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Tsunami Ghost Ship Drifting Near Canada

Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:03 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17500008

I was wondering how long it would take for this to happen.

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The tsunami last March generated more than 25 million tonnes of debris, say researchers at the University of Hawaii. Between four and eight million tonnes were washed into the ocean, with one to two million tonnes still floating on the surface.

The main mass of the debris is not expected to make landfall in North America until March 2014.

Should be interesting to see what kind of mess washes ashore.
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Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:11 pm

why not just sink it ???
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Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:34 pm

Quoting alberchico (Reply 1):
why not just sink it ???

In the old days, that's just what they would have done.

These days, every bit of oil on board has to be removed, and many other "remediation activities" have to occur too.

The good news is the thing will probably bash itself to pieces before all the paperwork needed to do it "the right way" will get done!
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RE: Tsunami Ghost Ship Drifting Near Canada

Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:42 pm

Quoting alberchico (Reply 1):
why not just sink it ???

Agreed, our fighters need the practice, plus we have a lot of missiles that will expire soon.....   
 
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Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:46 pm

Quoting Revelation (Thread starter):
Should be interesting to see what kind of mess washes ashore.

Just keep in mind that some where in that "mess" there will be human remains... May well be some HR on the boat as well...
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Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:56 pm

Would it be possible to lower someone down and start the engines? Then properly sail it in to port?
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Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:05 pm

That surely is a danger to shipping? Imagine if it drifted into a busy shipping lane.

I can imagine the insurance company want it salvaged while the operator wants the insurance money.
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Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:32 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
Would it be possible to lower someone down and start the engines? Then properly sail it in to port?

Exactly. If all hatches were properly closed, it will on the inside probably look like new. A few weeks on a slipway and a new coat of paint and this ship should be workable again.

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Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:37 pm

Quoting alberchico (Reply 1):
why not just sink it ???

Nobody probably knows what sort of nasty things might be onboard.
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Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:45 pm

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 7):
Exactly. If all hatches were properly closed, it will on the inside probably look like new.

Was Charlton Heston the last person qualified to do this? He did something similar mid-air in the movie Airport 75.
It's been out at sea for 1 year. It isn't that long ago and should be fully functional. I wonder how much fuel is in the tanks.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 8):
Nobody probably knows what sort of nasty things might be onboard.

You think a rat colony could survive for a year on an abandon boat?
My guess is that it would have what a typical fishing boat would have when it's docked.
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Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:24 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 8):
Nobody probably knows what sort of nasty things might be onboard.

You think a rat colony could survive for a year on an abandon boat?
My guess is that it would have what a typical fishing boat would have when it's docked.

I would want to wear protective gear (and possibly a gasmask) before entering the galley or the fidh holds.
For the rest it should be ok.

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Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:40 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
Would it be possible to lower someone down and start the engines? Then properly sail it in to port?
Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 10):
I would want to wear protective gear (and possibly a gasmask) before entering the galley or the fidh holds.

There would be a lot of issues to be overcome to get the ship started.

First, if it has indeed been buttoned up tight for a year, you have 'confined space entry' issues - plenty of things in the mechanical spaces that might cause an explosive or unsafe atmosphere (corrosion, fuel/oil, batteries). For that you need a marine chemist to certify that it is even safe to enter. Rotting galley/fish holds/human remains make this even worse.

And that would be the 'ideal' scenario LOL. More likely there has been plenty of salt water contamination down through the vents and inadequately secured or corroding hatches, into the electrical runs etc. Keeping after the normal damage caused by operation in a salt water environment is a full time job for a ship's crew and shoreside support. Drifting unmanned at sea for over a year, it has got to be a mechanical disaster in many respects. Even something as simple as the diesel fuel being contaminated by salt water or abundant bio growth is an issue.

Even if you could get it running, it would not be a safe place for that crew to be...with much of the comms and survival gear likely to be compromised it would be a death trap in a storm.

A far less risky solution to this Flying Dutchman would be to have another ship just tow it in. Not much financial incentive for the owners to do it, but if it becomes a hazard to navigation or approaches shore that is probably what will happen. Sinking would be the cheaper choice but as already has been mentioned the environmental issues would prevent it.

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 7):
Exactly. If all hatches were properly closed, it will on the inside probably look like new. A few weeks on a slipway and a new coat of paint and this ship should be workable again.

