacher I had at Montevallo explained it this way- watch as someone looks at their watch. A few seconds later, ask them what time it is. Unless it is one of those memorable times like 11:11, chances are they will have to check their watch again. The reason, he said, was that when we look at the time, it's mostly for what time it's not rather than for what time it is.

BOO. Only 8 more months to Halloween.

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Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:48 pm

Quoting stasisLAX (Reply 3):
Yes, I believe that we live in one of many dimensions (or multiverses, if you like). My mother died after a long battle with cancer, and she was a hospice patient being cared for at her home

Sorry to hear, my mom was just given that as her only option at this point today.

To finish off my other story from before. On 2 occasions we've had a snow globe go off on it's own. Now part of me thinks there was enough tension left on the windup part and maybe the table settled and caused the mechanism to slip and start to play. But it was on what would be a year and 1 day after my father died (which would be his birthday). Approx 10:30am we were in my bedroom (gf, myself and 16 month old). Then the snow globe started playing music by itself in the living room. We were creeped out and I jokingly pass it off as my dad stopping by on his birthday. Forgot how long time had passed after that, but it happened again at 3am. Played 3 full revolutions and stopped. Wouldn't wind up after that and we ended up throwing it out.

If there was a little tension left in it, I understand, but for it to play 3 full revolutions of the song seems weird.
 
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Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:19 pm

For me I think you would have to accept that if one dead person has the power to return and "haunt" or "give signs" then why cant the rest? Say a bad spirit exists to scare you why wouldnt a dead relative or friend be there protecting you?

If one can move a phone or slam a door why cant one give a kiss or supply you with gifts?

If there were ghosts and they had these powers surely they would put it to more use then simply moving an object in a random house? Eh who knows..

As for the TV shows abotu ghosts.. they are all a croc of shit. Its conveniently always night time? Always some form of morbid music must be played during the show.. there can only ever be 3 or 4 people around because tv ghosts are scared of crowds and sunlight? etc etc heh

If we can come back after death ima be reeking havoc at the playboy mantion screw all this slamming door stuff.
 
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Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:18 am

Quoting Giancavia (Reply 22):
For me I think you would have to accept that if one dead person has the power to return and "haunt" or "give signs" then why cant the rest? Say a bad spirit exists to scare you why wouldnt a dead relative or friend be there protecting you?

Well, millions of people believe that a guy who died 1,979 years ago resurrected three days later and appeared inside a locked house (including windows) to his former students. He scared the shit out of practically all of them but particularly of one, who questioned wether he was who he said he was, so he showed him his wounds. This particular spirit is considered very benevolent.

Quoting Giancavia (Reply 22):
If one can move a phone or slam a door why cant one give a kiss or supply you with gifts?

Some do. If you believe in those stories. Some of them actually point to clues of where important things may be hidden. And honestly, if the most gorgeous ghost came and give me a kiss, no matter how benevolent its intentions were, I´d probably wet myself.

Quoting Giancavia (Reply 22):
As for the TV shows abotu ghosts.. they are all a croc of shit. Its conveniently always night time? Always some form of morbid music must be played during the show.. there can only ever be 3 or 4 people around because tv ghosts are scared of crowds and sunlight? etc etc heh

I agree. The Discovery channel ones are particularly sorrowful. I watch them sometimes for the amusemt factor only, when there´s nothing else playing on TV.

I´m with you. I do not believe in these things. But the fact that every Sunday millions of people fill up temples (at least in my neck of the woods) to celebrate what is essentially a Paranormal event, makes me wonder wether believing in the Paranormal is a part of human nature. In any case, I´m not going to judge anyone who does.
 
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Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:51 am

I'm a Christian and I believe that demons are real and not to be trifled with.
 
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Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:41 am

Quoting AR385 (Reply 23):
I´m with you. I do not believe in these things. But the fact that every Sunday millions of people fill up temples (at least in my neck of the woods) to celebrate what is essentially a Paranormal event, makes me wonder wether believing in the Paranormal is a part of human nature. In any case, I´m not going to judge anyone who does.

Well lets just say I am not remotely religious on that note lol.

I think of it this way.. I had an ex whos mother died in a car accident.. my ex was like 21 and her mother was her life. I can see the pain it caused her everyday and how much she would have given for a moment or some comfort. If it is possible for "spirits" to come out of nowhere and waste their time doing ridiculous things like move phones or close doors you would assume they could summon the power to ease the immense pain of a loved one for just 1 moment. I speak of one situation but no doubt countless millions have lost ppl they loved and could beg for that moment and it just wont ever happen.

