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Bentley Unveils SUV

Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:23 am

At the Geneva Auto Show, Bentley has unveiled their SUV called the EXP 9 F powered by the same W12 found in the Continental. I generally like the idea of a Bentley SUV, hell, most of their cars already have SUV heft to them, so it's not a stretch at all. It isn't clear how much is shared with the Q7/Cayenne/Toureg, but hopefully quite a bit.


Yes, the name sucks and the styling needs work too. Those lower fog lamps need to be about half the size they are now and the small intakes just inboard of the headlights need to go.

The rear styling is very nice, especially with the rear fender lines. I hope the lower fascia with built in ovoid exhausts makes it into production. The roofline is a bit too similar to the Range Rover for my taste, I would have liked something a bit lower and more rounded, more in line with current Bentleys and a bit more like the Spyker D8.

The lowrider wheels don't look so hot, but that could change before this hits production and even if they do not, it's a pretty simple fix.

The four seat interior is the typical exquisite Bentley affair: lots of veneer and quilted upholstery.

Overall I like it. It will be a nice addition to the Bentley lineup and should perform decently, although I expect the weight will be considerable, considering how heavy Bentley's cars are. Just please change the name.

http://jalopnik.com/5890646/bentley-...-9-f-suv-concept-nothing-is-sacred
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RE: Bentley Unveils SUV

Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:25 am

Talk about an SUV no one is asking for.
 
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RE: Bentley Unveils SUV

Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:28 am

Quoting asuflyer05 (Reply 1):
Talk about an SUV no one is asking for.

I'm sure plenty of people are asking for it. Luxury SUVs may not be a growth industry anymore but there's still demand for them, and a company with a small customer base like Bentley probably feels it needs to respond to that to maintain loyalty.
 
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RE: Bentley Unveils SUV

Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:30 am

Quoting asuflyer05 (Reply 1):
Talk about an SUV no one is asking for.

I'd rather have no money than the stupid money to buy one.   
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RE: Bentley Unveils SUV

Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:34 am

It's kind of a projectile vomit situation, but also kind of cool.
 
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RE: Bentley Unveils SUV

Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:05 am

I guess it's for those who think Range Rovers/Land Rovers are too common.....   

This is the replacement for the Hummer for the nouveau riche crowd, although this may have some cache in Beverley Hills or the Hamptons. This will be the must have ride for those entertainers and athletes that are looking for something that stands out in a crowd.
 
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RE: Bentley Unveils SUV

Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:06 am

Quoting asuflyer05 (Reply 1):
Talk about an SUV no one is asking for.

Funny, that's what people said about the Porsche Cayenne.
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RE: Bentley Unveils SUV

Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:12 am

Quoting Jetsgo (Reply 6):
Funny, that's what people said about the Porsche Cayenne

  

Considering the parts bin VAG has at their disposal, there is no reason Bentley's SUV should be anything less than stellar. I would propose calling it the Continental FTR (F*** The Recession).

Anyway nobody needs a Bentley SUV. But want one? Damn right. And that is what life is all about.
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RE: Bentley Unveils SUV

Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:51 am

Oh very nice. I will try to rent one when in Los Angeles.

I have done so with the Continental GT a few times and very good vehicle and ride.
 
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RE: Bentley Unveils SUV

Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:07 am

Bentley has actually created an app for it called the 'EXP Lab' on their Facebook page. You can vote on what you think of its design, as well as the concept of Bentley creating an SUV in general. They are saying its your chance to 'help shape the design of any such Bentley SUV and the future of the company'. Of course I'm sure that opinions gathered on a Facebook page won't heavily influence their decisions.

Do I like it personally? Not really. Bentley needs not to worry about loosing my sale however since if I was buying a SUV of that size I would go for a Range Rover. No Bentley dealers close to me anyway.
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RE: Bentley Unveils SUV

Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:02 am

I don't like it!
I don't like it!

Quoting srbmod (Reply 5):
This will be the must have ride for those entertainers and athletes that are looking for something that stands out in a crowd.

Back in my day, those entertainers and athletes drove exotic cars that had class and style such as the Stutz Blackhawk and the Excalibur.
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RE: Bentley Unveils SUV

Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:09 am

Quoting asuflyer05 (Reply 1):
Talk about an SUV no one is asking for.