Jan

Jan;

I normally agree with what you write, but I'm more pessimistic about this, having gone through about 8 major shipyard periods with vessels that were continuously and meticulously maintained. Looking at the rust etc. on the topside of this ship I'm thinking that much of its equipment is trashed - constant exposure to the salt with no lubrication/maintenance will seize these things up pretty quickly. At the very least, all of the working gear topside will have to be overhauled, all the interior tanks/bilges opened, inspected and cleaned, and a fair amount of the electronics/electrical equipment replaced. Could be several months' work depending on how bad it is.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
You think a rat colony could survive for a year on an abandon boat?

Wouldn't surprise me...they might all die out but not before chewing the hell out of everything first!

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Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:40 pm

Wow, this reminds me of the second Carach Angren album: "Death Came Through a Phantom Ship"

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Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:58 pm

Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 4):
Just keep in mind that some where in that "mess" there will be human remains... May well be some HR on the boat as well...

My presumption was that a year in salt water would break down any HR in the water, but I really hadn't considered that there might have been people on-board, which is indeed a possibility. If the ship made it out to sea in-tact I would have thought any people on board probably would have survived the tsunami and could have done something to save themselves or signal others, but you never know.
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Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:50 pm

Quoting babybus (Reply 6):
That surely is a danger to shipping? Imagine if it drifted into a busy shipping lane.

I can imagine the insurance company want it salvaged while the operator wants the insurance money.

From what I understand a shipping advisory has been issued.
Also the owners have been found so likely either insurance will quickly take care if it so these no additional financial liability is possible (I am sure if it does damage to anything they would still be liable). Or some some enterprising salvage ship will take ownership of it under the "law of the sea" (though I don't know how it really works).

I am certain it will not be allowed to founder now that it is "known".

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Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:08 pm

Quoting Powerslide (Reply 3):
Agreed, our fighters need the practice, plus we have a lot of missiles that will expire soon.....

What, we got more then one fighter???  Wow! LOL

Why not tow it and recycle it the proper way...

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Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:42 pm

It probably isn't the only one out there from the earthquake.

A few years ago a squid boat was abandoned by its crew because of an on-board emergency. I think it was six months later when it was found washed up on a beach here in Alaska.

The US govt went back the the owners for salvage/clean-up costs for the boat. In addition to the POL on board there was also several ten-thousand pounds of rotting squid on board her.

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Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:30 am

Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 4):
Just keep in mind that some where in that "mess" there will be human remains... May well be some HR on the boat as well...

Probably not. The vessel is afloat, from which we can conclude that there was minimal to no damage sustained during the tsunami (which was just a big wave, as far as the boat is concerned). If there were crew aboard, they could have either radioed for help or piloted her back to shore. The tsunami itself would not have damaged the vessel, which is designed to handle bigger waves than that. Damage to ships occurred from being smashed into various obstacles or being washed ashore. The fact that this one floated out to sea suggests that it was probably perfectly serviceable in the immediate period after the waves hit.

Quoting SmittyOne (Reply 11):
I normally agree with what you write, but I'm more pessimistic about this, having gone through about 8 major shipyard periods with vessels that were continuously and meticulously maintained. Looking at the rust etc. on the topside of this ship I'm thinking that much of its equipment is trashed - constant exposure to the salt with no lubrication/maintenance will seize these things up pretty quickly. At the very least, all of the working gear topside will have to be overhauled, all the interior tanks/bilges opened, inspected and cleaned, and a fair amount of the electronics/electrical equipment replaced. Could be several months' work depending on how bad it is.

That said, Knock Nevis got firebombed and was returned to service. Other ships have taken some serious damage and been returned to service. In the end, like anything else, it will be cost of repair vs. cost of replacement, assuming the owner is still alive.

Quoting Revelation (Reply 13):
My presumption was that a year in salt water would break down any HR in the water,

There would be nothing left after a year. Various marine critters both large and small would have disposed of it.
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Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:54 am

Quoting Revelation (Reply 2):
The good news is the thing will probably bash itself to pieces before all the paperwork needed to do it "the right way" will get done!

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Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:44 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 17):

That said, Knock Nevis got firebombed and was returned to service. Other ships have taken some serious damage and been returned to service. In the end, like anything else, it will be cost of repair vs. cost of replacement, assuming the owner is still alive
Knock Nevis was also a 660,000 ton ULCC. Quite a different cost analysis there...
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Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:10 am

Quoting darksnowynight (Reply 19):
Knock Nevis was also a 660,000 ton ULCC. Quite a different cost analysis there...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Leeward

This is a smaller vessel that has had quite a bit of bad luck.
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Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:11 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 17):
That said, Knock Nevis got firebombed and was returned to service. Other ships have taken some serious damage and been returned to service. In the end, like anything else, it will be cost of repair vs. cost of replacement, assuming the owner is still alive.

