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Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:45 am

Spike Lee broadcast what he thought was George Zimmerman's (the man who shot Trayvon Martin) home address, to his 240,000 followers. The tweeted address was originally from another guy, who said "feel free to reach out and touch him" - a clear incitement for someone to attack.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documen...s/spike-lee-zimmerman-tweet-567891

As it happens, the address was wrong. But I see this as nothing less than terrorism. Anyone who sent or forwarded that tweet is guilty of incitement to do someone harm.

What do you think?
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:54 am

The wrong address? Really doesn't matter. Mr. Lee doesn't have a legal duty to ensure his tweets are accurste. Maybe an ethical/moral obligation, but not legal. Has he apologized?

It's a low level form of terrorism. Certainly doesn't rise to the levels we see elsewhere.

As for going to jail...I don't believe it's illegal to publish, what is really, public information. Now, if it can be proved that some harm, emotional or physical (to include property) resulted from the tweet then I'm thinking a civil trial/penalty might be in order.

Of course, the person who acts on the tweet and does the 'harming' should be held criminally liable.
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:06 pm

So the definition of terrorism should now be expanded to include 'mentioning someones address in a broadcast'? Seriously?  
 
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:25 pm

Quoting Wolbo (Reply 2):
So the definition of terrorism should now be expanded to include 'mentioning someones address in a broadcast'? Seriously?

Broadcasting an address to hundreds of thousands of people and effectively saying "go kill him"? How would you like it if it were your address?
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:36 pm

Jail - no - I can't imagine anyone has a law that would apply.

Money - it will definitely cost him several ten of thousands of dollars for his lawyers before any settlement is made which will certainly be in the six to seven figure range. And no insurance is going to cover that.
 
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:39 pm

Quoting Dreadnought (Thread starter):
"feel free to reach out and touch him"

That could also mean a kiss on the check.  


Seriously though, Spike Lee did nothing wrong with advertising his address. People who have been convicted as 'sex offenders' have to register and their address is made public. Some get that conviction for simply urinating in public or grabbing a girl on her butt. That's far less serious than KILLING someone.
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:00 pm

Well now you have this situation:

Elderly couple forced out of home after tweet claims killer of Trayvon Martin lives there

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/28...ves/#ixzz1qONII6KM?test=latestnews

He should have to pay damages to this couple as well. Why are celebrities so stupid.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
I have no sympathy for George Zimmerman.


Basically his tweet was meant for someone to go cause bodily harm to someone else, even if you have your opinions against someone, does not give you the right to incite violence towards them.
 
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:15 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
Seriously though, Spike Lee did nothing wrong with advertising his address. People who have been convicted as 'sex offenders' have to register and their address is made public. Some get that conviction for simply urinating in public or grabbing a girl on her butt. That's far less serious than KILLING someone.
I have no sympathy for George Zimmerman.


However, Has Mr Zimmerman been convicted? NO. Mr Lee did do something wrong, he convicted Mr Zimmerman, passed judgement and sentenced him to, at the minimum, harassement by others. Should he go to jail? I dont think so, but he should be held liable in a civil matter.

People are reacting to this case without knowing the facts. I dont know the facts so I will not comment on the case.

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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:29 pm

Quoting Wolbo (Reply 2):
So the definition of terrorism should now be expanded to include 'mentioning someones address in a broadcast'? Seriously?

ter·ror·ize   /ˈtɛrəˌraɪz/ Show Spelled[ter-uh-rahyz] Show IPA
verb (used with object), -ized, -iz·ing.
1. to fill or overcome with terror.
2. to dominate or coerce by intimidation.
3. to produce widespread fear by acts of violence, as bombings.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorize?s=t

terrorize:
1: to fill with terror or anxiety : scare
2: to coerce by threat or violence
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/terrorize

I think that you can easily make the leap that Mr. Lee's tweet was made with the intent 'to fill' Mr. Zimmerman with fear. Of course, it's not Mr. Zimmerman that got hit, is it?

