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Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:59 am

Gee, and I saw this marriage going all the way....   


So now that her likely contractual obligation as a professional celebrity beard has come to a close, will Katie Holmes:

A. fade into relative obscurity with millions of dollars

B. muddle around in a few movie or TV roles, with no real meaningful success

C. shoot to superstardom on par with the likes of other Hollywood leading ladies her age

D. fall victim to a random, senseless act of violence for seemingly no reason, leaving her child without a mother
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:19 am

Well, hopefully:

E. go back to some semblance of a "normal" life (at least as far as Hollywood is concerned).

Another interesting tidbit I read today:

http://todayentertainment.today.msnb...riages-ended-when-wife-was-33?lite
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:54 am

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 1):

Very interesting........

Quoting EA CO AS (Thread starter):
B. muddle around in a few movie or TV roles, with no real meaningful success

You mean like her career has been since she married Tom Cruise? She was in the last Batman movie and that's about the biggest thing she's done since she married him.

They always seemed to be a bit of an odd couple anyway (wait a minute, that describes his marriage to Nicole Kidman as well). Katie Holmes at times seemed to look a bit robotic, as if she were a real-life Stepford Wife, in this case programmed by the "Church" Of Scientology. I'm sure there are guys willing to "deprogram" her......
 
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:37 am

Divorce....as in escaping the cult?
 
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:44 pm

I never thought this marriage would last mainly over the Scientology cult she never could accept. One story is that Holmes didn't want the child raised in Scientology, but rather in the Roman Catholic faith she believe in prior to her marriage to Cruse. She is seeking sole custody of Suri. I also suspect like with his previous 2 wives, that while initially attracted to his looks, Hollywood connections and some personality factors but in the end his excessive control of them eventually making them want to leave. She was not young when got married (29?) and it was her 1st marriage. Of course there are the constant rumors (as with fellow Scientologist John Travolta) of bisexuality.

Ms. Holmes' attorney made an interesting decision to file for divorce in NY State as unlike California divorce proceedings are kept very confidential from the public unlike California and not a mandate of a 50/50 split of assets.

To me this 'marriage' is a a good example of why many are both fascinated and repulsed by 'Hollywood' and too many 'celebs' who seems to have throwaway marriages.
 
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:47 pm

Quoting EA CO AS (Thread starter):
So now that her likely contractual obligation as a professional celebrity beard has come to a close, will Katie Holmes:

E. have a better live for herself and her daughter, without that fascist Scientology clown.
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:32 pm

Look, Tom makes no bones about who he is and his beliefs: what you see is what you get. Katie was no spring chicken when she married him, so did she go in with eyes wide shut? Just because she looks like the gril next door doesnt mean that she is all sweetness and light. There is much more to this than meets the eye...
 
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:36 pm

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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:37 pm

Gee, I wonder who ol' Tommy Boy will "jump the couch" for next?

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 4):
Of course there are the constant rumors (as with fellow Scientologist John Travolta) of bisexuality.

I don't follow Hollywood trash in general, and Tommy Boy in particular, but when I saw the video clips from his interview with Oprah when he first announced his relationship and did all that weird stuff, it struck me that he was trying to compensate for something. And the first thing that came to mind is that he is a closet homo or bi sexual. Sad, really, if he is and is trying to keep it hidden, especially in this day and age.

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have a better live for herself and her daughter, without that fascist Scientology clown.

  
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:40 pm

Having just watched Tom try and channel Bret Michaels in "Rock of Ages" and all I can say is that Katie Holmes really screwed him up
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:42 pm



OMG, what a shock!

Quoting comorin (Reply 6):
Look, Tom makes no bones about who he is and his beliefs: what you see is what you get.

Um....except the bit where he pretends to be heterosexual.
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:43 pm

Quoting GDB (Reply 3):
Divorce....as in escaping the cult?

She is fleeing the Cult.
Scientology: the Thriving Cult of Greed and Power.

Watch the video in this article to see how complete the Scientology brainwashing is:
http://www.tmz.com/2012/06/29/katie-...ientology-tom-cruise-divorce-suri/

TOM CRUISE/KATIE HOLMES DIVORCE
SCIENTOLOGY
Was Her Breaking Point
EXCLUSIVE
Katie Holmes filed for divorce primarily over Tom Cruise's fierce ties to Scientology, fearing that Tom would drag Suri deep into the church ... sources connected with the couple tell TMZ.

 

One would think she knew about all this before the marriage.

