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Payton Manning To Be Released By Colts

Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:52 am

Apparently as of Wednesday, long time star QB of the Indianapolis Colts will be released.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/76...olts-part-peyton-manning-wednesday

Unable to play all of last year, with serious problems with his neck, maybe not able to play at the level he would need, owed something like $28 Million if he continued, the need for cap room dumping him to get the 20 other players they need and with the 1st pick in the draft, all led to this not surprising decision.

One has to wonder with the growing knowledge of the New Orleans 'bounty' scandal, the number of hard hits Payton took and the fear that one more hit could cripple him has added to the Colt's decision.

Still it is a sad day. One has to wonder if he will go to another team, desperate for a QB they would take the risk on him or if he will just go off into retirement. It will be interesting to see what happens in the next several months.
 
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RE: Payton Manning To Be Released By Colts

Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:30 am

Quoting ltbewr (Thread starter):
One has to wonder with the growing knowledge of the New Orleans 'bounty' scandal, the number of hard hits Payton took and the fear that one more hit could cripple him has added to the Colt's decision.

No. The reason he is being released is that he is 35 and Andrew Luck is as good a QB prospect as we've seen in the last few years.

Quoting ltbewr (Thread starter):
One has to wonder if he will go to another team,

If he wants to he will have that chance. You're talking about a league where some truly awful quarterbacks have made it onto the field.
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:32 am

Quoting ltbewr (Thread starter):
One has to wonder with the growing knowledge of the New Orleans 'bounty' scandal, the number of hard hits Payton took and the fear that one more hit could cripple him has added to the Colt's decision.

There's almost no connection between these two things.


But yes, say hello to Washington Redskins quarterback Peyton Manning.
 
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:37 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 2):
But yes, say hello to Washington Redskins quarterback Peyton Manning.

He's on the downside of his career, but he won't have to resort to dealing with Dan Snyder just yet.

Quoting D L X (Reply 2):
There's almost no connection between these two things.

There is absolutely no connection. Defensive players do not need bounties to go try and beat the snot out of opposing QBs. Frankly, I'd be kind of surprised if there weren't at least several other teams with bounty programs of some sort and furthermore, I feel rather hypocritical issuing strong condemnations of the practice.
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:40 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 2):
But yes, say hello to Washington Redskins quarterback Peyton Manning.

I think you meant to say Arizona Cardinals QB Peyton Manning.  
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:55 am

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 1):
No. The reason he is being released is that he is 35 and Andrew Luck is as good a QB prospect as we've seen in the last few years.

Have you seen Robert Griffin III play yet? I've seen Luck and RG3 play and he could be one of the best players at that position in years. Remember the year Payton came out there was this guy from Washington State Ryan Leaf that was the best prospect in years as well.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 1):
If he wants to he will have that chance. You're talking about a league where some truly awful quarterbacks have made it onto the field.

I think Manning will find a place to play too. Kurt Warner came from nowhere to take Arizona to the playoffs a couple years ago in his mid-late 30's.
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RE: Payton Manning To Be Released By Colts

Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:06 am

The Colts need a QB they can rely on, they're one of my favourite teams but last year was just depressing, when the entire team falls apart without the QB, hopefully they can get some good players with the money they save from Manning

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 3):
Frankly, I'd be kind of surprised if there weren't at least several other teams with bounty programs of some sort and furthermore, I feel rather hypocritical issuing strong condemnations of the practice.

Its hard to condemn teams for rewarding players for big hits to the point of injury when the whole reason many watch the sport is for the big hits.

I was somewhat surprised to learn through this that players aren't allowed to be given bonuses for fumbles and interceptions. Is it only that offensive players can be rewarded for touchdowns and yards but when a defensive player does their job well they can't be rewarded.
 
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:09 am

OK everyone.....it's Peyton, not Payton.

Indianapolis needs to rebuild, Releasing Peyton has to be a part of that plan, especially considering his age, salary cap and the issues surrounding talent and coaching in Indianapolis. I sincerely beleive through that he will play next year, and play well for whatever team goes after him. I think Washington has the most cash and reason to go after him, but Arizona and Miami have a great field of recievers that Peyton could dominate with.

