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Favourite Star Trek Movie.

Fri May 11, 2012 8:46 pm

Hi!

Thought I'd ask people if interested what their favourite Star Trek movie was. For me it has to be First Contact, good story and good music. Probably followed by Star Trek 3: The Search for Spock although I haven't seen that one in a long time. I also quite liked the JJ Abrams recent movie too. I really thought I was going to hate it but it had a decent story.

Thoughts welcome if interested!

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RE: Favourite Star Trek Movie.

Fri May 11, 2012 10:16 pm

Quoting Ps76 (Thread starter):
For me it has to be First Contact,

First Contact is the only good movie of the TNG cast. They rest are average to godawful.

I'd rank them First Contact, Generations, Insurrection, getting my wang slammed in a car door, and Nemesis.

Quoting Ps76 (Thread starter):
Star Trek 3: The Search for Spock

I like that one too. I like watching ST2, 3 and 4 in order since they are direct continuations of each other.


The TOS movies are tougher to rank. TWOK is clearly the winner, with Voyage Home 2nd, Undiscovered Country 3rd, Search for Spock 3rd, TMP 4th and Final Frontier a distant 5th.




Quoting Ps76 (Thread starter):
. I also quite liked the JJ Abrams recent movie too.

I saw it. I liked the visual styling very much. I just didn't care much for the story.
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RE: Favourite Star Trek Movie.

Fri May 11, 2012 10:34 pm

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 1):
I'd rank them First Contact, Generations, Insurrection, getting my wang slammed in a car door, and Nemesis.

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The issue with Generations was that the destruction of Enterprise-D was completely pointless and not in any way essential to plot development. It was so wanton and gratuitous and was really just done so they could get rid of the ship and replace it with something cooler-looking.

My favorite was actually the very first TOS movie. It's a lot like Beethoven's 1st Symphony. It's underrated, many people have never even seen it, and yet, for what it is, it was very well done. It was also the first time that the Klingons were depicted as actually looking like aliens.
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RE: Favourite Star Trek Movie.

Fri May 11, 2012 10:42 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 2):
The issue with Generations was that the destruction of Enterprise-D was completely pointless and not in any way essential to plot development. It was so wanton and gratuitous and was really just done so they could get rid of the ship and replace it with something cooler-looking.

Mine as well. I think part of it was that they really needed to build new models/sets for the movies as reusing the TV sets was problematic. All the stuff you could get away with in terms of detailing on standard def TV wasn't going to fly on 35mm cinema film. So why not destroy the ship and replace it with something else since you needed new models and sets anyways. It didn't help that the show runners, Brannon and Braga, pretty much over saturated the market with Trek and trashed the franchise.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 2):
My favorite was actually the very first TOS movie. It's a lot like Beethoven's 1st Symphony. It's underrated, many people have never even seen it, and yet, for what it is, it was very well done. It was also the first time that the Klingons were depicted as actually looking like aliens.

It is good in the sense that Roddenberry had the budget to style everything the way it should have been. No more cardboard and styrofoam sets. I think visually it is a very pretty much and the special effects are good for the late 70s. But its long, slow and the story isn't so great. It does come off a bit like a very extended TV episode in some ways.
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RE: Favourite Star Trek Movie.

Fri May 11, 2012 11:23 pm

Wrath of Khan

I didn't like that they brought Spock back in the next one. It seemed cheap to me. Like Ben said on Lost when asked why he was surprised about Locke's "resurrection" ...."Dead is dead"
 
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RE: Favourite Star Trek Movie.

Sat May 12, 2012 12:03 am

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 3):
It does come off a bit like a very extended TV episode in some ways.

Similar could be said reagrding ST5TFF.

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 1):
The TOS movies are tougher to rank. TWOK is clearly the winner, with Voyage Home 2nd, Undiscovered Country 3rd, Search for Spock 3rd, TMP 4th and Final Frontier a distant 5th.

So you're saying ST6TUC & ST3TSFS are tied? Fair enough, my ranking is the same.
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RE: Favourite Star Trek Movie.

Sat May 12, 2012 3:48 am

STar Trek 2 was best,

second best would be 6, IMHO. Perfect ending.


The latest Star Trek really was quite impressive though. I think the one that came out in 2010, the prequel.
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RE: Favourite Star Trek Movie.