[Edited 2012-06-30 09:46:07]
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:49 pm

Wake me up when a Hollywood marriage lasts more than 6 years. Lol
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:37 pm

I honestly did not see that one coming but I sure knew that the marriage was taking a toll on her career not to mention her frumpy almost unkempt look and her physical complexion. Who knows maybe her career may take off after her divorce. The real question for Katie is, did she know what she was getting into when she was dating Tom and the intensity of his faith on Scientology?
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:06 pm

I'm not sure why you're all blaming Tom Cruise and his cult (that I despise, my point is not there). I mean, it's certainly Katie Holmes that is raising her daughter very questionably, dressing her like a doll and all.
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:11 pm

Quoting srbmod (Reply 2):
They always seemed to be a bit of an odd couple anyway (wait a minute, that describes his marriage to Nicole Kidman as well).

As well as his marriage to Mimi Rogers, (who is better looking and more mature than the following two Mrs Cruise's!) who I believe described having sex with him was like having sex with a priest or something like that. Maybe our excellent A.net researchers can attest to this one.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 10):
OMG, what a shock!

Yeah, no kiddin' Doc!!!

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 12):
Wake me up when a Hollywood marriage lasts more than 6 years. Lol

Oh Yeah! Why do they even bother with getting married anymore? Just hang out together for however long, then part company, hopefully on previously agreed terms.
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:47 pm

Quoting comorin (Reply 6):
...so did she go in with eyes wide shut?

I see what you did there.  

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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:47 pm

Quoting EA CO AS (Thread starter):
B. muddle around in a few movie or TV roles, with no real meaningful success

This.

Well, there are several things going on there.

A. Tom Cruise is most definitely gay. He should come out of the closet. Funny how John Travolta is gay as well and scientologist as well and an actor as well and not out of the closet as well. See what I did there?

B. Scientology. The place where weak people end up, trying to find answers to things which don't need answers to in the first place. It ruins people. Katie Holmes just noticed it a bit late.

C. Age. She remembered that she was a fan of Tom Cruise's when she was 10. She must have noticed that she would be changing his diapers in an age where she should be travelling and enjoying herself.
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:49 pm

Quoting EA CO AS (Thread starter):
A. fade into relative obscurity with millions of dollars

I read somewhere that since she's filing for divorce in NY she's going to get something like $3 million for each year of marriage plus child support. Since he basically made all the money in that relationship, that seems fair.

Quoting srbmod (Reply 2):
You mean like her career has been since she married Tom Cruise? She was in the last Batman movie and that's about the biggest thing she's done since she married him.

I'm embarrassed to admit I really liked her in Dawson Creek. I lived in a small rural town when that show was on and I only got 2 tv stations. So, I watched it. Her kid is what 6? That might explain why she didn't appear in more movies if her daughter is that important to her.

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 4):
I never thought this marriage would last mainly over the Scientology cult she never could accept. One story is that Holmes didn't want the child raised in Scientology, but rather in the Roman Catholic faith she believe in prior to her marriage to Cruse.

She had to know what she was getting into. Cruise hasn't exactly hid that he's a flaming scientologist. Maybe this is his chance to hook up with Travolta and they can be a happy closeted gay couple together.
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:22 pm

Of course we're all assuming the kid is biologically his in the first place......   
 
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:26 pm

I'd predict A and B. In no particular order though.

Quoting EA CO AS (Thread starter):


A. fade into relative obscurity with millions of dollars

B. muddle around in a few movie or TV roles, with no real meaningful success
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Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:07 pm

Maybe for staying in the closet his reasons are strictly monetary. He is now a A lister who gets guarantee'd money in any action adventure movie he makes as a leading man. He has in the majority of his movies played the guy who won the day that always got the girl. Now with Hollywood being Hollywood if he came out and the tabloid press being what it is what type of macho roles would he be offered. He would go from roles like Maverick to a leading lady's gay best friend in some romantic comedy. Rock Hudson was as manly as they came but did not come out until he was on his death bed from AIDS, I know we are more enlightened in this day and time but are we going to relate it to the box office.
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:58 pm

Quoting Venus6971 (Reply 21):
He would go from roles like Maverick to a leading lady's gay best friend in some romantic comedy.

Yeah, because Neil Patrick Harris and Elijah Wood play some leading lady's gay best friend....
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:00 pm

Hi!

I hope people just remember them for the movies they made and not for their personal lives. To me Tom Cruise wins. People love to hate him but he has entertained me a whole lot over the years. Top Gun, Cocktail, Jerry McGuire. Even the more recent Knight and Day was still good fun. I think Katie Holmes was known more for looking very very cute when younger. I never watched Dawson's Creek but I have seen a couple of her movies I've liked.

