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Wild Turkey Vs. Coke Truck

Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:43 am

Has anyone ever had this happen ?




Right after I got out of the Navy I bought a new 1956 Buick Century; one day my nephew and I were flying down route 4 between Franklin, Ohio and Middletown, Ohio, doing about 80 mph at the time, and a hen pheasant tried to cross the road, but flew right through the right front window and hit my nephew in the side of the head ! It almost knocked his head off, and it did knock all of the feathers off of the pheasant, filling the car up with pheasant feathers; I was temporarily blinded by all of the feathers and came very near to going off the road and into the river which was right beside the road. All I can say is, this coke truck driver is very lucky he wasn't going 80 mph when he hit that turkey; if he had been, it would come right through the windshield and into his face ! I'm thinking he probably required a change of shorts as it was.

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Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:12 am

I dont know... I think Wild Turkey and Coke go well together...

 
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Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:27 am

Quoting nighthawk (Reply 1):
I think Wild Turkey and Coke go well together...

I thought this would be a thread about a collission involving those two products   
 
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Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:15 am

I've had a few small birds hit the windshield and grill on a couple of buses I drove but one of my work collegues had a pheasant go through the destination sign glass a few years back. The sign has an access panel that opens from the inside of the cabin so the bird popped that open too and ended up spewing feathers inside the bus  
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Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:18 am

Years ago, I had a huge owl swoop down and took out my drivers side mirror. It made for a fun day as I still had to make a delivery, and had to back up to the pump in a tight spot to unload.
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RE: Wild Turkey Vs. Coke Truck

Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:43 am

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 2):
I thought this would be a thread about a collission involving those two products   

Good to know i'm not the only one then    
 
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RE: Wild Turkey Vs. Coke Truck

Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:00 pm

I've had many a wild turkey and coke collision in my day!
 
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RE: Wild Turkey Vs. Coke Truck

Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:27 pm

Quoting nighthawk (Reply 5):
Good to know i'm not the only one then

Heck no...I'd venture to say that anyone who clicks on this thread was expecting a story involving the booze and mixer

"I am dissapoint"
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Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:54 pm

Quoting airportugal310 (Reply 7):
Heck no...I'd venture to say that anyone who clicks on this thread was expecting a story involving the booze and mixer

"I am dissapoint"


Read the title again and think about what it says; if I had been trying to "trick" anyone, I would have left off the word "truck"

Having said that...............................................I posted this for a couple of reasons; partly because it's a remarkable set of photos.

But mainly because it "brings home" something I'm very concerned about; vehicle safety............I happen to live in an area where we have a HUGE deer population, not to mention, seeing wild turkeys is an everyday occurrence around here.
(although this collision didn't happen here) We have many deer-car collisions every week in the county; two times in the 9 yrs I've lived here, I have been passed on county roads when I was driving maybe 25 mph, by vehicles doing 50 mph, only to get a mile or so up the road and have a collision with a deer. Believe me, it's no laughing matter; it almost always ends up doing thousands of dollars of damage to the vehicle, and we have even had a fatality or two because of it. In 9 yrs, I've had a number of deer run out, very close to me, but every time I was going slow, and usually I haven't even had to slam on the brakes.

I don't have much sympathy for people who drive wrecklessly then have accidents because of their ignorance.

I posted this set of photos mainly to get people to "think" about the consequences of collisions with wildlife.

I didn't "survive" 40 years of over-the -road truck driving, only to get my vehicle torn up or my neck broken having a needless collision with an animal. So I am ever so sorry if you were "disappointed"; life is just full of disappointments isn't it ? (I usually get disappointed every time I turn the TV on; it's one reason I leave it off a lot.)

P.S. I must apologize for for clicking on the jpg. 3 times instead of once; I had forgotten how to post a photo.

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Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:59 pm

Quoting geezer (Reply 8):
partly because it's a remarkable set of photos.

totally agree...kind of shocked by them frankly

but geezer, the comments are all tongue in cheek...I know you know that!

Quoting geezer (Reply 8):
So I am ever so sorry if you were "disappointed"; life is just full of disappointments isn't it ?