  

The EXP9 (does Bentley remember that there was a cheap Ford Escort model called the EXP back in the 1980s?) is very ugly - the proportions are all wrong. It looks like it fell from the top of the ugly tree, and hit every single damn branch on the way to the ground. The Range Rover is much better looking and it's the standard for the ultra-luxury SUV market.
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RE: Bentley Unveils SUV

Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:15 am

Quoting asuflyer05 (Reply 1):
Talk about an SUV no one is asking for.
Quoting Newark727 (Reply 2):
I'm sure plenty of people are asking for it.

Urban music moguls and sports-stars around the world are likely buyers - but the Range Rover (hell, the Escalade) looks better.
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RE: Bentley Unveils SUV

Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:17 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 10):
that had class and style such as the Stutz Blackhawk and the Excalibur.

There isn't much class and style with a rebodied Pontiac. Those things cost nearly as much as a Miura.

Now the Dual-Ghia was a car. Lots of famous names owned one. Lyndon Johnson won his in a poker game...from Ronald Reagan. No revamped Pontiac can say that.
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RE: Bentley Unveils SUV

Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:29 am

Yuck, that looks absolutely horrible. Generally, I quite like large European SUVs but this offering from Bentley is a total eyesore. Give me an Audi Q7/Porsche Cayenne/VW Toureg over that any day. I hope those in charge of exterior styling make some serious modifications. Despite all my complaints, I have to admit that the interior actually looks rather good and its performance should be spectacular (for an SUV).

I wonder if Rolls Royce will ever make an SUV....

Quoting stasisLAX (Reply 11):
The EXP9 (does Bentley remember that there was a cheap Ford Escort model called the EXP back in the 1980s?) is very ugly - the proportions are all wrong. It looks like it fell from the top of the ugly tree, and hit every single damn branch on the way to the ground.

  
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Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:31 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 10):

Back in my day, those entertainers and athletes drove exotic cars that had class and style such as the Stutz Blackhawk and the Excalibur.

Stutz Blackhawk? You're older than I thought...
 
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Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:00 am

When I first saw the pic I thought someone had photoshopped a bentley grille on to a Jeep Patriot for a laugh.

I prefer the looks of the Maserati Kubang, but it, the Bentley and the Cayenne are pretty pointless which will probably make their makers a decent amount of money nonetheless.
 
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RE: Bentley Unveils SUV

Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:08 am

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 13):
There isn't much class and style with a rebodied Pontiac. Those things cost nearly as much as a Miura.

Well, Pontiacs were classy too.   

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 13):
Now the Dual-Ghia was a car. Lots of famous names owned one. Lyndon Johnson won his in a poker game...from Ronald Reagan. No revamped Pontiac can say that.

That is cool. I didn't know that.

Quoting Newark727 (Reply 15):
Stutz Blackhawk? You're older than I thought...

I'm 38. I was just starting high-school when they went out of production.
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RE: Bentley Unveils SUV

Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:14 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):

How can you dismiss the Escalade as gaudy and classless while talking up the Stutz Blackhawk, et. al. which are basically factory made pimpmobiles. You don't have any problem with being gaudy, you just like the 70s.  
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Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:24 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):

I'm 38. I was just starting high-school when they went out of production.

Wait wait, I see now, I was thinking of the 1920s Stutz that I see vintage racing now and again...
 
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Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:43 am

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 18):
How can you dismiss the Escalade as gaudy and classless while talking up the Stutz Blackhawk, et. al.

Trucks are supposed to be plain, industrial, utilitarian vehicles. I don't like the marriage between trucks and luxury. No matter how much you dress up a truck, it will always ride like a truck.
For class and luxury, it has to be a sedan, coupe or convertible.
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Quoting Newark727 (Reply 19):
Wait wait, I see now, I was thinking of the 1920s Stutz that I see vintage racing now and again...

The Stutz came back in 1971 and was in production until 1987.
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Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:24 am

Quoting Kent350787 (Reply 16):
When I first saw the pic I thought someone had photoshopped a bentley grille on to a Jeep Patriot for a laugh.