It's a shame for the fans in Indianapolis that things went the way that they did, as i truly wish that Peyton could finish where he started, but this Indianapolis orgaization is no loinger any semblence of what it once was.
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:13 am

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 5):
I think Manning will find a place to play too. Kurt Warner came from nowhere to take Arizona to the playoffs a couple years ago in his mid-late 30's.

The Arizona Cardinals will gladly take Manning! Reports say they're among the top, if not THE top place for him to land:

- New indoor facility
- Willingness to pay him
- 1,000 yard RB
- Larry Fitzgerald wants him

Thing is, the Cardinals have to exercise their option on Kolb by March 17th, so there's a limited window of opportunity here.
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:30 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 8):
The Arizona Cardinals will gladly take Manning! Reports say they're among the top, if not THE top place for him to land:

I hope so. Coming from the midwest I can't stand the Seahawks. He's been consistent the entire time he's been in the league. If he's healthy enough to play, I hope wherever he lands there's an OC that gives him a long leash like he used to have in Indy to call his own plays.
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:08 am

I think this is the sad state of Pro sports, that when it comes down to it, Football is just a business, and there is no loyalty to a player that put a franchise back on the map. Face it, Indianapolis would probably not have hosted a Super Bowl, if it were not for Manning, although I could be wrong? It is sad how quickly fans forget what a player has done for their city and team. I have no doubts that Manning would have stayed with the Colts until the end, had they wanted him. I wish him the best of luck wherever he goes, and hope they beat the crap out of the Colts, eveytime they play them.
 
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:20 am

Quoting Mudboy (Reply 10):
It is sad how quickly fans forget what a player has done for their city and team.

Manning has plenty of loyalty and appreciation sitting in various bank accounts. This isn't a one way street, but it doesn't really matter. Business is business.

Quoting Mudboy (Reply 10):
I have no doubts that Manning would have stayed with the Colts until the end, had they wanted him.

Tell him he gets to hold a clipboard for Luck and see how happy he is with that. This really is the best for everyone involved.

The team cannot put their future on hold for some fairy tale ending to Manning's career, and even that would be unlikely since they need to be revamped at other positions as well. More likely Manning would have just been the most visible piece of a team slowly but surely fading away trying to take one last shot at winning. That would have been an ending more sad than this one. The team needs to focus on the future and do what they need to do in order to get back to where they were, and it's likely that Manning will not be capable of taking them there by the time the rest of the team gets rebuilt. Manning gets to go somewhere where presumably he will have a real shot at winning, and the Colts get to move on.

And one more thing: why are the Colts of all teams the one expected to value "loyalty" over business and winning?
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:30 am

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 11):
Manning has plenty of loyalty and appreciation sitting in various bank accounts. This isn't a one way street, but it doesn't really matter. Business is business.

I hate to tell you this, but the Colts were Manning, and without him, they are the Cleveland Browns or some other small market team. Manning made the Colts what they are and everything they had, what were they before him, and what were they without him this year? Manning deserves every penny he made for that team. How many #1 Draft pics have flopped, since Manning was one, only time will tell, if they made the right decision? My Uncle lives in Indy, and I remember him telling me that before Manning, they could not give away season tickets, welcome back to that Indy fans, and I happen to be one. I am taking my loyalty to wherever Manning signs, screw the Colts.
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:51 am

Quoting Mudboy (Reply 12):
I hate to tell you this, but the Colts were Manning,

And in the future they will be Andrew Luck. That's the goal. The days of the Manning Colts were coming to an end regardless; the injury, horrendous season, and subsequent top draft pick have given the Colts a golden opportunity. In the NFL to compete you need a franchise quarterback and the Colts have the chance to jump from one to the next. Manning's days as an elite quarterback were quickly coming to an end, injury or no injury.

Quoting Mudboy (Reply 12):
they are the Cleveland Browns or some other small market team.

   With the salary cap and subsequent parity, that argument doesn't work so well for the NFL as other leagues. Green Bay, New Orleans, and Pittsburgh don't seem to have much trouble competing. The correlation is not market size, it's having a top quarterback and quality management.