I'm hoping Mr. Lee gets smacked with a 7 digit civil suit.
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:52 pm

Didn't you same guys argue that Sarah shouldn't get free room and board at Marion Fed . Pen. for telling 61M registered Republicans to shoot the negro President with high powered, scoped rifles?
 
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Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:04 pm

I think that celebrities raising awareness on important issues is a great thing (George Clooney was recently arrested for protesting outside the Sudanese embassy!)...but this is taking it way too far. I saw the tweet a couple hours after it went up because a friend had mentioned it on Facebook and my instinct was to ignore it because Spike Lee is less than a reputable human being. I'd go as far as to say he's recist, and I have no time for people like that.

As for lawsuits, that elderly couple needs to be compensated. This is totally unacceptable and Lee owes them a healthy cheque. I'm not even worried about Zimmerman, whether he is guilty or not, this old couple did nothing.

You think Lee would use his head before he did anything stupid like this considering he's married to a lawyer.  
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:05 pm

Jail? Not just no, but hell no. And I'm not sure how anyone who claims to love the Constitution could truly suggest such a thing.

You might not like Spike Lee and yes his tweet was irresponsible, but it doesn't matter who he is. He never directly threatened anybody nor did he choose for people to intimidate those homeowners. What he said was public information that falls every bit into 1st amendment rights.

Now that doesn't mean that he's exempt from consequences. Obviously I think the elderly couple ought to sue him for damages, and I think they deserve every penny they can get because it was a stupid, irresponsible tweet that caused damage.
 
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:11 pm

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 10):
As for lawsuits, that elderly couple needs to be compensated.

I'll add, that even if he got Mr. Zimmerman's address correct, he should be held civilly liable.

Quoting wingman (Reply 9):
Didn't you same guys argue that Sarah shouldn't get free room and board at Marion Fed . Pen. for telling 61M registered Republicans to shoot the negro President with high powered, scoped rifles?

Please cite.
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:59 pm

Quoting wingman (Reply 9):
Didn't you same guys argue that Sarah shouldn't get free room and board at Marion Fed . Pen. for telling 61M registered Republicans to shoot the negro President with high powered, scoped rifles?

Have you been reading Daily Kos again? When did she ever say any such thing?

Quoting Airport (Reply 11):
He never directly threatened anybody nor did he choose for people to intimidate those homeowners.

Yes he did. He has a mailing list of 240,000 or so "followers". It's a targeted mailing list.
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:15 pm

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 12):
I'll add, that even if he got Mr. Zimmerman's address correct, he should be held civilly liable.

Agreed. I don't think this should have happened to anyone, but when it happens to an elderly couple who are forced to hide out in a hotel, it just makes it so much worse.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 13):
Yes he did. He has a mailing list of 240,000 or so "followers". It's a targeted mailing list.

That's how you and others infer it, there was no explicit threat. It wouldn't hold water in court. His first argument is going to be "FREE SPEECH!". Then when that gets old, they'll make the argument that Zimmerman's address is publically available information, and that Lee was publishing what is already public (not a crime).

But then again, they are in Florida, so who knows...
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:34 pm

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 14):
But then again, they are in Florida, so who knows...


As a Native Floridian, I take offense to that. See you in court.  

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Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:53 pm

Quoting sprout5199 (Reply 15):
As a Native Floridian, I take offense to that. See you in court.

Can I still hide behind the First Ammendment if I'm not American?!  
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:46 pm

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 14):
That's how you and others infer it, there was no explicit threat.


So, the quote “FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT & TOUCH HIM." is not a threat. Sounds like it is inciting bodily harm to me.

Even when William Zimmerman (the son of the elderly couple) pleaded with the man who tweeted the address, the man responded, "Black power all day. No justice, no peace" along with an obscenity.

Yea, nothing to fear here, no inciting of violence here, move along.

