KingFriday013
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More RTW Planning: Addis Ababa, Nairobi, Or Tunis?

Sun May 27, 2012 5:15 am

Hey y'all! In another thread I asked about Buenos Aires Or São Paulo? (by KingFriday013 May 18 2012 in Non Aviation) (or Rio!) and settled on Buenos Aires; now I am stepping back a few stops and I need your advice for the Africa stop!

The cities I'm considering are Addis Ababa (ADD), Nairobi (NBO), or Tunis (TUN). Here's what the routings would look like:
   ...-BOM-NBO-ADD-AMS (via KRT but w/o leaving the plane)-CGN-CDG-EZE-NYC
   ...-BOM-NBO-CDG-CGN-CDG-EZE-NYC
   ...-BOM-CDG-TUN-CDG-CGN-CDG-EZE-NYC

One of the reasons I'm interested in Addis Ababa is because of the interesting story of Judaism in Ethiopia, and it would be interesting to see where that all began (although most live in Israel now). I still think it would be interesting because it's supposed to be very diverse and have a lot of museums and things like that. I also like that the routing will allow me to spend if anything at least a few hours in AMS without having to pay to make a side-trip.

Nairobi is known as the safari capital of Africa, and it offers a very modern, large city that is easy to get around. If I went to ADD, I would only have an hour or so in NBO if schedules do not change, so I can't really visit NBO and ADD on the same trip without making a separate excursion. There is also currently a travel advisory for Kenya, but the situation could change in a year or two (for better or for worse).

Finally, there's Tunis. Tunis has an exciting and very long history and its northern location, on the coast of the Mediterranean Sea, differentiates it from my other two possibilities. It would allow me access to the Sahara desert which would be cool; I also noticed I can rent a car there (although Hertz doesn't have Gold Canopy service, and I wouldn't say rentals are exactly cheap, with a "Fiat Uno" available for 51 EUR per day)! On the other hand, there is also a travel advisory for Tunisia (which again could change in the future).

So, what do you think? ADD, NBO, or TUN? They each have exciting advantages of their own. Unless the situations deteriorate in Kenya and/or Tunisia, I really don't think there's a possibility of going wrong with any of these three cities. Do any one of these cities truly shine more than others though (not necessarily literally!)? Also, as you may have assumed, I am Jewish, so I also want to consider if any of these three places are less friendly towards Jews than the others.

Thanks again for your advice  

-J.
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RE: More RTW Planning: Addis Ababa, Nairobi, Or Tunis?

Sun May 27, 2012 10:02 am

Quoting KingFriday013 (Thread starter):
(via KRT but w/o leaving the plane)

But, Khartoum is a beautiful city, with covered pedestrians ways, with the beautiful scenery where the two Niles come together, with nice people

Quoting KingFriday013 (Thread starter):
CDG-TUN-C

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Tunis is quite a difference to Khartoum which is inhabited by "black" people who however see themselves as Arabs, and as a city is largely a product of the 19th and the early 20th century. Tunis is inhabited by "white" people who however share culture, ideas and ideals with the Sudanese. The very old city of Tunis, in spite of it having a population of 1 mio, has retained the charm of a small city. While the Med is not visible in the city-centre, the coastline to the north with places like Carthage and Sidi-Bou-Saïd offers excellent places for swimming and relaxing on the beach. Unlike Khartoum which is a hot place, Tunis has a nice moderate climate. Sure, Tunis cannot compete with Casablanca and Cairo or with the "Pearls of the Med" Alexandria and Beirut, but is worth a visit always. The excellent Tunisian cuisine and the good Tunisian wines make eating out in Tunis splendid !
 
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RE: More RTW Planning: Addis Ababa, Nairobi, Or Tunis?

Sun May 27, 2012 3:40 pm

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 1):
But, Khartoum is a beautiful city, with covered pedestrians ways, with the beautiful scenery where the two Niles come together, with nice people

It does sound really nice, but my situation prohibits me from entering Sudan (i.e., Sudanese officials checking my passport) so I can't really go there.

Also, I was just checking the SkyTeam RTW planner and now it's routing me BOM-AMS-CGN-CDG-TUN-FCO-EZE-NYC which is interesting... and I must say I think I like the FCO layover (if current schedules hold, I would have enough time to go into the city too!).

-J.
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RE: More RTW Planning: Addis Ababa, Nairobi, Or Tunis?

Tue May 29, 2012 7:10 am

Both Addis and Nairobi are great cities to see. Top-notch nightlife for both, then Nairobi has the chance to do a wildlife safari right in the city (Nairobi park) and Addis has an enormous cultural heritage unique to Ethiopia.
 
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RE: More RTW Planning: Addis Ababa, Nairobi, Or Tunis?

Tue May 29, 2012 8:44 am

My personal preference would be Addis, for the reasons you mentioned, plus a very nice city in high green hilly countryside, elevation keeps it a good few degrees cooler than other African capitals. Nairobi is OK but nothing special except as a gateway to a safari. Tunis - lovely but...

Quoting KingFriday013 (Reply 2):
Sudanese officials checking my passport

...while being Jewish isn't a problem in any of these countries (inc Sudan), Israeli stamps in your passport, if that's what you're hinting at, means Tunisia, as well as Sudan, is off the list for you afaik.

Addis it is!

[Edited 2012-05-29 01:45:06]
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RE: More RTW Planning: Addis Ababa, Nairobi, Or Tunis?

Tue May 29, 2012 11:48 am

How do the safaris in Nairobi work? My grandfather went on a week-long safari once from somewhere else, but I won't have a week. Addis also sounds great also with its unique culture as JJJ mentioned and the nicer scenery that Cedarjet talked about.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 4):
Israeli stamps in your passport, if that's what you're hinting at, means Tunisia, as well as Sudan, is off the list for you afaik.

From what I understood, you could still enter Tunisia with an Israeli stamp in your passport.

Thanks everyone for the suggestions so far! Keep them coming! 

-J.
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RE: More RTW Planning: Addis Ababa, Nairobi, Or Tunis?

Tue May 29, 2012 11:57 am

Quoting KingFriday013 (Reply 5):
How do the safaris in Nairobi work? My grandfather went on a week-long safari once from somewhere else, but I won't have a week.

Nairobi national park is 10 minutes from downtown Nairobi, it's not Kruger, Ngorongoro or Masai Mara but you'll see big cats, buffaloes, zebras, giraffes, etc.

Of course you can hop on a flight to some bigger safari, but none is as accessible as Nairobi park.

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