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Goodfella Henry Hill Is Dead...

Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:54 am

Henry Hill was a soldier from the Lucchese Family in New York. Started early, when he was 13 years old. His life was featured in the movie Goodfellas (1990), starring DeNiro, Pesci and Ray Liotta, who played Henry Hill.

Hill died June 12,2012. May his soul rest in peace. Here's more :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Hill

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RE: Goodfella Henry Hill Is Dead...

Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:36 am

I hope he is in hell. He killed or supported the murder of dozens of men and women. He stole millions. He was a drug/alcohol addict for who some may have died due to his habit. He cheated on his 'friends', wife and family. He destroyed families, corrupted politcans and police, caused untold millions in insurance claims and to save his sorry ass, he ratted out his people. Even under the witness program, he was a total jerk. We should not glorify these people, not show them respect, but show them for the sad, sick, perverted and pathlogicaly disturbed persons they are.
 
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RE: Goodfella Henry Hill Is Dead...

Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:43 am

Yeah... I don't understand why varigb707 wants Hill's soul to "rest in peace."  
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RE: Goodfella Henry Hill Is Dead...

Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:55 am

Quoting Airstud (Reply 2):
"rest in peace."  

He deserves to rest in peace... like everyone else.   
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RE: Goodfella Henry Hill Is Dead...

Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:25 am

As one who has read about 90% of all the "Mafia" books ever written..................and at least 3 or 4 that Henry Hill was in, I can only say, Itbewer is pretty much right about Henry; one thing though..........Henry Hill was never "made"........he was only able to be an "associate" of the Mob / Family. But he was such a great "money maker", he was just "one of the mob", (but just couldn't be "made" due to his ethnicity)

The Goodfellows; probably about the truest picture of Mob activities of any move yet made, (plus unbelievable performances by Ray Liotta, Joe Pesci and DeNiro) (I've probably watched it like 10 time by now !)

Like a lot of people, I have always been "fascinated" (for lack of a better word) by organized crime; for a couple of reasons........because of my job, I had to go to a lot of places on a regular basis where the "mob" was at; a company I worked for in the '50's used to put us up in a hotel in Cicero ( The Towne Hotel ) that used to be Al Capone's "place" back in the 30's; believe me, Al Capone was dead and gone in the 50's, but "the mob" still ran the Towne Hotel ! One of our drivers made the mistake of being too "mouthy" in the lounge once, got beat half to death by two "goons", who then drug him out to the sidewalk, with his leg in the gutter..............and about 2 minutes later a black Cadilac came around the corner, and ran over the guy's leg, smashing it all up. I didn't eye-witness that incident, but I knew three other driver who did; what I DID eye-witness six months later, was a guy who was in a phone booth about 30 ft from where I was reading a paper, waiting for my cab to pick me up................a young guy from the restaurant comes in from the restaurant, goes to the phone booth, opens the door, and takes his "sap" to the guys head for like 2 minutes; then calmly wipes the blood off of his sap, sticks it in his pocket, and walks out, leaving the guy laying face down in a HUGE pool of blood; An old lady who ran the desk was not 15 feet away, also reading a paper, and she didn't "look once"......just kept on reading ! after another minute or so, two "goons come in through the alley door. grab the guy's legs, and drag him out the back door; a couple more minutes, in come a very old black fellow with a mop and mop bucket, mops up all the blood, and leaves; two more minutes, and my friend Ernie (who I was waiting for to go back to the terminal with me, comes down from his room, and says, "what's up" ? I said, "I'll tell you when we get back to Cincinnati" ! Right now, I'm getting the hell out of this place, and I'm NEVER coming back.............(and I never did)

What I'm pointing out here is, all the violence you see in "Mafia movies"............it really happens, every day, in real life !

After seeing some of the things I've seen, it would be damned hard for me to get very "chocked up", hearing about some "wiseguy" biting the dust ! I quit running to Chicago for a few years after that incident, but I saw a lot of mob stuff going on in Brooklyn and Queens that was just as bad; (fortunately I didn't witness any more people getting their brains beat out)

The incredible thing about all the "wiseguys" is, they ALL die young ! The few who manage to not get "whacked" by their own "associates" usually always die from diabetes and heart attacks ! I can't think of a "line of work" with a worse mortality rate ! But in spite of that, every young kid in the neighborhood wants to be a "wiseguy" ! (So much for Henry Hill)

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RE: Goodfella Henry Hill Is Dead...

Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:12 am

Quoting geezer (Reply 4):
Like a lot of people, I have always been "fascinated"

you and me both...
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RE: Goodfella Henry Hill Is Dead...

Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:32 am

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 1):
I hope he is in hell. He killed or supported the murder of dozens of men and women. He stole millions. He was a drug/alcohol addict for who some may have died due to his habit. He cheated on his 'friends', wife and family. He destroyed families, corrupted politcans and police, caused untold millions in insurance claims and to save his sorry ass, he ratted out his people. Even under the witness program, he was a total jerk. We should not glorify these people, not show them respect, but show them for the sad, sick, perverted and pathlogicaly disturbed persons they are.

With the risk of sounding rude... What's the difference between drinking/snorting your money away and going to a casino to waste your money away?

Anyway, there's no hell. That concept was pretty much invented to keep in check people who would otherwise not be kept in check religiously or otherwise.

That said, Mr. Henry Hill... wasn't exactly someone to look up to. Assuming what I saw in Goodfellas was true, there's absolutely no reason to wish him well.
 