I think it looks more like a pimped-out London taxi.
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Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:42 am

Quoting TSS (Reply 21):
I think it looks more like a pimped-out London taxi.

My thoughts exactly!
I had respected Rolls Royce for being a holdout in NOT making an SUV like so many other brands.
I think Jaguar is the last luxury brand to understands that 'luxury' can only be in a sedan, coupe or convertible.
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RE: Bentley Unveils SUV

Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:59 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 22):
I had respected Rolls Royce for being a holdout in NOT making an SUV like so many other brands.

The Phantom EWB is 20 feet long and weighs 5900 lbs, which is over 300 lbs. more than an Escalade. With dimensions like that they don't need an SUV.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 22):
I think Jaguar is the last luxury brand to understands that 'luxury' can only be in a sedan, coupe or convertible.

   Jaguar has never had an SUV and likely won't in the future not because of any outdated ideals of style or class but rather because they have been joined at the hip with Land Rover since 2000 and likely will remain so under Tata's ownership for the foreseeable future. If that were not the case, you can bet that Jaguar would offer an SUV like everyone else.
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Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:14 am

Bentley already made a bespoke SUV for the Sultan of Brunei's clan 15+ years ago. This is a computer mockup.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 23):
The Phantom EWB is 20 feet long and weighs 5900 lbs, which is over 300 lbs. more than an Escalade. With dimensions like that they don't need an SUV.

Phantom LWB is a BOSS car. No one can mess with it.
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RE: Bentley Unveils SUV

Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:19 am

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 23):
The Phantom EWB is 20 feet long and weighs 5900 lbs,

Like a proper luxury car should.  
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 23):
which is over 300 lbs. more than an Escalade.

Not concerned about weight. The Escalade is still a dressed up Chevrolet Suburban and rides like a Suburban and 1500 Silvarado. Not luxurious or classy at all.

Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 24):
Phantom LWB is a BOSS car. No one can mess with it.

  
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Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:23 am

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 23):
Jaguar has never had an SUV and likely won't in the future not because of any outdated ideals of style or class but rather because they have been joined at the hip with Land Rover since 2000 and likely will remain so under Tata's ownership for the foreseeable future. If that were not the case, you can bet that Jaguar would offer an SUV like everyone else.

Being part of the same company has its advantages. Jaguar could, using Land Rover's resources, easily create a re-designed and re-badged Range Rover to fit into its own range. Development costs would be minimal, as it would share all the underpinnings as the Range Rover. Additionally it could be manufactured on the same production line and be sold at the same dealers as every other Jaguar or Land Rover. The problem is that it would achieve nothing more than cannibalizing Land Rover/Range Rover sales.
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Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:41 am

Quoting zkojq (Reply 26):
Jaguar could, using Land Rover's resources, easily create a re-designed and re-badged Range Rover to fit into its own range. Development costs would be minimal, as it would share all the underpinnings as the Range Rover.

Let's hope they never do that.
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Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:11 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 25):
Not concerned about weight. The Escalade is still a dressed up Chevrolet Suburban and rides like a Suburban and 1500 Silvarado. Not luxurious or classy at all.

So the problem is that SUVs are too practical? Having a three ton vehicle is okay, but not if it's capable of going offroad with a platoon of infantry? Not that there's anything wrong with the Phantom, it's a perfectly luxurious and monolithic car, but if I'm not going to have the interior space of an SUV, I'd much prefer something more athletic.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 27):
Let's hope they never do that.

They don't need to, that's what Land Rover is for. Check out the Evoque, that's your Jag SUV.
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Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:27 am

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 28):
So the problem is that SUVs are too practical?

No.
SUV/trucks should be rugged, not luxurious.
I've rode in Range Rovers, Navigators, Escalades and M-classes and they all ride like a truck which I don't find luxurious.
Sedans & coupes gives you a much more soft & comfortable ride than a truck.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 28):
Having a three ton vehicle is okay, but not if it's capable of going offroad with a platoon of infantry?