Your homework assignment for the night is to Google Image "son I am dissapoint" or "meme"
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Quoting geezer (Reply 8):
We have many deer-car collisions every week in the county; two times in the 9 yrs I've lived here, I have been passed on county roads when I was driving maybe 25 mph, by vehicles doing 50 mph, only to get a mile or so up the road and have a collision with a deer. Believe me, it's no laughing matter

I swerve where I can, and most importantly, where it is SAFE for me to do so. I have yet to kill anything other than a small bird that flew into my bumper driving down the highway. I felt rather bad for awhile after that, but c'est la vie
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Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:14 pm

Quoting geezer (Thread starter):
Has anyone ever had this happen ?
Quoting geezer (Thread starter):
Right after I got out of the Navy I bought a new 1956 Buick Century; one day my nephew and I were flying down route 4 between Franklin, Ohio and Middletown, Ohio, doing about 80 mph at the time, and a hen pheasant tried to cross the road, but flew right through the right front window and hit my nephew in the side of the head ! It almost knocked his head off, and it did knock all of the feathers off of the pheasant, filling the car up with pheasant feathers; I was temporarily blinded by all of the feathers and came very near to going off the road and into the river which was right beside the road.

The only similar thing I had happen was when I was a teenager I had bought my first decent car (a '74 Duster), and took my brother out to the back roads to wind it out a bit. Just as we were hitting 70 mph, I saw a flash. It turns out the rabbit with the worst sense of timing ever decided to bolt across the road at the exact wrong instant. I just looked up the width of that Duster, it's around 70 inches. Doing out the math, that rabbit had a window of 6/100ths of a second in which it could have contacted the car, and it did! It's even worse than that, he hit the driver side tire, which is 13 inches wide, so the window was 1/100th of a second!

My friend's granddad used to say "If the dog didn't stop to take a sh!t, he would have caught the rabbit!". I guess my version is "If the rabbit did stop to take as sh!t, or even to fart, he'd still be alive!".

Me and my brother could not believe the rabbit's timing was so bad. I had to turn around and inspect the tire tracks on the rabbit to be convince ourselves that indeed we hit the rabbit.

Quoting nighthawk (Reply 1):
I dont know... I think Wild Turkey and Coke go well together...

Me ruin good bourbon by putting sticky-sweet Coca Cola in it? Never!

Quoting geezer (Reply 8):
We have many deer-car collisions every week in the county; two times in the 9 yrs I've lived here, I have been passed on county roads when I was driving maybe 25 mph, by vehicles doing 50 mph, only to get a mile or so up the road and have a collision with a deer. Believe me, it's no laughing matter; it almost always ends up doing thousands of dollars of damage to the vehicle, and we have even had a fatality or two because of it. In 9 yrs, I've had a number of deer run out, very close to me, but every time I was going slow, and usually I haven't even had to slam on the brakes.

I have been around a few deer strikes, and indeed it's very bad for everyone involved, including the deer, the car and its passengers. It is a case where you do hope there's a firearm handy to finish the job if needed.
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Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:33 pm

Weirdest thing I've ever hit, and I'm not kidding, was an Owl taking off while carrying a dead squirrel. I didn't really hit the owl, but as I was driving down the road I noticed it was having trouble "climbing." The dead squirrel being carried in its claws hit the window/roof just about the rearview mirror. Darn it if the owl didn't hang on to it. I was going about 30mph at the time. Was an amazing site!! No damage to the car...
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RE: Wild Turkey Vs. Coke Truck

Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:11 am

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 2):

I thought this would be a thread about a collission involving those two products

See, I was thinking the same thing. A truck full of Coke and a truck full of Wild Turkey collide creating a huge, but delicious mess. Oddly, nobody in town showed up to work the next day...

 

But given the picture, I'm pretty sure I know what the last thing to go through that turkey's brain was:
Its asshole!   
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Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:41 am

I almost hit an Emu once, on East I-80 near Warren, NJ on Palm Sunday 2003.

From a distance, I thought it was a deer, not uncommon there at that time of day (about 6:00 PM, near dusk) I slowed up a little, to maybe 45 MPH from 65, the big bird crossed from my left about 300 feet in front of me, bounced off a low box 5th wheel trailer. came across about 150 feet in front of my car back to the left, legs, neck and feathers flying, landing as I got pass in the grass meridian and apparently killed. I hate to think about the pain if that high centered mass bird had landed on my hood or at my windshield level in my then 2000 Mercury Cougar. I also had my mom with me and she can confirm this story. The local newspaper also confirmed this as well.

I have had a few close calls with deer, dogs, cows, and in NZ and Ireland, sheep. When in Australia, I was scared of hitting a 'roo or even a large Wombat, but fortunately never did. When cars and trucks have 'roo bars' you have to wonder that the chances of hitting them is a bit high.
 