The world is an odd place that isnt easy to comprehend, Throw in the rest of that dark space that we are all spinning around in and it becomes even more surreal. "Aliens" sure its a possibility other lifeforms live in this vast universe.. "Giant sea creatures" hidden in depths of the ocean we cant discover yet? Sure its not beyond the realms of possibility.. selected people out of billions that have died throughout history allowed to come back from death to fullfil completely pointless tasks? Doesnt make sense to me.. but who knows.
 
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Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:49 am

These are my beliefs, so obviously some will disagree.

We are energy. There is a lot more to us than flesh and bones. Many religions and different disciplines have taught this for thousands of years. Most of them seem to point to this life being one step towards something else, that our spirits move on after physical death. The theory is that we move on to another level. The more we hold on to earthly things, or if we lack in spiritual development, we might stay "hanging around" so to speak, and some entities are particularly powerful as far as being able to manifest themselves in physical ways.

Sudden unexpected death sometimes leaves the spirit disoriented and hanging on to things "left to do" or in need of fixing. "The Ghost of Flight 401" comes to mind. The data seems to point to something very real there. Ask Eastern Airlines (if they were still around) why they pulled those spare parts (originally from the crashed airplane #310) from the fleet, even though they were tested and in perfect working order. All this at the same time that they denied the apparitions and referred any crew member who had seen one to the shrink.

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 24):

I'm a Christian and I believe that demons are real and not to be trifled with.

So am I. The Bible specifically warns about trifling with spiritual entities. I don't believe all of them are bad, but when you start "trifling" with them you open doors, and you can't control what comes through those doors. Many don't believe it but possessions and exorcisms are real. The Bible has plenty of examples as well. I've seen enough to feel that it has to be true.
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Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:09 pm

To the spirits that stole my cell/mobile phone yesterday:

Please give it back! It's not funny.

This dorm room is just 15 m^2, where the devil could it be?.. Let's jump to conclusions and say a poltergeist stole it! I didn't even drink or black out... I have no idea what happened... I hope I didn't eat it by accident.
 
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Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:31 am

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 27):
I hope I didn't eat it by accident.

Me too; I hope you ate it on purpose.
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Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:42 am

Quoting Airstud (Reply 28):

Me too; I hope you ate it on purpose.

I have only one thing to reply to that: pancakes are, indeed, delicious.  

BTW I did find my cell phone, hehe. No poltergeists required.

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Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:16 am

I am a very strong believer in the paranormal, ranging from ghosts to demons. I am a paranormal researcher, and my family and I have had MANY experiences over the years. So I don't believe ghosts exist. I KNOW IT. I have this ability, I can sense spirits. Take my college for example. I just knew there were several haunted buildings. Come to do some research, and apparently back in the 1600s and 1700s, the area my school occupies was a slave trade market, and it was close to one of the routed Washington took into/out of what is now NYC (I don't remember if it was into out out of).

Several people I knew, ranging from fellow students to coworkers to highly respected professors had experiences on campus, and in fact there is one building that is so haunted, none of my former coworkers would enter it at night alone.

I can't convince anyone to believe in the paranormal, but I do.

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Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:01 am

I don't really buy into it. Having said thatI'm not a complete cynic towards the unknown, I don't rule out the existence of Sasquatch.I think there is a biological justification for their existence, I don't think the same about ghosts.
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Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:46 am

Minneapolis City Hall is said to be haunted.
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Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:50 am

I do believe in the paranormal. I should say that I am about as psychic as a rock, i've never seen nor felt the presence of a ghost, but I have had a couple of experiences.

The first was in 1994 or thereabouts. I was in very bad straits in life. I was going to school but my heart wasn't really in it, I was working as a pizza delivery driver, and I was constantly getting myself into trouble with money. I was seriously considering opening the window of my 12th story apartment and taking a flyer. Then one night I had this experience. I went to bed and I began suffering from sleep paralysis, something that had happened before and which scared the hell out of me so i always fought it off. Well, that particular night, i decided to just let things take their course. There was the paralysis part, the electric hum around my head, the lightning bolts shooting into my ears, then there was this acceleration noise in my head. For lack of a better term, it sounded like an old 727 winding up it's engines and accelerating. Finally i had this feeling of motion. I was going faster and faster. I could feel the wind blowing over me as i moved. The next thing I knew i was watching myself sitting in a room with my grandmother, whom I adored and who had died six years earlier. My grandmother and I were sitting at a plain white round table with white chairs. I couldn't hear the conversation, I could only see myself and my grandmother from a distance across the room. After a while I woke up.

