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Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:19 am

Qatar Airways has this commercial being aired right now that is supposed to demonstrate how good the cabin crew is. It shows them outside of work helping random people. I think they´re good except for one scene:

http://youtu.be/ejGonnE02Qw

In this commercial a young man (Qatar Airways flight attendant) is in Times Square where a mother is about to pick up her son so that he would be able to see over a crowd that had gathered around some street performer. This is all very well intentioned and the young man is obviously very helpful and well meaning.

However I think it´s a bit creepy for some random man to pick up a kid that he does not know even though the mother is right there. I don´t think anyone should ever do this. If he were a friend of the mother or something then this is fine.

What do you guy´s think.

Apart from this specific scene Qatar Airways has some great and beautiful ads. Including this one, just not this scene.
 
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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:24 am

I do not like the commerical, there is too much going on in such a short time...
 
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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:25 am

Quoting eaa3 (Thread starter):
However I think it´s a bit creepy for some random man to pick up a kid that he does not know even though the mother is right there. I don´t think anyone should ever do this. If he were a friend of the mother or something then this is fine.

What do you guy´s think.

That's creepy in North America where contacts between people are seen as inappropriate or rude or sex-driven or all in one.
In most other places that's fine....as long as the parents agree on the help you provide.
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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:40 am

Quoting VARIG MD-11 (Reply 2):
In most other places that's fine....as long as the parents agree on the help you provide.

I'm inclined to agree with VARIG MD-11

In this ad it's not as though the man simply grabbed the child and hoisted him onto his shoulders, he clearly does communicate with the mother.


On the other hand, I think these kind of commercials come with a certain "suspension of disbelief" in that the scenes they depict would obviously never happen in real life. In that regard it certainly reminds me of this one from BA in 2007: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjhWCfs20IY
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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:08 pm

I thought exactly the same when I saw this advert last night. Very bizarre! I understood the intention upon the ad concluding but until that point I thought it was quite strange and had no idea what was being portrayed.

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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:25 pm

Quoting VARIG MD-11 (Reply 2):

That's creepy in North America where contacts between people are seen as inappropriate or rude or sex-driven or all in one.
In most other places that's fine....as long as the parents agree on the help you provide.

I don´t think it´s a North American thing. Contact is fine. If he were a friend of the family then this would be fine. But I don´t think one should ever offer to pick up a kid like this that you just met. It might be different if the mother had asked for help. Ultimately although this guy seemed like nice guy you aren´t really supposed to interact like this with kids that you don´t know.
 
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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:34 pm

Quoting eaa3 (Reply 5):
I don´t think it´s a North American thing. Contact is fine. If he were a friend of the family then this would be fine. But I don´t think one should ever offer to pick up a kid like this that you just met.

I am saying in other parts of the world that would be okay.
I know to you that's completely out of the blue but in Africa or the Mediterranean, that's nothing extraordinary.
Then you have your ways of thinking and that's fine, but some people have others, the ones creating this ad should have taken that in consideration maybe.
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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:43 pm

Good God. Is there anything Americans aren't worried about these days? In 20 years, most of the USA will live in a bunker in the backyard and never go anywhere or do anything for fear or what might happen. At least Bill Burr is standing out from the terrified crowds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc--FjGgAig
 
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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:44 pm

Yet I still find that less creepy than this SQ commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNEJrd6GkSY
This SQ girl touches pretty much everyone who comes across, including an minor with no parents present. Paired with the slogan "Singapore Girl, you're a great way to fly" I find it a bit more disturbing than the QR ad. This is not to say that the QR one was any good.
 
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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:49 pm

Quoting VARIG MD-11 (Reply 2):
In most other places that's fine....as long as the parents agree on the help you provide.
Quoting shufflemoomin (Reply 7):
Good God. Is there anything Americans aren't worried about these days?

I'm inclined to say that the sentiment is inappropriate. Personal emotions aside, I'm not sure I would portray my business in that way.

I do get the sentiment, but it's too far fetched.

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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:50 pm

Quoting shufflemoomin (Reply 7):
Good God. Is there anything Americans aren't worried about these days? In 20 years, most of the USA will live in a bunker in the backyard and never go anywhere or do anything for fear or what might happen. At least Bill Burr is standing out from the terrified crowds:

No worries. But you don´t offer to pick up a random kid in Times square. Especially in the way that the ad portrayed it. The mother didn´t seem to be looking for help. The guy just ran up to them and offered to hold him. It´s just common sense. If the mother had asked for help then that might be different.