The media really screwed up here and now it looks like there will probably be lots more of this kind of behavior before it is all over.
 
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:49 pm

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 16):
Can I still hide behind the First Ammendment if I'm not American?!

effn Canucks, think they are American. Just because its called North America, doesnt mean you are an American. We just need to make you a state, and be done with it. But Quebec can go to France, we will pay for the shipping.   


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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:15 pm

What's the daily kos? As in the island? Not sure what the connection is there. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of people equating this to terrorism but not Palin's encouragement to shoot freely elected political representatives. I'll assume that none of you calling for Spike Lee's arrest in this case defended Palin in the prior case. Either that or you were consistent in also labeling her a terrorist in that case.
 
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:35 pm

Quoting starbuk7 (Reply 17):
So, the quote “FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT & TOUCH HIM." is not a threat. Sounds like it is inciting bodily harm to me.

You kind of make my case by saying "sounds like it is inciting bodily harm to me". That is how you inferred it. Lee didn't say "feel free to reach out and cause him bodily harm". Let's say one of these protesters actually acted on their anger and assaulted Zimmerman, then turned around and said he did it cause Spike Lee told him to. The argument wouldn't hold up because at the end of the day, the defendant acted in malice based on his understanding of Lee's tweet, not the actual substance of it.

Don't get me wrong, Lee is an idiot for doing this (twice I think?), but all I'm saying is that he won't see a prison cell for it. The closest he'll get to a courtroom is for a civil suit.

Quoting starbuk7 (Reply 17):
The media really screwed up here and now it looks like there will probably be lots more of this kind of behavior before it is all over.

This I definitely agree with. But unfortunately I don't think the media will ever change. To think I used to want to be a journalist when I was a kid  
Quoting sprout5199 (Reply 18):
effn Canucks, think they are American. Just because its called North America, doesnt mean you are an American. We just need to make you a state, and be done with it.

Naw, I think we're pretty happy with our "socialized" healthcare the way it is  
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Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:15 pm

Quoting Dreadnought (Thread starter):
Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?  

As deplorable as what I think Spike Lee did, why should he go to jail? What crime did he commit?

There are lots of bad actions that people can do. Some of them are even immoral. But that does not make it illegal.

Quoting Airport (Reply 11):
Jail? Not just no, but hell no. And I'm not sure how anyone who claims to love the Constitution could truly suggest such a thing.

I agree.
 
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:36 pm

Quoting D L X (Reply 21):
As deplorable as what I think Spike Lee did, why should he go to jail? What crime did he commit?

In Brandenburg v. Ohio 1942, the USSC decided : ” . . . the constitutional guarantees of free speech and free press do not permit a State to forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force or of law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action.”

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):

That could also mean a kiss on the check.

Lee and the others who circulated this tweet clearly meant it to reach somebody who was willing to go to that house and "reach out and touch someone" - a very common euphemism used by snipers for shooting someone - a hack of an old AT&T commercial. Considering the tweet contained a street address, and not a phone number, surely they did not mean for people to simply give George a call. It was a call to murder.
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:29 pm

Quoting Dreadnought (Thread starter):
As it happens, the address was wrong. But I see this as nothing less than terrorism. Anyone who sent or forwarded that tweet is guilty of incitement to do someone harm.

That's an odd definition of terrorism.

Reckless endangerment maybe?
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Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:39 pm

Oh please...."reach out and touch him" is not an incitement to do Zimmerman harm. It's actually a paraphrase of a Diana Ross song from the 70's about peace and the making the world a better place.

http://youtu.be/BWBryeMJ9Fc

Hardly, inciting a mob. The neocons are really reaching here....
 
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:52 pm

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 22):
Quoting D L X (Reply 21):
As deplorable as what I think Spike Lee did, why should he go to jail? What crime did he commit?