Within 1 to 2 days of having that experience I woke up to find this teenager sitting on the doorstep of my mind. He would not go away. He had a story to tell and he wanted me to tell it. At first I suggested I wasn't a writer. He still wouldn't go away. So, finally, just to make him happy, and maybe get him to go away, I sat down at my computer and began putting his story on paper. I literally could not stop writing. I could never have imagined the story he told me, it was just crazy, but, it became an obsession. I worked on it every waking moment and as i did, things began to get better for me. My life began to turn around. while I did end up being evicted from my apartment I began moving towards my ultimate career choice and first real job.

I'm convinced that this kid who came to me was a real person who had already gone over to the other side, sent to me by my grandmother to keep me from flying out my twelfth story window. I'll never know who he really was, and I think that's the way he wants it, he gave me a name to use that's probably fictitious because it's unique yet completely generic. I've been working on his story for the last 18 years putting it on paper, editing it, improving it, and I'm convinced that he looks over my shoulder as I do because if I don't take the story in the direction he wants it to go in, complete and total writer's block results.

My second experience:
Nine months ago a very close friend died unexpectedly. (I should say though that we knew she was going to die eventually as she had a smoking related illness, I just didn't expect her to die at that very moment, it was completely unexpected) I was absolutely crushed. A day or so after she died, before I went to bed, I sat down at my computer, focused on the tiled wallpaper I had created from her facebook profile picture and said, "I want to know that you're okay. I want to know that you've made it safely to wherever you've gone." 24 hours after that i had this completely spontaneous vision of my friend getting out of her hospital bed and getting onto a palomino, riding down the hallway and galloping into the air. Huge wings sprouted from her back as the horse charged upwards towards a cloud where her parents were both standing, holding martinis and waving with cats circling around their feet. As she rode towards the cloud, she became younger and more beautiful (she was 71 when she died) and as she got closer to the cloud the horse fell away and she continued soaring towards her waiting parents. I was convinced then that she was okay. She was in a better place. The funny thing about the whole thing was that the image i saw was in the form of a cartoon. I'm sure that was her way of telling me not to worry.

Those are my stories.
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Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:07 pm

No, I don't.

Haunted spirits, ghosts . . . siiliness. Feng shui, and tarot cards readers . . . a way to cheat others out of their money. Ghost hunter shows on TV trying to pass a science . . . a bunch of c***.

Does other life exist in the universe? Probably so. Will machines reach sentience? Yes. Is there life after death and other dimensions? Well, you can't say no.

But ghosts and goblins and psychics, if it were real it would have been scientifically unobjectively confirmed by now, simple existance if not cause. But instead when properly tested it gets debunked.

This is enough time wasted on this topic. Rather than telling ghosts stories around a campfire, go read a book, get some exercise, bake some cookies, spend time with friends or family, or enjoy some community work. That's all real.
 
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Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:58 pm

The funniest thing on the forum today is this thread that asks... "Do you believe in God?" and the thread that asks "Do you believe in Paranormal stuff?"

Excuse me for asking.... but aren't these two threads the same thing?  
 
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Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:48 pm

Claiming with absolute certainty that ghosts and/or the paranormal do not exist is as shortsighted as someone from the middle ages claiming with absolute certainty that radio waves do not exist.

Just because we lack the ability to detect something does not prove it does not exist.
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Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:50 pm

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 36):
Claiming with absolute certainty that ghosts and/or the paranormal do not exist is as shortsighted as someone from the middle ages claiming with absolute certainty that radio waves do not exist.

Just because we lack the ability to detect something does not prove it does not exist.

With that logic everything from Unicorns to hobgoblins could be "real".
 
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:35 am

Quoting Giancavia (Reply 37):
With that logic everything from Unicorns to hobgoblins could be "real".

It's quite arrogant to think that the existence of something depends entirely on our ability to detect it.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:49 am

Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 33):
Those are my stories.

Thanks for sharing them. It sure sounds like both stories have some pretty deep meaning for you, especially the first one. I would be interested in reading the story you are writing (seems like you're still working on it?) if you ever want to share it.