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RE: Wild Turkey Vs. Coke Truck

Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:15 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 12):
But given the picture, I'm pretty sure I know what the last thing to go through that turkey's brain was:
Its asshole!

Fantastic! One of my favorite jokes out there when conversation dictates its use!
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Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:10 am

Quoting nighthawk (Reply 1):

I dont know... I think Wild Turkey and Coke go well together..

When I was young I did enjoy a bit of bourbon & Coke. But never the good stuff. I was well taught by my father and long time friend in Baton Rouge that it was sacrilegious to mix GOOD bourbon with anything but water. I did give Dad's friend a bottle of Wild Turkey before going into the Navy and later learned that he hid it under his bed so his wife wouldn't use it with Coke.
 
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Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:24 am

Quoting airportugal310 (Reply 14):

Fantastic! One of my favorite jokes out there when conversation dictates its use!

I'm a bit surprised (and disappointed with all of you, frankly) that I was the first to mention it.
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Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:05 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 16):
I'm a bit surprised (and disappointed with all of you, frankly) that I was the first to mention it.

Dare I say it again..."son, I am disappoint"
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RE: Wild Turkey Vs. Coke Truck

Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:52 am

[quote=airportugal310,reply=9]but geezer, the comments are all tongue in cheek...I know you know that!

I know, I know, I know........just kidding!

I didn't think about this "bird strike" until this evening..................

This happened probably 30 yrs ago.............In Cincinnati, there is a fairly good sized airport, "Lunken Airport", which is right beside the Ohio River; Lunken is all GA, with a lot of Corporate Jets; anyway, two guys took off in a Lear 25, were climbing out, just as they were crossing over the river, maybe 2-300 ft AGL, they hit a loon; as everyone on A.net knows, the old Lears have a two piece windshield, which form a "vee"; I have no idea how fast a Lear is going at this point, but the damned loon came crashing through the left side windshield, hit the pilot so hard it killed him instantly, the whole cockpit filled up with blood, guts and feathers, almost blinding the co-pilot, who instinctivly hauls back on the ....( stick, yoke, whatever the hell a Lear has), did a complete loop, then somehow got control, made a 180, and landed the thing in ONE piece ! And there were a couple of people on the airport that eye-witnessed the whole thing. It got a lot of play on the TV and in the local papers; I'm sure there's probably an accident report about it some place, which I'd love to read.


In 41 years of driving trucks hither and yon, I had dozens and dozens of "near misses" with deer, but on two occasions the deer didn't "make it".

I was west bound on the Pennsylvania Turnpike, about midnight, 65 mph, hammer down in the "hammer lane" with a load of cars; on the whole Pensy Pike there's only one stretch where there's no median strip; just two traffic lanes each direction, with a 24 inch high barrier, steel posts with cables separating the lanes; truck traffic was like "bumper to bumper", both directions; the opposing traffic is less than 6 feet away, going the other direction; it's just west of Bedford, and I was on it........

Car carriers have a car (or P/U truck ) above the cab; to hold the weight on the "headrack" , the tractor has a front "bumper" which is a 1/2 in thick steel plate, a ft wide, which has a 3 inch square steel tube on either side that supports to headrack and load; other words, it's kinda like a tank ! all of a sudden, out come a big doe; all I saw was a "flash", that deer hit my front bumper dead center, went straight UP, at least 15-20 feet high, and came down right into the left eastbound lane; I thought I was about to witness a huge "pile-up" of trucks going both directions............fortunately, everyone held on, and I'll bet that deer was reduced to so much hamburger in about 30 seconds. Everyone just "kept on truckin" !

They usually don't turn out that way; I didn't see it, but I know of an "incident" involving a chicken crossing an Interstate, which ended up in about 6 or 8 trucks piling up, and a couple of fatalities; all because ONE dumb truck driver slammed on his brakes to keep from killing a damned chicken. When you drive for a living, you know you are going to have stuff like that to deal with; and you never have any time to "think it over"; you have to do your "thinking" in advance. You never, ever, brake suddenly for a small animal; if you do, it usually ends up with dead people.