Quoting lucce (Reply 8):
This SQ girl touches pretty much everyone who comes across, including an minor with no parents present. Paired with the slogan "Singapore Girl, you're a great way to fly" I find it a bit more disturbing than the QR ad. This is not to say that the QR one was any good.

In India I don´t think this would be considered strange. Holding hands is very different in India. A lot of men hold hands while walking around and that has nothing to do with sexuality.

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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:17 pm

I think the ad is inappropriate. I don't like the fear culture of the USA but in this case it's spot on. If I was out with my young niece and nephew and a stranger, esp a man, offered to carry one on their shoulders, I would call a cop. It just isn't normal. What were Qatar thinking?

Btw couldn't pick up anything wrong with the SQ ad, thought it was nicely done. She sure wasn't interfering with kids!
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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:32 pm

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 11):
Btw couldn't pick up anything wrong with the SQ ad

She seemed to just touch the kids going by. Saw the commercial a few months ago and the first time I saw it I thought it was weird, and still do to this day.

However, all the other interactions with the SQ girl seem to be in keeping with what SQ wanted from the commercial.
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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:40 pm

People touch people every day - it's human nature. In some countries it is frowned upon. I wouldn't say that was backward thinking but I would say it is a way of trying to condition humans and their nature.

I'm from the countryside and I have no problem with this commercial. It's not creepy, odd or anything like that... BUT, I can see, if you live in a city were a whole manner of scary things can happen you can think it's a bit creepy. I would say get over it, get the sentiment at the end of the video and let good nature get the better of you rather than some other sinister thoughts...
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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:32 pm

It is slightly weird, but I honestly don't see what the big deal is. It's not like it suddenly makes me want to avoid flying Qatar. If anything, even though such an encounter would be weird, I at least appreciate the spirit of the ad and what they were trying to go for.
 
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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:49 pm

Quoting eaa3 (Thread starter):
What do you guy´s think.
Quoting VARIG MD-11 (Reply 2):

That's creepy in North America where contacts between people are seen as inappropriate or rude or sex-driven or all in one.

        

Quoting eaa3 (Reply 5):

I don´t think it´s a North American thing. Contact is fine.

The heck it is. If you're a guy and so much as look at a young girl you're pretty much automatically considered a pedophile. I was checking out at the supermarket once and this about 6 year old girl was looking at me (i guess she found me interesting since I was in my pilot uniform) she smiled at me, and I smiled back in a completely non-perverted and innocent way. Her dad noticed and gave me this "im going to chop your balls off" look and held her real close. I damn near confronted him, but figured that wouldn't end well. And I'm anything but shady looking.

So while I think you are grossly overreacting, I see where you are coming from, this is a common theme in this country, and I'm not just talking about personal experience. There's so much paranaoia and the political correctness movement is going too far.

Quoting eaa3 (Reply 10):

No worries. But you don´t offer to pick up a random kid in Times square

It's just a commercial, for pete's sake!!!         
 
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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:28 pm

Quoting eaa3 (Reply 10):
In India I don´t think this would be considered strange. Holding hands is very different in India. A lot of men hold hands while walking around and that has nothing to do with sexuality.

Sorry, but I can't see what you said has to do with what I said.
I didn't see any men holding hands in that part.

I was referring to the SQ girl touching an random boy that she came across. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against for example a flight attendant putting his/her hand on a passengers shoulder as a sympathetic gesture or friends hugging as a form of greeting but I am a bit wary of strangers touching children on the street for no reason. Especially with the song saying "Singapore girl, you're a great way to fly" (vs I'm Maggie, fly me). Additionally, I don't see why would she hand the lady's coat to her if she wasn't going to assist her to put it on. The whole ad seems very contrived.

At least the QR flight attendants have purpose in their actions (helping the child see and picking up a rose that dropped).
 
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:30 pm

I was in the gym watching sky news and one of their commercials came on the TV.

It was the one where they start with something like ...'while the smog lingers over London...' etc

Was at the time of the riots.....there was a smog alright.....half the city was on fire.

Tactful I thought.
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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:40 pm

Quoting VARIG MD-11 (Reply 2):
That's creepy in North America where contacts between people are seen as inappropriate or rude or sex-driven or all in one.