How many Cadillac Escalades are doing that? The Escalade is based on the 1500, not the heavy-duty 3500 with diesel engine. I'm all in favor of heavy-duty, athletic vehicles with off-road some capabilities. My favorite is the Ford Excursion and Ford F-350 with dualleys and Powerstroke diesel. The top trim level with those is the Kings Ranch Edition which is still rugged.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 28):
I'd much prefer something more athletic.

I prefer to be pampered in luxury in a 'luxury' car. I want the feel of a whorehouse on wheels.
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Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:12 am

This "thing" has lines reminiscent of an old-school London cab.
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Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:23 pm

Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 24):
Bentley already made a bespoke SUV for the Sultan of Brunei's clan 15+ years ago. This is a computer mockup.

Its not a computer mockup, its an actual concept car at the Geneva Auto Show.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 22):
I think Jaguar is the last luxury brand to understands that 'luxury' can only be in a sedan, coupe or convertible.
Quoting Superfly (Reply 27):
Let's hope they never do that.

Don't get too comfortable, Jag is rumored to be getting a crossover in the next couple of years. Jaguar officials have been stating that they would like a crossover and want to dramatically expand their line up with "a number of new bodystyles." You can connect the dots from there.
 
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Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:20 pm

Quoting Polot (Reply 31):
Jag is rumored to be getting a crossover in the next couple of years. Jaguar officials have been stating that they would like a crossover and want to dramatically expand their line up with "a number of new bodystyles." You can connect the dots from there.

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RE: Bentley Unveils SUV

Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:58 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 29):
SUV/trucks should be rugged, not luxurious.

Should? Why should they be rugged? Why neglect a market full of GL, ML, Q7, and Range Rover demanders if they want luxurious SUV/trucks. It doesn't make much sense to say that they should be rugged if much less customers would purchase such cars. If you really want to do serious truck jobs, than there are serious trucks to buy such as the G class, the Defender, and the Wrangler.

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Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:05 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 29):
SUV/trucks should be rugged, not luxurious

They can be both.

Quoting Polot (Reply 31):
Don't get too comfortable, Jag is rumored to be getting a crossover in the next couple of years.

They've already been seen testing an XF wagon.
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RE: Bentley Unveils SUV

Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:10 pm

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 34):
They've already been seen testing an XF wagon

Not just testing either, it's been officially released:

http://www.autoweek.nl/autonieuws/18...sportbrake-verstand-komt-met-jaren



And speaking of new Jaguars, this one is coming to a showroom near you as well!

http://www.autoweek.nl/autonieuws/18858/jaguar-c-x16-komt
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Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:56 pm

Quoting TSS (Reply 21):
I think it looks more like a pimped-out London taxi.

OK, who left the Porsche Cayenne and the Bentley Continental alone in the bedroom WITHOUT protection?

The Bentley EXP9 is the result.   
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:09 am

I am a big Bentley fan, but this SUV sucks. SUVs are rubbish anyway if you drive mostly in or around the city, as most of the target group will mostly do. What is the sense of a car, from its concept built for offroad purposes, but carrying a 10.000$ paintjob and rims which would be damaged once you are in rough terrain? And with an interior which would be ruined once you are forced to leave the car in seriously dirty surroundings? So its for show-off only, awful if you ask me. The styling is rather bad anyway, not worthy to carry the Flying B.

They should leave the ill-advised fashion SUV to the creti and pleti brands. If anything is missing in the Bentley range, its an entry model, kind of Continental "light" with a relatively economical engine with 350 hp max. for less than 150k Euros, and a cool estate car.
 
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:22 am

The interior is stunning, the exterior looks a bit like the Imperial Concept Chrysler showed a few years ago.

http://www.sportcarwallpaper.us/wp-content/gallery/chrysler-imperial/chrysler-imperial-8.jpg
 
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:21 am

I wonder if VAG/Bentley has considered this vehicle for the growing need in many countries by the tiny number of super rich for a more literally tank like vehicle for their safety. Vehicles like this would allow better operations to protect the super rich in places with poor roads, an ability to go off-road if have to escape, an ability to load on a lot of protective materials to resist small arms and small bombs. From an article in the current Car and Driver, it notes that China, the fastest growing car market in the world, may set limits based on the size and poor fuel mileage that may cut off importation of such vehicles from their market or for use in cities in the near future.