Roger that Doc...with ships just about anything is possible. Just add money  
 
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Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:48 pm

Quoting Revelation (Reply 2):
The good news is the thing will probably bash itself to pieces before all the paperwork needed to do it "the right way" will get done!

That's the bad news, it would have to make it to some shoreline, get battered and whatever contaminants onboard would then get spilled most likely onto the shore.

Best case here is for some tug boat / salvage ship getting to her before it gets close to a reef or shoreline to get battered, put a line on her, get her to some safe area - even at sea -, conduct an inspection then have the authorities make an informed decision on her disposal. Japan has already provided information on the owner, hopefully they may remember the state of the vessel when it made port and was being prepared for his next voyage.

As for a danger to shipping, it appears to be a metal boat, so those folks who are standing watch watching the radar screens now know they need to actually stand watch and watch the radar screen if anywhere near Canadian waters, we could make it easy for them by letting them know which coast east or west, but........... 
 
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Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:14 pm

That boat looks like it could be repaired and returned to operation as a squid fishing boat.

It should be towed to the nearest port with a dry dock facility and see if it can be repaired. If it can, the previous owner could get a very nice payment for the proceeds from the sale of the repaired boat to a new owner.  
 
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Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:18 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 17):
Probably not. The vessel is afloat, from which we can conclude that there was minimal to no damage sustained during the tsunami (which was just a big wave, as far as the boat is concerned). If there were crew aboard, they could have either radioed for help or piloted her back to shore. The tsunami itself would not have damaged the vessel, which is designed to handle bigger waves than that. Damage to ships occurred from being smashed into various obstacles or being washed ashore. The fact that this one floated out to sea suggests that it was probably perfectly serviceable in the immediate period after the waves hit

Probably not. If it had been at sea when the tsunami struck there would have been a crew aboard and we would not be having this discussion. The boats that were swept out to sea from harbor first had to deal with the inbound wave, being smashed into bridges, etc (remember the pictures?). Then when the tsunami receded they were swept out to sea, again being bashed into things along the way. And you are assuming the boat was "perfectly serviceable" sitting at the dock before the tsunami which is a real stretch.

How many are still missing? 10,000+? No remains? Granted the ones in the water probably won't have much left... but there's a lot of floating debris out there... houses... boats...
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Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:36 pm

Quoting seb146 (Reply 18):
Yeah. Right. Google "New Carissa"

Thanks for your cheery and respectful reply, and please note I used the word "probably".

Quoting par13del (Reply 22):
That's the bad news, it would have to make it to some shoreline, get battered and whatever contaminants onboard would then get spilled most likely onto the shore.

Yes, understood, my point was intended to sarcastically highlight how long it takes to do it the right way, and a hope that letting nature take its course would show that we need to find a way to shorten that process.

Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 24):
If it had been at sea when the tsunami struck there would have been a crew aboard



The article says "No-one is believed to be on board the ship, registered in Hokkaido, Japan.".

That led me to believe it was tied up and uncrewed, and unlike the ships that bashed the highway bridges, made it out to sea more or less undamaged.
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Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:57 pm

Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 24):
Probably not. If it had been at sea when the tsunami struck there would have been a crew aboard and we would not be having this discussion. The boats that were swept out to sea from harbor first had to deal with the inbound wave, being smashed into bridges, etc (remember the pictures?).

If that had happened, it would not be floating. There cannot be serious damage below the waterline because she would have sunk. The worst that could have happened would have been that the rudder or screws would have been bent. The engines would not have been damaged because they are ensconced in a steel hull, so the power would still have worked, even if she were not maneuverable. There would have been a life raft aboard. I guarantee nobody got swept out to sea helpless aboard this particular boat.

Furthermore, she did not get bashed into a bridge or anything else because her masts are all upright and there is no significant visible damage that cannot be attributed to being adrift at sea for a year.
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Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:12 pm

Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 24):
How many are still missing? 10,000+?

The latest information has the number missing down to about 3,000.

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Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:11 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 26):
If that had happened, it would not be floating. There cannot be serious damage below the waterline because she would have sunk. The worst that could have happened would have been that the rudder or screws would have been bent. The engines would not have been damaged because they are ensconced in a steel hull, so the power would still have worked, even if she were not maneuverable. There would have been a life raft aboard. I guarantee nobody got swept out to sea helpless aboard this particular boat.

Furthermore, she did not get bashed into a bridge or anything else because her masts are all upright and there is no significant visible damage that cannot be attributed to being adrift at sea for a year.