In Brandenburg v. Ohio 1942, the USSC decided : ” . . . the constitutional guarantees of free speech and free press do not permit a State to forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force or of law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action.”

Right. I get that, but that still does not define a crime. That says that the first amendment would not protect it (if this could be considered advocacy to incite violence, which is a very high burden to prove).

Again, what actual crime was committed?

An example is the guy that wrote the addresses of all the abortion doctors in the nation, and marked them out with a red line when the doctor died/was killed. The guy claimed First Amendment, the 9 Circuit said "no."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/11/09/national/main7038067.shtml

But what the guy was convicted of was a federal law protecting the safety of abortion clinics, not saying something that wasn't protected by the First Amendment.
 
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:59 pm

Quoting wingman (Reply 19):
I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of people equating this to terrorism but not Palin's encouragement to shoot freely elected political representatives.

Once again, please cite.

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 24):
Oh please...."reach out and touch him" is not an incitement to do Zimmerman harm. It's actually a paraphrase of a Diana Ross song from the 70's about peace and the making the world a better place.

Wow, that's a reach.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 23):
That's an odd definition of terrorism.

Terrorism is designed to incite fear. We equate it with violence, but terrorism is not just violence. Someone can be terrorized simply through words. This event doesn't rise to the level of terrorism that we're used to, but it most certainly fits definition.

But, having said that, I would not want Mr. Lee, nor his supplier, charged with any such thing.

For the legal types out there: if someone visited some act of violence on Mr. Zimmerman, and the person indicated that he was moved to such action, in part by Mr. Lee's tweet, would Mr. Lee now be criminally, as well as civillly liable?
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:27 pm

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 1):
It's a low level form of terrorism. Certainly doesn't rise to the levels we see elsewhere.
Quoting Airport (Reply 11):

Now that doesn't mean that he's exempt from consequences
Quoting fr8mech (Reply 12):

I'll add, that even if he got Mr. Zimmerman's address correct, he should be held civilly liable.

I agree that Lee should be arrested for assault,and if found guilty, punished for this hideous action on his person.His past behavior along with this Zimmerman address bit tells me his a racist terrorist.But he's protect by media/Hollywood.So much for that.He should be booed off the Knicks game court.

I believe, i read that Lee with other celebrities also gave monies to the black panthers militia group but I don't remember the source.

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Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:29 am

If you were to ever get the amount of "use" I have for Spike Lee in your eye, you would never feel it !

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Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:46 am

Quoting wingman (Reply 9):

Didn't you same guys argue that Sarah shouldn't get free room and board at Marion Fed . Pen. for telling 61M registered Republicans to shoot the negro President with high powered, scoped rifles?


Really?

In your alternate reality, did she tell you what color knickers to wear, as well?
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Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:04 am

Quoting sprout5199 (Reply 18):
effn Canucks, think they are American. Just because its called North America, doesnt mean you are an American. We just need to make you a state, and be done with it. But Quebec can go to France, we will pay for the shipping.  

Do you want 35 million more liberals in the USA because that is what you get, conservatives in Canada are democrats.

Quoting wingman (Reply 19):
I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of people equating this to terrorism but not Palin's encouragement to shoot freely elected political representatives.

To be fair Sarah Palin put on her facebook page in the 2010 congressional campaign bullseye for districts that needed to be in play and said "Don't retreat, reload.". It could have been said better but only an idiot would see that as a reason to go and cap democratic members of congress.

IIRC the big controversy was that one of those district's was congresswomen Gifford's and we all know what happened there.
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Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:11 am

If I was those "Zimmermans" I would sue. Jail? No probably not unless there was physical harm done to them. But I would certainly sue.

Quoting wingman (Reply 9):
Didn't you same guys argue that Sarah shouldn't get free room and board at Marion Fed . Pen. for telling 61M registered Republicans to shoot the negro President with high powered, scoped rifles?


Is this a serious statement?
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Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:38 am

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 22):
It was a call to murder.