I think it is just too much vehicle for too few and just a symbol of the stupid excesses of the super rich and offensive to the 99% of the world.
 
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:49 am

SUV's are a part of our daily lives.... we are living in the new millennium... why do people still have a problem when these "specialty" car manufacturer explore new markets? and appeal to more people?

Design/looks is a different story   but why can't they explore something else ?

If I am on the market for an SUV, why can't I look at a Porsche, Bentley, RR, Aston Martin...? When they build one and fits the bill?

Is it image?

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Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:51 am

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 39):
I think it is just too much vehicle for too few and just a symbol of the stupid excesses of the super rich and offensive to the 99% of the world.

They are planning on selling 7000 per year, there are many who will buy one, as they say most existing Bentley owners also have a Range Rover, Cayenne or something similar in the garage, the market is there, they will sell by the truckload. Cities like Moscow will be covered in them within 2 years of launch.
 
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RE: Bentley Unveils SUV

Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:09 am

Quoting swissy (Reply 40):
Design/looks is a different story but why can't they explore something else ?

Your wish is Bentley's command, it seems. Bentley realizes that the styling of the EXP9 is rather, ummm, love it or hate it, and is now planning to preview another, differently styled version to the public at an upcoming auto show. So if the next SUV is as controversial as the current EXP9 concept vehicle, perhaps Bentley won't build the SUV model at all

Source: http://www.leftlanenews.com/bentley-...ng-on-redesigning-exp-9-f-suv.html
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RE: Bentley Unveils SUV

Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:07 am

Quoting Polot (Reply 31):
Its not a computer mockup, its an actual concept car at the Geneva Auto Show.

Hmm ok. I feel kinda hmm about it. It's ok, but that's all.
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Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:27 pm

Quoting Jetsgo (Reply 6):
Quoting asuflyer05 (Reply 1):
Talk about an SUV no one is asking for.

Funny, that's what people said about the Porsche Cayenne.

That still don't make it right.   
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Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:30 pm

Quoting PC12Fan (Reply 44):

Quoting Jetsgo (Reply 6):
Quoting asuflyer05 (Reply 1):
Talk about an SUV no one is asking for.

Funny, that's what people said about the Porsche Cayenne.

That still don't make it right.

I guess we could make a new topic about right/wrong   and it would easy be the longest in history  

Aston will do well with a good looking SUV...(JC from TG will disagree on that) heck I even like their CYGNET... why not. Good for them pushing into new markets!!!

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Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:50 pm

Quoting swissy (Reply 45):
I guess we could make a new topic about right/wrong and it would easy be the longest in history

It would be titled "The Never Ending Thread".  
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Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:12 pm

Quoting PC12Fan (Reply 46):
It would be titled "The Never Ending Thread".  

        

And the world beer consumption would increase to levels never thought be possible!!!  

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Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:39 am

This is going to be interesting, a Bentley SUV will be something new to look forward to, in the future.
 
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RE: Bentley Unveils SUV

Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:43 pm

Quoting swissy (Reply 40):

SUV's are a part of our daily lives.... we are living in the new millennium... why do people still have a problem when these "specialty" car manufacturer explore new markets? and appeal to more people?

SUVs have been pressed into the market, because manufacturers make more money per car. Okay, given, you cannot press something into the market thats no wanted. But still, its like a fashion in clothing: if you tell often and loud enough, clumsy plateau shoes and wide shoulders are cool, people will buy them (and later laugh at them, when the fashion is over). SUVs are bad for the environment (more metal, more weight, more fuel wasted), do not drive as well as standard sedans or wagons, and mostly are not far from uglyness. Also they are a visual obstacle for standard cars driving behind or parking next to them, their lights are higher up and blinding others, and so on. I feel also more SUV driver behaving bullish in traffic, using their cars size and aggressive looks to force others. Thats why I will continue to lobby against them.

And this Bentley prototype, which btw got more bad press in the past days than any Bentley before, is a particularly tasteless example how to spend a lot of money the wrong way. I am sure, if they make the design better it´ll sell, but if Russian mafioso and other similarly slick clientele attracted by such a car will better Bentley´s good image, I am am very doubtful.

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