Quoting Mudboy (Reply 12):
Manning made the Colts what they are and everything they had, what were they before him, and what were they without him this year?

What would they be if they keep Manning with that aging roster for another two or three years? Right in the blob of NFL mediocrity without a young quarterback.

Quoting Mudboy (Reply 12):
My Uncle lives in Indy, and I remember him telling me that before Manning, they could not give away season tickets,

How easily do you think he could move tickets in 2015 with a Manning-less Colts team that didn't have an heir either? (There was no way they'd have played out his current deal without it becoming an albatross)
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:54 am

Quoting Mudboy (Reply 12):
I hate to tell you this, but the Colts were Manning, and without him...

...they may still be phenomenally successful.

Or not.

Time will tell.
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:55 am

I wonder if Denver or Kansas City will make a move for him. I wouldn't mind him being in our division; he's an interception machine when he plays against San Diego. 
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:10 am

Quoting Mudboy (Reply 10):
there is no loyalty to a player that put a franchise back on the map.

That is true. Shaun Alexander is a great example of this, and dissed the Seahawks after the franchise tag. I think franchise tags are stupid.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 1):
Andrew Luck is as good a QB prospect as we've seen in the last few years.

There is no guarantee that Luck will be a Colt. The folks in Indy may be looking at someone else... You never know.... Stranger things have happened.
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:29 pm

Payton or Peyton he's not needed with the Colts anymore. Move on and finish your HOF career elsewhere. My pick for his new home is the Jets and my darkhorse outside chance is the Titans.
 
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:05 pm

Quoting ltbewr (Thread starter):
all led to this not surprising decision

If it weren't suprising, we wouldn't be discussing it.

Quoting ltbewr (Thread starter):
One has to wonder with the growing knowledge of the New Orleans 'bounty' scandal, the number of hard hits Payton took and the fear that one more hit could cripple him has added to the Colt's decision.

I wouldn't have pulled the bounty scandal into it per se, but they must know a lot about his medical condition and surely watching a paralyzed Peyton being carted off would put the Colts fans into mass depression. Even if not paralyzed, we've seen what the Colts are like without him, and it's not pretty.

Quoting ltbewr (Thread starter):
Still it is a sad day. One has to wonder if he will go to another team, desperate for a QB they would take the risk on him or if he will just go off into retirement. It will be interesting to see what happens in the next several months.

Agreed. He's got enough money in the bank to say to heck with it. If he's PO'd about how he's being treated, he can start law suits against the NFL, the Saints from Benson on down, and Williams personally. Certainly the Saints organization failed at preventing its employees from breaking NFL rules. Add in a few other injured players, get a class action going, use conspiracy theory to link in the NFL, and Peyton can have a nice after-career hobby: suing the NFL.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 1):
No. The reason he is being released is that he is 35 and Andrew Luck is as good a QB prospect as we've seen in the last few years.

Key word there being "prospect". It's not like when the Pats kicked Bledsoe to the curb after seeing what Brady could do in the big games. They are taking a big risk, but I have to agree it's the right thing for the francise to do.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 1):
If he wants to he will have that chance. You're talking about a league where some truly awful quarterbacks have made it onto the field.

Bledsoe went to Buffalo and Dallas and never got it done.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 3):
There is absolutely no connection. Defensive players do not need bounties to go try and beat the snot out of opposing QBs.

Sure, they do not need them, but they sure do provide both financial incentive (yes, a football player still can get his jollies for $1k) and the recognition of his peers, so they are a big issue.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 3):
Frankly, I'd be kind of surprised if there weren't at least several other teams with bounty programs of some sort and furthermore, I feel rather hypocritical issuing strong condemnations of the practice.

I agree others do it. These are just the ones who got caught, and they will be made an example of. That too is business.

Quoting Mudboy (Reply 10):
Football is just a business, and there is no loyalty to a player that put a franchise back on the map. Face it, Indianapolis would probably not have hosted a Super Bowl, if it were not for Manning, although I could be wrong?
Quoting Mudboy (Reply 12):
I hate to tell you this, but the Colts were Manning, and without him, they are the Cleveland Browns or some other small market team.

Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, Edgerin James, and many many others show that getting Manning was not a fluke. The Colts have done well at picking talent. The Browns absolutely have not.

You should look at it the other way: Why do Cleveland and Cincy suck so bad year after year? Why does Green Bay show up in the playoffs so often? It's not about the market size.
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:46 pm

Quoting fxramper (Reply 17):
My pick for his new home is the Jets

Don't want him - we've already got a decent quarterback, and those don't grow on trees. Not worth giving up on Sanchez just so that we might get the vintage Peyton (which there's no proof of, and even if he is 100% to start the season, there's no proof he'll be at 100% at the end).

Go to Arizona, Peyton. Or Washington. Don't go to Miami.

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Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:14 pm

It's better to release a player one year too early than one year too late.

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Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:40 pm

It'll be interesting to see if Peyton doesn't retire, how well will he fit in to whatever new system he finds himself in.

He's been very much a system quarterback his entire career.

He's going to have to find a team that can adapt to him, or at least meet him half way.

It'll be interesting to see if his competitive urges as well as the cash overcome the natural urge to not want to go somewhere else, learn a new system (or teach his to them), and risk that one (bounty-induced or otherwise) shot that might put him into a wheelchair for life.
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:50 pm

After going through my second cervical discectomy last year I think it is intelligent for him to take a hard look at any additional risk his neck presents - especially for the long term future.

Obviously the guy has sufficient funds and retiring probably isn't going to impact his way of life.

Just as obvious the guy loves playing the game.

That brings up some difficult choices and I'll simply wish him the best and will wait for his decision.
 
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:22 pm

Quoting Revelation (Reply 18):
It's not like when the Pats kicked Bledsoe to the curb after seeing what Brady could do in the big games.

Brady was also a seventh round pick. There is more reason to be optimistic about Luck than there was right when Brady showed up. Furthermore, the Pats had everything else in place so the "win now" mentality made more sense. The Colts, on the other hand, have to revamp most of their roster and by the time they do that Manning will be all but finished. Manning would be a nice pickup for a team that's missing only a QB (like Houston or San Francisco) but keeping him made no sense for Indy.

Quoting Revelation (Reply 18):
I have to agree it's the right thing for the francise to do.

Of course it is. You can maybe disagree with how they did it, but you have to be football stupid to say that this is the wrong move for the team.
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:45 pm

Quoting Revelation (Reply 18):
Bledsoe went to Buffalo and Dallas and never got it done.

Could we add Matt Leinart to the list? I fear that Jake Locker might end up on this list as well......

Quoting Mir (Reply 19):
Go to Arizona, Peyton. Or Washington. Don't go to Miami.

I hope he does not go to Seattle! Seattle doesn't need him.
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:36 pm

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 24):
Could we add Matt Leinart to the list? I fear that Jake Locker might end up on this list as well......

Mark Sanchez gets one more bite at the (big?) apple before he gets put on the list, IMHO.
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:53 pm

The Jets aren't getting him; that rumor won't die only because ESPN executives keep furiously applying the defibrillator to it.

The best candidates are Miami, Washington, and Arizona. I think Arizona offers the most compelling option for the reasons I've outlined previously, not to mention the fact that the NFC West is a lousy division and ripe for the taking.
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:26 pm

Quoting Revelation (Reply 25):
Mark Sanchez gets one more bite at the (big?) apple before he gets put on the list, IMHO.

Guy's had more good years than bad years. This past season wasn't entirely his fault, too - the failings of the 2011 Jets are many, and well chronicled. Will he ever be as good as Peyton? I'd say almost certainly not. But he's not a bad quarterback.

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Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:03 pm

Quoting Mir (Reply 27):
Will he ever be as good as Peyton?

There's a pretty good chance he will never even be as good as Eli.
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:21 pm

Quoting Mir (Reply 27):
But he's not a bad quarterback.

I'm willing to go that far. His big problem this year is that he's in the middle of all that turmoil, and if the Jets don't turn it around, chances are he'll take a lot of the blame, which is unfair, but that's life in the Big Apple. This is year 4 of his 5 year rookie contract, so at the end of the year the Jets have to sign him or deal with him playing a lame duck season, then let him go to FA or tag him.