This is almost impossible to prove in court.

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 26):
if someone visited some act of violence on Mr. Zimmerman, and the person indicated that he was moved to such action, in part by Mr. Lee's tweet, would Mr. Lee now be criminally, as well as civillly liable?

I think he would almost certainly be detained for questioning in the initial investigation. But I highly doubt charges would come about because the DA would know the burden of proof is massively on the backs of the State.

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Do you want 35 million more liberals in the USA because that is what you get, conservatives in Canada are democrats.

Slow down there! We're still Conservative, just much more moderate than our neighbours to the south, which would probably give the illusion of being Liberal in comparison.
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Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:16 am

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 24):
."reach out and touch him" is not an incitement to do Zimmerman harm. It's actually a paraphrase of a Diana Ross song from the 70's about peace and the making the world a better place.

Perhaps a mob of bad karaoke singers singing "Reach Out And Touch" on his doorstep would be enough to make George Zimmerman kill himself.

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 26):
Wow, that's a reach.

No, it was a hit.
It was released April, 1970 and peaked at #20 on the pop charts and #7 on the R&B charts.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 22):
a hack of an old AT&T commercial.

Wrong. It was a Diana Ross song.

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 22):
"reach out and touch someone" - a very common euphemism used by snipers for shooting someone. It was a call to murder.

Let's use the same logic and rational as George Zimmerman's 'friend' name Joe. "Reach Out And Touch Someone" can also be used as a term as endearment.

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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:24 am

Quoting starbuk7 (Reply 6):
He should have to pay damages to this couple as well. Why are celebrities so stupid.

I think he should have to pay for their new home and damages for the decreased value of their current home from which they have had to move. I'm sure their lawyers will come up with lots of theories why Spike Lee should pay even more.


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Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:56 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 35):

Spike Lee just apologized.

So did Rush Limbaugh. Apologies are worthless. You cannot un-ring a bell.
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:19 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 36):
Apologies are worthless.

Apologies aren't worthless, but this particular one is. He says "it was a mistake" like he got the address wrong. He did not say "I was dumb for doing it." That would have been a worthwhile apology.
 
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Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:54 pm

From the newspaper:

I was surprised, given the gravity of the potential danger to the occupant living at the Edgewater Circle address, that other news outlets had not reported the case of mistaken identity already.

My opinions:
I feel the other local media outlets didn't report it because they're wanted to tone down the political rhetoric with Lee.But this had all the makings of another horrible tragedy gone wrong caused by Lee.And the media/Hollywood will protect him.And that sucks.Lee should be criminal charged.But I hope the McClains sue the hell out of him.

ESPN during the Knicks-Magic game keep asking where was Lee.

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Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:36 am

Yes!...for rote supidity. He is a threat to humanity! And take the New Black Panthers with him,...Buy the way,...what happened to the old ones?
 
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Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:08 am

Quoting Dreadnought (Thread starter):
As it happens, the address was wrong. But I see this as nothing less than terrorism. Anyone who sent or forwarded that tweet is guilty of incitement to do someone harm.

What do you think?

Emotionally I agree but realistically Spike just demonstrated how he is an idiot and phony. I used to like him but after his anti-Semitic rants he can take his statements and work and shove it where the sun don't shine. If I were the family with that address that A Hole spike gave out I'd get a good lawyer and take him to the cleaners. Do the right thing and sue his ass off.
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:22 am

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 39):

Yes!...for rote supidity. He is a threat to humanity! And take the New Black Panthers with him,...Buy the way,...what happened to the old ones?

Please take a moment and read this.

I'm thrilled to see the New Black Panthers Party active and you should be too, because it reminds me that this country is still free.

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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:57 am

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 10):
As for lawsuits, that elderly couple needs to be compensated. This is totally unacceptable and Lee owes them a healthy cheque.

He should do so out of goodwill at least.