You got all that from one pix? Power would still have worked after a year at sea, really? How do you know the power worked BEFORE the tsunami?
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:15 am

This has turn out to be a ship that was being stored at the port for sales when the tsunami attacked, already written off after tsunami took this away. This belongs to nobody. The pre-owner does not have a will to receieve this. Anyone who wants will have it. Your friend does?

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Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:20 am

Quoting SMOLT (Reply 29):
This belongs to nobody.

Wouldn't it belong to the insurer then?
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:35 am

>>BMI727

Roport does not refer to the insurer. It's not likely that the pre-owner contracted insurance for the ship that was not in operation.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:37 am

Quoting SMOLT (Reply 29):
already written off after tsunami took this away.

Plus as you said, it's written off the books, so I'm not sure if the insurer actually wants it after the fact, then.
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:31 am

This is an interesting thread. I have a mild interest in ships but there is a lot I don't know about.
Is one year out at sea that long? They earthquake & tsunami seems like yesterday. I was supposed to attend a planned Airliners.net meet that weekend.
Don't boats commonly sit in harbors unused for over a year without damage?

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 17):
There would be nothing left after a year. Various marine critters both large and small would have disposed of it.

You mean birds?
It would be impossible for sharks & fish to eat human remains on deck of a ship.
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:13 am

Quoting zanl188 (Reply 28):
You got all that from one pix? Power would still have worked after a year at sea, really? How do you know the power worked BEFORE the tsunami?

Calm down, folks, this is supposed to be a casual discussion forum, right?

Quoting SMOLT (Reply 29):
This has turn out to be a ship that was being stored at the port for sales when the tsunami attacked

Thanks for the information.

Any idea if anyone was aboard the ship when the tsunami hit?

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 32):
Plus as you said, it's written off the books, so I'm not sure if the insurer actually wants it after the fact, then.

As far as I can tell, no one wants it, but someone may be liable for salvage costs.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 33):
Don't boats commonly sit in harbors unused for over a year without damage?

They need to be prepared for such a thing, but since this boat was not in operation yet, chances are it was in a long term storage state.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 33):
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 17):
There would be nothing left after a year. Various marine critters both large and small would have disposed of it.

You mean birds?
It would be impossible for sharks & fish to eat human remains on deck of a ship.

Doc was referring to remains that were in the water as a part of the main debris field still heading toward Canada.

Now that we know the ship did not have an owner, chances are high that it was unmanned at the time of the tsunami, unless a salesman or potential owner or repairman happened to be on it when the tsunami hit.
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:38 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 33):
Don't boats commonly sit in harbors unused for over a year without damage?

Sure, but as Revelation mentioned, preparing them properly is important. Usually a lot of work is needed to get them ready to operate again. Hence the two happiest days in a boat owner's life being the day he buys it and the day he sells it LOL.

And there is a huge difference between a harbor and the open sea. An unpowered vessed drifting along will find itself in the 'trough' of large waves, rolling severely and taking green water over the decks. Regardless of how well buttoned up it is, that salt eventually gets into everything and wreaks havoc. Likewise you typically have hull fittings/sea chests etc. below the waterline that don't stay watertight forever without maintenance.

So depending on its condition before the tsunami, storage preparations and 'luck' there's no guarantee a derelict would even last a year on the open Pacific. Had a typhoon/hurricane passed over, I doubt it would have stayed afloat. But stranger things have happened.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:51 pm

Quoting Revelation (Reply 34):
As far as I can tell, no one wants it, but someone may be liable for salvage costs.

Well someone can pull it outta the water and grab what they can find for some quick recycling cash, eh?           
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:25 pm

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 36):
Well someone can pull it outta the water and grab what they can find for some quick recycling cash, eh?

If it were near the US coast and it had copper pipes on it, there would be a swarm of boats heading out there to hack out the pipes! 

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Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:30 pm

Interesting bits on the Law of the Sea - Salvage:

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Low-order salvage occurs where the salvor is exposed to little or no personal risk. Examples of low-order salvage include towing another vessel in calm seas, supplying a vessel with fuel, or pulling a vessel off a sand bar. Salvors performing high order salvage receive substantially greater salvage award than those performing low order salvage.

In order for a claim to be awarded three requirements must be met: The property must be in peril, the services must be rendered voluntarily (no duty to act), and finally the salvage must be successful in whole or in part.