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RE: Wild Turkey Vs. Coke Truck

Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:05 pm

Quoting geezer (Reply 18):
This happened probably 30 yrs ago.............In Cincinnati, there is a fairly good sized airport, "Lunken Airport", which is right beside the Ohio River; Lunken is all GA, with a lot of Corporate Jets; anyway, two guys took off in a Lear 25, were climbing out, just as they were crossing over the river, maybe 2-300 ft AGL, they hit a loon; as everyone on A.net knows, the old Lears have a two piece windshield, which form a "vee"; I have no idea how fast a Lear is going at this point, but the damned loon came crashing through the left side windshield, hit the pilot so hard it killed him instantly, the whole cockpit filled up with blood, guts and feathers, almost blinding the co-pilot, who instinctivly hauls back on the ....( stick, yoke, whatever the hell a Lear has), did a complete loop, then somehow got control, made a 180, and landed the thing in ONE piece ! And there were a couple of people on the airport that eye-witnessed the whole thing. It got a lot of play on the TV and in the local papers; I'm sure there's probably an accident report about it some place, which I'd love to read.

Ask and you shall receive:

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19810407-0

NTSB Identification: CHI81FA043
14 CFR Part 135 Nonscheduled operation of EXECUTIVE AVIA
Aircraft: LEAR JET 23, registration: N400PG

http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief.aspx?ev_id=28240&key=0&print=1

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Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:35 pm

Quoting airportugal310 (Reply 17):
"son, I am disappoint"

I *almost* took off the "-ed" on "disappointed." Almost.
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Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:50 am

Quoting geezer (Thread starter):
All I can say is, this coke truck driver is very lucky he wasn't going 80 mph when he hit that turkey; if he had been, it would come right through the windshield and into his face !


I hit about a 25lb turkey running about 100+ mph in New Mexico on the way home from a ski trip to Red River of all things on a Thanksgiving weekend.
When it came up out of the ditch and started to fly across my path, the thought of it coming through the windshield was of immediate concern, but that joker hit hard in the grill area.
In spite of all the "iron" hanging off the front of a Hummer, the bird missed most of it and did about $800 worth of damage to the few plastic parts that exist on the front. The bird hit near center and the impact caused green poo to cover the passenger side and red blood to cover the left side with legs and thighs protruding out of various parts of the grill area.
I had a red headlight on the left and green on the right, aeronautical correct I guess. I had to stop at a car wash in the next small town and spend about $10 to clean up the vehicle enough to not draw attention by a law enforcements along my travel path.

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Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:29 am

I have some friends who hit an owl. Now this did not kill it only wounded it. They took it home an placed it in their porch to heal. Well turns out the owl was not wounded and was only stunned. in the porch it came out of it. They did not know this and wandered into it. Well this owl was now in full on survival attack mode.




It took them two days to get the pissed off and mean owl out f their porch.

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Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:32 am

Where's the ice to go with it, LOL.
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Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:19 pm

Quoting airportugal310 (Reply 19):
Ask and you shall receive
airportugal310, you da man!

Quoting okie (Reply 21):
The bird hit near center and the impact caused green poo to cover the passenger side and red blood to cover the left side with legs and thighs protruding out of various parts of the grill area.

Lovely visualization to go with my morning coffee.

Actually I contacted a small bird while I was driving my 74 Duster. The thing was wedged in between the grill and the bumper. I didn't find it at my next stop, nor for the next few weeks. Sad thing had to drive around town in the mean time. Oh well, RIP small birdie!
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Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:17 pm

I hit a big German Shepherd dead center with my car, I think in Enlgish you call them an "Oldsmobile", 1989 make. When I saw the thing coming I never thought about hitting the brakes, I just grabbed the steering wheel real hard. I was going about 110km/hr. It felt like hitting a brick wall and I saw the dog fly over the roof of my car and slamming in the pavement on the second reciprocating lane from me. It was alive for a while and kept doing this horrendous yelping.

The enxt day I went over and sure the dog was there, but thankfully pretty dead. I really felt sorry for the thing.

My arms were sore for at least a week, as was my neck and back. The damage to the front of my car was extensive. I had to replace the enitre grill, the bumper and the right headlight.

It wasn´t a pleasant experience.
 
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Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:04 pm

Quoting airportugal310 (Reply 19):
Ask and you shall receive:

Holy cow ! How'd you DO that ? (There's a lot of stuff that I don't know "squat" about, and looking stuff like that up is one of them ! ) I'm looking forward to reading that ( kind busy at the moment) Thanks much for the link Portugal !

