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New Fisker Nina

Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:34 am

Looks pretty good, it will be built in the US, using the same range extender hybrid technology as the Karma (but with a 1.6 BMW turbo 4) but at half the price, should sell well to those wanting to upgrade from a Prius to something nicer.

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/28171/images/fiskerninanewyorkautoshow02.jpg

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RE: New Fisker Nina

Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:06 pm

That is a pretty good looking car. I hope it's successful, which I think it will be if they can get the price down to the $50K mark or less.

The main question is whether the big manufacturers can produce a similar car for $30K or less, without subsidies.
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RE: New Fisker Nina

Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:45 pm

I can see I've done well to get KiwiRob to look at hybrid/electric.  

I'm not counting on this car ever being built. They have stopped work on the factory and not meeting deadlines for their loan guarantees while under withering negative media pressure over ongoing Karma problems. Without an infusion of money, quickly, this won't be built. They may also need to deal with Chrysler over the naming rights.
Fisker has come up with 3 stellar designs though imo. I would like to see them swallowed up by the likes of Ford in their quest to rebuild Lincoln.
 
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RE: New Fisker Nina

Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:33 pm

IS it just me? or is it a dead on copy of a Maserati Gran Turismo?

Will it be enough to save Fisker is the question
 
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RE: New Fisker Nina

Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:36 pm

Not a big fan of the design, to be honest.

Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 3):
or is it a dead on copy of a Maserati Gran Turismo?

The GranTurismo is a lot better looking!  
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RE: New Fisker Nina

Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:10 pm

Quoting mham001 (Reply 2):
I can see I've done well to get KiwiRob to look at hybrid/electric.

I wouldn't go quite that far  
 
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RE: New Fisker Nina

Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:53 pm

I must admit to having the utmost of respect for Henrik Fisker as a designer. He did, after all, give us the BMW Z8 and Aston Martin DB9 - both excellent examples of modern automotive beauty.

This beast, however, does look a bit like an AM Rapide meeting a Maserati Gran Turismo meeting a Jag XJ. Still, it's a heck of a lot more pleasing to the eye than anything short of a Karma in the world of hybrid cars, so if they can get the price right and if fuel prices continues its rapid ascent, it might very well have a future. If only it had 500 km range, exchangeable batteries and the Autobahn had exchange facilities at all - or even most - services, I might be tempted. Not yet though; think I'll have to wait for version 3.0 of the hybrid car before seriously considering it.
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RE: New Fisker Nina

Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:41 pm

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 6):
He did, after all, give us the BMW Z8 and Aston Martin DB9

I thought the DB9 was designed by Ian Callum?

Anyway, for me the DB9's got to be one of the prettiest cars - if not the prettiest - of the last decade.
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RE: New Fisker Nina

Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:49 pm

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 7):
I thought the DB9 was designed by Ian Callum?

Fisker is generally credited with the design, but Callum is said to have some initial input before heading design of just Jaguar.
 
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RE: New Fisker Nina

Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:55 am

Quoting KiwiRob (Thread starter):
Looks pretty good, it will be built in the US, using the same range extender hybrid technology as the Karma (but with a 1.6 BMW turbo 4) but at half the price,

Drop the M3's V8 or even the 335 horsepower I-6 in it and I'd be interested. But two full propulsion systems and likely weighing as much as larger cars doesn't appeal to me.

Quoting mham001 (Reply 2):
Without an infusion of money, quickly, this won't be built.

They could just do what Tesla does and keep announcing new models every so often to get a fresh batch of deposits. Rinse and repeat.

Quoting BlueElephant (Reply 3):
or is it a dead on copy of a Maserati Gran Turismo?

Looks wise, kind of. The Karma is a good looking car as well, but things get a lot uglier under the hood when you are talking about a sedan that weighs 1,000 lbs more than a Porsche Panamera or Maserati Quattroporte. Fisker has a lot of work to do to make the Nina competitive.
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RE: New Fisker Nina

Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:48 am

I don't like it so much.. I think Henrik Fisker should have stayed with Aston Martin.
 
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RE: New Fisker Nina

Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:16 pm

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 10):
I think Henrik Fisker should have stayed with Aston Martin.

Why, he had a dream to build his own car and had the balls to follow it, most people don't!
 
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RE: New Fisker Nina

Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:17 pm

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 11):
Why, he had a dream to build his own car and had the balls to follow it, most people don't!

True, but the AMs were prettier.
 
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RE: New Fisker Nina

Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:45 pm

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 12):
True, but the AMs were prettier.

The problem with AM is they keep on building the same bloody car, the next DB9 looks just like the current one.

http://cdn3.worldcarfans.co/2012/3/26/large/9612298851930184591.jpg

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RE: New Fisker Nina

Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:30 pm

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 11):
Why, he had a dream to build his own car and had the balls to follow it, most people don't!

Actually, he had a dream to build rebodied Mercedes and BMWs and had the balls to follow it. Then he started the electric thing, which honestly I think is a bit of a mistake because the Karma looks good enough that, with a good rummage through the parts bin, it could have been a cult hit with a conventional powertrain and be a better drive. Then they could have worked on an electric variant, but they've instead made the car a lightning rod and have had problems stemming from the electric powertrain.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 13):
The problem with AM is they keep on building the same bloody car, the next DB9 looks just like the current one.

   Basically every production Aston from the last eight years looks the same. They are too far on the GT side of the spectrum for me anyway.
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RE: New Fisker Nina

Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:00 am

The compact $50,000 USD "Atlantic" (no, not "NINA"!!) have the same range-extender hybrid technology as the larger (and more expensive - $107,000 USD) Fisker Karma luxury sedan, but with a smaller engine acting as a generator, likely a 2.0 liter turbocharged four-cylinder petrol engine supplied by BMW. The new Atlantic takes its design language from it big brother, the Karma. The moustache grille at the front is a bit contrived but it is Fisker's signature grille - and it seems to me that overall, the proportions are much better than the Karma sedans, which features an extremely long hood/short deck design. The tiny rear doors on the Karma in combination with the standard 20" wheels looks ridiculous and compromises ingress to the (smallish) rear seat. The Atlantic slated to be the first Fisker product made in the automaker’s Wilmington, Delaware assembly plant, which was formerly General Motors' "Boxwood Road" plant, which last produced the Saturn Sky and Pontiac Solstice convertible two-seat roadsters (and previously the Chevrolet Corsica and Chevy Beretta - LOL). Fisker expects the Atlantic sedan to be its "bread and butter" product, generating most of the brand's sales and is being shown at the New York Auto Show this week.
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RE: New Fisker Nina

Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:15 am

They will never build a car in Delaware.
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RE: New Fisker Nina

Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:53 am

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 13):
The problem with AM is they keep on building the same bloody car, the next DB9 looks just like the current one.

That is also true.. I agree they need to renew themselves.
 
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RE: New Fisker Nina

Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:56 am

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 17):
. I agree they need to renew themselves.

unfortunately they keep getting told by car journos that they make the world's most beautiful cars so they believe their own hype and keep photocopying a bigger or smaller version of the DB9 as a new model....
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