Sat May 12, 2012 4:36 am

I wasn't a huge fan of any of the TOS movies. Of all the movies out so far, First Contact is by far, my favorite. I must say though, that I was a bit upset that they didn't do any Voyager-based movies...like ships going back to the Delta Quadrant to continue the work that Voyager started. I guess that's what novels are for.

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Sat May 12, 2012 7:04 am

I'd rate First Contact as my favourite Star Trek film. I've not met a Star Trek fan who disliked First Contact. In my view, it's got everything I want in a Star Trek film ... perhaps with the exception of the Enterprise-D.

My second favourite - and my favourite of the TOS-based films, is The Voyage Home. It was the first Star Trek of any type - film or TV episode - that I saw, and I loved the lighter, more humourous tone. I prefer it to many other Trekkies' favourites such as The Wrath of Khan and The Undiscovered Country - which are still very, very good films, but I just preferred The Voyage Home over those.
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RE: Favourite Star Trek Movie.

Sat May 12, 2012 9:11 am

Definitely First Contact, obviously the story is good but some of the music score had more of an effect on me then anything else in Star Trek movies.

I also liked to see how Earth was basically in the dumps but started out on it's way to a much brighter future. Plus, who could forget Zefram's real vision for the future, to quote:

''You wanna know what my vision is ? .. Dollar signs ! Money ! I didn't build this ship to usher in a new era for humanity. You think I wanna go to the stars? I don't even like to fly. I take trains. I built this ship so that I could retire to some tropical island filled with .. naked women.''

That cracked me up 
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RE: Favourite Star Trek Movie.

Sat May 12, 2012 10:50 am

Hi!

Nice to read people's opinions in here. Thanks.

Quoting 9MMPQ (Reply 9):
I also liked to see how Earth was basically in the dumps but started out on it's way to a much brighter future. Plus, who could forget Zefram's real vision for the future, to quote:

''You wanna know what my vision is ? .. Dollar signs ! Money ! I didn't build this ship to usher in a new era for humanity. You think I wanna go to the stars? I don't even like to fly. I take trains. I built this ship so that I could retire to some tropical island filled with .. naked women.''

That cracked me up

I really liked that actor who played Zephrean Cochran (sp?) in First Contact. He was in so many movies back then and is still in the occasional film today. I think he was in LA Confidential as well although I'm not sure. Didn't he play the bad police luitenant?

Plus the scenes where Geordie Leforge was idolizing him all the time were funny too. Levar Burton (?) did a good job!

Thanks.

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RE: Favourite Star Trek Movie.

Sat May 12, 2012 1:36 pm

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 1):
I'd rank them First Contact, Generations, Insurrection, getting my wang slammed in a car door, and Nemesis.

Aw c'mon, Nemesis was better than Insurrection. It certainly had cooler shots of the Enterprise-E. First Contact was great but Picard was a completely different character than he was in the TV series, awesomely badass though he was in the movie.
 
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RE: Favourite Star Trek Movie.

Sat May 12, 2012 3:06 pm

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 8):
My second favourite - and my favourite of the TOS-based films, is The Voyage Home. It was the first Star Trek of any type - film or TV episode - that I saw, and I loved the lighter, more humourous tone.

A few episodes from the TOS had some humorous moments (The Trouble With Tribbles from Season 2 had it throughout the entire episode). As a matter of fact, the line where Kirk is explaining to Gillian regarding Spock (the LDS remark) is very similar to a line that used in the Season 1 episode of City on the Edge of Forever where Kirk is trying to explain to a cop on Earth circa 1930 regarding Spock (who had not yet concealed his pointed ears with a hat at the time).

Clip showing the scene (0:50-1:09) after one gets through a commercial advertisement:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSJ0x8j4uLw&feature=relmfu
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RE: Favourite Star Trek Movie.

Sat May 12, 2012 3:17 pm

Quoting Ps76 (Reply 10):
I really liked that actor who played Zephrean Cochran (sp?) in First Contact. He was in so many movies back then and is still in the occasional film today. I think he was in LA Confidential as well although I'm not sure. Didn't he play the bad police luitenant?

James Cromwell, great actor, made a great Dr Cochrane. Yep, he was the bad Lt in L.A. Confidential, his final scene with Guy Pearce was excellent. "Hold up your badge son so they know you're a policeman"

First Contact does it for me too, my favoutite Trek film by a long way.

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