Quoting Airport (Reply 11):
What he said was public information that falls every bit into 1st amendment rights.
Quoting D L X (Reply 37):
Apologies aren't worthless, but this particular one is. He says "it was a mistake" like he got the address wrong. He did not say "I was dumb for doing it." That would have been a worthwhile apology.

That won't fit into 140 characters or less. The message he tweeted was 140 characters.
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:11 pm

I have restored respect in both of Jon Stewart,whom I thought would never run a story on Lee, and some media calling out Lee for his actions.Here's a link of Stewart's entire program which intro's a hilarious story on the health care issue.Enjoy!




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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:23 am

I just read about a somewhat similar case in Germany today. An 11 years old girl was raped and murdered in a city called Emden. Two days later the police arrested a 17 years old suspect and the first ''details'' emerged in the tabloids. ''Suspect has no alibi'', ''It doesn't look good for the suspect, says head of police''. Reason enough for some smart neighbors, who saw the police arrest the kid (in plainclothes), to share his name (illegal in Germany) and address (even more illegal) on Facebook. From what I understand there was some sort of group where people conspired to storm the police station to lynch the guy.

A day later, it turns out it can be ruled out that the suspect had anything to do with the murder and was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

The German police is now leading an investigation against the police of Emden for arresting the guy in the eyes of the public, and has charged some 50 people for the comments they have posted on Facebook.

It's hard to prove who authored these comments so the prosecution will be anything but easy, but I hope they will be hit with the full gamut of the law. I'm usually the last person who believes in punishment or making examples of people, but this is one of those situations where the 'common man' has to be made understood that these lynchmob sentiments belong in the 14th century.
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:30 pm

I wonder what Mr. Lee's response would be if I posted his address here. I doubt he would be amused and would not likely accept an apology. Civil suit by the people harmed is a given, unless he settles for a large (read huge) amount but I don't think jail.
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:46 pm

Quoting IMissPiedmont (Reply 45):

I wonder what Mr. Lee's response would be if I posted his address here.

When people said they were going to do that, he said "go ahead, tough guy." Not kidding.

Quoting IMissPiedmont (Reply 45):
Civil suit by the people harmed is a given, unless he settles for a large (read huge) amount but I don't think jail.

The matter has already been settled. He paid for the couple's expenses and an additional undisclosed amount.
 
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:10 pm

Didnt Justin Bieber just do this also to some great grandmother? Is he a terrorist?
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:35 am

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 47):
Didnt Justin Bieber just do this also to some great grandmother? Is he a terrorist?

His awful singing voice, lack of talent and obnoxious personality is terrorism enough! I hope his supposed relationship with Selena Gomez is just a Hollywood big money publicity stunt. Selena is too hot looking for that wimpy twerp. Nothing against Gays but I'd bet money the Biebs will be outed from his cloistered closet within the next five years.

Quoting D L X (Reply 46):
Quoting IMissPiedmont (Reply 45):

I wonder what Mr. Lee's response would be if I posted his address here.

When people said they were going to do that, he said "go ahead, tough guy." Not kidding.

Quoting IMissPiedmont (Reply 45):
Civil suit by the people harmed is a given, unless he settles for a large (read huge) amount but I don't think jail.

The matter has already been settled. He paid for the couple's expenses and an additional undisclosed amount.

A-hole racist Mr. Spike Lee should man up and publicly apologize on TV. Let him be interviewed by Piers Morgan. Better yet Howard Stern and or Simon Cowell. Chances are if Spike would do this he'd be interviewed by Oprah Moo Cow Winfrey with that satanic laugh of hers.
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RE: Should Spike Lee Go To Jail?

Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:10 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 36):

So did Rush Limbaugh. Apologies are worthless. You cannot un-ring a bell.

Correct. And since when are apologies in matters like this all that sincere anyway?

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 40):
Do the right thing and sue his ass off.

Lol, that's great! They just better get a lawyer who knows the system very well; a real Inside Man...
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