Millions of people do terrible things in relationships and get divorced and stuff in this World every day in all walks of life. Most people get away with it too except celebrities. I wish them both well.
 
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Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:23 pm

Quoting Venus6971 (Reply 21):
He would go from roles like Maverick to a leading lady's gay best friend in some romantic comedy.

Kelly McGillis (his counterpart in Top Gun) has already come out. It would only restore balance, really…!   

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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:28 pm

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 12):
Wake me up when a Hollywood marriage lasts more than 6 years. Lol

Jeff Bridges (Tron, The Big Lebowski, Crazy Heart) has been married to his wife since 1975 I believe.
 
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Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:09 am

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 22):

NPH plays a caricture of a shallow hetro/metrosexual in heat, Wood is a distrested dog owner and sometimes Hobit, oh he did play a demonic killer once in some graphic novel movie whose name escapes me. Don't see either being cast for a remake of a John Wayne western though Jeff Bridges was great in True Grit.
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:54 am

Quoting nwaesc (Reply 16):
I see what you did there.  

I see what you did there.  

Thank you kind sir! *raises golf club *

 
 
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:34 am

again, Tom Mopather??? that's his last name (Cruise is his middle name)
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:36 am

Quoting comorin (Reply 6):
so did she go in with eyes wide shut?

Apparently not, and now she's up the Creek without a paddle.





(I'm really, really, really, really, really sorry for that, but I couldn't resist....)
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:59 am

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 31):
I'm really, really, really, really, really sorry for that,

No you aren't.  
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:43 am

So, next question - what young up-and-coming starlet does he rent for the next few years as arm candy in another attempt at convincing everyone he's heterosexual and not batshit crazy?
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:48 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 10):
Um....except the bit where he pretends to be heterosexual.

Unless you've banged him or know someone who has how can you state this as fact? Not that it would surprise me if he was.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 24):
Kelly McGillis (his counterpart in Top Gun) has already come out. It would only restore balance, really…!

And look what happened to her career!

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 12):
Wake me up when a Hollywood marriage lasts more than 6 years. Lol

Ok better get up, Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson, married since 1988, Michael Douglas and Katherine Zeta Jones married since 2000 (although surprised this has lasted as long as it has), Ben Stiller and Christine Taylor, married since 2000, Sylvester Stallone and Jennifer Flavin married since 1997.

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 22):
Elijah Wood play some leading lady's gay best friend

Apparently Wood is gay, I've been told a guy I went to school with was Wood's sometime bed buddy when he was filming LOTR in NZ..

Someone better buy Katie one of these

 
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:22 am

Well I just went through a divorce and it's hell.



Regardless of the circumstances and how much money or fame you have.



I feel sorry for both of them.
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Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:29 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 33):
So, next question - what young up-and-coming starlet does he rent for the next few years as arm candy in another attempt at convincing everyone he's heterosexual and not batshit crazy?

Mmm, I don't know, Tom tried two Catholics, Nicole Kidman, she did not want to convert so he moved on to someone younger and more gullible, Katie Holmes, did convert, lasted 5 years. Kate Upton, I guess, she is young and a relative clean slate, she dances in her little bikini for Youtube. I also had in mind Miley Cyrus but she in engaged/married to LH, let's see how long, she too is young, hot and is not known for making wise decisions, hell make it Miley.
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Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:31 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 33):
what young up-and-coming starlet does he rent for the next few years as arm candy in another attempt at convincing everyone he's heterosexual and not batshit crazy?

This one.

 
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Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:13 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 33):
So, next question - what young up-and-coming starlet does he rent for the next few years as arm candy in another attempt at convincing everyone he's heterosexual and not batshit crazy?

One who is under 5 feet 7 inches in height?

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Spare a thought for Katie Holmes, who's sat in her lawyer's toilet trying to shit out a GPS microchip

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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:40 am

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 32):
And look what happened to her career!

Well, nothing that hadn't happened before her coming-out already. There are quite a number of out actors nowadays (mostly on TV) whose careers haven't suffered at all.
 
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Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:28 am

Quoting Klaus (Reply 37):
There are quite a number of out actors nowadays (mostly on TV) whose careers haven't suffered at all.

I guess you're thinking about Jim Parsons and Neil Patrick Harris, both were in their current roles when they came out, it will be interesting to see what happens when Big Bang Theory and How I Met Your Mother finish.
 
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Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:58 pm

Did Jim Parsons really have to come out? Wasn't it obvious?
 