Yeah I think people are reading into this too much. First of all was this ad even meant for the US market or other. It is possible something like this would be normal in other countries (I stress possible, I only know so much about the ins and outs of other cultures accepted behavior) If anything else it just touches to the theme of the commericial, they are there to serve and help out, which is what that guy was doing for the boy (also consider the mom might not be physically able to do that, that kid could be 80-100lbs or 35-45kg not to sound sexist but there a lot of women that can not lift that much weight over their head and let it rest of their shoulders). Just having contact with a kid by no means automatically implies sexual conduct.

And I agree with our international friends on this post, America is too dam scared about everything that anything relating to a child and a stranger automatically becomes some sort of pedophile action.

To our international friends, you have not seen half of it how much the US gets worked up over these sorts of things.

I will say I wish we got more airline commercials in Chicago, I know New York and LA get them and a lot of EU and Asia
 
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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:48 pm

I don't see the problem?!
At first I thought that you found the overblown super ego driven branding scheme creepy, but now I see that it's paedophobia on your behalf.

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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:50 pm

Actually I think QR copied SQ Ad, Its mostly the same idea.
 
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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:53 pm

This is certainly one very creepy ad! I know plenty of flight attendants who are lovely in the air, but complete b****** on the ground. So I'm not sure how accurate this really is. :P
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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:56 pm

This should be normal in the US too but, due to the influx of paranoia in every nook and cranny of our society, it's not. It's all about one's individual perception, and experiences, which colors our viewpoint. For example, you witness a man inserting a clothes hanger into a car window ... obviously trying to get the car door lock to open. One observer concludes it is the car's owner who has locked the keys inside the car, while the next person assumes it's a car thief trying to make off with someone else's vehicle.

When I saw the airline's commercial, I saw a nice and thoughtful man providing a boost to a kid who couldn't have seen the show otherwise. It made both their days and it ended with two big smiles.
 
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:59 pm

   inane? yes, unrealistic? yes, cheesy? yes, but creepy? Well, I guess that's your choice, if you really want to see it as creepy, then no doubt you will choose to find it creepy. I can't see it myself.
 
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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:07 pm

Quoting windshear (Reply 19):
I don't see the problem?!
At first I thought that you found the overblown super ego driven branding scheme creepy, but now I see that it's paedophobia on your behalf.

Well people seem to have mixed opinions on this.

Paedophobia means fear of children. I don´t know why that has anything to do with this.

I´m just saying that you generally don´t pick up someone else's child unless you're asked to or there is some good reason to do it. It's got little to do with paranoia. It's just not good manners. A lot of parents wouldn't approve of it. Obviously the mother approved but it's still not something you should do.
 
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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:54 pm

In 2000 I was on a Whale Watching Boat in the Bay of Fundy that left out of Bar Harbour Maine. Cold, Choppy Water, Horrible Fog. Saw almost nothing for over 2 hours. About 200 people on board the boat. Suddenly, we come accross two large Finback Whales off the port side. Everyone rushes to that side of the boat.

I see a handicapped boy (probably 9 years old) in a wheel chair with his mother. He desperately wants to see the whales, but all he sees is everyone's backside. I give the mother a glance and begin to utter the words "Can I help?" But, it´s too loud, people are crowding. She nods, my intentions are understood and her permission is granted.

I lift the child from the seat, command people to make way and we move to the railing with the mother following behind me. (very safe...no...the child is not going to fall overboard!) We have a clear view of the whales and watch them for about 5 minutes. I return the child to the wheel chair. The child smiles and the mother simply says "Thank You".

Creepy? Hardly.

Clearly in the video the Child's mother and the Qatar Airlines employee communicate.

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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:03 pm

I don't see what's creepy. The point is about QR cabin crew going the extra mile and bringing their hospitality to the rest of the world. The guy asks the mother's permission and she's stood next to him, OK, in the west we might be inclined to let them go to the front of the crowd as the crew member wouldn't lift the child (health & safety, lol)!

But I do think the BA ad worked better as it had real cabin crew and real interactions, much more innovative and not so creepy, especially as they were in uniform.
 
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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:08 pm

This is only creepy if you want it to be... personally I saw nothing wrong with this.

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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:08 pm

Quoting 1stfl94 (Reply 26):

BA new ad campaign is much more classier and chic to QR.
 
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:15 pm

Quoting windshear (Reply 19):
I don't see the problem?!
At first I thought that you found the overblown super ego driven branding scheme creepy, but now I see that it's paedophobia on your behalf.

Boaz.