There are several factors that would be considered by a court in establishing the amount of the salvor%u2019s award. Some of these include the difficulty of the operation, the risk involved to the salvor, the value of the property saved, the degree of danger to which the property was exposed, and the potential environmental impacts. It would be a rare case in which the salvage award would be greater than 50 percent of the value of the property salvaged. More commonly, salvage awards amount to 10 percent to 25 percent of the value of the property.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_salvage

So I suspect that right now someone, somewhere is looking to obtaining full legal rights to the ship if anything is going to be done.

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Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:59 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 33):

You mean birds?
It would be impossible for sharks & fish to eat human remains on deck of a ship.

Flying sharks with friggin' LASERS on their heads, dude.  

No, I was talking about HR in the water washed out to sea during the tsunami.
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Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:04 am

Quoting Revelation (Reply 34):
Doc was referring to remains that were in the water as a part of the main debris field still heading toward Canada.
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 39):
Flying sharks with friggin' LASERS on their heads, dude.

No, I was talking about HR in the water washed out to sea during the tsunami.

  

Now I don't need to cancel my boat trip this weekend.
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RE: Tsunami Ghost Ship Drifting Near Canada

Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:35 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 40):
Now I don't need to cancel my boat trip this weekend.

I have three days to genetically engineer flying sharks with lasers, then...

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RE: Tsunami Ghost Ship Drifting Near Canada

Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:58 pm

I figure every creature deserves a warm meal...
 
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RE: Tsunami Ghost Ship Drifting Near Canada

Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:45 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 41):
I have three days to genetically engineer flying sharks with lasers, then...
Quoting SmittyOne (Reply 42):
I figure every creature deserves a warm meal...

  


Would be interesting if this boat floats right in to Vancouver harbor.
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RE: Tsunami Ghost Ship Drifting Near Canada

Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:28 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 43):
Would be interesting if this boat floats right in to Vancouver harbor.

They'd go aboard, find it contained no weed, and cast it back out to sea.     
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RE: Tsunami Ghost Ship Drifting Near Canada

Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:16 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 44):
They'd go aboard, find it contained no weed, and cast it back out to sea.

There's plenty of weed aboard - seaweed!

Meanwhile, the saga continues:

Alaskan coast guard watches as tsunami ghost ship drifts toward U.S. water

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A U.S. coast guard cutter will also head out this week to assess the safety of the vessel, the potential hazards on board and to determine if it should be sunk or towed in for salvage.

I hope the USCG has suitable pyrotechnics aboard to handle the job, should she need to be sunk!
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RE: Tsunami Ghost Ship Drifting Near Canada

Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:59 pm

It looks like the US Coast Guard is firing on the ship so they can sink it. A quoate from the article "Besides clearing a shipping lane, sinking the nearly 200-foot-long vessel provides the Anacapa crew "a great way for them to put their skills to use," Coast Guard spokesman Kip Wadlow told msnbc.com from Juneau, Alaska"

Did they forget all the diesle fuel still on board? What will happen to it after it sinks? And how will the wildlife be affected?

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...unami-ghost-ship-in-bid-to-sink-it
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Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:22 am

Saw a report on the AP saying they're gonna sink it. The fuel will evapourate and dissolve in the water.
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RE: Tsunami Ghost Ship Drifting Near Canada

Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:40 am

Apparently the last thing the derelict ship will ever see is:



Various reports say that USCGC ANACAPA used its 25mm cannon to hole the ship and set her on fire. The wreck is currently on fire and taking on water, but it's not known when she will sink.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...-ghost-ship-in-bid-to-sink-it?lite says the ship was waiting to be scrapped when the tsunami took her out to sea, and that her owner doesn't want her, and another fishing vessel was going to claim salvage rights and tow her away, but the USCG did not feel the fishing boat could do it safely, so it was time for gunnery practice. It also tells us her name is (soon to be was) Ryou-Un Maru.

RIP Ryou-Un Maru!
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RE: Tsunami Ghost Ship Drifting Near Canada

Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:55 am

Quoting Revelation (Reply 48):
Various reports say that USCGC ANACAPA used its 25mm cannon to hole the ship and set her on fire. The wreck is currently on fire and taking on water, but it's not known when she will sink.

I don't know any of the Coasties in Sitka but the ones I knew in other Alaskan towns would be off their rocker excited for live fire practice like this. The local radio station interviewed someone out of CG Station Sitka and they were jazzed to actually shoot at a ship. Hopefully they took some video. Probably the biggest news in Sitka since someone lit a bunch of old tires on fire in the volcano crater outside of town on April Fools Day a couple decades ago.

Not sure it it's true, but they were reporting a Canadian fishing ship claimed salvage rights a day or two ago but wasn't able to get it under tow so the USCG sunk it.
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