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Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:44 pm

Quoting Revelation (Reply 24):
airportugal310, you da man!
Quoting geezer (Reply 26):
Holy cow ! How'd you DO that ? (There's a lot of stuff that I don't know "squat" about, and looking stuff like that up is one of them ! ) I'm looking forward to reading that ( kind busy at the moment) Thanks much for the link Portugal !

thanks guys...I'll be honest, this one wasn't an easy one to find. Lots of random links and strange stuff, but eventually the right combo of words did the trick on the NTSB site

Unfortunately the NTSB description isn't as detailed as I wish it were, but I'm sure that info has to be somewhere too
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Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:44 am

Quoting airportugal310 (Reply 27):
thanks guys...I'll be honest, this one wasn't an easy one to find. Lots of random links and strange stuff, but eventually the right combo of words did the trick on the NTSB site

Unfortunately the NTSB description isn't as detailed as I wish it were, but I'm sure that info has to be somewhere too

Airportugal310;

In just got back home and read the links: Amazing ! I thought I has a pretty good memory, but I was a little off; I thought I remembered the loon went through the left windshield and killed the pilot; instead it was the right side, and it was the F.O. that was the fatality; I knew it had to be more than 20 yrs ago, turns out it was 31 yrs ago !

Here's the thing that surprises me; the pilot / Captain was only 23 yrs old, yet had 3,051 total hours, and 649 hrs in the Lear 23; that sure sounds like a hell of a lot of experience for a kid that young ! And 649 hrs "in type".....? How many 23 yr old guys running around with over 3,000 hrs, a d 649 hrs multi-engine jet time ? Maybe more these days, but in 1981 ?

I remember there was quite a bit of publicity about the incident at the time; I was unaware that the collision had caused a flame-out and complete shut down of the right engine, but I do remember that several experienced pilots on the ground at the airport eye-witnessed the collision, and were completely incredulous that the pilot was able to do a radical 'pitch-up' which ended up in a complete inside loop; when he was able to complete his emergency landing, it was learned that he was still damn near blinded by the debris that had gotten in his eyes; (it would be interesting to learn where this guys flying career took him to after all that. )

Can you imagine the "resume" that 23 yr old had, after pulling that off ! ( Sounds like potential "top-gun" material to me!

After 31 yrs of "thinking" I remembered this incident, thanks to some unbelievable "detective work", I finally find out the official FAA report ! Airportugal......I'm with Revelation........."You da man" ! Thanks again...............

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Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:38 am

Quoting geezer (Reply 28):
and were completely incredulous that the pilot was able to do a radical 'pitch-up' which ended up in a complete inside loop;

I introduce you to (perhaps you may already know of him) to Mr. Clay Lacy, a purveyor of all things Learjet related...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OzWIl8RYlc&feature=related

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Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:00 pm

Quoting airportugal310 (Reply 29):
Doesn't waste much time after takeoff getting it done!

You know, I'm kind of surprised that I'm not familiar with Clay Lacey; I watched 3 or 4 of his videos, then I somehow ended up right in the middle of a bunch of unrelated stuff on U-Tube; I'll be back checking out the rest of them tomorrow;

I use to go to a lot of airshows a few years back, and I've seen Bob Hoover perform several times in person, and a bunch of times in videos; Lacey really knows how to put a Lear through it's paces; some day I would love to read a book explaining about the "economics" of air show performing; someone has to have some seriously "deep pockets" to run around the world performing in a plane like a Lear.

I think Bob Hoover is probably the single greatest natural pilot I've ever seen any place, flying anything; that old dude can do things with an Aero Commander that are totally impossible, yet he does them anyway, and makes it look like a walk in the park; I'm gonna study up on Lacey; the guy is really awesome.

I never cease to be amazed by pilots; until rather recently, I've had a chance to meet and chat with a few at Air Shows, and it seems like every time I talk to one, they're always completely "different" than the rest ! About a year and a half ago my fiancee" became "re-united" with her niece that she hadn't seen or heard from in over 20 years; when Arlene inquired about her two "little boys", she learned that the oldest one is now 30, and has been a fighter pilot in the USAF for about 11 years now;  when I heard that, my ears stood up ! I told her to ask her niece what he flew; a couple days later she had my answer, and asked me........."are F-22A's any good ?" Turns out the kid flew F-15's for maybe 7 yrs, then transitioned to the Raptor about 3 or 4 yrs ago; a year ago at Thanksgiving, 2 or 3 days after the last Raptor "augered in" in Alaska, I had the chance to meet the guy at his mom & dad's house; I had a pre-concieved idea of what fighter jocks are like, from talking to a few at air shows before; this kid is NOT one of those;  totally different; if you have ever seen Major Max Moga, ( the former F-22A demo pilot ), he's just about the same type as the long-lost great nephew. little bitty guy; extremely "laid back", the exact opposite of what I had expected;

Times are tough in our military right now; Things are not worth a damn...............

Charley
Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein

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