No, it's more than that - we do have a culture of fear, driven by highly publicized cases which do - unforntately - exist. One of today's top news stories around hear is about a murder trial for a guy who abducted and killed a little girl in a nearby small town (I should say "allegedly"...).

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 15):
The heck it is. If you're a guy and so much as look at a young girl you're pretty much automatically considered a pedophile. I was checking out at the supermarket once and this about 6 year old girl was looking at me (i guess she found me interesting since I was in my pilot uniform) she smiled at me, and I smiled back in a completely non-perverted and innocent way. Her dad noticed and gave me this "im going to chop your balls off" look and held her real close. I damn near confronted him, but figured that wouldn't end well. And I'm anything but shady looking.

So while I think you are grossly overreacting, I see where you are coming from, this is a common theme in this country, and I'm not just talking about personal experience. There's so much paranaoia and the political correctness movement is going too far.

It's all about the context. When I am with my small children, I frequently interact with other children, even strangers. For example, addressing a kid (c. 5 yr old) who had run ahead of parents and was about to run out a door and into a crowded area..,. not really dangerous per se, but kids getting away from parents is generally not a good thing (that happened on the weekend). There is a level of comfort because I am obviously a parent.

But when I am not with my kids, it is a very different story. Fly2HMO's account is unfortunately the way it is.
 
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:20 pm

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 15):
The heck it is. If you're a guy and so much as look at a young girl you're pretty much automatically considered a pedophile. I was checking out at the supermarket once and this about 6 year old girl was looking at me (i guess she found me interesting since I was in my pilot uniform) she smiled at me, and I smiled back in a completely non-perverted and innocent way. Her dad noticed and gave me this "im going to chop your balls off" look and held her real close. I damn near confronted him, but figured that wouldn't end well. And I'm anything but shady looking.

Hahaha not surprised at all
I was raised as a latino and we touch each other all the time which can be seen as weird or obscene if you're not from our culture. It's a story of perception and culture I guess.
To give you my example, I can touch and kiss all the girls from the brazilian community at CDG which for us is completely innocent and "normal". On their side they constantly wink at me or pat my arm when we cross, which again, is the way we function without meaning anything "dirty".
The average French colleague witnessing that is just stunned/jealous/puzzled/wonders if I sleep with everyone...

As far as kids are concerned it's the same: we still can talk to or touch a kid without it to be weird and without the father threatening to cut our cojones, as long as the parents supervise the thing it's OK

As a consequence the only place where I feel really cool in the US is MIA...anywhere else I am always controlling what I say and do, for fear a cop shows up for lewd behavior or something

 
Quoting ORDJOE (Reply 18):
And I agree with our international friends on this post, America is too dam scared about everything that anything relating to a child and a stranger automatically becomes some sort of pedophile action.

To our international friends, you have not seen half of it how much the US gets worked up over these sorts of things.

The thing is you were unfortunately more "advanced" with this detestable theme in America than we are.
Probably this is why people in the US are very touchy about it while we still give the good faith benefit to people
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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:22 pm

Quoting VARIG MD-11 (Reply 2):
That's creepy in North America where contacts between people are seen as inappropriate or rude or sex-driven or all in one.
In most other places that's fine....as long as the parents agree on the help you provide.

Pretty much spot on.

Quoting eaa3 (Reply 5):
I don´t think it´s a North American thing.

I do..
 
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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:28 pm

This thread is a surprise. Living in the middle east, I see commercials for QR all the time. This one does not seem like the others. I think gross generalizations about people are ridiculous by the way.

I thought the commercial was strange and ineffective. There is an overload of images and actions, rendering the ad stupid and ineffective.
 
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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:36 pm

Quoting eaa3 (Reply 10):
In India I don´t think this would be considered strange. Holding hands is very different in India. A lot of men hold hands while walking around and that has nothing to do with sexuality.

It's OT, but I always call BS on that claim. You see hand holding among men in societies where there are much stricter rules about male-female contact in public. You seldom see hand holding among straight men in cultures where those taboos aren't in place.
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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:34 am

Creepy? Seriously? I wouldn't even have noticed had someone not mentioned anything. Its almost as bad as some religious sect picking out some random message in the clouds in the background of some Disney movie  
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RE: Creepy Qatar Airways Commercial

Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:32 am

Quoting Fly2HMO (Reply 15):
It's just a commercial, for pete's sake!!!  

I agree. Relax, people. I think it is a good commercial. It illustrates very well that the employees at Qatar Airways are service minded beyond doing their job that they get paid for.

I really don't see the problem.

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