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RE: Goodfella Henry Hill Is Dead...

Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:28 pm

Quoting varigb707 (Thread starter):
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RE: Goodfella Henry Hill Is Dead...

Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:59 pm

To many, Henry Hill was a rat and will always be one. He ratted on his friends to save his own skin and rats are not kindly looked upon in the circles he ran in. There are those that dispute his claims of his place within the Mafia and that he often overstated what he did. Some say he was a delivery boy and not some hard-nosed hustler and enforcer that he's been made out to be. Goodfellas (and the book Wiseguy that it was adapted from) was definitely embellished by Henry Hill presumably in the hopes of making some $$$. He was always out there trying to hustle some new business he had, be it spaghetti sauce "based on his mother's recipe", to artwork that looked not much better than what a child could paint, to selling personal items of his on eBay.

He had a longtime battle with substance abuse (If it wasn't for that, he probably never would have had to turn rat.) and would often lie about being sober whenever he appeared on the Howard Stern Show. What the Maifa couldn't accomplish, his own demons did.

He was a marked man for many years, but the Mafia had become so fragmented and many of the players associated with his years in the Mafia being either dead or in prison, he was eventually forgotten about by the Mafia.

If there is an afterlife, he was probably given the Billy Batts treatment by those he ratted on as soon as he showed up.........
 
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RE: Goodfella Henry Hill Is Dead...

Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:26 pm

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 1):
I hope he is in hell. He killed or supported the murder of dozens of men and women. He stole millions. He was a drug/alcohol addict for who some may have died due to his habit. He cheated on his 'friends', wife and family. He destroyed families, corrupted politcans and police, caused untold millions in insurance claims and to save his sorry ass, he ratted out his people. Even under the witness program, he was a total jerk. We should not glorify these people, not show them respect, but show them for the sad, sick, perverted and pathlogicaly disturbed persons they are.

So, when are we going to name a warship after him?   

Quoting geezer (Reply 4):
The Goodfellows; probably about the truest picture of Mob activities of any move yet made, (plus unbelievable performances by Ray Liotta, Joe Pesci and DeNiro) (I've probably watched it like 10 time by now !)

Outstanding movie. Still watch it when I come across it.

Quoting geezer (Reply 4):
Like a lot of people, I have always been "fascinated"

Not I. I grew up around it and was on the very fringes of the activities going on in Brooklyn and Queens. Saw too many of my 'acquaintances' go down the wrong road.

May he rest in peace, but, assuming you believe in such things, he's probably rotting in Hell, preferably being tormented by those he tormented in life.
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RE: Goodfella Henry Hill Is Dead...

Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:37 pm

Quoting varigb707 (Reply 3):

Quoting Airstud (Reply 2):
"rest in peace."  

He deserves to rest in peace... like everyone else.   

Ok, I hope he rots in hell peacefully.   
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RE: Goodfella Henry Hill Is Dead...

Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:45 pm

Quoting brilondon (Reply 10):
Ok, I hope he rots in hell peacefully.

good point!
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RE: Goodfella Henry Hill Is Dead...

Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:45 pm

Bad guy, but a great guest on Howard Stern.
 
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RE: Goodfella Henry Hill Is Dead...

Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:06 pm

Quoting RedAirForce (Reply 12):

Bad guy, but a great guest on Howard Stern.

I loved the antics in the wake of his first appearance on the Stern Show once it moved to Sirius:

Him lying there drunk in a planter at Rockefeller Center saying I want a caramel macchiato and Lisa G of Howard 100 News thinking he was saying something sexual towards her was classic.
 
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RE: Goodfella Henry Hill Is Dead...

Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:31 pm

Quoting RedAirForce (Reply 12):

Bad guy, but a great guest on Howard Stern.

From the Howardstern.com

R.I.P. HENRY HILL

Early in the show, Howard noted the death of Henry Hill, the “reformed” mafioso (he was the main character in Nicholas Pileggi's‘Wiseguy’ which became Martin Scorsese's ‘Goodfellas’) and long-time friend of the show: “I loved hearing Henry on the show and I loved hearing his mob stories. But Henry was a despicable guy. I mean, he’s killed people. He took a shortcut in life. … There was no substance to the guy. You didn’t realize he was a pathological liar.”
Howard remembered Henry’s greatest moments on the show: pimping his “awful, awful paintings”, claiming he’d killed and buried 2 stockbrokers on the 4th hole of the Rockville Center Links, slurring a Starbucks order at (a mistakenly offended) Lisa G, and laughing that deranged, sinister laugh: “This is why Ray Liotta is such a great actor. He had that laugh down in that movie.”

I have purchased one of Henry's painting a few years back. Bought it on Ebay for $25 bucks. I wonder it it's worth anything now...
Here it is...

   http://i47.tinypic.com/jiky1e.jpg
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RE: Goodfella Henry Hill Is Dead...

Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:46 pm

Quoting varigb707 (Reply 14):
http://i47.tinypic.com/jiky1e.jpg

Like I said in my earlier post, artwork that looked not much better than what a child could paint. I think my six year old cousin could do just as good of a job....... You can't even label his stuff as "folk art" it is so bad.
 
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RE: Goodfella Henry Hill Is Dead...

Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:50 pm

Quoting srbmod (Reply 15):
You can't even label his stuff as "folk art" it is so bad.

How about 'folksy'? Nah, maybe not.
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