It made me laugh when you said you're as psychic as a rock because I am too, but I did have an experience with a friend that drowned on the beach. After about two months I started having these very real dreams in which I talked to him. I asked him a bunch of questions about what had happened, what he felt and what his experience was. He kept conveying that he was worried about his family suffering for him (he was just a teenager when he died). These dreams were really affecting me so I talked to my dad about it. He said that the same thing had happened to him with an uncle, and that like me at some point he asked for advice. He was told that the deceased person needed help, and that the best he could do was to pray for him or visit his grave. That worked for him and he passed the advice on to me, so I went to his grave and said a prayer. I wasn't expecting anything but the moment I crossed the graveyard's gates when leaving, I felt this huge weight leaving me, a great sense of relief.

Quoting Jet-lagged (Reply 34):
This is enough time wasted on this topic.

You don't have to read the thread if it bothers you. Where is the respect for what other people think?

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 38):
It's quite arrogant to think that the existence of something depends entirely on our ability to detect it.

        
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:00 am

Quoting 757gb (Reply 39):
I did have an experience with a friend that drowned on the beach.

Reminds me of what happened to me the night a friend was killed in a plane crash.

The night of the crash, I had a dream that revolved around him. It was the first time he had ever appeared in one of my dreams. In the dream, he was giving my friends and I rides in his jet.

I knew him for twelve years. That's 4,380 possible nights he could have appeared in one of my dreams.

And the night he did - the night I had that dream - just happened to be the very night he was killed. A day or two before I even knew it happened.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:54 am

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 40):
Reminds me of what happened to me the night a friend was killed in a plane crash.

One night in 4380... It sure doesn't feel like a coincidence does it.

There are many stories of people who had something like that happen to them. My story was the only time something like that happened to me in my dreams.

I have a niece on the other hand that drives me nuts. She always has these dreams (some about death but a lot of them about new life). She almost always knows when a family member or an acquaintance is pregnant because she dreams about it. My nephew and his wife wanted to give everyone in the family a surprise when they found out they were expecting a baby but sure enough they didn't surprise her.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:26 am

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 38):
It's quite arrogant to think that the existence of something depends entirely on our ability to detect it.

Nah I think it is quite logical myself. Otherwise we could just say anything anyone could think up inside their head is "real".
 
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:31 am

One September afternoon quite a few years back, I had Nova Scotia on my mind - no idea why; I mean I am a travel buff and so am often daydreaming just about places, but Nova Scotia was just strongly, distinctly, inexplicably (not that I needed/wanted an explanation) on my mind.

Later that evening, SR111 crashed.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:56 pm

Quoting Giancavia (Reply 42):
Nah I think it is quite logical myself. Otherwise we could just say anything anyone could think up inside their head is "real".

This suggests we humans are the be-all, end-all center of the universe. That the existence of all possible creation throughout the universe is entirely dependent on our three-pound human brains.

Logical? Nope, seems a lot more arrogant to me!   
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:19 pm

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 44):
Logical? Nope, seems a lot more arrogant to me!

Call it what you will, I shall wait until stuff is proven to be real rather then assume everything can be real even if it has never been detected.

If thats arrogance I shall stick my nose right up in the air like a Parisian.
 
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:38 pm

Quoting Giancavia (Reply 45):
Call it what you will, I shall wait until stuff is proven to be real rather then assume everything can be real even if it has never been detected.

It's important to remember that accepting that anything can be real is quite different from assuming everything is real. You seem to be of the opinion that by accepting the possibility of something existing, one considers it likely to exist. This is not the case at all.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:04 pm

Tell you what, I'm a scientist and I believe in what I can measure. Aug 1971 I was in a serious car accident, young lady I was with was killed (I wasn't driving). At the time, my parents were in the UK, which is 6 hours ahead of Winnipeg. Some time after the accident, my father poured me a drink and said at the exact moment of the accident, which would have been 0635 in London, my mother sat bolt upright in bed and said "Something is wrong. Bruce is in trouble."And I was for sure, several days in hospital She claimed she could see car headlights (we got T-boned).

I have no explanation for this but it seems to me to NOT be a coincidence.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:08 pm

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 47):

Tell you what, I'm a scientist and I believe in what I can measure

That's the rub isn't it... I can't wait until science can find a way to measure this type of phenomena. There is something out there. There is A LOT out there beyond the senses. And part of the reason why I want science to prove it and understand it is so we can all gain knowledge and get rid of the charlatans who instinctively do have some knowledge but use it to take advantage of those who don't.
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Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:43 am

Quoting 757gb (Reply 48):
There is something out there

Yes, it's the truth, with apologies to Spooky Mulder.  
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