Interesting article: Jets seem split over whether to go after Manning
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:35 pm

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 28):
There's a pretty good chance he will never even be as good as Eli.

He was better than Eli until he missed all of last season. I think this is now the downhill for Peyton. If I were Peyton, I would retire to keep my dignity intact.

Now it is Eli's turn to shine.
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:43 pm

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 30):
I think this is now the downhill for Peyton. If I were Peyton, I would retire to keep my dignity intact.

I imagine so, but it seems that isn't the way athletes think. They don't want to leave any earlier then they have to. Look at Brett Farve going to NYJ for two(?) years and then MIN for, what, another two years?

Of course, the real twist for Peyton is the bad back thing. Personally, I think I'd retire instead of taking any chances, but we don't have any idea how the man thinks.
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Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:44 am

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 30):
He was better than Eli until he missed all of last season. I think this is now the downhill for Peyton. If I were Peyton, I would retire to keep my dignity intact.

I was talking about Sanchez, who is basically a taller Rex Grossman.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 30):
Now it is Eli's turn to shine.

...well flicker a bit anyway.
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Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:22 am

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 28):
There's a pretty good chance he will never even be as good as Eli.

Eli was almost ridden out of town before he won the first Super Bowl. It takes time for young quarterbacks to develop. And let's face it - half of Sanchez's problem was that he had an offensive line that was porous at best. You're going to have a lot of rushed throws and resulting incompletions and interceptions when you've constantly under pressure.

Quoting Revelation (Reply 31):
Look at Brett Farve going to NYJ for two(?) years

One year, and the disaster that resulted is just one of the reasons why the Jets should be very careful about signing Manning.

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Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:21 am

Quoting Mir (Reply 33):
he disaster that resulted is just one of the reasons why the Jets should be very careful about signing Manning.

And ANY NFL team for that matter.
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Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:25 pm

On the release of Manning the primary thing I take away is the "delusion" that players still seem to live under, that loyalty is somehow still a part of the NFL, even in relation to fellow team mates not just fans and ownership.

Players need to accept that the NFL is a business that will use your body for as long as it is capable and pay you for that use, when the body fails you are history, nothing else matters.

It is a business first and foremost, players just do not seem to catch on to that concept, really not sure why.
Fans in Indy for example will moan if they suffer another loosing season next year, but if their draft pick approaches the performance of Cam Newton I would certainely expect to see signs of Peyton Who in the stands.

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Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:38 pm

Quoting par13del (Reply 35):
Players need to accept that the NFL is a business that will use your body for as long as it is capable and pay you for that use, when the body fails you are history, nothing else matters.

Pretty much like every other job. In jobs requiring physical skills, either you find a way into being a supervisor/manager, or you are out. In knowledge-based jobs, if your skills slide, you are out.

Most NFL players end up with an abused body, but so do most coal miners.

Both are union shops and have a pension program.

The difference is the NFL pay scale rocks, and if you work at it and luck shines on you, you can leave the game with positive name recognition. The smart ones are already planning for life after the NFL right from the start.
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Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:43 pm

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vid...sIllustrated/index.html?xid=cnnbin

Here is a pretty good interview with Peter King of SI.
He thinks Miami is the strongest contendor currently, but as he says. Should Manning's health check pass all these teams muster, there could bd a lot of interest in him.
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RE: Payton Manning To Be Released By Colts

Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:02 pm

I think there is no way that he goes to the Jets or the Redskins. He already has said he would not play in the NFC East because he does not want to take the limelight away from his brother. I think he would not play for the Jets for the same reason.

He previously said that Houston would be one of his top picks to play for because of having an elite wide receiver, elite running back, elite defense. Would be very easy for him to win here. That got all the fans here going crazy, people call into sports radio constantly saying we should go get him. I think it would be a huge mistake for us or anyone with an established quarterback to sign him. While Matt Schaub is no Peyton Manning, you can win with him. Peyton is 35 and probably has only a couple years left. After that, you are back to rebuilding without an elite quarterback and taking your chances in the draft. We also have several other areas to address on the roster and are short on cap space.

My guess is that he ends up in Miami. My darkhorse pick is Jacksonville - Good defense, good running back, lots of cap space.

