|Quoting virginblue4 (Thread starter):|
I completely disagree with animal testing and believe it is disgusting that it is still used in 2012
I'm glad you clarified on the medical. I'm alive due to animal testing. There is no doubt I would be dead today if a surgical technique wasn't perfected on pigs. I was told my operating surgeon killed the first 4 pigs he tried the operation on. The next 16 survived. As did the *one* prior human patient for the operation. The doctors explained that 180 pigs died prior to finding the technique that 'should work.'
Thanks to further animal testing over the following decades, a five hour heroic surgery is now a 20 minute outpatient service. Well that and fiber optic lasers replaced a scalpel.
I don't condone cruelty to animals, but for common animals used to save a human life, there is work that needs to be done. e.g. I'm convinced a certain chemical is responsible for 60% of the spike in autism. But it will take animal testing to prove it. Is that worth it to better understand autism?
|Quoting DocLightning (Reply 2):|
Also, I'm not sure how I feel about purely academic research with no real practical application being done on vertebrates. Sometimes, applications appear, but I'd rather see an application in mind.
I'm alive due to such testing on vertebrates. So I have a different opinion. Now, there was an application in mind. One that if it was developed 3 months later, there would be no lightsaber. But what about autism research?
Ok, I'm going to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but when I was a grad student studying combustion, I noted that autism spiked 18 to 36 months in regions after the introduction of MTBE. (I was doing a paper on the merits of ethanol vs. MTBE while another grad student was writing a paper on regional spikes in autism... She had tables of when autism spiken in a region. I had tables on ethanol and MTBE regional consumption and air quality (NOx in the urban air shed)) Can I prove it?
But to test that theory would require first 'aging' some vertebrates, exposing them to chemicals (MTBE), breeding them, and comparing their autism rate versus a same group. I believe the research is worthwhile. But it would be debatable.
I hope a solution is found to preserve the Tigers.