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Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:42 pm

What annoys me about tiny Tom is that he is screwing up a great character in Jack Reacher, the very idea that a midget could play a 250 pound 6'5 vigilantly is daft, it must be one of the biggest miscastings I can think of.
 
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:41 pm

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 32):
Ok better get up

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Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:52 pm

Quoting fridgmus (Reply 15):
As well as his marriage to Mimi Rogers, (who is better looking and more mature than the following two Mrs Cruise's!) who I believe described having sex with him was like having sex with a priest or something like that.

I think most folks have forgotten about that one, as it was so long ago.

Ricky Gervais had a pretty funny Tweet about Tom and Katie:

http://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/219402337855340544/photo/1

This is the last time Katie & Tom were seen together...

 
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:08 pm

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 32):
Michael Douglas and Katherine Zeta Jones married since 2000 (although surprised this has lasted as long as it has

Nothing like a cancer battle to make a wife feel needed.......Florece Nightengale Syndrome?

Quoting johns624 (Reply 39):
Did Jim Parsons really have to come out? Wasn't it obvious

Yup, he did. Wasn't publicly known but apparently everybody involved in the show already knew, and didn't care....Neither do I....I was more upset when Kaley Cucco announced her engangement.

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 38):
both were in their current roles when they came out, it will be interesting to see what happens when Big Bang Theory and How I Met Your Mother finish.

This may shock people, but I don't think people really care anymore....It isn't that big of a deal. I am more offended when people feel the need to keep reminding me about it.
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Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:53 pm

Quoting L-188 (Reply 44):

This may shock people, but I don't think people really care anymore

I think they do, they shouldn't, but they do.
 
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:24 pm

Who cares if Tom Cruise is gay/bisexual. So long as not doing something illegal or unethical (like giving sex buddies first dibs for jobs on films) or is giving in to to extortion to avoid being outed, then it is none of our business. He is not a governmental employee or official like for example ex-NJ Governor McGreevy who put an apparent male sexual 'friend' of questionable qualifications in a critical state 'homeland security' state level appointed position and got forced to resign over it.
If indeed he is homosexual or bisexual, it would be much better to 'come out', as far more honorable and in the long run far better for his mental health. From what I have seen of those I know that have come out, yes, there can be some bad short term issues, but in the long run it far better that to hide it.
 
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:51 am

I'm surprised their sham of a marriage lasted this long! Tom Cruise is touched. Katie Holmes must have had a screw or two loose and the Scientology mafia basically sought her hout for Tom Cat! Not to rag on this religion but, I find them creepy and manipulating. Only a cut or two above Jim Jones and his freak show church. And, I still feel Tom Cruise is Gay. Sorry to my Gay friends on A-Net but...

Cruise totally snapped when he jumped on the Opra pompous moo cow Winfrey's gab fest. I hope, Katie, their little spoiled brat Suri and even Cruise can move on. They all three need some major league therapy and yesterday! Cruise could stalk Katie, abduct Suri and Katie could be hasseled physically and mentally abused by the thugs within this cult. I don't feel Cruise will be able to snooker any self respecting woman for wifey number 4. At best maybe he'd get a scum slut like Snookie, maybe a Britney Spears if she washes out with her man Trawick. Maybe Jessica Simpson if she gets her hot body back. (that's all the blonde bubblehead had going for her). Simpson is perfect for the claws of Scientology and a trophy wife for Cruise but, Jessica better get back into Daisy Duke shape and quick if she wants to be number 4.

Katie on the other hand will probably hook up with a hip hop artist. The anthesis of Tom Cruise. I could see Katie shacking up with a Kanye West or other of his ilk. Suri will probably have a relationship with a butch lady like Lindsey's fugly DJ squeeze.

Tom Cat may do some "Puzzle House" time in a high end celeb resort Puzzle House/Loony Bin.

Look for Suri to get a mixed bro or sis. Katie will do the thing most Hollywierd hot celebs do get knocked up and have an unmarried baby daddy and the schlock entertainment news shows will be all over it."Look at Katie Holme's baby bump as she is preggers with the love child of her and hip hop rapper (you fill in the thug no talent rap artist).
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:21 pm

Quoting fridgmus (Reply 15):
Mimi Rogers,

She's smoking hot...or was, haven't seen her in a long time. But man, she was fine.



As for the Cruise/Holmes divorce, it'll be interesting what the fallout is for the Cult of Scientology...
 
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RE: Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes Divorcing

Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:22 pm

i was reading in the paper, that the chief of the scientology cult/religion actually accompanied Tom and Katie on their honeymoon...

If that happened to me, i would going to a judge to get the whole thing annulled pronto
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