Quoting Mir (Reply 27):
But he's not a bad quarterback.

a career passer rating of 73 says otherwise.
 
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RE: Payton Manning To Be Released By Colts

Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:12 pm

Quoting corocks (Reply 38):
a career passer rating of 73 says otherwise.

A career of all of three years. Eli wasn't much better (passer rating of 77) after his third season.

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RE: Payton Manning To Be Released By Colts

Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:18 pm

Quoting Mir (Reply 39):
A career of all of three years. Eli wasn't much better (passer rating of 77) after his third season.

You said he was not a bad quarterback. Right now he is a bad quarterback - I am not saying he cannot be good in the future. After three years, no one said that Eli was good either.
 
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RE: Payton Manning To Be Released By Colts

Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:22 pm

Quoting corocks (Reply 40):
You said he was not a bad quarterback. Right now he is a bad quarterback

He took his team to the AFC championship game two years in a row. That's not bad.

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RE: Payton Manning To Be Released By Colts

Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:53 pm

I still question whether Payton will be able to play again. Nothing has been said about his condition, if he can take another hard hit and still be able to walk off of the field.

I heard from a friend that the colts were not allowed to see him even throw the football before they had to make the decision on if to keep him or not, that suggests to me that there may be a health problem.
 
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RE: Payton Manning To Be Released By Colts

Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:58 pm

Quoting starbuk7 (Reply 42):
I heard from a friend that the colts were not allowed to see him even throw the football before they had to make the decision on if to keep him or not, that suggests to me that there may be a health problem.

I think the Colts did the right thing by waiving him. They saw a risk and did not want to continue with Manning with the risk and fear that they have currently.

By the way, who said that the Colts were not allowed to see him even throw a football, etc etc?? Is this a NFL rule?
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RE: Payton Manning To Be Released By Colts

Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:00 pm

Quoting starbuk7 (Reply 42):

I heard from a friend that the colts were not allowed to see him even throw the football before they had to make the decision on if to keep him or not, that suggests to me that there may be a health problem.

I heard similar logic applied to other teams as well - if he knew this was coming (and you have to assume he did), why did he not have workouts with other teams scheduled? It would be to his advantage to sign as early as possible - it would make a big splash, and would be a great incentive for other players, particularly offensive players, to sign with the same team. The fact that he hasn't had sessions with other teams (at least not that we know about) would seem to indicate that there might be lingering health problems that he doesn't want revealed.

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RE: Payton Manning To Be Released By Colts

Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:46 pm

Quoting Mir (Reply 44):
The fact that he hasn't had sessions with other teams (at least not that we know about) would seem to indicate that there might be lingering health problems that he doesn't want revealed.

If I may add: And he may be considering retirement.....
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RE: Payton Manning To Be Released By Colts

Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:26 pm

Quoting JakeOrion (Reply 15):
I wonder if Denver or Kansas City will make a move for him. I wouldn't mind him being in our division; he's an interception machine when he plays against San Diego.



I was going one step further.....next entry

Quoting starbuk7 (Reply 42):
still question whether Payton will be able to play again



I do,too.For the heck of it ,if I we're SAN,I give Payton a long contract for offensive coach position with possibility of head coach if Norv and even if Rivers gets into trouble and put him in.
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RE: Payton Manning To Be Released By Colts

Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:31 am

The new collective bargaining agreement prohibits veterans from working out for teams before the beginning of April. It was an issue since his bonus was due in March.
 
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RE: Payton Manning To Be Released By Colts

Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:52 am

It seems he is going to try to continue to be a star QB. I would suspect he would choose a Florida or Texas team if for any other reason that they don't have an State Income Tax, which could save him millions over a few years as well as warmer in-season weather at home games.
 
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RE: Payton Manning To Be Released By Colts

Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:03 am

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 48):
It seems he is going to try to continue to be a star QB. I would suspect he would choose a Florida or Texas team if for any other reason that they don't have an State Income Tax, which could save him millions over a few years as well as warmer in-season weather at home games.

Good point. I guess the next point would be to pick the team with the better offensive line, so he doesn't end up getting pounded into the ground every other play.
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